Living with Dutch Shepherds/ Belgian Malinois
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- I discuss what it's like to live with Dutch Shepherds or their counter part the Belgian Malinois. I go over some of the pros and cons of the amazing Dutch Shepherd.
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I own a 2,5 yo male. I've had GS before, same as Border Collie. There is nothing like Dutch, I would never get anything else from now on. These are velcro dogs, HIGH energy, obedient, extremely smart, eager to please. Depending on how you teach them, they could be very human friendly, or very suspicious. The biggest con is the whining, I agree 100%. If he knows we are in the car to go training, or playing, he would not stop until we get there, no matter what you say, do or yell. If the drive is one hour long.... well, you will not listen to some music in that car. Obedience training is a must; regular training, mental stimulation and serious exercise - a life necessity. This is a dog that you get knowing that you will need to spare at least 2 hours per day working with the dog. Not a dog for novice owners, not a dog that you rely as a protection dog unless you previously train the dog in that direction. By definition, these are WORKING dogs, not something that you toss in a backyard, or take for nice little walks twice a day. But it is totally worth it!
I've never trained mine to attack. And he will do it on command. Genetics usually comes into play if yours doesn't attack.
@@kole6146 Agree, they do attack without any training, as many other breeds, but for protection work the dog needs to be focused on handler and on potential attacker. Other breeds, like GS, Cane Corso, and few others are more easily focused on the handler without much training, if there is a bond there. As for DS or Malinois, they have so much going on, they are so hyperactive that, without proper training, they tend to be all over the place. With the proper training, a DS or a Malinois could surpass breeds traditionally used for protection.
@@fs4637 ya maybe because I am able to take my dog to work 7 days a week makes the difference. He's very put together in the head. He runs off leash on the ranch that I work at so since he was a baby it's just been all command oriented with him. He's had to protect me from a car jacking . Gave dude the order to get back in his truck. He didn't listen told Hank to eat. He follows my lead and temperament. If I'm good so are you. If there's beef Hanks the butcher lol. Most of these dogs will never have a off leash job so his imprinting and trust levels are different than most of his kind. I've had pits rotties and gsd and this dutchie is far superior than any others that I've owned. The bond is super strong.
Use electric collar for training. All breeds respond very fast to the vibration
My dog is basically the same when we take him to training he has been better so he doesn’t bark as much as he used to but now he takes a toy and he whines it’s a lot better than him barking because he barks really loud but he is a really good dog I deafly suggest others to get this dog breed as long as they have The time in the space for this dog it is extremely important to exercise them since they are a very energetic breed if you do not do this correctly it could cause a lot of construction and anxiety for the dog and for yourself please if you are to have this dog breed treat it right because when I first got my dog he was so skinny like you could see his rib cage it was very sad I’m glad that we got him because now he is strong and healthy his life is definitely better now
I have a female Dutch shepherd I adopted from pound five yrs ago,she is a gift from God,I LOVE HER SO MUCH,I want another right now
Watching a 65 pound dog move those tires is incredible!
I had a dutch shepherd and he lived full life of 14 years! Great dog and matched exactly of what you said about this breed! We lost him just 2 months back! We terribly miss him, because of the same qualities you mentioned. He never ever ran away from us and was super alert and protective. Great breed! Thanks for sharing your views!
Thanks for your comment!
Very sorry for your loss. I, too, lost my sweet Dutchie after 14 1/2 wonderful years with her just 3 weeks ago.
George Oberlander so sorry to hear your loss as well. Thanks for your message. 🙏
Are they still very energetic as they get older?
@@FonyTerguson713 - yes they are.
I can not beleive Cinders problem solving skills. I ‘m in awe.
You described all the same traits that I’ve experienced with my Malinois.
I bought my first Dutch Shepherd Puppy after losing my 14yr. Old. GSD Mix. My puppy Hop so, Far is easy to train and a blast at the park... his agility skills are just incredible right now, and he asks my for obediance commands on walks. He also, might enjoy scent games and activities later on but doesn't have the patience long enough to track scents right now,...which is fine, I find it boring sometimes, too, agility is so, much better...so far, he has been fun and easy to train. Hop likes to cuddle and get hugs or be picked up, he has been a pretty even keel...balanced puppy. I hope he stays that way as a teenage dog! Lol
The tires are a great idea.
Ummm not with 2 males at the same time! My boys have been in really bad fight over a tire
My wife works at home, the dog is with her 24-7. He’s 10 years old now. He’s still very athletic and requires at least a hours ball throwing and such. He rides wonderfully in a car.
He sheds nonstop. Mine doesn’t whine or destroy things in the house. He is basically chill but around at all times. He’s cool
That’s awesome!
Nice Dutchies. I like how you are incorporating the sleeve as play. Keeping it informal, not worrying about the punch or re gripping. To many “experts” warn folks to not be the sleeve yourself or the relationship will be permanently wrecked. If you are training them in formal bite work then there are merits to that but damn it Dutchies just want to bite things and letting em have a go at the sleeve and you releasing it to them is after a good tug is some real good bonding. I know to never mess with a dog that carries a tire around in his/her mouth lol.
Exactly, I may not have a PhD in bite sleeves but I’ve been playing tug of war with dogs since I was a little lol. It’s already in their DNA to latch on to stuff, no training necessary. They haven’t developed any bad habits yet, it’s just a game to them. Thanks for your comment.
Predictionpain Well I am no expert but I know a thing or two about true working breeds and the job you have done with those two fur missiles is awesome. Right on Brother. That Rocky Mountain backcountry you have there in Utah....damn I miss it. Used to drive out from CA and snowboard at The Canyons.
Recently acquired my first Dutch Shepard male (4months old) and he has been wonderful so far. I am very comfortable raising and training working line German Shepards and still have 2 of them. The Dutch Shepard is definitely different from a German Shepard and it has been interesting to see the differences and how they interact with one another. Great videos and very informative.
I adopted a D.S. as a rescue when she was 2 y.o., she recently died unexpectedly, under anesthesia during a dental cleaning. She was 5 y.o. The nearly 3 years I had with her was the best experience I have had with any of my dogs. She was very verbal, which I actually enjoyed, not an enormous amount of whining and if I told her to settle down, stopped. Also did not see her as any more active than the male Sheltie I had for 14 years or the fenale Shepherd/doberman mix I had for 13 years - that one was very high energy. My D.S. was smart, loyal, devoted, intuitive - she attended my husband's funeral with me and went around comforting everyone.
I will say she was a nag and very routine oriented. She could also be a drama queen, in a good way. She made me laugh with the joy and enthusiasm she had for...just anything. She was a counter surfer but smart enough to do it when I was out of sight. The last thing she stole from the counter was a fresh baked loaf of bread, which she got while I was out grocery shopping. I came home to nothing but crumbs. I found half the crumbling loaf in my bed, under the covers!
Oh, and she never chewed anything. I still have all her soft toys from when I first brought her home. First dog I have ever had that didn't destroy my house, my shoes, nothing. She loved car rides, hiking with me, was a great travel companion.
She made me fall in love with the breed. I am hoping to, some day, find another rescue D.S. to adopt.
I’m sorry to hear that, I appreciate your comment and hope you find another to adopt.
So sorry for your loss. Going forward, if you get another Dutch or Belgian Shepherd, be aware they require FAR less anesthesia than GSDs. Their body and bone mass are less and many vets are not aware.
Thanks for letting me know. I am in the process of adopting another female D.S from NADSR. The perfect one came along for me right after I applied and was approved by the organization.
What a great idea with tyres/ ball. I'm going to try that with my Belgian malinois..
Always a challenge to.keep them mentally stimulated all the time..
I'm adopting a 12 week old dutch Shepherd German Shepherd cross from the bad storms in TX next week. Looking forward to the adventures
What kind of chew toys do Belgian Malinois like?
Tires.
Bike tires?
No. Car tires.
*Truck tires
People, full sized cow bones, hot tub covers, any tool with a handle set down in his presence, towels, gallon milk jugs, boat anchors, etc.
Great video, great comments, many many years ago German Shepherds, Belgian Malinois and Dutch Shepherds were similar dogs. With the idea of purebreds and a closed stud book for each, they developed into breeds with unique but sometimes subtle differences. All three are great breeds, but do your research, they are all great, similar but different!
Watching your DS’s is just like watching my Samus. She’s a DS, I got her from a breeder two years ago. I got the pick of the litter but she got parvo and died. Another lady had returned Samus to the breeder and I got stuck with her but I love her more than anything now. The whining she does usually amounts to “Why are you staring at that stupid thing (laptop / computer), the suns outside, lets go run around”. She’s with me or wants to be with me everywhere we go. My ex and I have another dog and when I watch Zelda, our ds / pit mix, Samus will try to protect me from her while I’m making food. Thankfully I have a huge back yard. I take her out about 1.5 times a day to the park but without a huge yard she would destroy my life. She runs the back yard like an agility course. She’s got these paths that she runs. In the house, I have to put blankets on my couches because of the way she jumps and digs in. Every time I get up, she tries to get me to take her outside. The most annoying thing that she does is try to herd me when she wants me to do something she wants which is usually all the time to go outside. Or when we go back in, she tries to herd me to stay outside. She doesn’t bark at random things but if someone comes to the house, or walks down the ally; she’s all over that. Some guy looked over my back hard and she jumped up at him. Anyway, random thoughts about mine after watching yours. Cinder looks identical to Samus. I got her from a breeder in AZ. Good luck man, I’d love to see more videos. Maybe I’ll get some tires for her, she looks like shes having fun.
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I have a 'heinzs 57' mix breed dog. I was told shepherd mix. I've realized after researching she's without question got Dutch shepherd in her. Her energy in intense. Super smart. Destroys toys, chewed multiple gates and door frames in our house. Loved seeing the tires. Thanks for this video. Very helpful.
That is awesome!
Really nice video. Miss My old Dutch, and the work we did.... Hope all goes well for you all
the high pitch whine lmaoo mine does it always. love em. beautiful dogs. great vid
Great looking pair of dogs. I've never seen a dog learn as much by literal example as dutchies. You might try that approach. A word about the tires though. If there's any wear they do on the inner hoop, dump them or cut them out with an angle grinder or something. Years ago our dogs shreaded a tire and flat toped their k9s before I knew it. Those steel wire hoops are sharp under that rubber.
Thanks for the video.
Yeah I can totally see that happening, I will be paying close attention. Thanks for the comment!
You described them very well!
Thank you!
Your dutch'ys are great. Thanks for sharing. Good music choice.
oh gosh yes, the whining, having a working line german shepherd i can so relate, also yes to the sheddig and destroyig toys 😁😁😁
Appearance-wise our Dutch Shepherd Juno is a color-twin to your Jacks except she's female, 4yrs old and 95lbs. Kind've laid-back but loves to play with our two shepweilers Marshall and London. Enjoyed your video. Dutchies are an awesome breed.
Thanks so much for sharing this! Absolutely can relate and so appreciate this video. Oh that whining - I'm so glad that's not just my Dutchie! Definitely get the impression that he whines seemingly without even fully conscious of doing so, very unique mannerism for sure! Anyone else's dutch shepherd make a loud whine/howl when they yawn? I've never heard a dog make these sounds before and have had many!
You've got some beautiful ones overthere. Never thought or seen the tire vertical tunnel, but looks like a lot of fun for her. I will try myself! Good luck!
I loved this video so much! I have a 2 1/2 Femal Dutch Shepard and she has so many of the same mannerisms as your female. Really loved learning more about the unique breed in this video, your pups are beautiful btw !!
Thank you, yeah Cinder keeps it interesting around here.
Beautiful dogs.
Beautiful Dutchies and great video!
Spot on with the pros/cons 😅 wouldn’t change my Dutchie for any breed though, they’re amazing dogs.
Your so right I have 2 of them what a blast.
We have a dutch Shepard puppy and an American bulldog lab mix. The two get along amazingly but boy there are some big differences. We thought the bulldog mix was smart but we had another thing comin. The Dutch shepard is a problem solver/maker. She is smarter then shit and knows it lmao. The whining is a LOT tho. Thanks for the great vid!
Amazing and beautiful dogs, im jealous
Hey bro, I'm glad I stumbled on your channel. I also have two Dutch Shepherds. Bruno and Luna. Bruno is laid-back and Luna is the more hyper one. Exactly like your Dutchess. Good luck with your channel. Cheers!
That’s cool man, I appreciate it!
Beautiful Dogs
I love them I have one
Point #1 totally!!! My other dog's a husky. I got my boy Gouda concerning point #2! Point 3 is moot for me as I mentioned my husky. I have them both pull me miles everyday on a longboard sk8jouring team... basically what I mean to say is awesome video ch33rs! also, I agree and h8 the whining*
Beautiful dogs!
My Dutch is named Jax as well! 🤙🏼
Very good video and better words.
Beautiful dogs 🐕 😊
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing.
I have a dutch shepherd and i can definitely say this is true they are such a good dog breed but u have to have the necessities needed to take care of them
My Dutch shepherd is about 2yrs old and 33 lbs
love the videos. My First Bluetick here
Beautiful dogs … I know the high pitched squeak & my BM is like having another shadow. Mine sleeps in a crate but would like to wean him out. Where do your dogs sleep over night?
These dogs are extremely athletic
Awesome dogs! New subscriber as of now!!
Beautiful
Thank you
1st time seeing this breed. 75lbs really? Wow they look slim agile and very intelligent. 👌🏽✌🏽
I just adopted a 1.5 y.o Dutchie couple months ago. She’s an amazing dog. I’m having issues with the nipping.
You need better structure all of the time. Learn to play tug with your dog and make sure you control the play
Thanks great video 📹 👍 can't wait to get one 😀 👍
Where would be the best place to get a Dutch Shepherd puppy from?
I really am not sure, I checked my local classified ads for a breeder.
I'll be bringing my Malinois on a road trip to pick up my Dutch puppy tomorrow morning. We should have our own singing group by the end of the trip. I've been super excited and prepared for this ........my entire life lol. Just subscribed to the channel, keep the content coming brother!
Cool video. Love these dogs.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
I didn't before. But i do now. I take prayer seriously
Great video...thanks
Look awesome dog very intense. I had a small staffy female that was like that? Just smart n focused. Not sherperd level but similar. Thanx
It’s crazy because my female mal can only do certain activities so long before she injured herself because of how intense. Specifically her feet, she’ll start chasing the ball or running with me and the scooter but after a while I start seeing small blood spots on floor, and then I check her feet and they sometimes her lower skin is slightly split or cut or scraped . She doesn’t complain but I have to spot her activity or limit it
Awesome dogs! Would like to have the time to own one of these prettys
Loved your video. Especially the pros and cons part. We got (well at least we think we do) a black malinois. Hes SUPER DESTRUCTIVE TOO. He's LITERALLY eaten me out of house and content including the actual walls. Nightmare.
Ouch, mine have definitely gotten better over time.
Cool
Try large plastic cartons for toys. All herding dogs love to tear up the cartons because of the noise that the plastic carton makes.
Oh yes--they love plastic water bottles and all plastic bottles. FUNNY story about my Mal. Ordered some big chew bones from Chewy.com (which btw is a supreme co.) the day the shipment came I didn't go outside until the afternoon. Ziva had smelled the bones thru the box, plastic wrap on bones and bubble wrap in the box, she had the box and all other items all over the yard. Had ordered 3 as well as other items.Only 1 bone was left. She had no training in scent work but did that naturally. Sent a email to Chewy just thought they would enjoy it. They replaced the whole order and I certainly didn't expect them to do that. They always did different packaging on my orders after that. My granddaughter is a groomer and she told me they were great---She was right.
A Dutch is my next dog but the wife says I can’t get another dog until one of my pits moves on
90% of people that have Dutch Shepherds should not. 80% of people that have sleeves should not
Belgian Malinois and Dutch Shepherds
What do you mean ? Like not getting the right amount of exercise?
WORD!!. But ( being trusted to) catching a fast one on a sleeve or high in the bicep on a suit,..Priceless Rush!😎
79.4% of statistics are made up
Funny I tried that low quality sleeve on my BM & the burlap hurt the back of his mouth lips when he got hood deep bite. Need to switch to a more premium quality sleeve.
HAHA A friend of mine took my dog and their German Short Haired pointers to big bear one winter.... their 5 dogs got loose ... Penny was found sleeping on the front porch of the cabin. SMDH First and last time she and her husband watched my dog HAHAHA!
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Thanks for the video. I really like the look of your dogs and the breed as a whole. I was wondering how they get on with other pets/animals. I have a beautiful 12 month old Labrador who loves everyone and everything, so I wouldn’t want him hurt. My lab is training to be a therapy dog do you think the Dutch Shepard would be ok with kids or other people?
Cinder has a high prey drive!
I feel like our youngest lab is a dutch shepherd because she does all the things you mentioned 😃 thanks for the tired tip - I’ll put the old tires I have outside right now - really neat trick with a ball!
How did he jump so high ?
I had a malinois and a German Shepherd. Looking into another Shepherd or a DS.
I have a mix dutchie and malinois and she barks/growls anytime anyone in the household moves or comes into the room. Honestly it's quite annoying, any suggestions how to curb that or let her know that we're all family and there's no need to freak out?
That sounds like Jax whenever there is someone at the door, he gets way too worked up. I’m hoping he ages out of it, maybe yours will. Exercise can help with nerves, as well as human contact. It’s a tuff one, If you figure out something that helps let me know.
My Dutchie does that too - her backhair also raises (heckles) and she would bark until she realizes it's one of the family members. Let me know if you find a solution, i'm very interested to see if there is a remedy for it as well.
Great cons to consider. Everything is leading me to getting one so far that I've researched and how I felt around the one I did get to meet. Could you or someone else talk more about the whining situation? Also, I've read a lot about these being great search and rescue dogs and I love the fact they stick nearby. I am a trail runner, mountain biker, and back country skier. Anyone have experience with off leash trail time and how they do with approaching bikers/hikers? Getting in the way of your wheel/running into your legs as opposed to staying in front or behind? Thanks in advance! I am a 24 old renting homes, looking at adopting
Mine whine a lot and it's really annoying, But some don't, definitely not a deal breaker.
What breeder did you buy the dogs from?
I really love this breed and thinking about getting it once I'm financially a bit more stable. Only living in an apartment tho.
I work at a shelter and could bring my dog with me so he could play with the other dogs all day long tho, so I guess that makes it reasonable(?) On the few free days I would go out a lot of course.
Do you think that's very selfish of me or could it work for a dog like that?
Beautiful dogs but close to the opposite of the type of dog I admire and would want for myself.
Do they have training session everyday? And if so, do you train them separately? Super dogs btw!
Thank you! Not every day, I like separate better.
Beautiful dogs! Aaron Hernandez distracted me at the end ;( RIP
Thanks dude, yeah so sad lol
I have an 11 week old Standard Poodle Belgian Malinois mix. I got her when she was 8 weeks and I have already seen the high intelligence and somewhat aggressive destructive nature. She has improved somewhat. Did you get your dogs as puppies? How much effort did you put into training them when they were younger?
Yeah I got them as puppies, I put in some time but wish I had put more in.
Hello - do you crate the k9’s at night or when you leave your home etc.,? Thanks -
I don’t
helo good day
I have a farm about 10 acres big and planing to get a Malinois, is that OK for him to let him energy out during the days I cannot workout with him? I love the breed but what I read and watched kinda scare me little bit 😬
10 acres is hard to beat, but unless you have another dog for him to play with you well need to be out there playing/ exercising the dog. These dogs won’t be happy just sitting around.
@@predictionpain2632 probably that would be another malinois as second dog :))
We have a Dutch Shepherd that we adopted from a Rescue Center in so cal. He’s a wonderful dog. The only issue we have is he has terrible separation anxiety. He’s wrecked base boards and door moldings and he’s even chewed the bottom of wooden doors. We don’t know if the anxiety is due to a traumatic past or if it’s the nature of the breed. He’s now on anti anxiety drugs to curb the problem. Any suggestions or insight?
My female has pretty much grown out of it, I still need to make sure there are things left out that are ok for here to chew on, while I'm away.
@@predictionpain2632 you’re lucky. Mine is about 12 years old and he’ll never outgrow it. He even had a doggie companion at the house on the day he tore up the door casing and baseboards,
Interested in your inner and outer fencing. Is the inner electrified to prevent jumping the higher fence? Cheers.
just a 6 foot vinyl fence, they have never attempted to escape above or below.
How did you get cinder to work around the tires? Was it something she did naturally? Or was it something she naturally did? Curious about working that in with my two Xolo’s to get them thinking. All of those “thinking toys” you buy for dogs just don’t last for my two.
She took to it pretty naturally, I treated it like a bite sleeve to get her interested. Best dog toy I could have gotten her.
chewing on those tires is awesome. Are you looking to have any liters? Are you in USA?
Thanks, I’m not planning on it, I am in the US
@@predictionpain2632 Thank you so much for the great content!! Could I ask did you spay Cinder and if so at what age? I'll love to get a male and female just like you have but I wouldn't want to breed them. Been researching this breed for the better part of a year now.
I have three DS, all boys. They are brothers we rescued from a horrible breeder that’s should never be allowed to own an animal ever. They are a handful but I love them so much. I’m working on training and it’s going good but could use some tips on how to stop them from barking and pulling around other dogs. Sometimes their book but sometimes they loose their minds and are hard to hold back. It’s crazy because any other time they aren’t aggressive at all. Just some dogs they loose their minds over. One of the boys I can take to the dog park and he’s ok. But the other two no way... they bark and go nuts before we get the the fence. Idk what to do. Ugh
Yeah I get that, honestly I no longer do dog parks, and while on a walk I don't stop so they can make friends with other dogs, we just keep going. They just need to be friends with me and each other, that's it.
hello where did you get the couch 6:45 ?
Not sure it’s an old second hand one. Super heavy and attracts fur, not the greatest for dogs
How much exercise do Dutch Shepherds need a day?
It all depends, some need more than others. I give them at least an hour a day, but they play really hard. Mental exercise/ training is important as well.
About 26-30 hours some days, but generally 3-6 15-30 minute intervals. Mental exercises and games, like which hand is the treat in, fetching toys by name, learning gestures and sounds like tongue clicks, thigh slaps, pointing, collar beep, etc.
Dude where do you live? Looks like my dream place with mountains and hiking so close.
Utah, the whole state is beautiful, my area is more from Layton to Logan.
Predictionpain Badass man, appreciate the details. Helps me and my family hone in on where to look. Research I’ve done stated that good hiking is 5m from anywhere in SLC though? Not sure. Anyway, cool views and beautiful dogs brotha.
Nice dogs.
How did you get your Dutch shepherds?
I got mine through petco and want another one.
local classified's
@@predictionpain2632 Thank you.
What lines are they from??
Are they KNPV or FCI dogs?
They aren’t
Is jack is a Belgian malanois
3/4 dutch 1/4 mal
How much exercise do you give them a day? I’m thinking of getting one today!
it becomes want you do.. they ae the most awesome companions, yu want to spend as much time with them as they do you..
Beautiful dogs ! Are they purebred Dutch shepherd or Dutch Shepherd/ Belgian Malinois mixed?
I am asking because I just recently bought a “Dutch shepherd“ puppy but he looks more like a Belgian Malinois 😅.. I’m planning to do a DNA test to know for sure
That’s awesome, mine are 3/4 Dutch 1/4 mal, some in the litter looked completely Malinois. I’ve been told that In Europe if the pup happens to be fawn they call it a Malinois and if it’s brindle they call it a Dutch. Either way very similar breeds. A DNA test would be interesting.
Do they jump fences? Cause iv'e noticed that you have wire fences in your back yard. I really want a dutch shepherd but im worried it will jump my fence..i know they a very agile and capable of jumping..but would they do it?
My fencing is actually vinyl and they have no chance of jumping it. Some dogs can climb chain link. My dogs have zero desire to get away or leave my back yard.