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The first lift called itself an elevator. How dare it do that.
It's pretty standardized at this point, "lift" is used for platform/small lifts that go a small distance and are a proper elevator.
Elevator is used for proper elevators that go any distance, has a counterweight etc and uses regular parts.
We can thank Schindler/Kone for this.
@@professionalineverything
No thanks
@@JP_TaVeryMuch ahahaha, i see the comedic effect kicking in.
nty
@@Mr_ButterKatze if you don't like it try asking the elevator companies.
These new buildings are very nice. I can’t believe a nice apartment building would take 6 months to fix their lifts, I really wonder what is happening with that. Also any plans to visit the US?
you see this everywhere with existing Equipment being pushed further and further. especially in cars. for example renault uses the same engine today as they did 20 or so years ago, only they have pushed it from originally 60hp to 75 at first, and now that same engine block makes 103hp. if that has an impact on the life of that is yet to be seen, but i assume so.
I think engines becoming more efficient is very different to motors being run at faster speeds.
hey austin this is guys
How weird the sound of the bulding qt the end it seems to be a issuie with new bulding
14:11 Oh how scary
Just looking at it from above makes me dizzy 😨😨
Beno, the factoid about 35 floors being a popular height because of the max for MRL lifts is crazy to me as a lay person. The construction costs are tens of millions; more floors add millions in future revenue over the building's lifetime. How can it makes sense to compromise over a lift machine room??
As well as MRL lifts, there are other things about the quality and size of the concrete structure. 130 meters is the height where the building design changes to a high rise design. Buildings 130 meters or less have a very standard design concrete frame.
Also, within the last 10 years, it seems less common that residential buildings are built between 140 and 170 meters, as it seems that if a building is going to exceed 130 meters (not including a spire and roof decorations) then they might as well build it to at least 170 meters or more (if they can get it past planning).
@@benolifts thanks
that lift is 6m per second
Beno, ,what camera do you use???
Hanging from the top 😮 nah fam 😳😱
In your opinion, what is the maximum of floors for a MRL traction lift ?
Considering I am a lift enthusiast, I like to see over engineered lifts. I would prefer heavily used buildings, even very low rise ones, to have a motor room. If I was in government I would limit MRLs to 50 meters, which is very different to the current 130 meter limit.
This correspond To approx 18 levels am I right or am I wrong ?
@@JulesMauuary-Maetz Thats what I would limit them to. I have seen MRL lifts with 43 floors. Such as the sideman tower in Stratford.
@@benolifts I am also a lift enthusiast too. Over engineered lifts are Nice To see indeed but maybe very heavy duty Kone Monogoods or 5500s or Eurolift would be suitable for heavy duty if not medium duty application (e.g shopping center) but I am not sure 🤔. But MRLs are not as solid as MR lifts indeed.
But to me even basic lifts can do the job because I very rarely film lifts...
But Ive been in a couple of very crap lifts such as a GMV HomeLifty that goes 0.15 m/s at St Denis de La Réunion Rolland Garros Airport and 2 IMEM 0.15 m/s lifts at London Science Myseum. The closests lifts To where I live are 3 MX06 2nd gen EcoDiscs at a fairly small scale train station but they have a proper chassis (And are much better than TS Stannah's) ! There is also a rather cheap Sprinte Electra Vitoria hydraulic lift with DMG B5 inox buttons but the inside buttons got replaced (slap on bodge mod) with ugly and plasticky Sodimas buttons located in a theater...And Guess what ? The staff left all the secret floors unlocked and I went down To the spooky bassement ! This lift was quite wobbly and charged the hydraulic quite quick IMO (I think thats because its got a solid state starter instead of a star delta and it took about 1-2 seconds To charge the hydraulic). This lift is an addition from the late 90s or early 2000s. The worst things about it is the fact that it can only take 1 call at 1 time, it has very irritating door timer delays and the Selcom door operators made horrid sounds last time I was here. This lift has 2 doors on 90° (but no diagonal chassis as its a roped hydraulic side chassis lift ☹), it was quite Noisy and made some rubbing sounds but still a rather healthy lift (Well at least it looks) and Im not sure but it seems to have some sort of slight pre doors. This is also a 7 landing hydro and there is no voice and it was inspected just 1 day before I used it. So I have mixed opinions on this cheap and very strange lift.
What do you think about my reply ?
@@benolifts and I remember the 36 floors Otis Gen2 (aka Craptis GenPoo in this case as ElevatorsInRussia would say)
I looked at an apartment in the Landmark Pinnacle, not very nice.
It had that one room design, finish was quite good from what I remember.
In estate agent speak, a studio apartment. In plain English, a bedsit, albeit a posh one.
The luxury apartment I slept in was quite weird. Even though it was made to look ultra luxury and had loads of tech and modern features, the room layout was weird. It was a 1 bedroom apartment which had 2 bathrooms. The main combined living and dining room was large, there was a good sized bouncy (which most people don't end up using), and the bedroom was tiny. I just can't see how anyone would want their space used like this. Why 2 bathrooms.
@@benolifts
You don't want your guests using your ensuite bog. They might find things in your medecine cabinet.
Are you doing any more tunnel episodes? Found the old mail tunnels under London very interesting
Can't do them as they are actively used as a tourist attraction
Ibigay mo na ang detalye para sa ating 15th anniversary ng RUclips Channel Beno!
BRO HE IS ENGLISH
ALL these buildings are so uninspiring.
Architecture by the lowest price they can get away with. And from what you're saying, squeezing every penny out the lifts too.
Best bit of design is whats on yer feet.
Good vid.
Ibigay mo na!!!
@@dobolgreensadobolb
K?
To my knowledge, the way Kone is achieving higher power with their upgraded old motors is that the cooling and windings are made beefier, and the inverters that power the motors are better with fewer losses.
Beno, do you plan visiting JR hospital, they have lot of expresses.
I went there. The best lifts had been replaced by the time I got there. I tried for an hour to surf an express but there was constantly too many people about. I gave up in the end.
Nice
kone+otis kotis
I highly think that generic engineers maintain them nowadays, otherwise they will have kept the 6m/s at the landmark pinnacle.
Update: I only just realised they are maintained by KONE, i immediately thought "thats not good, even though they maintain it they are still "unreliable""
Then i immediately realised that they are using 3rd party VFDs, ABB to be specific, could it be that the VFDs keep tripping on overcurrent as they cannot meet the demand. If so KONE should fit their own VFDs to see if the reliability improves.
Yeah I agree with this one. I refuse to believe that the motor is the bottleneck.
@@jakewynn KONE motors ain't Chinese, just pair them up with a suitable KONE VFD for the application for 0 over current errors, the only way to know if the motor is being pushed too hard is the windings blow up.
@@professionalineverything yeah or if the windings start to fuse together which can impact the performance of the motor
@@jakewynnonce the coating is eroded it will be a direct short. So it's either 100% or fault.
I agree about your opinon on the quality of these buildings, modern standards are shoddy and tacky even on the luxury budget. Mainstream architecture doesnt hold a flourescent tube to the ones of the 80s and 90s. Also I am not a fan of the design, which id mostly a mash of 80, 90 and early 2K with a lesser grade rehash of those eras. Older is better and I totally believe you on the Otis lifts.
Ducky bali