Very nice video and relaxing music! When you're done with the rooftops and want to log off/do something else, make sure to do one final lap as in the video! You're always 'one mark behind' with this method, so doing an extra lap at the end (just b2b, no need to wait out a timer) will spawn another mark. Also you can mitigate the RNG aspect by, instead of doing single laps as in the video, *starting* a second lap each time. That way you can tell if a mog was spawned. If it didn't, just ignore your last lap, complete this one (make sure to have started the timer) and resume as normal. This costs a few seconds per lap but increases the MOGs/hr by quite a bit. Shoutout to alexd for coming up with this method.
After doing some testing of this on my own, there are a few technicalities I'd like to mention. A mark of grace actually spawns at the exact moment you exit the rooftop by finishing the final obstacle. You can see this by looking at your collection log (it will increment only at the moment you jump off the final obstacle). This is the point where you should begin your 2:15 minute timer. Then, for the next 2:15 minutes (I plan on testing the exact time further) a mark of grace cannot spawn from jumping/falling off the course. By waiting for 2:15 minutes, you are actually leaving a mark of grace on the floor while the cooldown period times out. I suspect you may be able to increase the rate of marks by timing your dismount to happen right after 2:15. I will try testing this out and update here if I find anything out. Edit: From further testing, falling off the course by failing an obstacle does not provide a chance to spawn a MoG (I have checked somewhere between 50-100 occurrences so far). Additionally, if you are performing some kind of world-hopping method, it appears that the cooldown timer is paused whenever you are logged out, so the few seconds you are not logged in during the world hop will likely mess up your timing. There is still much more testing to be done, but so far the timing (starting end ending at the time you jump off the final obstacle) is approximately 2 minutes 45 seconds for Canifis, and 2 minutes 27 seconds for Seer's.
I've been testing starting the timer at the XP Drop at the end of the Ardy course and this method has been far more consistent for me. >95% of the time I get a mark every lap.
The wiki has actually been updated with more information since I last commented. Upon spawning, Marks of Grace have a 3 minute cooldown before a new one can spawn. However, it is not an exact 180 second timer; it can spawn as soon as it's within the 1 minute window of a minute according to the world's server time (for example, if you get one at 2:01 PM, then it can spawn again at 2:04 PM). So technically they can spawn anywhere between 120-180 seconds, depending on where you are syncing with server time (with some exceptions; the ardy elite diary gives a 50% chance of the cooldown being 2 minutes, so it can technically spawn in 60-120 seconds, 50% of the time). To guarantee a chance at a MoG, without having to care about server time cycles, the best way is to make sure you get your end-of-course xp drop at an absolute minimum of 180 seconds between each other.
this actually works. on seers village im getting them every 2nd - 3rd lap after the 2:15 timer which is still a lot better then going 5-10 laps witout getting any
This does not work in Seer’s Village as of 2023. The instructions must be heavily modified and apparently depend on the status of your diaries which is not mentioned in this video. Following these instructions it takes 3-4 laps after waiting to get a mark, so this actually slows everything down even more.
It doesn't slow anything at all actually. It just stops you from running laps during the cooldown time that you cannot spawn marks of grace. those 2min15 seconds, could be used doing something else. It's min maxing potential marks of grace, not agility xp.
Huge fan of your videos and i did leave tap to drop on when attempting to equip graceful and instantly tele far away when mobile first came out so my ironman isnt exactly rich in stamina... Will use this while crafting etc thanks. Oh and for the first time in my life.. FIRST
it seems as though, on seers at least, it doesnt trigger a mark for that lap. but usually spawns one on the next lap. were you able to get mark after mark after each 2;15 on seers or only on ardougne
@@brodiebrushey you should be getting one every lap after the first two. We're not sure how not having the hard dairy affects the spawn rate, but there is an element of RNG. You will have to pick up every time on the seers course. Ardy is different because the stack on the ground refreshes every time a mark spawns.
Do you need any diaries for this to work consistently? I haven't yet once gotten a mark to spawn back to back, it's always every 2nd lap. I have hard ardy done and 97 agility currently
@@chrisferens116yes elite for both, tbh I'm not entirely certain how the spawn mechanics work without the elite diary, but I'd imagine that's the case.
@@aminose15 That's a requirement. Completing the elite diary changes the timer on which marks spawn. With the elite done the timer is identical to ardy
@@SoloJawn im a zerker i cant have elite as it needs 70+def what should i do? im trying to do 2m30s instead , i get 1 once in a while just got 2 hited while doing a quest.. lost pouch, full grace n cash after i just came abck to osrs..
@@leroiheenok2629 I don't know. I only researched the best method, but if you're not an ironman then it doesn't really matter. Just do agility as normal.
You cannot force them to spawn by doing nothing and setting a timer. For seers and most other courses, they have a chance to spawn every time you complete a lap as long as at least 3 minutes have gone by since the last spawn. By waiting you are just cheating yourself of agility xp. Sorry folks, but this doesn't work and you will not gain extra MOG per hour just by "timing" your runs.
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Very nice video and relaxing music! When you're done with the rooftops and want to log off/do something else, make sure to do one final lap as in the video! You're always 'one mark behind' with this method, so doing an extra lap at the end (just b2b, no need to wait out a timer) will spawn another mark.
Also you can mitigate the RNG aspect by, instead of doing single laps as in the video, *starting* a second lap each time. That way you can tell if a mog was spawned. If it didn't, just ignore your last lap, complete this one (make sure to have started the timer) and resume as normal. This costs a few seconds per lap but increases the MOGs/hr by quite a bit. Shoutout to alexd for coming up with this method.
Restart the timer when you start your second lap?
After doing some testing of this on my own, there are a few technicalities I'd like to mention. A mark of grace actually spawns at the exact moment you exit the rooftop by finishing the final obstacle. You can see this by looking at your collection log (it will increment only at the moment you jump off the final obstacle). This is the point where you should begin your 2:15 minute timer.
Then, for the next 2:15 minutes (I plan on testing the exact time further) a mark of grace cannot spawn from jumping/falling off the course. By waiting for 2:15 minutes, you are actually leaving a mark of grace on the floor while the cooldown period times out. I suspect you may be able to increase the rate of marks by timing your dismount to happen right after 2:15. I will try testing this out and update here if I find anything out.
Edit: From further testing, falling off the course by failing an obstacle does not provide a chance to spawn a MoG (I have checked somewhere between 50-100 occurrences so far). Additionally, if you are performing some kind of world-hopping method, it appears that the cooldown timer is paused whenever you are logged out, so the few seconds you are not logged in during the world hop will likely mess up your timing. There is still much more testing to be done, but so far the timing (starting end ending at the time you jump off the final obstacle) is approximately 2 minutes 45 seconds for Canifis, and 2 minutes 27 seconds for Seer's.
I've been testing starting the timer at the XP Drop at the end of the Ardy course and this method has been far more consistent for me. >95% of the time I get a mark every lap.
Does this require the elite diary?
The wiki has actually been updated with more information since I last commented. Upon spawning, Marks of Grace have a 3 minute cooldown before a new one can spawn. However, it is not an exact 180 second timer; it can spawn as soon as it's within the 1 minute window of a minute according to the world's server time (for example, if you get one at 2:01 PM, then it can spawn again at 2:04 PM). So technically they can spawn anywhere between 120-180 seconds, depending on where you are syncing with server time (with some exceptions; the ardy elite diary gives a 50% chance of the cooldown being 2 minutes, so it can technically spawn in 60-120 seconds, 50% of the time). To guarantee a chance at a MoG, without having to care about server time cycles, the best way is to make sure you get your end-of-course xp drop at an absolute minimum of 180 seconds between each other.
@@Ryan_Richter Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate that and I understand better now too. Your last sentenence sums it up.
this actually works. on seers village im getting them every 2nd - 3rd lap after the 2:15 timer which is still a lot better then going 5-10 laps witout getting any
This does not work in Seer’s Village as of 2023. The instructions must be heavily modified and apparently depend on the status of your diaries which is not mentioned in this video. Following these instructions it takes 3-4 laps after waiting to get a mark, so this actually slows everything down even more.
It doesn't slow anything at all actually. It just stops you from running laps during the cooldown time that you cannot spawn marks of grace. those 2min15 seconds, could be used doing something else. It's min maxing potential marks of grace, not agility xp.
Does not work for Relleka rooftops.
Huge fan of your videos and i did leave tap to drop on when attempting to equip graceful and instantly tele far away when mobile first came out so my ironman isnt exactly rich in stamina... Will use this while crafting etc thanks.
Oh and for the first time in my life.. FIRST
This does not work at Seers Village. The respawn timer starts upon completion of the course.
You need the hard diary
it's actually 3 minutes from when the mark spawns
Hello. maybe a little late, but how do you color the obstacles in Runelite? Ty :)
Object marker
I randomly found this out yesterday and had to see if others knew.
it seems as though, on seers at least, it doesnt trigger a mark for that lap. but usually spawns one on the next lap.
were you able to get mark after mark after each 2;15 on seers or only on ardougne
Yes exactly what I figured out before watching this video, must be different
does this work in rellekka or prif?
See the wiki for details on the rellekka timer, they've added them for every course since I put this video up.
Prif wouldn't work
when doing seers do you leave the mark of grace until you start your second lap when the cooldown timer has been?
Music name please?
woohoo new jawn video
For the Seers course, i feel like im getting a mark every other lap. is that right?
After I force spawn the first one, do i insta pick them up. or do i keep leaving them behind for 1 lap?
@@brodiebrushey you should be getting one every lap after the first two. We're not sure how not having the hard dairy affects the spawn rate, but there is an element of RNG.
You will have to pick up every time on the seers course. Ardy is different because the stack on the ground refreshes every time a mark spawns.
@brodie brushey did you figure it out?
Does this work at seers if u are 80+ agility?
would this work on canafis course aswell
Presumably yes, but I wasn't able to figure out the timing for the canifis course
do you restart the timer when you fall off?
Do you need any diaries for this to work consistently? I haven't yet once gotten a mark to spawn back to back, it's always every 2nd lap. I have hard ardy done and 97 agility currently
Yes, Kandarin and Ardounge elite
@@SoloJawn ah yea I don’t got those done. Elite for both? I imagine that’s prob why I’m only getting one about every 2nd lap?
@@chrisferens116yes elite for both, tbh I'm not entirely certain how the spawn mechanics work without the elite diary, but I'd imagine that's the case.
Do i have to tele out of area each time to this work?
No, just start the next lap at the right time
2022 jul dose not work in seers village
Do you have the elite diary done?
@@SoloJawn no
@@aminose15 That's a requirement. Completing the elite diary changes the timer on which marks spawn. With the elite done the timer is identical to ardy
@@SoloJawn im a zerker i cant have elite as it needs 70+def
what should i do? im trying to do 2m30s instead , i get 1 once in a while
just got 2 hited while doing a quest.. lost pouch, full grace n cash after i just came abck to osrs..
@@leroiheenok2629 I don't know. I only researched the best method, but if you're not an ironman then it doesn't really matter. Just do agility as normal.
19 lap dry
You cannot force them to spawn by doing nothing and setting a timer. For seers and most other courses, they have a chance to spawn every time you complete a lap as long as at least 3 minutes have gone by since the last spawn. By waiting you are just cheating yourself of agility xp. Sorry folks, but this doesn't work and you will not gain extra MOG per hour just by "timing" your runs.
This music reminds me of getting a massage from an Asian
happy ending ctfu
Could of speeded up the example
Watch at 2x
It's really just there to demonstrate that it works