Knife grip and stance feat. former Israeli Special Forces
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For anyone wanting to know (and this is to my knowledge) having the knife out front is mainly for defensive fighting because the blade is right there and ready to stop an attsck. In the military however, the reason they hold it in their back hand is to get the element of surprise and more aimed towards killing and offensive fighting. In a war zone kill or be killed type situation, the military arents just trying to hold a blade out and slash whatever they can, they are taught to hide that knife a little farther back, and then strike to penetrate and kill
Grandfather was a career Marine. Deployed to Vietnam 4 times. Had to use a knife a few times. He started me out training as a boxer before I learned any of the MCMAP or knife work. All because of what you've said essentially. In a knife fight, you have to start by accepting you're gonna get cut. You keep your elbows in and turn slightly more than a boxer would to defend the vitals down the midline, and you use your off-hand, fist balled, knuckles up, so an incoming strike will glance off bone instead of dig in. And you lead with the left jab much of the time, as it's a faster strike, as well as unexpected since your opponent will be watching your knife hand more. And, just like with throwing that hard right, you start the attack from the feet. You move forward onto your right, lock your hips in, and either drive with the tip, hook from the outside for a kidney, make a narrow slash, or chop wide like throwing a haymaker. They'll all have far more power than if your started in a Southpaw stance, and if you succeed you can either get back into guard and bleed your opponent, or if he's been struck badly you.can capitulate by bodily turning him and step to his side. With his ribs exposed, pretend that you're a sewing machine and start punching holes as fast as possible. Gotta remember to turn the blade horizontally and angle each stab upward to avoid binding up in a bone or catching between ribs. The Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife was made with that grip in mind, guided by the index finger, which sits atop the flat of the blade beyond the crossguard.
That said, that's all knife fighting. Grandad said never to get into a knife fight. It's not a knife fight if your opponent doesn't realize you're armed, or even there. It's just putting someone down. So, small weapons intended for concealment, some sleight of hand practice, and the other guy only knowing you're armed (ideally only knowing you're there) after your drive the blade in for the first time are what one should be going for. That's why I always carry a HAK in addition to a more obvious belt knife (and a pocket folder, for defense and odd jobs). The Hide Away Knife is easily concealed, your hands are still fully functional when wearing it (I can type with mine still on), and your enemy can't take it away to use against you (the final rule I was taught about fighting with any weapon).
@@johnalbers6422 what you said about stance makes more sense to me than the video's tip. yes you would have more range with a "southpaw" stance but it's also that much easier for your opponent to isolate/control your knife arm. my understanding is like you said, the left arm is for shielding, jabbing or binding while the right arm with the knife is free to attack. many of these self-defense videos try to suggest that if someone is attacking you with a knife or a tire iron etc., that you are going to deftly slash their tendon and disarm them like some kind of samurai in a duel. in reality my understanding is that most encounters like this are swift, brutal, and chaotic; you need to be able to shield your head/vitals/knife arm long enough for you to get in your attacks.
@@SirWalterSansRien I have no experience in any type of fighting. But I see a lot of brutal, violent shootings and fights online. Fights are exactly as you guys are saying, chaotic. Nothing is clean, everything is unpredictable, they look nothing like the movies. So practically, using that stance they’re saying really isn’t practical. I get what you guys are saying. I wanted to know proper ways to hold and defend if you guys could tell me. I’ve practiced on a tree and a problem I’ve had is that the blade closed in on my pinky finger and sliced through a tendon. I wanted to know, real proper ways because I feel it was a rookie mistake.
This seems to apply to pocket knives that are single edge. Some people carry double edge or full size knives with full tang
Excalibur01 ...and some people open carry a hipoint... I would say most people can identify with what he demonstrated.
If you have a double edged blade, don't put your thumb on the spine! :-)
No shit
Great stuff! It's always good to learn from people with experience. Thanks guys
2nd tip: be sure being at least 30 cm taller than your opponent
Shifting to lead with the knife side looks good. I'd scrap the folding knife and that thumb on top grip in favor of a ColonelBlades Lo Viz for $150.
Food for thought. Placing your thumb on the spine of the knife opens your grip. In a real knife fight (which I have had the displeasure of) a hard slice to the arm or boney part of the body MAY dislodge the knife from your hand....especially if your hands are sweaty...which they will be from adrenaline or bloody....which hopefully wont be yours. I experienced this exact thing during my situation. Just food for thought.
Hey Joseph can you provide your experience in that knife fight?
so you're telling me if my enemy stabs my arm I am likely to lose control of some parts of my arm and drop the knife. I don't think it matters what grip the knife is in at that point.
@@schukls993no dummy, read again. If you don't have your thumb covering the lack of grip from the 4 fingers, when your slashes gets interrupted by an impact against something hard, the knife will slip out of your hand. Try holding a knife with a filipino grip and beating a metal bar to see what happens
I heard its better to hold your knife back hand style so you have more angle to strike than a regular front hand strike like your doing
The thing with a reverse grip rather than an ice pick grip is that yes you have more power, but that power is aimed towards impaling and stabbing and is not accurate. A forwards grip is better for accuracy and slashing which is usually what you want to be doing in a fight. You also have much more range in a forward grip
@@willgagner8302 Does reverse grip not have the potential to be good defensively though? I.e blade facing inwards in reverse grip will slash for any block connected, plus thrusts will do more damage, but yeah does depend on blade size
@@tylarex You don't really block in real fights with blades. Shield were invented for a reason, reverse grip isn't bad for knives whatever you practice will be best of course. Forward grip gives more range
Was mostly interested in the inside knife grip of which I saw none unfortunately. This is crucial to minimize disarm opportunities of any more trained opponent, especially when reaching.
have you been in a knife fight ?
great advice thks
do you guys sell knives at top guns?
I always wondered why in the Resident Evil games why they switched stances when they pulled out their blade basically switching to Southpaw. The more you know! Thank you!
What knife is the best or recommendation?
That guy is a beast
Benchmade 940 Osborne. What a great knife! Love mine!
Benchmade 583 Barrage
Simple tactical stance. Makes sense.
Thx bros
Makes tons of sense but it gonna feel wierd for a while
excellent !!!!!!!!!
Sweet stuff love blade fighting stuff
basicly took a step forward. but i get the point
Well that was long winded
If you want to know how to knife fight ask a butcher not a rifleman.
Right lol.
That's nice.
It’s easy to do these things when you’re 7 ft tall and muscular, I don’t see this working for 5’3” 120 lb person.
Trust me a blade can do amazing things no matter how old or how big or small you are
lOVELY PUP (BACK GROUND)
Morgenstern. That's like Lucifer.
"Jimping"
I tried to access the link you provide in the description but it does not take me to what is mentioned in the video.
What about the reverse grip?
Hey Guys & Gals. My son is 9yrs old now. What age do you recommend kids start learning to shoot and what weapon type and caliber do you recommend? Great channel!
*hol' up*
Same principle in Fencing with swords =)
Does this tip applies to reverse grip also?
Revere grip would be more for impaling rather than slashing
Grrrr, i can see all the girls in the store drooling over him, KEEP HIM AWAY FROM JENN ! ! ! !
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Oh dear, FIRST.
Sorry. Not a comment. Just so ya know.
Technique similar to Aikido
No, it's more commonly reverse grip.....
Seagal uses it all the time!
I just lost my knife and I feel bad that why I am commenting cuz I'm sad. I literally lost a couple of minutes ago
Why does the military teach thar stance with the knife in the rear hand?
When you think about it, having the knife out front is mainly for defensive fighting because the blade is right there. In the military however, the reason they hold it in their back hand is to get the element of surprise and more aimed towards killing and offensive fighting. In a war zone kill or be killed type situation, the military arents just trying to hold a blade out and slash whatever they can, they are taught to hide that knife a little farther back, and then strike to penetrate and kill
@@willgagner8302 There are lots of ways to keep it hidden with the strong side forward. The main point is probably that they do not specialize in knife figting anyway.
Stab something with substance and tell me how well that grip works. And you're not putting pressure on the knife, you're putting pressure on your thumb. That grip is terrible.
Bull shit.
Wonder how many Palestinian kids have died from that thumb grip.