How realistic is the DISNEY CASTLE?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- How realistic is the Disney Castle when compared to historical castles and could it repel a siege if it was actually attacked?
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Only mistake I can see in this video is when he talks about how the many internal buildings create a flaw in the defense: I believe it is too bold to assume that The Mouse doesn't have his servants' quarters rigged to explode at a moments notice.
You had us in the first half lmao
"This family friendly castle is actually much more deadly than I originally thought!" This made me laugh so hard! 😂
That pretty much sums up everything about Disney :p
@xrarelightx -- Next video: "How Effective Would Winnie the Pooh be with a Bomb Belt?""
@@LieutenantSilver hello
This castle begs the question who exactly Disney is trying to defend against. Such an impressive castle must have been built to challenge a most dangerous foe.
Yaldabaoth A fortress of such magnitude was needed to defend against the most dangerous(bit not the most cunning) of foes:
Michael Bay
Dragons? WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS!?
Probably the Horned King and his undead army. Can zombies swim?
coyoteseattle And the Warner Sister, Dot!
People angered by them, they have plenty of them, for examply Last Jedi is their creation
One thing I think to keep note of, in the castle introduction, you see a steam train and a city that looks to be from the late 19th century, it's likely that the building in the courtyard were added far after the castle had lost its use as a military structure, especially since the internal courtyard buildings have a 19th century urban almost Parisian look to them.
Yes
“They told me I was DAFT to build a castle in the swamp but I did it all the same, just to show them! It sank into the swamp, SO! I built a second one. That sank into the swamp so I built a THIRD one. That burned down, fell over, and sank into the swamp, but the FOURTH one stayed up!” -Walt Disney
(Not really)
Would this be in regards to the one in Florida? Being mostly swamp and all.
Monty Python reference.
That gets a like from me.
Eh, close enough! Good reference 😉
Great reference. Ironically the land Disney World is built on WAS all swamp before Disney got there.
Didn't the fourth one disappear mysteriously on the day of its comissioning and it's the 5th one that survived to serve its purpose?
.... no, wait. That was Babylon 5
A fantasy castle that's actually defendable? That's a pleasant surprise
And whether there is a defense installed there against the stupid and childish Disney princesses?
There is another fantasy castle/fortress (they call it fortress, even if its the home and centre of the antagonist and ruler of this game world), which might be unraidable by common armies: Ishar (if you go by its game origins), or if you have read some fantasy books, then you may know it as Anderras Darion (Chronicles of Hawklan). I prefer Ishar, and you may take a look at this fortress :)
www.mobygames.com/game/ishar-legend-of-the-fortress/cover-art/gameCoverId,1262/
Painted by Mark Harrison. Ishar 3 also have an intresting castle as cover.
So.... it turns out that best friends are stupidity and gimmicky...
He should examine the castle of Canterlot, the Equestrian capital.
Rohan Zener
Isnt it built into a cliff?
With a huge drop off?
Also considering most castles in the equestrian territories dont seem to have the best defences besides the castle of twin sisters which is connected to land by a bringe over a huge drop off i dont want to know how canterlot would rate. Especially since it and the castle of two sisters was made with the knowledge that multiple flying races with armies exist i mean sure they had one of them but that doesnt discount that there is some bad design there
Expectation: it's a fantasy palace LMAO 😂
Reality: *it's an almost impenetrable fortress, the likes of which we rarely have seen* ò_ó
𝔐𝔠𝔉𝔯𝔶𝔢 AND, the design of the buildings in the outer bailey suggests that it will be defended by a mix of ceremonial halberdiers/swordsmen in breast plates as well as breech loading, rifled black powder cannons and needle or percussion cap rifles.
I also get the feeling that if it was a real historical castle it was one that had all the outer walls form when it was built and the later eras would build the sevants quarters and the huge castle towers in the middle when the primary purpose was no longer defensive.
And what you said is kind of adept for the Disney company itself, when you look at it it is much more impressive than your first impressions.
Expectation: family friendly fun stuff
Reality: Terrifying.
Disney in a nutshell
I'm no longer looking at it the same way, that's for sure! Those double battlements / walls, damn!
But as Nicholas said, it is a perfect metaphor for Disney. In almost every way.
Watching this video I get the impression that the castle's weaknesses are due to newer construction, possibly from the owners changing focus from military defense to trade relations during a long peacetime.
The courtyards could have once been clear and defensible, but have since been opened to the public.
The higher towers without ramparts could have been built later, with intent to inspire, not to intimidate.
It makes you wonder about the hypothetical history of a fictional castle.
(Extra fictional, since it's not even from any of the actual stories)
If you think of this castle as having a history, those many buildings that are in the way of a courtyard may have been built during a later period that had peace. Therefore, its original design by its builders may have been strategically sound only to be replaced with the addition of more buildings when that was needed far more. I'm actually curious to see a Disney movie of the history of this castle. They could even get a whole trilogy out of it, assuming an interesting story. BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It's as excellent as... MACHICOLATIONS!
Disney probably wired those extra buildings with explosive charges so they could be leveled in case the courtyard is ever breached.
If I may expand on this.....
Period one: Inner wall (open topped) only on an island protecting a moderate central building; founding of the kingdom.
Period two: Addition of the outer wall (still open topped) to create the approach by boat only design; growth in power.
Period three: Addition of roofs to the defensive walls and a tall watchtower (perhaps the highest tower still existing) overlooking the surrounding area; increased conflict
Period four: Building up of the central keep's taller buildings; borders stabilize and potential attackers rarely manage to attack the growing tall structures.
Period five: Building of courtyard buildings; peace reigns, but bandit raids common encouraging living within the walls.
I thought the same thing. Then I thought, maybe the internal structures were built on top of previous smaller structures that served as elevated platforms for trebuchets so they could outrange anything brought against them.
Regallag: An interesting thought.
I really should check the comments before posting the same thing someone already posted, lol. Yeah, same thought here. Great idea on them making a series of films with a story centered around it, though! That's awesome!
Very, very good review, Shad! Also, to put my 50 cents to the topic: I feel the reason of this castle's potential existence is not necessarily to protect the occupants of the castle, but to be a barrier or even abatis for the river. Notice how the castle has huge, huge gates and tunnel through! Also I disagree that the gates are meant for the castle's entrance, I feel they are to moderate merchant flow of the river. Please notice how behind the Disney Castle there is this large lake! Then this huge, defense-wise pointless, tall towers are not meant for repelling sieges, but are actually watch towers, possibly even having something along signal towers or lighthouse for merchant ships sailing on the lake! Secondly, I think that main entrances to the castle/palace are actually those two bridges at the sides of the castle, making it essentionally something akin to huge over the top barbican (?) at the top of the bridge over the river's estuary, moderating land flow of goods from one side of the river to other. Thirdly, I feel that this castle as depicted at the Disney's opening animation is something along the line of fictional modern-day rendering of much older castle, rebuilt and remade. Notice how in the background there is railroads and steam engine running. Also, there is evident electricity lighting up entire castle, which is somehow anachronistic. Therefore I deduct that the houses inside the castle's primary walls are built there MUCH later than the castle's historical and active times, being there for various, modern reasons (such as ie. accomodating bureaucrats, officers, lawyers and transit offices for the merchants crossing the river. That would also explain the lack of the moat, which probably existed from the bridge to bridge, but was unnecesary/problematic in later epoch and eventually filled in. Overall, I would never even think that Disney Castle could have such possible potential! Thank you, Shadiversity for being such a fuel for thougts!
If this is just a merchant watchpoint, what are the REAL castles like???
@@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices Massive, concentric fortresses with walls as thick as those on the Great Wall of China
This here, my fellow companions, is pure passion. Thanks for the absolute awesome content, Shad. Keep up with the good work.
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I am not sure about if you've included what we have in the UK namely the fully functioning Buckingham Palace but really the best way of seeing that's like an Office of State really since our Monarch is our Head of State. The reality is no Monarch (certainly not from now on) is allowed to change the Palace without approval, their own apartments within it yes they can do whatever they want to theirs, of which two children of the Monarchs live there (are their fully registered addresses as such) those being Princess Anne (The Princess Royal, since she's the only daughter of the Monarch) and Prince Andrew (the Duke of York), their official apartment residences are actually at the front of the Palace whereas the Monarchs is actually when looking at it from the front is around the back to the right.
Though of course it's Windsor that's the oldest of them all in this country, is used more for Celebrations really Buckingham's not used for much other than the HQ of Monarchy wasn't meant for celebrations as it's not really got any rooms for that kind of thing.
I do really enjoy by concept the same thing even really still a fully functioning one though even real Monarchies to say fictional ones, it's absolutely fascinating like I mean Victoria in the 1800's being the first Monarch to marry since she genuinely did love Prince Albert, before her was all about maybe the consolidation of power, wasn't ever much marrying for love, actually a lot of what we have (certainly the front of Buckingham Palace that's for certain and even some parts of the interior come from Victoria's son's reign, like the State Ballrooms never changed much since his reign if at all) comes from Victoria herself certainly recently anyway.
@Siegfried but being built around 1860, Neuschwanstein is irrelevant to discussion of its historicity; it is simply another fantasy castle drawing on historical inspiration.
Here! Here!
Loved it as always :)
However i want to say that as a former civil engineering student, their is a bit of a problem : the river flows bellow the huge main keep, and I do not know if anyone would want to build such a massive stone building just on top of a river.
It would actually make more sence to divert the river on the sides of the structure, to have a more solid basement for the foundations.
while I'm not sure of the the engineering side, the stratigic benifits would be great; easy resupply from friendly ships straight off the sea, even under siege, a good escape rout, control of the river, constant water, an easy moat, wetland caused by the stone foundations displacing water during high tides (making siege engines get bogged down) and maybe even flooding out attackers on high tide, putting attackers on a time limit.
Direct access to a river using bridge building techniques such as the original London bridge is a river baron's dream.
I have been finding this comment because i wondered this long time and had me thinking when i first saw the castle: is it even inspired by the château de chenonceau? Well i think because it even towers the river too en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Château_de_Chenonceau
I like how Shad knows the power he wields with the word "machicolations". He chooses to save our ears. Now thats a power move
antontornqvist Haha, yeah, I was waiting for the headphone-user warning and was pleasantly surprised
If only he quit mispronouncing it as "machiculations." His battle cry is inspiring, but also kind of irks me for that reason.
Always love Shad's castle analyses though.
You should look at Hyrule Castle from The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
which one? every single game had a different castle.
Haha i came on to ask the same thing
Nintendo would demonotize it lol.
@@voxelgon3391 What do you mean, didn't he write which game the castle is from? Or does the actual castle change every playthrough perhaps?
@@voxelgon3391 I love the Hyrule Castles in Skyward Sword and Majora's Mask
I will say that if they did breach the first wall those buildings could slow down the enemy quite a lot. Not only do they have to go around the buildings, it might be hard to bring up large siege equipment with how narrow the streets are, but if you chucked a couple guys with spears on those narrow streets they could be fairly hard to kill. It limits the avenues of approach to the main keep and keeps the larger enemy formations together which means your archers just need to aim at a concentrated blob.
Tarnfalk And if you could effectively block off sections and prevent people from entering the buildings you could leave arrowmen in each buildings or at least men with rocks or anything hard and damaging and chuck down while the enemy force attacked the spear men. And if you could move to the other buildings and leave behind a burning blaze of buildings before a ultimate retreat deeper into the castle you will have a bunch of useless buildings to the enemy that could cause damage by falling down on the enemy and blocking parts of the keep. But again the downside is you could not counter siege equipment with your own. Though it'd be interesting if they could have enough servants that they would be able to quickly demolish those buildings to reuse to increase the defenses of the castle quicker without the need of having to always keep supplies that are never used except for that one use. So hard to say either way.
Something else, the buildings could be built so that they have blocking walls in the middle of them. Would severally break up units stationed inside and help to prevent flanking through buildings.
I actually wonder if the buildings are actually on higher elevation. I was designing a castle like that with a river the flowed through it, and with the size of the main gate, I would put a port inside the outer wall with the buildings raised up.
wow, intressting - didn't expect this castle to fare that well XD
i like how considered you are about this videos :D
keep up your awesome work
@@michaelsimkins7078 Could you at least consider English not being his/her first language. Just think about that before you correct someone's grammar.
@@michaelsimkins7078 And who said you were a Nazi?
The buildings are so tall because Disney has to keep all their lawyers somewhere.
First Last yeah, those "Lawyers" of defence don't earn their keep otherwise ;)
I thought Disney kept it's lawyers in the basements of its buildings.
ruclips.net/video/xBCXCwW5pRw/видео.html
Real footage of a Disney executive sending out the lawyers from the tower
+like
Haha -- scarier than Vikings!
Headcanon: The inner buildings were built in the castle after the many battles were fought, and it had overseen its use. Now the inner buildings that were built to fill up the space are not just for servants, but they are hotels, studios, houses, and even places for old pieces of sets and artifacts to be held. There could be tightly knit shops and taverns, places where tourists could come after their long train ride (if you don't recall the train in the title card the Disney Castle is featured in, that's fine.) It is a place where the ghosts and phantoms of past Disney Executives and Employees can roam, if not rest in peace. Disney Animations and 'Toons come to life with the characters running amok, and perhaps even going to the many parks by some means to light the spark of dreams in young children. Its the home of everything that Lord and King, Sir Walter Elias Disney had created in his time alone in a cramped apartment.
and it is WAY more than just possible.
To many, to those who still believe, it could be out there somewhere.
Keep dreaming, kids. And keep up the great videos Shad. I would support you on Patreon if I had the resources.
to back up this Headcanon: The battles were mostly fought against the forces of the House of Pixar, led by their lord Stephen Jobs, but then they came to a truce, and the Disney Castle no longer needed to be kept fornicated. Although they bicker, and have issues of Copyright Claims to another peasant village, the DreamWorks Provinces, who are kingless and try to rule themselves with a federal martial law; They seem to be pretty overpowered and otherwise are just a glorified Hotel, now.
If you listen really hard you can hear Mickey Mouse laughing manically from atop the highest tower.
darkblood626 I AM YOUR EVIL OVERLORD HuhHa!
Why wuldn't he? He has a castle to keep all the kidnapped princesses, and they can't possibly be rescued.
ruclips.net/video/YE8PTMSFMUg/видео.html XD
man I could actually hear him playing an organ and see a shadow of a pop collar cloak with ears
Gay Mickey by Filthy Frank
"We're gonna crucify Mickey Mouse."
*Mickey in his castle* "Try it you bastard! Ha ha."
I'm blown away by that model.
Me too, I was like DAMN
Same. I was like, "Holy crud, that castle is HUGE!"
I have a new appreciation for the Disney castle.
Looks like a once more militarily focused castle that, after decades of peace and supremacy in the kingdom, has become a more prestige focused symbol of power with the building of extravagant keeps and buildings in the bailey to open more room for royal visitors to be awed by it's magnificence.
Ermenher more like a few centuries, considering a cathedral of the same height can take a more than a hundred years to make
Well, that's definitely a good take on it.
Repurpose castle concept is not bad. At first it's made there because it's location.
Then after decades of peace and time. Moat filled with sediment. Renovation happens. It's loss some of it function for design. And because of location courtyard turn in to buildings.
A nice metaphor for Disney itself, maybe?
Considering we can see a steam train in the background, I'd assume the pictures this analysis bases on are from not earlier than late 19th century, at which point the castle had long been out-dated for military purposes.
Those spires must be meant to impale griffins.
Oh, and dragons. Don't forget dragons.
www.deviantart.com/saberrex/art/Doube-barreled-Fire-Quencher-Ballista-425430415
Modern fortifications include surface to air missiles, cannons, and machine gun turrets. To me, dragons are the fantasy equivalent to war planes and space ships.
I love the idea of seeing "some guy" in a dark gambison looking up at the castle in Disnyland and saying DAMN THESE ARE FAKE MATRICULATIONS! Kids are then horrified by their lack of protection.
Evil Paradigm lol, this made my day 😂
So wait, it faked its registration paperwork? I mean that's disappointing but does that really influence how much defense it provides? Maybe not as much legal defense I guess...
Gambeson.
I would imagine the Disney Castle would be considered as a national capital in an imaginary Renaissance world. For being so large, this would be where the Kings and Lords meet every century for a ceremonial celebration for some long maintaining treaty of peace.
If I was a general, I wouldn't dare try to siege the Disney castle. I just nod my head and smile in respect to the grand design and move my army along. An absolutely beautiful castle and to see it in 3D model is impressive.
Actually, to assault it would be suicide, but to siege it would be easy enough.
It is clearly in a marsh, with a river running through it. That means your seigeworks need only cover the four points of access - the two bridges, upstream, and downstream.
The downside is that while locking the castle in is easy, your forces will be quartered and at some great distance from each other over difficult land to traverse.
The bridges likely have gatehouses or other fortifications where they meet land that would have to be taken, but once taken, defending the bridge from sally from the castle would be easy. Likewise, you could roll up your bombardment, fire a few volleys, and then withdraw at will with relative impunity.
The river fortifications would be more to prevent resupply (by boat or barge). This could be augmented by "locking down" the portcullis for the river passage. Floating logs to get jammed in and through the portcullis would make the upstream side exceptionally difficult to raise.
Because of this, I assume that those multiple buildings are primarily warehouses for storing and managing stores - since this is a castle that locks you as well as keeping the other guy out.
Assault: No outer gatehouse, locking the portculis (misplacing a sturdy walking stick in the rails) is probably enough to storm the castle.
Siege: The towers don't protrude enough leaving the base of the walls unprotected for mining. A slant roof giving enough protection from any machicolation nastiness.
Or... Just navally blockade the city. If they can't fly, they'll surrender eventually. If they don't, pull an Alexander and drain the moat by blocking the river upstream.
Regarding the internal buildings, I like to think that these were added at a later period, when being defensible was no longer a concern. As shown in the Disney logo intro, this castle existed at least into the 1800s, when steam trains were running. So it's plausible that the internal buildings are a later addition. The same could be argued for the larger keep as well.
Shad Fact: Having developed a fighting style using frying pans(Pan-Do). Shad has begun development of other fighting styles with other baking instruments. The including Rolling Pin kendo, and a shield kata using baking sheets.
Is it possible to learn this power?
this is actually a good idea for an april fools video
Love this video, Shad!!! But you know _Disney_ is gonna give you biggest copyright strike *_ever,_* don't you?
Killiter 1, not from an art historian.
This is beautiful.
6:30 well the short answer is "Forced Perspective"
Also, in the logo's animated film, it is often obvious (in the long version) that the bridges on the sides are actually a train tunnel. The castle is constructed OVER a train trestle bridge. This means that it's not really a bridge designed for foot traffic at all, but also probably that there is a train station inside the castle.
The odd thing is that the train track level is BELOW the top of the river tunnel. So either the train track stops, or there is a train track drawbridge inside the castle.
That might have been it with some little bit long walls because it towers over the river
I turned down my sound expecting the "MACHICOLATION" , but it did not happen lol. I Really like those 3D model, it help a lot to visualize. Thanks for the hard work.
me too.. hahahaha
Even after I read your comment, I still braced myself as it was coming up.
Regarding counter fire from the castle to the defenders. You forgot that in the Disney universe they have canons. So those outer and inner towers may support a full gun battery, that would make any attempt to bombard the inner buildings suicidal. In fact the level of technology in the Disneyverse is closer to renaissance period than the medieval one
Go figure that Disney has a more realistic castle than most video games and movies. Good stuff.
I mean, I bet most of the Disney writers like Medieval stuff. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many stories set there. Shame the Black Cauldron didn't succeed. It was the most Medieval of all the things there.
President Togekiss It's not so much that Disney writers really like Medieval stuff as most of those classic early Disney movies were based on classic fairy tales that were first written and set in sometime during the Medieval period.
true
Probably because t's literally based on an actual, real world castle.
I mean, there are six Disney parks around the world with a castle as their centerpiece, so they're gonna pick up a few things along the way
Disney should totally build a full scale replica. Not like they don't have the funds, they probably wouldn't even notice the cost xD
Disney castle is deadly castle confirmed. Don’t mess with the King Mouse.
Somebody tried once, though. Got smashed by a giant Key-Sword wielded by loyalists.
It won't happen again, and the King Mouse shall fall with his kingdom. Allahu Akbar!
The king of a grand fantasy world!
I would imagine the inside is so grand and luxurious it makes versailles look like london tower
Another way the castle is defended is the side bridges would get in the way during a siege, limiting where they can set up catapults thanks to the rivers. The armies would also have communication and structure issues with having to split their forces up due to the bridges, essentially cutting the forces in half or eve into fourths.
You mean the arched bridges give cover or can be used to bring in a stormram. But that's cheap and immoral
Shad, you have to remember, much like real castles, the Disney Castle was modified after the medieval period. Those buildings in the bailey? Added in the 1870s to house the various minsters of government. The bridges to the postern gates---some how you missed that those are railroad viaducts added in the 1850s to connect the Castle to Main Street and Frontier Town. Sure, it's a medieval castle at heart, but much like, say Windsor--it's been overlaid with modern conveniences.
Sadly, the MACHICOLATIONS were boarded up during some restoration work in the 1930s.
@@andyjwagner You can't have tourists falling into the alligator-infested moat.
Shad's dedication to these videos is awesome. Not many other people would be willing to re-create an entire castle and then make an in-depth and well made video about it. Keep up the good work!
Wow, this is why I love this channel. Quality content with attention to detail in an area you clearly have a passion for. I love your 3d models 🎖️👍
you should be getting awards for the amount of effort you put into these videos
Just want to say, I'm a guy working several jobs. The few hours of rest that I have, I watch your videos. It's that good and definitely worth my time. Thank you for these contents.
Who are stupid enough to attack the Disney castle full of powerful superheroes, villains, monsters, magic beings and cute, wily and adorable characters?
probably supervillains, antiheroes, evil monsters, sorcerers and wicked men?
ryttyr Nah,they will never do that as they will surely want to see more of their evil kins' bad Disney movies (too many to mention).
Not to mention *shudders* Jar-Jar Binks.
And Jedi.
kirby march Barcena Thanos?
I'm not a big Disney fan, but your video is blowing me away. Your clear knowledge and enthusiasm is infectious--the earmarks of a good teacher. Thanks for entertaining and educating me today and kudos on a job well done! You KNOW I'ma hit that subscribe!
I never knew I wanted so much information about the Disney castle, but this is wonderful. Thank you Shad!
An extremely detailed and well worked video Shadiversity.
Thank you.
I was just shocked when I see the model you made, so detailed and nice.
You've outdone yourself Shadiversity! Fantastic analysis. Disney should give you some swag. Now if only you could add some textures to your 3d model...
I was laughing so hard I could barely breathe at the machicolation joke. Also: who'd a thunk the Disney castle would actually have some pretty decent defenses?
I was expecting one Shad, and I got four? I'm impressed _and_ pleasantly surprised.
It's a cleverly disguised metaphor representing their legal team.
I tend to watch these on 1.25 or 1.5 (in this case) x's speed, when the set-up came for it I braced myself for a quick loud ausult on my ears, what I got sounded like a march of chipmunks on crack! XD
Zarvain oh my gosh that's amazing!
Shad loves castles? What a shocking twist; I was certain he hated them with a passion.
Mmmmm you have to balance practical use versus defence. Also those internal buildings were probably wood. During a long extended siege they would probably be dismantled and the timber put to use. Alternatively if an invading army had successfully taken the outer wall by surprise and was massing for an attack on the inner wall setting those inner buildings on fire would be really bad for an invading army crowed in the streets in the middle of an attack.
Or those buildings were later additions, made after castles became obsolete.
The inner buildings are in Mansart style, 17th. As a 17th century fortress it sucks big time.
Great video Shad!! Thanks! This is the castle I was wanting you to do the most!
Good job remaking that castle who would have thought Disney was ready to defend their empire so long ago but seriously they put some thought into that or the person they hired was really dedicated.
imagining the castle full of lawyers now.
This is the best channel ever. So delightfully informative. I'm so glad you exist Shadiversity.
Now I want a movie/Kingdom hearts level in which the Disney characters have to defend this castle from a siege. We could have:
-Robin Hood and Meridia (with support from John Smith) firing down from the battlements
-Tarzan running from rooftop to rooftop bringing supplies
-the Gargoyles awakening to throw enemies off the wall at night
-Basil of Baker Street performing espionage
-Hercules on the bridge guarding a side enterance against attack
-the Black Pearl in the bay or river, firing on enemies
-Mulan organizing anti-trebuchet cannons in the courtyard or an the roofs of the inner buildings
-Peter Pan harassing attackers from the air.
-King Triton and the merfolk defending the river
-Stitch and his cousins throwing people off the walls.
And of their enemies attacking the castle:
-Captain Hook could sail directly up to the walls and open fire or oppose the Black Pearl
Maleficent in dragon form could fly over and would be more than a match for Peter Pan-enen the Gargoyles would have trouble dealing with her.
Hades and Jafar have magic and could charm defenders-only Merlin and the Genie could really oppose them.
Ursula also has magic and wouldn't be bothered by the moat.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Put the wizard from Fantasia on the tallest tower, and man the inner town with the furniture from the Beast’s castle in case the besiegers make it through
that is AWESOME!
Also, Hiro flying on Baymax and using microbots and rocket fists against the attackers.
The problem is that all those "defenders" are from different periods of time joined together, so we can't tell on what technological level the regular soldiers of the attacking army would be(because along with Disney villains, there should be a big army, as it's necessary to vastly outnumber the defenders to be able to take the castle)
If it is a medieval army, then they would have a reeeealy hard time conquering it.
But considering that we see a steam powered train in the background, that sets a possible time period from mid 19th century all the way to mid 20th century.
If it's a 19th century army: The castle would fall, maybe not that quickly, but it would. 19th century artillery already had high explosive rounds, it would destroy the walls quickly and soldiers armed with rifles have advantages over swords and even magic users inside, as its quicker to pull the trigger than cast a spell. There would still be quite a few casualties on the attacking side.
If it is a 20th century army, especially from WW2 era, the castle would fall within one hour. There is nothing even magic users could do against hundreads of bombers which would obliterate the castle. Black Pearl would be sunk by one bomb from a Stuka or Destroyer and Gargoyles would be shot down by P-51 Mustangs. Magic users could kill soldiers, but their magic lacks range and precision compared to rifles and their magic attacks wouln't be able to penetrate tank armor. Hercules may be strong, but he's not bulletproof, Triton couldn't survive the depth charges or Kraken(who would be on the attacking side) and archers would be dead pretty quickly. If there is the sea the Black Pearl could defend, that means the attackers could bring battleships and aircraft carriers(clearly an overkill by this point). Sure, Elsa could freeze the sea, but battleships can fire beyond horizon, so she couldn't see them coming before they get in range.
So, all in all, the only army that the castle could defend from is anything before gunpowder era
ancient and medieval army- easy
gunpowder era army- hard, even with magic
19th century army- very hard
post WW1 army- impossible
@@sean668 The Wousky Wabbit-I mean New Line Cinema, or Peter Jackson, gave a visualization of how wizard's towers work. Saruman casts a spell on top of Orthanc that intensifies the storm in Caradhras Pass where the Fellowship happened to be at the time.
No idea how I ended up here or why I'm watching this video but damn buddy, thumbs up for effort on the 3d design. Liked and subbed.
Same
Before I really got into castles through your channel I always saw fantasy castles as the most beautiful but now whenever I see a historically accurate castle my heart skips a beat. Last week I went hiking with my parents and on the way there we drove past a castle ( Schloss Staufeneck) , we immediately pulled in and visited it. Best. Day. Of. My. Life.
I never gave a crap about castles. Really.
One random video recommendation and bam I'm suddenly hooked, binging your youtube channel and trying to get colleagues to discuss random castle facts and information
I was always obsessed with castles ever since i played age of empires 2 as a kid.
Without watching, could it repel a siege? Possibly, depends on who's home. Do you want Elsa using ice powers on you? Or any other prince/princess using their powers on you? And is it just Disney, or do Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars live in there too? If all that's true, there is no assaulting this castle.
Now I want to see such a thing. Army attacking the Disney Castle, all Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, comes out to defend it. In fact, go ahead and reply how you think it would go down. Who'd do what. And we could have 2 versions, one where it's just all the heroes, and one with all the Disney villains too. And yes, I do agree with the idea it's built on wetlands, possibly inspired by Florida itself. In fact, you could even make a guess that that's where it is. So any attackers would have troubles getting there due to an extremely high water table. But at the same time, construction would also be a problem.
SheosMan117 Not to mention hordes of Gators, monitors, and Burmese pythons all out in the wild. 😉😉😉
nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
This is BRILLIANT. Hats off to Shad’s 3D modelling and attention to detail. Thoroughly enjoyed this video😀
Question: assuming the Disney Castle was a historical castle, could we assume it started as a highly defensive, extremely well made castle that slowly developed into more of a Versailles type palace? all those buildings inside might as well be administrative buildings, as opposed to servants quarters.
AlucardNoir , actually that may make sense, the smaller buildings inside the wall may be added later in peaceful era.
This makes sense, another situation where I could see such making more sense is if in later years you had less issues with people wanting to take and occupy your land so you don't really need to worry about sieges anymore but still need to deter raiding parties looking to steal goods and/or people. I could see such being useful in such as the 16th and 17th century if you happen to be near the coast and don't particularly want your people to be kidnapped by Barbary slavers for example. I suspect a fortress like this would likely just send raiders of that nature sailing to a softer target further up the coast.
Maybe not a Versailles type palace, but something akin to Neuschwanstein.
I love when a historical perspective and an artistic perspective come together to piece such a behemoth and both sides can help each other learn more about it. Also to be completely *nitpicky* you are missing the backside of the castle and a few towers on the sides, again nitpicks but something Ive noticed over the years. I would love to see you tear apart all Disney castles ever. from 1937 to 2018 including the live action remake castles. That's a series I would watch on repeat
I.. Ju.. Shad holy cow man. I feel spoiled by the sheer amount of work you put into this.
Holyshit great job on the model!
I love your approach to getting the scale right. Sarah just heard that bit and said "that's the kind of thing you would do".
I have a personal thank you, since I am framing and writing a story in which the survivors of a future calamity discover that one of last remaining functioning communities in the country is, in fact, the former Walt Disney World - since it was designed and constructed as much as possible as a self-contained city, the "crew members" and various tourists who survived banded together to make it one in fact, dismantling some of the rides for materials as needed and using much of the undeveloped territory to start farming. Once again, the vast citrus groves of central Florida return to help feed the population...
I'll shout you out if it's ever completed, my man. Good stuff here.
Huh, being built over a river like that means they can more efficiently import goods than by roads, behind the castle we can see a bay therefore the Disney castle would have very easy ocean access. WHAT WERE THESE DESIGNERS ON AND *HOW DID THEY PULL THIS OFF!*
Though building it would be a nightmare and you'd have to deal with tides and floods.
Huntracony “they told me I was DAFT to build a castle in the swamp but I did it all the same, just to show them! It sank into the swamp, SO! I built a second one. That sank into the swamp so I built a THIRD one. That burned down, fell over, and sank into the swamp, but the FOURTH one stayed up!”
there is actually cities built on swamps, and they almost did the same thing you described
陳榮宗, I know, I live in one. Amsterdam. It makes construction very noisy due to piling. It also makes tunneling very hard, so no extensive underground metro networks. We get canals though, so I guess that's cool.
陳榮宗 there's one place in russia which city is build in swamp. When stalin wanted to build airbase there. the engineer told it was a bad idea and cancel his plans. I don't think anyone told much much later same thing to putin. When he planned sotsi's olympic area though...
Wow I wasn't expecting the Disney castle to fare as well as it does! Incredible video Shad!
Very cool model, Shad! I was wondering if the castle was build with very soft, boggy soil on both sides. That might explain the long bridges leading to the 2 side entrances and it would prevent an enemy from rolling a trebuchet close enough to the castle walls to damage the internal buildings that stand so tall. Probably no way to tell but it's fun to think about although it might make constructing the castle impossible.
The use of irrigation, or simple massed labor, would have made something like that possible in the classical period. But I don't know if anyone in the Medieval period could gather enough massed peasant labor to do so. But I do know that draining entire flood plains is quite possible. IIRC, the Chinese did, the Japanese used something similar when preparing their terraced farms, and I think a few ultra rural nations still do it today.
It's possible that the buildings in the courtyard actually double as a ready supply of building materials for a siege, being torn down when a siege is imminent/begins and having the courtyard cleared.
I think the lack of a moat going all the way around makes sense if the purpose of the castle is to control traffic along the waterway as well as the surrounding area. With a moat the entire way round you can slip past, but if the only way down the river is to go *through* the castle this becomes much more difficult.
Sailing around the moat would take time. Plenty of time for the castle to 'deal' with you via thrown rocks ect...
Although some wooden spikes, or a few rocks/stone towers just below water level would make it fully impassable to boats.
A large boat, yes, but a small rowboat or canoe, or even someone swimming? You could slip past easily in bad weather.
Getting a small boat through would depend on the spacing of the posts. 2 or 3 rows of staggered posts would be impassable to everything except swimmers.
And if people are willing to swim the moat, more power to them. Personally I'd just walk/wade/swim around the castle at a safer distance.
In all honestly, if one wants to move illicit goods/people- pose as a legitimate trader and modify you vessel with some secret cargo holds for the good stuff.
We can't cut out smuggling entirely; just make it as inconvenient and nonprofitable as possible.
Awesome video, Shad!
I disagree that the frontgate is oversized (5:53)
As you mentioned later as well, it is on a river. So every boat would have to go through there(since it blocks the whole thing). You'd want it to be at least 25 or 30 meters so even big sail boats could go through there without completly shredding their mast i would think. Preferably taller of course. They might have to be pulled through, but that shouldn't be too bad. The bridges and drawbridges on both sides are obviously not big enough to let any big ships though, so they have to fit through that gate.
In fact, it might not be a frontgate at all. Maybe the two bridge sides are the main entrances and the big entrance on the water is to collect tolls or something like that from ships.
Controlling access to the river may be thy primary purpose of the castle. If it is the castle may not have a moat to prevent circumventing the gates. The ground around the river also looks marshy, so it may not need a moat.
it could be the primary purpose. though that seems a little overkill to me. But there might be a vast network of rivers used for trading behind and infront of it that makes it worth it.
Don't forget that bigger sailships back then had stepped masts. Meaning that if the masts were too big they could just take the top parts down.
So even for the bigger sailships you would never need a gate as large as you mention. 10 meters should be plenty for anything small enough to sail on that river.
But yeah good point as to why that gate is so big.
Also, i just measured it, cause i was curious, and its just around 15 meters. So that would not be big enough to fit large ships. So i doubt it would be very good for controlling the river. People would need special boats just to pass through there.
But at least it would allow smaller sail boats to pass. maybe fishing ships and stuff.
jortz93z for reference 15 m might just about be enough to get the Bounty through.
So as a gate to a river that should be big enough.
To be fair, most of those buildings inside the castle look to be late 17th/early 18th century at the very oldest. So by which case that castle will likely be either no longer a defensive structure, or that more powerful yet compact cannons can be mounted instead, allowing room for more quarters.
You could also say that about the taller structures on the inside. If the castle has no longer a major defensive purpose then converting old defensive structures to become more palatial is entirely plausible. Many castles in the UK became stately homes in their own right.
Seeing as king Michael has now consolidated his empire, he is less bothered about defending his realm. He can buy them put or destroy them.
So now he's being a flash bastard.
The castle in those eras was often turned into a palace or mansion. Sometimes when the original use of a building becomes obsolete, the building gets remodelled and converted to other uses.
Huh. I'd never guessed that the Disney Castle was so lethal in it's design.
If they add more pink, it would be even more lethal.
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Disney just updated their intro for the 100 anniversary - you can see more details of the inside of the castle!
Goodness! I am extremely impressed on how accurate and beautiful your model is!!!
Elsa Frost I trust your understanding of authentic Disney because of your Nick. :D
Zebedee Summers indeed 😉😁
When I was little I always like to imagine the castle as a character. I always think of the tallest tower of the castle as the castles head.
Shad, you are an absolute madman. A fiery burning ball of awesomeness incarnate.
God bless you, you incredible man.
This is my attempt at rationalizing why the inner keep and towers are so high up in fantasy castles; the first reason might be that they have some sort of loft or aerie for flying fantasy creatures, be it griffons, dragons or so on. The higher elevation may actually be required for them to successfully take off while within the protection provided by the castle, if they tried to achieve flight from the ground level they might not have enough room and lift to get over the walls.
My other thought on this is that it could also be done for the sake of defense against flying attackers, especially if you were able to put things like ballista in those high towers and other battlements. It would also give any magic users at your disposal a better position of elevation to attack flying enemies.
In addition, and this was already mentioned in the video, but I feel like with the potential use of magic or materials not found in our world, such as mithral, they may be able to create larger structures and higher towers without as many limitations as we might have had throughout history, thus allowing them to create even more grandiose and excessive structures.
Finally, I've always been under the assumption that any sort of fortifications in a fantasy setting would have to account for the potential of giants and other enormous creatures being used as potential siege weapons so having excessively large and high walls might be a requirement depending on what kind of attacking force they can expect in their region. And on that same note, what if the besieged defenders are utilizing giants et al as intelligent mobile artillery? They would want to make sure that their walls could also protect their enormous allies so they could safely return projectiles back at the enemies outside the walls.
Just some thoughts I've been having as I watch through your castle videos. I've been learning so much and I've been trying to make sense of both reality and these fantasy conventions we love so much.
Shad! Once again another outstanding video about castles! Always enjoy your talks about architecture and defensive structures. Perhaps you could do a series where you discus the many different types of Europe's Medieval and Renascence castle designs and their unique architecture features. I have always been curious about how similar and different British, French, German, Italian, Spanish, and other styles are from each other. Comparing and contrasting similarities and differences, and seeing how one culture's changes influenced others and vice versa.
Embrace your Dreams and Protect your Honor! I Lord Zachael hail you Shadiversity as a Master class castle enthusiast! You sir are a King in my book.
"you sir are a king in my book" I agree. King Shad of house brooks, with the words "But what about DRAGONSS!!!" and the symbol of red sword and a battlement shield. Allies with the skallagrim clans and the old metatron empirem:)
The castle in Anaheim at Disneyland was built in 1243 by the Walddiskneans who settled there after migrating from the farming area of Naughtsbury, in lower Boisen.
Yes, another castle video. These are my favorite by far.
those buildings also men that the castle can have *a lot* of troops and resources inside, ready to be used if someone is foolish enough to attack the castle. Sure, a lot of food would be needed to arrive there fast, which might be why there are 2 lateral bridges, but once that's secured, they can deploy a massive number of troops for defensive and offensive purposes.
Also, any chance you can come and talk on the discord server, from time to time, and tag @everyone? 15-30 minutes per week would be more than enough.
Huh...really didn't expect the Disney castle to be so...well, relatively accurate. Fantasy castles usually only look really impressive but tend to have a lot of flaws as I've seen with the various vids here but ol' boy Disney the KING of fantasy castles when one thinks of them...seriously the only other castle people think of in fantasy as much as the Disney castle is Hogwarts now..is actually rather well designed all things considered. And given it's size it must take an army of servants to keep it running, along with the various guards and blacksmiths needed plus the families of all of them as well, so while the amount of inner buildings may be a bad thing defense wise they may be a necessary evil kinda thing...maybe a few less could be used but overall it's not too bad.
I really like that there is not one single castle video where you dont emphasize on the importance of crenulations and machiculations. really fun to watch everytime you get there.
I like to believe this castle is guarded by wizards who’d use the two central hightowers to shoot magical beams down on insurgents beyond the walls. Nobody can reach them, they can see everybody, and they can fire their magic with little obstruction at all sides.
Magic makes anything possible!
This video is so awesome that I'm rewatching it.
How about adding in wider custom roof top platforms on the small buildings? You can have the trebuchet on the roofs with elevation thus increasing range, as well as better line of sighting on the trajectory, thus making it easier for the trebuchet crew to readjust their aim.
Jesse Holt that's an interesting question... I will mention first off that I know very little about medieval construction.
That said, trebuchets are heavy. Their ammo stockpile is heavy. They have a lot of forward and backward pressure when firing that would either need bracing or casters to allow it to rock (I don't actually know if real ones used those, seems unlikely, but I've seen that modern recreations can fire further if allowed to roll back and forth during firing).
The point of all that... Could a medieval building support a trebuchet? It sounds like a fantastic idea, and I mean that in both meanings of the word. Are there historical examples of roof mounted trebuchets? It just seems like something that would potentially bring the building down from under it.
Ryan Gunn a vaulted ceiling can take those forces and then some, especially if supported by external regular or flying buttresses. Also, I would have kept the cone roofs of the turrets but made them collapsible to protect the engines from the elements.
It'll need to be a fairly substantial tower to take the load of a trebuchet.
Such towers would be very expensive to build.
Luckily you already have perfectly suited towers built into the outer wall.
(added bonus of being even higher- giving an even greater range over the enemy's machines)
Phoe Phoe then again, considdering the design of the free standing courtyard buildings, I bet those towers are packing 2-4lb breech loaded casemate guns.
The excitement, once he gets to the offensive capabilities of the walls, is so hilarious and perfect.
Exceptional video. Really appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Fascinating!
I never even noticed that the main entrance is by river. That is in all honestly such a genius design, Having a internal dock to unload/load trading goods and special fancy boats to pick up guests from a position on dry land. Makes the main entrance virtually impossible to assault. That right there is worth 100 points, pure genius.
I have been waiting for this video for so long. Can't wait for you to cover all the park's "castles". Another great video and another great model! Keep it up Shad!
It is rather interesting that castles like this one were theoretically possible to build in the real world with what most people would consider medieval technology, but resource issues would prevent it. Of course the resource issues faced in the real world for building massive castles like this tend to be addressed with magic in high fantasy settings at least. I have a copy of a D&D 3.5 Edition handbook that deals with rules related to players wanting to get castles for their characters, and the rules outright state that the base prices reflect the construction involving magic. The most common example being the use of spells that summon stone walls being used to provide the basic framework for the walls, followed by spells that allow stone to be molded like clay.
I'm really impressed by your sketchup castle
Thanks for playing the Brandenburg Concerto No. 4 throughout this video. Bach certainly added a great deal of class to this presentation.
Did you know that there are castles in France that are being sold for less than New York apartments
I can't believe that the price of a castle has gone up so much since 1365
That's not saying much.
Though, most of those castles are really mansions. That said, there's pretty awesome deals to be had, a habitable chateau can be bought for as little as $600,000!
i think this castles primary tactical purpose is to control access to the river, but it may also be an entire capital city by itself. hence the massive overkill size and entire towns worth of internal buildings with nothing surrounding it
As always, you've gone above and beyond with your presentation. And you can bet I'll be getting that app now that I know there's a free version and I can zoom around at my leisure. Keep up the awesome content much love to you and yours from Virginia.
I just got excited when you used a photo of Conisbrough Castle! I live within distance of seeing it everyday!