Dual Boot Windows and Linux With rEFInd
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It's important that you disable any other drives with OSes or install Windows first. Windows loves to install its bootloader in all drives or install it in a drive which is different than the one where Windows is on.
Also windows from time to time like to override your boot manager if everything is on same drive.
@@SenkusJuliusI think if you disable win updates it doesn't tho
I have two drive, one has windows 11 on it how can I install linux on the 2nd drive?? Do I need to reformat it to other than NTFS?
Good video, spread the message👍👏 I use this since 5 years, have it on any machine, also intel mac. The flexibility, adoptibility and the option to goto bios or boot from usb is the great great advantage over any other bootmanager. What this also offers is to boot kernels from the root fs directly, great if you lose your efi partition or restore linux root fs on another machine. Just adopt fstab. I install linux on one machine, set it up to my needs, and then transfer the root partition with gnome disks to all my machines and boot with refind.
been looking for a graphical interface for grub for years. awesome man!
Grub is graphical though
@@Rayyan-hi2ge its not
On mine.. I just skipped all this and I would simply push the boot option button right as I fire up the PC..
and I could select from there. No need to beautify it
Just for information; in my case I had to disable Secure Boot
Can you do this on the steamdeck? Currently I use Clover (someone modified the Mac on for the steamdeck)
Win Boot will kill off the linux partition after a few updates.
It never fails... to always fail.
Put your Linux Part in a disk format that Windows cannot use. Win then will stop messing up linux. It will still trash the EFI partition whenever it feels like it. rEFInd calls that a boot coup and gives counter measures and repair commands.
an automatic windows update literally removed the grub bootloader today i had to reinstall grub lmao
How did Windows updates do? As probably known... With Windows updates the update completes after a reboot... How well does this do with this multiboot solution ?
No problem at all. Update will complete without any issues if you choose Windows. Bigger problem is sometimes win updates mess with efi settings and could erase refind (or any other boot manager). I'm using Windows Insiders and quite often had to reinstall systemd-boot :)
If u are unfamiliar with diskpart or advanced Linux disk partition management then do not use refined.. they're are no clear guides to remove it and your boot manager will forever be the refined.
idk how you* find those thing, but thx
i think i can use my minipc for something useful like kodi/batocera, i have only w11 for the moment and i dont use it at all
I dual booted windows 10 and manjaro had to use timeshift to restore my manjaro. Looks like it messed up the windows 10 boot. The files are still there just not bootable. I made sure I only used timeshift on my ssd with manjaro. Any ideas why it messed with the dual boot?
Didn't work. I don't have the same options in my BIOS, i cant choose what to boot besides the boot order
What's wrong with systemd bootloader
Hey guys. Long time Linux and grub user. I've also dual booted many times over the years for various reasons. Can someone explain why I'd want to use this over grub? Grub and osprober have always seemed to be completely sufficient for me and I don't see much advantage to this other than it having a GUI.
It's faster to reinstall rEFInd than grub. Which makes it more convenient when Win or macOS inevitably borks the boot order.
Installing/reinstalling grub can also be destructive if done incorrectly, so not ideal for casual/new linux users.
@@davidg5898and what you just explained is plenty enough reason why no one should ever dual boot Windows and Linux from the same physical storage Drive. It just creates way too many problems to possibly deal with
Is refind based on Grub?
I thought it had its origin in the Mac world. It's quite old.
Does this work with full disk encryption?
@@ZiggleFingers I didn't think so.
Does the Ventoy USB thumbdrive contain the ISOs of all the OSes on its option list?
Can I use rEFInd to dual boot Windows 11 with ChromeFlex? If so, how do I put the ChromeFlex ISO onto the Ventoy flash drive? When ChromeOS Flex was CloudReady from Neverware, making a dual boot computer with Windows was very easy. No need for any commandline. Now you have to do all sorts with GRUB to get it to work. Apparently, Google who bought Neverware, doesn't want people to dual boot ChromeFlex with Windows.
The coincidence of this video's release in unbelievable. Just finished setting up Arch and Win 11 install and currently watching this to have rEFInd installed haha
Ha! I did that last night... 😄 and in my case I just went with systemd-boot... 🤔 now after seeing this video, I started doubting... I might try it...
Hah I literally just did the same. If only I had waited a day and watched the video 😂
I just finished a dist-upgrade 3 days ago, and Windows didn’t make it 😂 I put its disk space to better use.
THATS WHY U DO RESEARCH FIRST 😂
How did you get refind to find your windows OS?
In the end, I decided that the complication of trying to get this to work with Secure Boot enabled was just too much so I gave up. Grub may not look pretty but it does at least work. Of course I could disable Secure Boot, which seems to be heavily controlled by Microsoft. I'd be interested to know what others think about that.
You could also install grub themes and i think they are much lightweight and look more prettier than this. I would personally recommend the Tela theme
Very happy to learn about this. I still have a dual-boot setup although Linux is pretty much my daily driver for everything. Still find occasional things to do in Windows world though. This looks like it'll make the system a bit more user-friendly.
.... but it turns out to be rather more complicated than indicated in the video due to the complications of working with Secure Boot.
The EFI System Partition (ESP) should have already been mounted at /boot/efi in Ubuntu 22.04.
I used rEFInd years ago when I managed/supported a lab of iMacs at a college where they wanted them to dual boot MacOS and Windows so the lab could be used by multiple departments more easily. Handy tool for the use case.
How did Windows updates do? As probably known... With Windows updates the update completes after a reboot... How well does this do with this multiboot solution ?
@@solidwire I dunno what ur talking about
@@solidwiredon't think it should impact anything regardless of bootloader, just be at the pc and reboot to windows when the update is complete
You find some really cool tools. Good job on showing it and using it. Just installed it, (along with multiple OS install :) ) And it's great. Good job, keep it up.
Been using rEFInd for over a decade to triple-boot my intel MacBook Pro (macOS, Linux, Win). It's been better for the job than any other boot manager I've tried. Every now and then an OS update breaks it but all you have to do on the MBP is restore boot (command+r during boot), go to the terminal, and run the rEFInd install command and it's back to working perfectly again.
Yupp same here. I have refind iso on a ventoy usb and when it gets lost or broken, you can reinstall very ez. I have it on any machine, also a Macbook Air.
wait, you can install windows on a macbook? I thought that the most you could do was run asahi linux?
@@that_guy1211 on x64 based macbooks, you can do anything. On arm64 based (Apple Silicon SoCs), only asahi for now
@@that_guy1211 Windows works just fine on any intel Mac. You're thinking of the Apple silicon Macs.
Refind is the best dual boot I've ever used. Grub keeps getting cancelled by Microsoft Windows
Give it a couple of major updates, and Microsoft will lock you out and because, (and you can hear the excuses now) refind was considered a security threat by UEFI.
Hi there,
As you Demonstrated the rEFInd for dual boot(multiple os in single drive),
Q: Is there similar kind of solution for boot option/drive manager?
(what I mean is my PC going to have multiple drive, each drive will have only one os. so one drive for windows, one for linux desktop and one more for gaming distro.)
Pretty cool. I've heard the best way is to not mix bootloaders because it can all go wrong and leave you in a pickle, so best to install on different drives and use boot select menu to jump into a Linux install, leaving Windows bootloader as the default. Have you ever had a Win/Linux dual boot go bad and leave you up the creek without a paddle?
with uefi boot it don't mix. all boot programs live in separate folders on boot partition. refind is just convinient grapgical way to chose between installed operating systems
Windows is a dirty player, it feels need from time to time to disable refind and set win bootmgr as first entry. Not a problem, but i avoid it by having a separate and bigger Linux EFI partition at the end of the disk. So yes, no harm to have a separate efi partition.
@@sheldonkupa9120well windows updates like to replace bootable efi files for the time of the update and then it also rebuild boot order to be first,that was the problem for me too, so i have refind and linux on bootable ssd and windows on non bootable ssd where only refind can boot it
windows can't modyfi the other drive and is unaware computer even bounce boot off of it although if linux refind drive ever fail i have no way to boot to windows either because computer is dumb hp
@@kokodin5895 thats a clever solution! I will try that also👏👍I have a non efi partition of 100 mb at disk start which i make bootable with bcdboot (i clone/backup only win c partition with gnome disks) and a linux efi at disk end, and for some reasons this works on all my machines but one asus board. Pop OS needs a large efi partition as it saves kernels on it.
@@kokodin5895 you can make windows make boot again with bcdboot started from windows installer usb disk. With gparted make a small fat32 partition. Then bcdboot applied to it. Then back to gparted you can apply efi system to that small partition. Windows is happy with the new efi
I prefer dualbooting Linux and Linux.
All is not well in the land of Microsoft. I have been seriously contemplating trying my hand at Linux (I'm currently looking at Debian 12 and Fedora 40). Like a lot of windows folk, I have a few core apps that don't run on linux and there are no linux alternatives. This rEFInd allow me to run windows when I need to without to much difficulty. I'm going to swap the 256 gig M.2 drive in my laptop for a 2 TB one and down the road I go.
Is it work with Pop!OS? Because Pop!OS uses the systemd-boot bootloader?
Dual booting Windows 11 and Linux doesn't require and software. Just install UEFI Linux on a drive separate from the Windows drive. Tell the install to use the Windows bootloader to start. The motherboard now handles the selection. With Windows 10, on startup, the first screen would be a selection screen.
Will this work with windows 10 ? Then Linux distro?
Should work
Hyee, your video is very helpful. But how do i know where is my efi and to mount it?
refind is much more fun than you showed in this video
i am using it primarly to dual boot hp laptop from nvme drives that are not bootable from normal bios\uefi because uefi is missing nvme drivers to see nvme drives as anything it can recognize
fun thing is i installed it manually by copying files to boot partition including nvme driver but i never set up secure boot credentials for it so currently secure boot is disabled
i initially used it just to boot my non bootable drives using sd card or flash drive but since it can live on internal ssd it made life much easier
there is one more feature of refind i would like to mention, it loads drivers trough uefi shell so if you use fallback boot mannager and don't reboot your computer it will drop you to boot menu of your uefi/bios only with drivers loaded but you could technically load uefi shell extensions other than drivers trough it or go directly to uefi shell. making it convinient way to load bugs to your computer so making your boot secure might be a good idea while using refind, so secure but certification for refind should be a next video. kind of a nesesery evil at this point.
This is to complicated for New Linux user stick to default bootloader
bro, how did you do autocorrect at "atp" to apt at 7:58?
🤔
Don has it setup as an alias in bash rc. Catch up 😉
@@yorkshireplumbing 😑
Probably you don't need to mount efi part... it should be mounted already at /boot/efi ... anyway, great boot manager.
Isn't that being precautious about any sys breaks during the change. /mnt is for temporarily mounted systems. .... Any thoughts?
SystemD is *not* a boot manager like GRUB or reFind. It is an init system for Linux.
systemd-boot is
Cory you never heard of systems-boot?😂😂😂😂
@@bahmak2003system and systemd boot are different things
how to use refind boot manager for a dual booting of 2 linux distros in an old bios legacy pc?
I wonder if mom hackers approve of this?) 😇❤
Very nice!
Thanks for the video.
this is awesome! can you make a video on how to dual boot into an android OS?
Used refit a long time ago on a macbook white 2010. Windows 10 and 11 however, keeps on installing the 320M nvdia graphics driver causing my system to boot loop. Finally used Opencore with Big Sur. Everything worked after it automatically patched the drivers. Breathed new life to my macbook.
How to hidden starting load legacy boot ? I dont like this
rEFInd is a good boot manager. not sure why ubuntu is using older version in it's repo.
Linux Mint used to have version 0.14.02 and it even went back to the old version 0.13.2. the older version works just fine. The Arch Linux AUR has the latest verson of rEFInd.
I've got the latest version of Mint 21.3 and Ubuntu 24.04 development both use old versions of rEFInd in their repos. also MX-23, Debian 12.5 use old version of rEFInd. Arch Linux has the latest version of rEFInd in it's AUR. the repos for Debian and Ubuntu reverted back to old version of rEFInd.
@@ZiggleFingers refind is a very old project though, first version droped with wiki page in 2012 and it is by itself a fork of refit project from 2010
The Debian repos updated now to version 0.14.1 and Arch Linux has AUR versions of rEFInd that support btrfs c3/c4
My man has like infinite iso files in ventoy at the start 😂
why do you have such a old version of windows 11!? lol
Does this method work, if I have dual boot from two disks (1 disk has windows, 1 disk has linux) ?
yes
People new to Linux be like :🥴😵🤯🙉🙉🤨
Great video, I have used this in the past and I really like it.
I installed Linux and my system will not dual boot. I have the rEFInd selected as the first option but it does not boot and it goes strait into windows. I flashed rEFInd to a bootable thumb drive and everything works perfectly. I need to figure out how to get refined to load onto disk. One strange thing I noticed as well is my UEFI partition is on my 2nd NVME drive which is my storage drive not my windows drive. I have no idea how that happened.
Will this work with Intel 2017 iMac! Can you game with this? Also Will This work with HP chromebook
I don't like GRUB because it's ugly and I don't know why they did not update the look of it. maybe because it just "works".
thanks for your help. now I can make my Laptop boot menu look better.
holy crap this solve my dual boot problem. had to manually enter boot via F key. install rEFInd on linux and bamm! Boot like a charm!
already dual boot win 11 and ubuntu, soo i should be able just install refind right? Guess I'll just YOLO it...
WSL: 🗿🗿🗿🗿👍👍
But is not the the EFI with its subdirectory refind already mounted at /boot/efi ? So do you really need to mount again ?
Could you please do a demo of rEFInd with LUKS2 and Dual-boot with Windows?
You have a FileCR entry in your Ventoy disk. I know what you did there! 😂
I did this on an old MacBook I had and managed to get a triple boot: MACOS, Win11, and Mint! Cool video.
Do you have a tutorial to do this with ChromeOS Flex and Windows 11?
How does this handles Windows recovery and major updates?
I used clover on steamdeck. Same thing by the looks of it.
This reminds me that I have to update Clover which is a similar boot manager.
Windows Boot Manager can also boot linux at least in legacy bios mode
Nice video, found this very informative and easy to follow!
can i configure rEFInd to boot to a particular OS after a countdown?
This is a very concise and quick tutorial. 10/10
This was unexpectedly surprisingly good Thanks. didnt think I'd enjoy this
I've been using dual boot (Windows/Ubuntu) from the grub boot manager. What I would really like to do is be able to choose the OS remotely (i.e. reboot remotely and choose theh OS to boot from). I frequently need to stage my woodshop computer remotely with 3D plans, sometimes using Windows and other times Ubuntu, before venturing out there to get to work.
Any way I can access a boot manager remotely? Maybe text files that have different boot scenarios scripted that I can change prior to rebooting? I've thought about IP KVM, but more hardware isn't a preferred choice. I'd rather just stage the boot either in real time or by prepping a boot script.
in Linux you can have a bash script to restart your computer and select Windows automatically, im not sure but in Windows there should be similiar approach with powershell script. im telling you the starting point. Dyor
Excellent tool which I never heard of, thanks a lot for the walkthrough !
Easy to follow tutorial!!!! thanks
Would you dp same thing if u want to install Linux on a different drive than windows drive.
I have 2 SSD drives each SSD has it's on system EFI partition. 1 SSD has Windows 11 with EFI and 2nd SSD has 3 linux os's, EFI partition with rEFIND on it. the second SSD can boot both SSD's. the Second SSD has Linux Mint, MX23.2 and Arch Linux. the Windows EFI is about 100mb and the Linux EFI is about 1GB. rEFInd is on 2nd SSD and will boot Windows and all the Linux OS's.
Top - tnx for the vid
Thanks 👍
Thanks Don.
work on legacy bios?
no refind doesnt support legacy bios only uefi
Someone tell me it doesn't break or fail to boot an OS after an update 🥹
Will this work on legacy bios? My motherboard doesn't have UEFI.
Windows Boot Manager supports multi booting, the person in this video has no idea what they are talking about
@@administrator4728 yes he does know what hes talking about, windows boot manager can only boot into windows
It's not Ooh bun too, it's Ooh boon to (Ubuntu). It's really a very simple South African word, please get the pronunciation right.
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