Quebec student drives to Ontario hospital after 15-hour ER wait
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2023
- A Quebec student drove to an Ontario hospital after waiting 15 hours in the ER with a ruptured appendix.
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Once they found out he had an Ontario Health card, they put him at the bottom of the list.
Agree
Im surprised they didnt just offer to MAID him instead of doing their jobs.
remember to stay healthy folks, dont rely on this collapsing system as much as possible.
Absolutely no excuse at any hospital for someone to be waiting around with a ruptured appendix, some nurses and Drs need to be let go over that one.
That is cruel and unacceptable. CHANGE THIS CANADA!
The problem with our healthcare system is doctors are told to prescribe pills instead of take any claim seriously to save money. Its sick. Its disgusting. Medical gaslighting is at an all time high.
Its crazy how you can get a prescription by a doctor over the phone and yet you don’t even speak to the doctor on the phone. The Canadian health system is disappointing. I always go private because of how incompetent public health care is.
Hospitals triage all patients when they arrive and are seen on their level of emergency. An appendix is high up on the emergency xcale and he should've been assessed by a doctor soon after arrival. Happy to see he is doing better now but it could've been tragic.
Nice Anglo-Saxon Girl Are You...
i had a broken foot and waited 16hours to even see a doctor.
@@Francois_Dupont Nobody should have to wait more than 3 hours to see a doctor in any ER even if they have to use stretchers in the hallways and portable privacy screens...patients would be more comfortable on a stretcher than sitting in a chair.
I suggest he bring legal action to the hospital AND the province. Nobody should have to nearly die because of the shoddy way health care is being practised across the country.
Last time I went to the er in Ontario a guy with 10 out of 10 pain in the appendix area didn’t get looked at or his number called for over a hour. I thought triage was you get at least looked at to be quickly assessed then given a number. Nobody was triaging in this er until your number came up.
unbelievable ! Such incompetent nurses and doctors must be fired.
No amount of money can fix our healthcare system
This is the norm for Quebec, I live here and that's not even the longest wait I've heard of within my direct circle
Its really not much better in ontario, i was in the oshawa hospital 2 weeks ago with very high fever and a blood infection. There was literally one doctor on for the whole emergency room. When we got there, there was 142 patients ahead of me. I got there at 6pm and got home around 830 am.
Ruptured appendix is a life threatening condition, the responses provided by spokesperson’s are beyond inadequate- they are murderously incompetent.
Every level of government should have these failures taken out of their political hides. There have BEEN things to do to fix these problems before they got to this level and they have been playing games, running out the clock at the expense of Canadians lives. For Shame.
So, what do you suggest...
@@michellephillips9968 That they do their job they only want to privative that where the money is [ for them ]
It's not incompetence, it's lack of resources. We lack Doctors yet the schools have a vested interest in not training many doctors so they can continue to charge outrageous fees due to their low supply.
@@Aureilius2112 it is governments that dictate how many spaces are funded in schools. I’m sorry to say but you are demonstrating ignorance of how the post secondary system works. We do not lack the resources- we chose not to allocate the necessary resources in favour of less important priorities such as tax welfare for wealthy corporate political influencers.
Governments have *everything* to do with how many doctors & nurses are being graduated & how many hospital beds per 100 thousand as well as how many GPs and nurses each province has. It’s rank incompetence kept in place by ignorance & complacency on the part of Canadians in every province.
@@jessd4048 As someone who’s been through post secondary education in the medical field I actually know what I’m talking about. Physicians and Nurses are self-regulated professions and while government can influence them, they aren’t directly in charge of how many RNs and MDs are being graduated. The CNO and CSPO are. They set the requirements for entry to practice and provide the accreditation to the universities.
I had a ruptured appendix, i almost lost my life 😢
WoW that crazy had to drive 15 hours in the ER.
Where did all the money go, hospitals were giving plenty of money last year.
massage parlours and golf courses...duh
They are trying to privatize
Actually, no. The Quebec premier spent COVID money and GAVE out cheques to Quebecors to ensure he was re-elected. So, no, the hospitals did not get that money (not in Quebec).
@@maranorth Umm, you do know that money allocated for health care cannot legally be diverted elsewhere? That said, request from the provincial health minister an accounting of how the money was spent. Ask for the report. All citizens are entitled to that information.
It was all spent on covid ideology.
4 hour wait in an Ontario hospital? Must have been the only one in emerg at the time. Because I don't have a family doctor I have to go to the hospital for most things, and I move around for work which makes finding a family doctor near impossible. So I have been to hospitals all over Ontario, Quebec and Nova Scotia. I swear they have a mandatory wait time of 4hrs regardless of number of ppl waiting. I've waited 4hrs when there were only 2-3 ppl ahead of me numerous times. And each time you can see the nurses and doctors chatting up a storm and joking around at the desk. Not sure how to fix things but our health care needs alot of improvements.
While I understand the difficulties in finding care, walk in clinics would be the better 1st choice for you
Getting care at any hospital immediately costs the system a lot more money (like an outrageous amount more) than an office visit and also clogs up the wait times for those in an emergency
You will get care faster too 👍
Canada has now dropped its standard of care to worse than the USA! Absolutely disgusting, horrendous & I hope this guy sues the hospital for not treating him accordingly! What an embarrassment to Canada!
Scrap the public system and keep the public insurance.
Optimize health care.
The money is being pocketed. It's that simple.
yes, i once said it would be quicker to drive or even fly to another province or country .... and he did it ! :)
I was hit by a car while driving my bicycle and waited 18 hours in Summerside PEI to be seen by a doctor.. Which I never did see.. So I drove to Charlottetown and was seen right away.. ! Props to the Staff in Charlottetown PEI
I was having an active miscarriage with tons of pain and had to wait 4 hours with no pain medications or any pads offered 😄👍
'Jimberly' and 'Bunziez" do not sound Quebecois Francais...
When did I say I was ? This was at an Ontario hospital. Terrible wait times everywhere for emerg.
only 4hour?! woah!
I waited 12 hours with gullbladder attack no help no pain meds. Worst pain ive ever experienced. Sick world
I bet you are fully jabbed.
46 billion, yep, billions.
Figure it out already, or get out of the way for someone who can.
What constitutes a "higher priority" than a rupturing appendix in a young person? Accurate diagnosis of appendicitis is scarcely challenging. Considering that "triage" derives from French, I would have expected Quebecers to understand its meaning.
This is getting bad. Should be universal health care across canada
Wait...he had to wait 4 hours at the Ontario emergency room, too? That's horrible aswell.
When you send Canadian citizens to foreign countries to go to medical school because the school makes more money by teaching International students that go back to their own country and refuse to let your citizens practice medicine here, theyll stay in the country they were taught in.
This is by design, the colleges of surgeons and physicians wants a shortage of doctors so they can get more money for their services.
100% true. They want to keep supply of doctors low so they can have more power and higher pay.
It is not about foreign training it is about poor training. The local millennials I have encountered here in Ontario are clueless . The older foreign trained doctors and nurses give much better care. But the wait times can be long as well.
@@Aureilius2112 it's so stupid
This is normal in the province of Quebec
Universal healthcare correlates with poor service.
This is where the importance of triage is most highlighted; if another patient was in worse shape fine but, to wait because others had "been there longer" is a crazy arguement
Brave family 😮
I had a cousin die because of a ruptured appendix. What is the use of free healthcare if the service is non existent
197% capacity? Jesus fcking Christ.
Sad. What a mess.
E hospital in Sudbury is horrible for waiting time.
and yet, they'd rather have tens of thousands of experienced physicians drive ubers than get them to work...fkn ridiculous
What an embarrassment for Quebec…..
I personally know an old friend who stayed home and died instead of dying anyway at the emergency in Montréal.
Took me like 2 years to get an operation I needed so 15 hours isn't that bad.
Same thing happened to me while taking my daughter to hospital in Trois Rivieres in February 2020... I turned out to be fine, but we both caught Covid 19, and it was BAD, we cpuld barely move, let alone breathe. We didn't know what it was at the time, so we did not know how deadly it could be and we decided we would NEVER go to Emergency for a 10 hour wait feeling as sick as we were feeling. We could have died as well...
It is sad but true in Quebec healthcare system. 9-hour wait time I am already thankful.
Kudos to you Sir Paul Brunet . 👍🏻👏👏👏🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
He’s not the only one I know a young girl same situation
Let that be a lesson to anyone trying to access medical care in Quebec, we rather see you expire on our turf then the rest of you may realize it is not worth the wait, oh there is exceptions if you are a well known celebrity or a politician in a position of power.
If he was French, he probably would have got through faster. Anglos tend to get substandard care in my experience. But even so, the wait times in QC hospitals are ridiculous because we don't have enough doctors and due to language laws and lower pay, they aren't coming here in the numbers needed. Quebec government wants Anglos to leave so they aren't going to care about that but this is now hurting all Quebeccers, not just Anglos.
I think Quebec needs to be erased you guys think your so much better then everyone referring to other Canadians as anglo
Nobody's graduating from medical school at McGill? At Laval? I find that hard to believe. Where are all THOSE doctors going? A question that NEVER gets answered.
@@sadee1287 place that pay them more and have a better health care system
What happened to medical priority VS waiting? I waited 16hrs month ago and that is only because there were unwell children and other emergencies ahead of me, and that is ok. This is dehumanizing.
Everything will get better with more immigration....lol unless everyone we bring into Canada is home builders, eletricians, nurses, doctors, orderlies.
The Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal, Quebec, should have sent patients to other hospitals when it was 200% over capacity. Although he suffered a medical emergency, others were worse and waiting longer, so he was neglected. He would've died had he waited longer at that hospital.
All Canadian hospitals exhibit similar crises. Christian Dube, Quebec Minister of Health, and Mark Holland, Canadian Minister of Health, must solve this. Are Canadians required to set up tent hospitals with military doctors performing operations?
Aside from wait times the quality of care is horrible. Out of three family members who were seen by the ER in the last few years, all three had an experience where the doctor made the wrong diagnosis, sent home without performing the necessary x-rays (MRI), because it is more expensive than a CAT scan, or an overdose of medication was administered. Literally 100% of the care my family received was wrong. Yeah great it's "free" - but at what cost??? Edit: by "free" I mean paid for in our taxes and not individually.
Well if you were paying for it you'd be heathy and living on the street. And the care l get here is for the most part excellent.
free? don’t you pay income taxes? I find it quite expensive for the use I make it of it, rather have private insurance
@@jacksht6308 Free, no, but even more so to my point - we are paying for a service that is not working.
@@MissEAG has it really worked? pull out old news papers and look at the capacity 200% over and that was years before covid, this social system is ripping apart from the seams, schools health care, roads, military everything is breaking down, we built a society that we can’t tend to
@@jacksht6308 Well, I agree, but the reason it isn't working is much more complex than that. It's the lack of interest, the lack of involvement at a local gov't level, and a lot has to do with how the world is now.. Signing up for the army before was a different situation than what we are/could be facing now. Technology is different. The world is different and the healthcare system is not adequate for today's needs no. But also the way ppl think, is very different.
If you're looking for money, start with the over $8 Billion given to Ukraine so far. That would go a long way to helping Canadians with their health care needs instead of prolonging a war where Ukrainians are getting slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands.
happy canada day so they say!
WTF!?
Canada has universal health care and anyone from any province who speaks EITHER official language should get the care they need without question or unreasonable delay. Unfortunately a situation like this will make others question if they want to work or study in Ontario (and this WILL have economic implications). I was in a hospital in Toronto and not one single doctor can speak French fluently.
400 millions to Ukraine are better spent I guess than supporting the hospital’s for Canadians
The hospital CEOs still get millions a year, yet the hospitals performance is abysmal. If there is no money, these CEOs should speak up and should not be paid this much. If it's bad management, these CEOs should be fired.
Go to USA. Especially if u have travel insurance or and private health insurance like Manulife or Canada life
Disgusting the healthcare system should be very ashamed of themselves. 😡
Everyone knows don't get sick in Quebec , crawl over the border and get into Ottawa or somewhere else . We were treated poorly as many I know feel the same , felt like a time.wRp and 1950s .
Interesting, my appendix literally burst, and they still released me the next day. Few staples, a piece of tape, and punted out that was years ago though.
12 hour wait in Abbottford Hospital as well h3r3 in BC
But you keep voting for the NDP. How odd. Smh.
@@briankroger7879 I don't see conservative governments past or present doing a better job. In fact, they want to gut the system.
Hope you like losing your house and life savings if your health takes a nosedive or you get in an accident.
@@sadee1287
In a lot of cases better than losing your life because you couldn't get adequate healthcare in a timely manner just so you could save a buck.
Some thing free never works in reality - should have options in private healthcare where govt should make the payment to insurance - other wise it’s going to be worsening day by day
the hypocritical oath states, do no harm to those under your care. this is harm. doctors have now become angels of death and suffering. evil. disgusting. inhuman. even the fallen angel is appalled.
Can he speak French? Just wondering !
If the patient was Trudeau’s son, would they have kept him waiting?? Wake up Canada
Stop building solitary confinement units!
TikTok :: Keep dancing nurses.... Keep dancing doctors.....
Quebec refuses to build their own hospitals is unable to staff due to language issues
Hire back all of the nurses and doctors that were fired for not getting the EXPERIMENTAL MRNA INJECTIONS
75% of tuition should be covered for all essential work
Wokka Wokka Wokka...
No tuition should be covered for illegal immigrants or international students. That includes taking jobs in this country to pay their tuition.
There are Learn and Stay grants at least in Ontario that allow you to have near total coverage of tuition if you agree to work in the province for the next few years
My daughter just graduated from nursing school in quebec there were 8 of them
Money maulfunction
It’s because kids with papercuts, who’s moms insisting on bringing them to ER - have priority for some reasons.
And don't forget about all the 'adults' hurt feelings. Poor hospital staff can't get their 'hurt feelings' treated.
Must be all the fairies in the lgbtq holding this up ..
Wait, there seems to be some kind of surprise here. Meanwhile, for decades (note decades, not weeks or months or even a few years) I have been repeating the same refrain: "Born raised, educated in this province. Never seen a bigger clown show than this place. Top to bottom."
Fortunately, unlike too many others, I am able to flee this place once a year for about a month, heading to the land where democracy was birthed, along with so many other notables provided to Western Civilization as we know it today. And then, it's back to Quebec. So, imagine, you visit the places where great men (and women) once walked the Earth, and then return to a form of Barnum and Bailey.
Also, during this time frame, I have been fortunate to have taken 9 trips down to the relatively small city in the mid-Western United States to take in an NFL game of the team I have followed since almost the same age as the young teen in the video, where he almost needlessly, shamelessly, recklessly (add any other adjectives you want) lost the opportunity to do a lot of the things we take for granted at that young age, and dream to do at a later age.
Fortunately, there is some glimmer of hope for Quebec. There is an up and coming, driven and dedicated younger population in various fields, looking to leave their mark and make a positive impact. Individuals such as my daughter, a medical student also doing cancer research, where rest assured, her interactions with patients to date is the POLAR OPPOSITE of what I heard with respect to this story, which was told to me at a get-together of friends on Sunday ... [so no need to get further upset and look at the video per se]. An example of this, in stark contrast to the story in question, would include a middle aged woman with children who credits my daughter for being alive after her request / demand that she immediately get a specific type of promising novel treatment to deal with the cancer that had now reached her brain, and where hope was fading fast. There is still a difficult road ahead, but at least she emerged victorious in this latest battle.
tbf CSUM/ Royal Vic is pretty trash, even though it's a new hospital, they have the most "i'm doing this for a paycheck attitude" i've ever seen for the most part. Even if you have an appointment, expect to wait hours.
Sounds like third world country here in Canada
It is ...
Do they not triage there?
In Dryden, Ontario I once spent 8 hours sitting in a room next to the front desk in emerge. I listened to them have a 6 hour long conversation about Jim Carrey movies they liked. Didnt speak to a person that whole time. I walked out.
Dude drove 15 minutes, across the bridge to downtown Ottawa.
Such a harrowing journey, frodo and sam would’ve never made it.
Royal Victoria is downtown Montreal. Even without traffic, Kingston is roughly 3 1/2 hours away. Not a trip someone in critical condition should ever have to make.
Masking should be outlawed! Still putting up with that CRAP . IF
He drove to Ontario to wait 14hrs for ER care !!! Brilliant !!
Not 14. It was 4.
@@ctaylorluce he got lucky Ontario is not any better..
When Quebec has failed the commons
Sounds like a socalistic hospital system. It’s wrong.
The problem isn't so much the "government funded" part but the "central planning" part and also "private ban" part. Government funding of healthcare is fine as long as you don't restrict private innovation and let each local hospital mange itself the way it wants. Sweden and Switzerland are great examples of successful mixed healthcare (public + private) with decentralized systems.
@@Marc-gj9vx Come on, we all know Quebecois will ignore you if you are not Quebec Francophone. Even my friend from France was looked down on for having the wrong 'accent'.
Blame Trudeau.
@@michellephillips9968 Im quebec francophone lol
@RandyLahey. Yeah thats the problem
The emergency rooms in the United States aren't much better these days. Believe me, I know all too well.
oh yeah? even though its expensive there is still wait lines?
@@votpavel Yes, long waits.
Thank you Captain Obvious...
Probably depends which but a brief Google research says on average it's like 40 min. Like in Ontario 4 hours wait time isn't bad at all if we compare that. But Quebec system is atrocious with probably days of wait time. The guy would have been dead before receiving care in QC.
hey fire more drs for not rolling up their sleeve ...remember !!!
sending billions to zelenskky isnt helping our health care ??????naw ....
Quebec having a language police isn't either. Yet, we do that too.
@@angelagendreau3586 What about the Hopital juive de montreal ? Do you have any idea what are you talking about lol
You get what you pay for.
soooo you can use quebec medicare in ontario ??
Dont know how. Im in sudbury ontario and have to wait 7-12 hours for emergency medical care 😂 so not sure wtf ia going on
No sympathy for settlers.
He’s Greek. Look at him, he’s got Mediterranean written all over his face
@@saxonthegermanshepherd2809 Therefore a Settler. This is not Greece.
Isn’t he a citizen? He’s gone through the process of becoming a Canadian Citizen and is studying to be something, why would he have no sympathy because he looks like he’s from Greek descent?