Werkspoor TM 356, first run 8 november 2014
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2014
- A Werkspoor TM 356 former pump station engine, built in 1935, running for the first time after being relocated to the SHVP.
Engine data:
Make: Werkspoor
Type: TM 356
Power: 460 hp
Speed: 300 rpm
Bore: 350 mm
Stroke: 570 mm
This is a four stroke engine with six cylinders
This engine was built in 1935 by Dutch manufacturer Werkspoor in Amsterdam.
It served for nearly 80 years in pumping station ‘Boezemgemaal Gouda’ to maintain the desired water level in the Rijnlands area.
Sea also: www.rijnland.net/werk_uitvoeri...
and
www.rijnland.net/aspx/download...
More information about this and other engines can be found on the website of the SHVP: www.shvp.nl 
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It's alive! Conceived by a mechanical genius. Mr. Diesels idea changed much of the world we know.
Very nice video, the sound of this engine is the most beautiful music that can be heard.
that engine runs like a watch, amazing
Nicely filmed; thank you
What a beautiful machine. And sound!
I will describe that as music
Superb Presentation. Thank you for sharing.
Love the gauges jiggling.
Just wow, looks like it was built just yesterday
Good to see the man holding a plate to cover the air intake just incase she decides to run away, very smart I think
1st sail with WS engine...love to hear the engine momentom..takktukktaktuk....especially afer nite watch sit outside with hot coffee...
Beautiful engine!
Nice engine. Great sound
Einfach nur geil !!!
seen something like this in Alaska when I was in the Army. Used to provide energy. A friend has an old pushrod from it and that alone is about 90lbs
A marine contractor here in Toledo has this same model and cylinder engine in a Dutch Navy tug boat.
Heb ik twintigjarige mee gewerkt gemaal spaarndam grandioos
Big diesel beast... nice to see it preserved....
Man, what a great job that would be !
What a beautiful thing
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic!
fantastic..............
nice machine and finaly
O carinho e a idade dos engenheiros/ mecânicos ... Fazem com gosto. Parabéns!!!
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very nice Havi engine
Klinkt goed die diesel, ik woon in de buurt, kom eens keertje kijken bij jullie!!
Very nice video.
Una maravilla.
Prachtige moter en geluid top.
Nice video 👌
I love how instead of hearing protection these guys have hearing aids!
I wish it was possible to hear these old engines under a heavy load still.
Melanie16040 not much werkspoor diesel still working. nevertheless try searching for the tugboat Holland (callsign pesk). It runs a werkspoor and is beiing restored.
Very nice
Quality engine :-)
...why old engine designs looks so much more reliable than new stuff we see today ? It seems every single part of engine is easy to access and fix, and it looks like, overbuilt to last if i may say..just by watching this video, seems to be so obvious what each part function is, while engines today require you to have PhD from astrophysics, just to change valves or diagnose something..
Happy memory of Oranjepolder Werkpoor 1100hp, long time ago.
Woow...the big valve...
Interesting exhaust valve spring harmonics around 4:20. Can't see any others vibrating like that.
Nice engine, very well made. You better start teaching some young guys how to start this thing or there will be no one to remember how in a few years.
looks like Onderzoeker is from '67 and I see some more young faces in the video so I think we're safe for the moment ;)
It sounds like a steam engine, verry smooth! Modern engines make more noise!
Mijn vader was machinist op een schip van1939 waarin een Werkspoor 6 cilinder lag
2800 hp (12 knopen)
Is deze motor hiermee te vergelijken?
الإنسان العاقل والمفكر هو سبب الوجود والبقآء أكثر في ديمومة الحياة
Working like clockwork
Is this place hevan?
something of this size would have power a 5\6hundered ton coaster it would have had generators around it these would supply elective and pump ballast water this would also have made electric from a shaft generator they was a very reliable engine ?.
I like it I am machanic slow speed engine
Sound of firing is very lower than the clicking of valve springs😥
I assume that the third push-rod and valves are de-compressors. So then you would find it easier to turn over and fire on three pots before you release the valve and the other three come in.
NJPurling The third rocker opens the air starting valve.
Why is the valve train not lubricated? Or is it? Oil impregnated bushings? If that engine is to be used as a pump engine, is there a cover to keep dirt off the valve train?
The rockers have integral oilers; there is a pipe which delivers the oil to them. The cups on the sides of the rocker stands are for catching runoff.
Wow
Alte Mäner alte Motoren da kennen wir uns noch aus.
Very nice.
Three of the cylinders have a third valve, is that for the pneumatic start?
Thanks
That's right!
i think tow start valves is enough when engine is disengage
That caught my eye on many diesel marine engine videos. Glad to finally know the answer.
Just about to ask the same!!
Half of the cylinders have to have a compression release for startup.
ماشآء الإنسان يصنع كل شيئ وبحساب دقيق
i noticed that a few cylinders had what looks like a 3rd valve assembly and i dont know what it does. could anybody tell me what its for
Those are the starting air valves.
thank you for answering my question. i thought they were for some sort of engine braking mechanism
The Valve in the center is compression release?
Starting air valve
Quiet, love the rhythm of the valves not big HP. But the torque must be up around 3000lb/ft.
tim mayer 7946 ft.lbsf
Onderzoeker67 being a land lubber , that kind of torque is unheard of.
It shouldn't be Tim! Because this is not a marine engine, it has been used on land to drive a pump... ;-) It's a shame it seems the internet links in the description do not work properly anymore, but google for 'Boezemgemaal Gouda'.
@@Onderzoeker67
Dacht het wel.
What is he doing the first minute ? Is it a preoiling pump ?
At 0:55 the cooling water pump (front) is started, I think the pre lubrication pump (rear) was already running. At 1:00 the fuel feed pump is switched on. The cylinder lubrication device is operated at ± 1:05.
What is the third central pushrod and rocker for?
To open the starting air valves which are installed on cylinders 4, 5 and 6.
waarvoor is de 3e stoterstang tussen de in- en uit-laat klep?
Voor de bediening van de startluchtklep.
Ik vroeg me af waarom hebben cylinders een klep in het midden die niet beweegt tijdens het draaien?
+pcuser80 Dat zijn de startluchtkleppen. Aan het begin van het filmpje is te zien dat bij deze motor niet alle cilinders zo'n klep hebben, maar alleen de cilinders 4, 5 en 6. Via deze kleppen wordt startlucht toegelaten tijdens het starten.
+pcuser80 Klopt! Waarschijnlijk met voorsprong de meest gebruikte methode om een grote dieselmotor te starten. De startlucht wordt onder een druk van enkele tientallen bar (± tussen 20 en 35 bar) opgeslagen in luchtflessen. Deze worden meestal gevuld met een losse of door de motor gedreven compressor, soms ook door één cilinder van de dieselmotor. De inspuiting van die cilinder wordt dan stop gezet en met de samengeperste lucht van de compressieslag wordt de fles op druk gebracht.
+Onderzoeker67
Bedankt voor het antwoord. Weer wat wijzer.
ok push rods seem fixed to rocker arms, where is the oil coming from for valve gear, big valves too
alle 2 Stunden per Hand mit Oelkanne
What's the funtion of rocket arm center ?
The center rocker arms open the starting air valves during start-up. On this engine these valves are installed on cylinders 4, 5 and 6.
Marine engine or statuonary generator ?
ROTAXD Former pump drive engine in a pumping station near Gouda.
Very quiet
Tua2 mekaniknya
Waouh
waar is dit en is het eventueel toegankelijk voor publiek?
www.shvp.nl/content/contact
Waarom 3 cylinders met drie kleppen?
Drie cilinders beschikken over startluchtkleppen, de overige 3 niet.
The not so nice music stops at 1:43. Good! Like to hear engine on an engine video...
Crazy to think how far engines has come. A Ford durumax can be mate to have more torque and hp then a tm410
Seems it used to have mechanical injection, off cam, but no more. What sort of injection now? Electronic?
Hi Jacques, this engine has (and always had) cam shaft driven mechanical fuel injection.
@@Onderzoeker67 Interesting then, how in the vid it seems there's no visible motion at all of the third linkage/drive from the cam to the head of each cyl.
@@jacquesblaque7728 I expect you are referring to the rocker arms which control the starting air valves, only operated when starting the motor. Diesel fuel is injected by the (black) Bosch fuel pumps through the thin red pipelines.
What kind of fuel is it burning
Diesel fuel
waar is dit museum?
In Papendrecht, zie ook de omschrijving.
Waarom hebben sommige cylinders 3 kleppen en sommige maar 2?
De derde (middelste) is een startklep. Slechts op 3 van de 6 cilinders vanwege kostenbesparing. Met als nadeel dat deze motor wel op stand moet worden gezet.
@@Onderzoeker67 Duidelijk! Dank voor het antwoord :)
música para mis oídos.
Huge engine but only 460hp? probably huge torque numbers though.
10773 Nm = 7946 ft.lbf
Adam Dorris
460HP... Power = Torque x rpm this engine is low revving so despite making a LOT of torque (Nm / lb/ft) it doesnt make lot of power (kW or hp). 😉
Roger Tycholiz 360? The text says 460hp...
Car Los...When powering a slow speed device an engine doesn't need a lot of horsepower. Torque is the amount of work an engine can produce and the horsepower determines how fast this work can be done. Both are dependent on engine RPM and engine design.
Was mij maatje op de upbergen & huibergen & export.. ll
i dont think this engine was even running?? the fuel rail gauges had no pressure, it didnt have the injection running, and it wasnt noise enough despite the exhaust system. was like they were ticking it over just to diagnose something
I can assure you it was running. Ask the ± 700 visitors on our open day if it was... ;-) ruclips.net/video/GU6m3xsGQq8/видео.html
waarvoor is de 3e klep ?
Op cilinder 4, 5 en 6 zit een startklep. Deze motor moet dus nog in de juiste stand getornd worden omdat niet alle cilinders zo'n klep hebben.
Onderzoeker67 dat is niet waar, in principe zijn ze alle 120 graden verdraaid dus zal er altijd 1 van de cilinders goed staan, tydens het aanzetten nemen de kleppen elkaar over, dus je kan doorstarten.(het is een 6 cilinder) werkt het zelfde als mijn Deutz 428, de kans dat hij in een dode slag staat is nihil, het tornen voor het starten is om de oliefilm in stand te krijgen, daarna starten ze met de indicateur kranen oen, om hydrolock te voorkomen, daarna kranen dicht en starten.
MrBugsier5 Dat klopt, maar 1 van de 3 cilinders met een startklep zal in een positie net na BDP getornd moeten worden, anders komt de motor niet weg. 3 cilinders is te weinig, vanaf 5 a 6 cilinders is op stand zetten niet meer nodig.
nogmaals , dat is niet waar!, als de machine zonder compressie verlies stopt zal hij altijd op 1 cilinder voorbij bdp staan, en hoef je niet op tijd te zetten!, mijn deutz 428 heeft ook zo,n systeem, word op 3 cilinders gestart, hoef ik echt niet op tijd te zetten, als er een cilinder door het bdp staat geeft die startklep lucht, niet alleen de eerste paar graden na bdp, maar bijna de helft van de slag.
MrBugsier5
Deze 6 cilinder motor heeft de volgende verbrandingsvolgorde: 1-5-3-6-2-4.
Het is een viertakt motor, dus de arbeidsslagen vinden elke 120° omwenteling van de krukas plaats, op: 0° - 120° - 240° - 360° - 480° en 600°. Op 720° (precies 2 krukasomwentelingen verder) begint de cyclus overnieuw met cilinder 1.
Als wij de motor op stand zetten op cilinder 5 en met startlucht op gang brengen, dan komt tijdens het starten na 120° cilinder 3 langs. Maar die heeft geen startklep! Vervolgens na 240° passeert nummer 6 het BDP, deze heeft wel een startklep. Cilinder 5 is dan alweer ruim het ODP op 180° gepasseerd en onderweg naar boven.
Als je dan ook nog bedenkt dat de startluchtklep niet de volledige arbeidsslag open staat (ik vermoed zo’n 130°), dan is het niet moeilijk te begrijpen dat er dus 110° van de krukasomwenteling (240° - 130°) geen aandrijving is door de startlucht. Bij elke startpoging in dit gebied blijft de motor dus gewoon stil staan!
Is this a 2 stroke???
No, 4 stroke.
My modern motorcicle makes more noise than this wonderfull machine.
why the music
Music stops after 1:50
I see no lubrication on the rocker arms.
+Khadijah Brown If you look very carefully, you can see the rocker arm lubrication in the upper right corner at 6:38...
+Onderzoeker67 Oh, this must be very exacting then. I am used to see it flooding the rocker arms.
+Khadijah Brown I was teasing you a bit... ;-) The rocker arms of this engine are lubricated by hand; before every start and every now and then when running. At 6:38 you can see the red oilcan which is used for that purpose.
Onderzoeker67 :)
Low RPM,really this is nicely diesel engine
3:40
A real part of history. Here one more, built in 1940: ruclips.net/video/3PE-FziVULU/видео.html
quel silence pour un si gros moteur diesel !!
Hollandsche qualiteit
Less music and more real sounds please
Mate, I thought porn is banned on youtube.
enggine nigata
Weide out .cover ..(?)
Where will it end with you god damn hipsters and your huge espresso machines and micro brewerys!
I don't like engine museums. To me, there's nothing sadder than a machine that serves no purpose :( Same with car museums :(
There's nothing sadder to me than this need for "purpose". The best reason for anything is the joy of it. Purpose can be an element of that but a small element. Our "purpose driven" lives are ruining humanity and driving us collectively insane.
I get youre point, but this is the only way to let them run again! Sad but tru! Lucky we stil have this ore its done fore ever!
STORK!
my car engine has more horse power .
mind , a lot less torque i presume !
No music need for these types of videos.
Beetje te schoon 😆
Z vu
at 30:00 exhaust gas leak nois
enggine nigata