Screwing our Boat into the Ground (Installing a Helix Mooring Anchor) | Sailing Soulianis - Ep. 117

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2023
  • Where do you keep a boat that’s TWENTY-THREE feet wide?? After returning to Michigan with our new trimaran, this quickly became the biggest hurdle before getting her in the water. A doublewide slip would still be a tight fit, not to mention it would cost a fortune, and the waitlist for slips in our neck of the woods is measured in years.
    So the decision was pretty easy: install a mooring. But how do we ensure the mooring stays put and the boat does too? What type of anchor should we use? How much holding power do we need? And how do we install it all? Dive in with us and our to sort it all out!
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Комментарии • 153

  • @313barrygmail
    @313barrygmail Год назад +3

    Manistee Michigan here... It's cold Windy ... But it's nice to watch the videos warm in the house....

  • @brettsample1786
    @brettsample1786 Год назад +1

    Hi from another northern Michigander. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @prepper1013
    @prepper1013 Год назад +9

    Great video guys...Never seen a mooring video on the Tube before...Well done!

  • @dennybarlau8065
    @dennybarlau8065 Год назад +1

    I think you're the only utube show
    Doing the great Lakes!!!
    Which should really take off
    Your next journey has begun
    My hat is off to the both of you
    Since watching you way back when you looking to buy your first boat.
    As always Great Show
    Denny from Minnesota

  • @ES-xc6fk
    @ES-xc6fk Год назад +3

    50 mins south here! Was cool watching latest episode of Onboard Lifestyle and noticed a glimpse of you at the boat show get together this past fall.

  • @svechappe6075
    @svechappe6075 Год назад +13

    That area seems to be the generally recognized mooring zone. The harbormaster has moored his boat there the last few years (I could see it with the yellow sail cover in the background). If you are able to rig secure holding, it should work out fine. I would keep your daggerboards and rudders pulled up when you are away from the boat if it's not too much trouble. The occasional storm out of the northwest can send some substantial wave action into that corner of the lake and create a 2-3 foot surge into there. You'll want to have adequate draft under your hull if that happens.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +9

      We experienced it the first few nights with the boat in the water! I slept aboard the first night to see how well she rode it out. I was worried about the holding and the fetch and I'm happy to report it was WAY more comfortable onboard in a blow than I was expecting.

    • @daveamies5031
      @daveamies5031 Год назад

      With trimaran's that's the usual practice anyway, because you don't want stuff growing on your foils, cause speed 👍🏼

  • @MrPaulcm1
    @MrPaulcm1 Год назад +3

    I hope those moorings work out for you. Interesting to see the different types. It must also be great to have your boat on your own land. 😊

  • @OnTheFlipSide
    @OnTheFlipSide Год назад +2

    This s so interesting how this is done. Thank you for educating us. Crazy to think they take out massive blocks of cement accross ice, smart but super crazy.

  • @TheReader6
    @TheReader6 Год назад +4

    Great episode! Comments for the algorithm!

  • @debbiecollins1154
    @debbiecollins1154 Год назад +2

    Was glad to see you guys back. Very excited to see what is in store for the new boat.❤

  • @timwoods603
    @timwoods603 Год назад +1

    Cant wait till you start on your boat. Great video guys.

  • @mikementor6429
    @mikementor6429 Год назад

    I enjoy seeing your new videos!
    Great work on your mooring!

  • @philiplaing6904
    @philiplaing6904 Год назад +2

    Good to see you back. At home, boat in the yard and the mooring anchors in place. Well done!!

  • @ericvanvlandren8987
    @ericvanvlandren8987 Год назад +5

    That was one of the more bananas sailing RUclips videos I have ever seen. I say that with 1000% ❤️.
    I can’t wait for you guys to launch your new trimaran and go rocketing across the lake! 🤗⛵️👍

  • @svlamancha9877
    @svlamancha9877 Год назад +2

    That was interesting to watch. Good job with the underwater camera set up. My mooring is an old train wheel. 👍

  • @jimb6208
    @jimb6208 Год назад

    Strong work. I am sure it will hold just fine!

  • @brianhotte3882
    @brianhotte3882 Год назад

    Nice job. It is exciting riding along with you 3.😊

  • @danhall8948
    @danhall8948 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing this I learned alot

  • @JheregJAB
    @JheregJAB Год назад +1

    We have a 44' motor vessel which we regularly beach on a sandbar located in the Mississippi river. For that we have taken that style of helical anchor, heated it up and bent it to 90 degrees about 2/3 of the way up the pole. This provides the leverage necessary to put the anchor in and out without the extra pole. We use two of these, and from the video I'd guess they're the next size down from your smaller anchor. One anchor goes upstream to the beach, the other goes downstream to the beach, and the anchor rode comes to the aft of the vessel and holds it against the sand bar. The holding power of these anchors is insane and I'm not worried even a little about your situation here. In ~30 years we've only had one incident where an anchor pulled out, and it was in a storm that registered a brief but staggering 65-knot straight-line gust that caught the tall motor yacht directly on the beam; and even then I'm convinced we only pulled out because the area had been recently dredged and the sand wasn't as tightly packed as normal.

  • @mikemendes7598
    @mikemendes7598 Год назад +1

    I did a very similar thing with a small (1400lbs) monohull in a lake in MN. We were only there for 10 days, but I wanted something better than an anchor. I had 2 sand screws - same concept, but only about 3' long with a much smaller auger. I also used a secondary pair of dog leash screws, the kind you can get a Walmart that only go in about a foot. These I tied to the bigger screws hoping to keep them from winding out. The bottom was pretty soft sand, but I also needed a pretty big lever arm to wind them all the way in. I also used about 20' of chain on each and set them at an angle to each other so the load would be shared.
    I was in about 5' of water and did not have the cool underwater breather gizmo - very handy! We had a massive storm of over 60mph (and from the wrong direction) one night, and I was worried that it might all come undone. When I dove on it the next day, the sand screws were pulled at a angle, but had not come out. The tri has a LOT more windage area than a mono, but is relatively light for it's length. It's going to bob and yank on the screw, which is why I think a length of pretty heavy chain would help act as a shock absorber. Maybe that's in next week's video already!

  • @bobmiller1783
    @bobmiller1783 Год назад +1

    Auger anchors are great. Used them in the Florida keys for storms. Best anchor ever for shallows. Good workout too.

  • @johnmccormick175
    @johnmccormick175 Год назад

    Great video stay safe .

  • @cowsjohnson2306
    @cowsjohnson2306 Год назад +2

    It's good to see you folks back on the channel. Yes, having you vessel in your back yard is a big plus . I did the same and mine hauled 120 miles for the very same reasons you did . Yard fees, travel to and from lack of comfort of not having a shower, meals a rack to sleep in and yes a shop to work out of . Good choice .
    Looking forward to see your progress. Take care .
    Angus
    SV Violet Walters

  • @mrcu8176
    @mrcu8176 Год назад +3

    Great video !! We love you guys !! Keep the videos coming !!

  • @pagey78
    @pagey78 Год назад

    Thanks for the video, the variety of content is great, looking forward to you using and improving the new boat

  • @andrewpipitone1572
    @andrewpipitone1572 Год назад +2

    Brilliant I was thinking of these a few months ago for secure ways of locking your boat under water when your on land. I have 27 helico piles under my house because i live on long beach island in NY. Basically a an sand bar of long island, Its great to peeps thinking on the same path ;-)

  • @stevearcher2352
    @stevearcher2352 Год назад +1

    You made a good choice/ decision with the helical anchorage system, it utilized the shear capacity of the soil combined with the cone of soil above the flight, In SoCal we've used similar multi flight systems for masonry wall bracing for loads exceeding 10K. Was concerned with the manual auger procedure, as we usually utilize a hydraulic motor driven unit off a skid steer. Have seen commercial installations using a boom mounted pontoon boat with a diver assisting the Kelley Bar connection.
    Only comment on the installation would be the possible addition of cement/ sand rip rap bags around the anchor to resist and winter storm scouring of the bottom adjacent to anchors. As you're in fresh water, the bags are just placed around the anchor underwater and the bio-degradable paper dissolves leaving the mesh bag not filled with concrete. You can wait one season to determine/ confirm your storm exposure.
    Fair winds for next season of sailing.

  • @markbias1466
    @markbias1466 Год назад

    Absolutely amazing. I never knew how that was accomplished. You guys are great as always! Thanks...

  • @olronholleran1310
    @olronholleran1310 Год назад +1

    I miss youse guys, See you have a new boat. Looking forward to you next post. The rug rat is getting big, make a good sailer.
    Gramps

  • @erichaskell
    @erichaskell Год назад

    Progress and in the right direction.

  • @CorwynGC
    @CorwynGC Год назад +1

    For what 1 data point is worth: I have my 16 catamaran on a 4 foot helix mooring, in mud. It went in pretty easily, but no issues in 3 years with pulling out. Of course, not having that fancy rig for breathing, I had to wait for low tide and walk out and screw it in.

  • @westsail718
    @westsail718 Год назад

    That was a fun little video! I had the interesting experience of setting a couple of those in about 35’ of water. Took an 80cu/ft scuba tank from 3000 psi to 500 psi in 12 minutes, and there was two of us setting each screw 😂

  • @bobsails9750
    @bobsails9750 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @itsbriankearney
    @itsbriankearney Год назад

    The "what could go wrong" face at 7:16...we've all been there.

  • @DialedN_07
    @DialedN_07 Год назад

    Hard to say from the video how deep the water is right there, but having installed no less than 10 of these types of mooring anchors in the past I can tell you the best method. Build a wooden stand with 4x4 corners supported on the diagonals with 2x4s and a plywood top and a small hole in the middle of the plywood.
    Turn it upside down and it generally should float (if not, assist with Styrofoam or life jackets). When you get to your location, turn it right-side up and it will sink down to the lakebed. It's okay if your platform is slightly under the waters surface, just make sure when you stand on it, you are no more than knee deep in the water while on the platform.
    Drop your anchor down through the hole in the middle and have two people stand on top of the platform. Because your anchor doesn't reach the surface, you create one pipe with a "J" welded on the end of it. Insert this into the eye of your anchor and then attach your horizontal leverage pipe at the top. Walk in circles until the eye of your anchor is almost flush with the lakebed. The "J" pipe is best to be expandable, and the best way to do that is with threaded rod sections.
    Making this comment 50% through the video, so I'm sure you eventually got it done, but just in case you ever have to do it again, this is the way. Edit: I see you got it screwed in with little to no problems. If there were any clay or hard packed ground, it would have been impossible to screw it in while swimming or even with a dive belt on.
    Edit: Looking forward to the next video to see what your ground tackle setup looks like. I do have concerns with there being two anchors in the ground. My mooring, (even with the swivels, etc) gets fouled up sometimes on its own anchor eye. So with any other anchor eye in the ground within reach of the chain drag, it will 100% get fouled up on another eye protruding from the floor. I like the idea of a backup, but I wouldn't want my chain wrapping around a solid point in the bed and removing the ability of the chain to rise up and sink down while reducing potential shock loads (which is why you have extra chain in the first place).
    I'm certainly not a know it all, and I know you both have put a lot of thought into this, but I'm just mentioning some points purely as devils advocate.
    Thanks for the videos. I always look forward to them coming out.

  • @AJMRFIXIT
    @AJMRFIXIT Год назад +2

    i use a gas ouger to put them in for mobel homes every 5 feet. love your blog since day one .AJ East,Texas

  • @artsmith103
    @artsmith103 Год назад +2

    That went better being submerged than I expected. Congrats!
    You didn't even have to load your pockets with rocks.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +1

      Lol, would've helped though

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад +1

      You're the multihaul experts but look into that linkage between tiller and outboard. That will make getting on the mooring much easier. It's nice to be able to raise/lower main while weathervaning off the mooring.

  • @ChristofferETJ
    @ChristofferETJ Год назад +2

    Ground screws are also a good solution for house foundations.

  • @psychotimo
    @psychotimo Год назад +1

    interesting to see a bit of a different, yet still sailing related vid :P haven't seen a lot of channels put in a mooring anchor yet xP
    if you ever need to do this again (or do any other work under water with your small compressor) I would suggest taking a few KGs of diving lead. Even a bit of weight is already going to make it tons easier to stay under water, which is going to mean less exertion needed to stay stable, meaning more stable breathing, which means that you'll get a lot more dive time on a battery. (as well as just being a bit more comfortable underwater xP)

  • @jjbova
    @jjbova Год назад

    Hi from Petoskey! Love following you guys! We have been following for years! Keep up the good work. If you ever see RedSky out there in Lake Michigan, wave to us! :)

  • @jerryf609
    @jerryf609 Год назад +1

    I sail Lake Michigan out of Muskegon. Will be following you.
    My nephew is near Suttons Bay with a house on the bay. He wants to get a small sailboat and might establish a mooring at his home. I'll share your vid with him.

  • @lyfandeth
    @lyfandeth Год назад

    One local YC has a deal with a nearby commuter railroad. When they change the wheels and axle, which are all one piece, the YC gets the axle set for scrap value. The cut off one wheel, or put a ring on it, and drop the other wheel into the mud, just like one damn heavy mushroom anchor. No failures after hundreds of the have been used. Just damned heavy to lift! And once they settle in, they don't pull out.

  • @gregeconomeier1476
    @gregeconomeier1476 Год назад

    You could benefit from adding 100' feet of heavy chain between the anchor and the boat's anchor rope. This will provide additional resistance and act as a shock absorber for heavy beating seas. This would not eliminate the need to place a shock absorber at the boat.
    You also chose anchor sizing above the "recommended" size. This is smart. Your area of the world can get some nasty storms.
    BTW, I didn't think you had a chance screwing the mechanism in by hand. You must be a beast. Haha.
    Good job.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +1

      100’ of chain would have us swinging into the shallows and into other boats. With moorings the working scope is expected to be between 2.5-3x the depth of the water.

  • @georgesampson4714
    @georgesampson4714 Год назад +2

    And for sure I thought you would get 6" in and hit bedrock. At least that is how it would have went for me.
    I hope this is not too far away from your property so that when the first storm rolls in you can quickly get there and keep an eye on things.

  • @galendenney4849
    @galendenney4849 Год назад +9

    I can't be the only one being like "Wait, I can just drop my own mooring somewhere?!"

    • @CorwynGC
      @CorwynGC Год назад +1

      No, you probably can't. It is usually controlled by your local authorities. Often *jealously* controlled. Make some new friends.

  • @jeremyyaple8498
    @jeremyyaple8498 Год назад +1

    I swear I saw you guys getting on Interstate 81 Southbound in Tully NY last Wednesday. Little podunk town. 15 miles south of Syracuse NY. Seemed a weird spot for you to be. Spitting image of Chip and your new boat if not.

  • @navarredr
    @navarredr Год назад

    Another glorious video! Stellar production quality, as usual. :) ...So, are you 'allowed' to just put up a mooring ball anywhere? Just that lake or in most bodies of water? ***ponders dropping my own mooring ball in San Diego bay ***

  • @gardnercongdon9104
    @gardnercongdon9104 Год назад

    I set a helical mooring off Camano Island in 20' of water, all on breath holds. Screwed 5' into the bottom it only took about 5-6 dives. Key is to stand on the bottom with a long lever instead of trying to swim the lever around. There is something really bizarre about standing on the bottom screwing in a giant corkscrew.

  • @allmomomosthomebus3895
    @allmomomosthomebus3895 Год назад +1

    Was there any kind of permitting required there for adding a new mooring? Glad it turned out well for you guys. Interesting video.

  • @xm15ar
    @xm15ar Год назад

    I used one of those in my backyard for my dog. It took him roughly 15 minutes to tear it out of the ground. My dog is a beagle. Good luck.

  • @rudbeckia885
    @rudbeckia885 Год назад +2

    I couldn't agree more....I'm done with boat yards. I bought a precision 21,which I can trailer w/ my Toyota Tacoma.
    Presently sailing the Everglades and Fla keys.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад

      I have a San Juan 21 which is 1,300 lb, 300 lb swing keel version of yours. Upgraded to Macgregor 26S water ballast that hope to use for sailing snowbird. I call it seasonal coastal cruiser.
      Please occasionally share how you're getting on on 21'. How long between reprovisioning? Do you ever do it without the trailer? What is shore access like?

    • @rudbeckia885
      @rudbeckia885 Год назад +1

      @@artsmith103 I'm in the fla keys now ....very crowded. But the everglades are wide open. Just make sure you have proper mosquito netting.

  • @jackpatteeuw9244
    @jackpatteeuw9244 Год назад

    Remove the small screw anchor. Get a large(?) concrete anchor block and connect it with about 25' of chain ahead (into the prevailing wind). Off the drop and in the silt is fine. Connect your mooting ball here. Strong waves will have to lift the weight before pulling on the screw anchor.

  • @sundancer3700
    @sundancer3700 Год назад +5

    Wondered what lake you ended up on and this video gave it away by the background. This lake as you probably know gets huge waves when the storms roll in, my sisters sea wall made up of 2000# slabs of stone got tossed like little toys, she is on the north side of the SP. Good luck.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +3

      Yea it can get pretty nasty! We were quite worried initially with the holding strength after getting the anchors in the ground. But as you'll see in the next video, our fears were quickly dashed :)

    • @johnbruen1651
      @johnbruen1651 Год назад

      @@SailingSoulianis I was up there in early July, same weekend as the poker run. Had a great time sailing my Flying Scot, but the waves in that area of the lake were relentless.

  • @MrAmusgrove
    @MrAmusgrove Год назад

    Nice music
    A

  • @RamezH413
    @RamezH413 Год назад

    Watching your video. I followed you guys through the first boat and excited to see what you do with this one! We are in Chicago, so it's fun to see what you're doing in Michigan.
    I love that you have a free mooring. I'm curious what the laws are around installing a mooring in lake Michigan. Are you permitted to do this wherever you like or is this somehow a designated area? If so, why is it not part of a harbor?

  • @danhall8948
    @danhall8948 Год назад

    Just a silly thought could you tamp the ground around the anchor.? Maybe solid the hold

  • @RebelCowboysRVs
    @RebelCowboysRVs Год назад

    You could extend that with a piece of pipe with a hole and a bolt in it on each end. That would let you sink it as far as you need to hit solid ground. Pipe could also be used the same way to be able to put it in the ground from the boat, standing on the boat twisting the pipe sticking out of the water. At that point you could also borrow someones gas engine handheld post hole auger an shoot the thing in the ground in seconds. I would let you barrow mine but its a bit far of a drive. lol

  • @jeanbrosset2898
    @jeanbrosset2898 Год назад

    Thanks a lot for this hard underwater work testimony. Are there any regulations to comply with to set up such a mooring? Will you have to pay something to use it? Here in France things are much more complicated ...

  • @fxpthl
    @fxpthl Год назад +1

    So very clever using that screw in mooring anchor! Can we assume this will only be used during the “summer season” when you will be sailing the most?

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад

      The lake freezes over solid. So no mooring needed in the winter. Our boat won’t be in the water and if it is it wouldn’t be going anywhere anyway. 😂

  • @susannash7710
    @susannash7710 Год назад +2

    What lake are you in? I hope if you show up to St.Ignace, we can meet up! We are there all season! Sailing vessel Kanani!! (Susan and Theo)

  • @chiefenumclaw7960
    @chiefenumclaw7960 Год назад

    Great job Fam! Which of the Great Lakes are you planning for this summer?

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +2

      We will be out on Lake Michigan, a trip to the North Channel may also be in the cards.

    • @chiefenumclaw7960
      @chiefenumclaw7960 Год назад +2

      @@SailingSoulianis Thanks! This video series is INCREDIBLY educational.

  • @JamesHigham
    @JamesHigham Год назад

    Slowly coming together, guys. Mooring seems to be settling. Onto the next thing.

  • @SamuelKTennis
    @SamuelKTennis Год назад

    I guess there are no current in a lake but it is possible that a trimaran may track in the wind differently than a monohull

  • @robertcarlclayton7724
    @robertcarlclayton7724 Год назад

    Moral to this story. Don't buy fixers. Buy ready to go.

  • @shawnee0011
    @shawnee0011 Год назад

    We are in Traverse City, mi and grew up sailing around Charlevoix, what area are you in Michigan, maybe we will bump into you.

  • @Horsewomann
    @Horsewomann Год назад

    I have a nice blue/white mooring buoy that I picked up a few years ago, but I don't really have any use for it, and it's just been sitting in my pole barn. I'd be happy to give it to you if it's something you could use. I'm just a bit south of you, near the infamous town of South Haven, but a drive up north sounds like a pleasant day to me. Just let me know if you could use it!

  • @donrumph1
    @donrumph1 Год назад

    Why are you not using your fins when screwing in the achors?

  • @rainfinger
    @rainfinger Год назад

    No cameo for Renata?

  • @TimmyCramer
    @TimmyCramer Год назад

    You two are both looking fit and trim. Your wife especially per she recently had your baby. Been watching you guys since San Diego. Keep having fun! Timmy C Arizona

  • @wildcat1973
    @wildcat1973 Год назад

    Lake Charlevoix, Mi (East Jordan)?

  • @crowdfundcrew
    @crowdfundcrew Год назад +2

    Did you try to backdown on that mooring with the boat you had to see how the mooring anchor held?

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +4

      While we were leary about the holding strength immediately after installing them, we had a pretty significant weather system move through the day we got the boat on the mooring that put an end to our wondering about their effectiveness. We'll share this in an upcoming episode.

  • @sailingeden9866
    @sailingeden9866 Год назад

    I am surprised that you were not wearing dive fins. Could you weld the short one to the end of the long one?

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад

      You’ll see in an upcoming episode but we shackled them together with a length of chain.

  • @MichaelrennieG
    @MichaelrennieG Год назад +4

    I think a weight belt would help to keep you down in the water...

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +1

      YUP.

    • @christip20
      @christip20 Год назад

      I was watching that too! All that neoprene is like wearing a life jacket, you just pop back up!

  • @johnkruer7557
    @johnkruer7557 Год назад +1

    Why not an extension on the end of the shank and work above the water? Good work getting them in.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад

      We thought of it, but getting enough leverage in a floating boat to spin it from the surface seemed pretty difficult. We had the Nemo dive compressor, and it seemed like the best choice for us. It was kind of fun being down there working below the surface as well.

    • @johnkruer7557
      @johnkruer7557 Год назад

      @@SailingSoulianis Agree that any time under the water is great.

    • @3scraftingsllc785
      @3scraftingsllc785 Год назад

      @@SailingSoulianis An impact driver works good to alleviate much of the reaction torque that would be required from a boat on the water. Search eBay for anchor adapters and you might find those coupled to an impact driver to be more convenient. Unfortunately it would reduce the time in the water so that could be a bummer...

  • @thomasthornton5737
    @thomasthornton5737 Год назад

    😄👍👍👍❤

  • @garyhardee2720
    @garyhardee2720 Год назад +1

    1st good wind storm and that boat is on the beach. Hook the powerboat up to your mooring eye and pull. Better to find out now.

  • @trevorward9680
    @trevorward9680 Год назад

    Can you just drop a mooring in a lake where you like or do you need a permit or something?

  • @1975427bronco
    @1975427bronco Год назад

    What town are you in

  • @gordonbennet1094
    @gordonbennet1094 Год назад

    I would've been tempted to cast a big heavy concrete block, with maybe six pcs of 12'' long stainless steel 'angle-iron' sticking out of it - or somethng similar - and carry it out hanging between yr hulls, & drop it. Last time I made a mooring in mud, I dropped a big car engine down. It never moved.

  • @geniexmay562
    @geniexmay562 Год назад

    Is this a common method in that area??

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +2

      It’s not super common no. But this is how many mooring fields are anchored. Usually with much larger gear. This is a DIY alternative. We installed the largest DIY helix anchor available. It suits our needs but others with larger boats would need some sort of drilling rig on the surface.

  • @KerryBBalcom
    @KerryBBalcom Год назад +2

    Do you need special permits or permission to put in a moring ball

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +2

      We called every agency we could find, talked to the harbor master, the city and locals. Fortunately for us, this particular location is currently sort-of self policing. It may not always be the case. But we're keeping our fingers crossed that everyone continues to use common sense and nobody ruins a good thing.

    • @Natter20002
      @Natter20002 Год назад

      @@SailingSoulianisthat’s interesting. I’m on the far western edge of Lake Superior in a marina in the Duluth /Superior area. We have two “special anchorage “ areas on the charts. Wonder if I could pop a mooring in there. Could be interesting to find out.

    • @johnbruen1651
      @johnbruen1651 Год назад

      @@Natter20002 If it's a designated anchoring area, chances are you won't be allowed to put in a mooring rig. I've yet to figure out the proper process for obtaining permission for a great lakes mooring.

    • @Natter20002
      @Natter20002 Год назад

      @@johnbruen1651 Right. I really have no need for one but its an interesting topic.

  • @mattthompson8329
    @mattthompson8329 Год назад

    Why are you not wearing fins? So much more leverage...

    • @CorwynGC
      @CorwynGC Год назад

      Not than standing on the lakebed.

    • @mattthompson8329
      @mattthompson8329 Год назад

      @@CorwynGC Not standing... flopping around

  • @rickkwitkoski1976
    @rickkwitkoski1976 Год назад

    And you aren't wearing fins... WHY?

    • @CorwynGC
      @CorwynGC Год назад

      Needs firm contact with the bottom.

  • @mschmitz57
    @mschmitz57 Год назад

    Sorry, Concrete isn't 30% water. The weight of concrete in water is reduced by the weight of the water it displaces.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад

      Concrete is 150 lbs/ft^3. Water is 62 lbs/ft^3. So actually concrete loses 41% of its weight. Kirk was being a little too conservative.
      I just mixed 2,000 lbs so I'm a small expert!

  • @worldtraveler84
    @worldtraveler84 Год назад

    Should this aspect of boating be that hard??? 🤔

  • @tchezick
    @tchezick Год назад

    The worst part of Sailing Soulianis? Being caught up so you can't binge-watch 10 episodes a night. First world problems!

  • @MarkPieczonka
    @MarkPieczonka 11 месяцев назад

    Omg. So many mistakes. Shorter screw should have been in shallower water up from primary. Should have got longer screws. Should have been a foot apart with a metal bar shackled to both screws so prevents either crew from unturning. Then a swivel on the metal bar so morning line doesn't twist. Ugh!

  • @gearhed78
    @gearhed78 Год назад

    This is the classic example of overthinking something. Totally overthinking every aspect. I did like the video though.

  • @dennis2275
    @dennis2275 Год назад

    Who controls the mooring field; you just can't drop a permanent mooring willy nilly any place?

  • @whileysea
    @whileysea Год назад

    Uh, I would never trust such new Methods, especially on such ground. Hope really you can sleep at night.

  • @ellenorbovay5226
    @ellenorbovay5226 Год назад

    I don't think that screw is going to work, the sand loses most of its weight beneath the water. Imagine a cylinder of sand on top of the screw, it would be extremely heavy on land, but under water it may weigh like 1/3 or less, so the boat can pull it out. I would swim around there and find some old chunk of steel, maybe an old piece of equipment, and then loop a cable around that. Do a test on your screw before trusting it with your boat, it probably won't work.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +3

      It’s not the weight of the sand that holds it in. It’s the suction on the disc and the friction of trying to pull it out in shear against all the other sand. Think of a tent stake. They don’t have a disk at the bottom and even they are damn near impossible to pull out sometimes and they are only 6” long!

    • @ellenorbovay5226
      @ellenorbovay5226 Год назад

      @@SailingSoulianis OK, I see! That sounds better.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад +1

      @@SailingSoulianis The tent stake is nearly exactly a piling used for construction in reclaimed land. There's a lot of engineering calculations leading up to it but basically keep hitting the piling with the pile driver until it doesn't move for 3 successive hits. All friction, no disk at the bottom.

  • @englishrose1122
    @englishrose1122 Год назад

    Cannot see this is safe for a family with small children. I’ve had two kids so have experience. Either get a proper comfortable/ safe boat or wait till your kids are grown up. Youre tying to do this on a cheap budget at the
    Expense of safety. It’s obvious you have money from many avenues so why be so tight, at the expense of safety? Children are precious, money is worthless in comparison.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад +5

      You have kids, but do you have boating experience? Nothing inappropriate about this in the boating world.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +17

      "Your Farrier trimaran is designed and built as a high performance family cruising yacht, which when used as intended, with its enormous stability and unsinkability, is one of the safest, most comfortable, and fastest sailboats afloat."
      The quote above is the very first line in the sailing manual provided by Farrier Marine when purchasing a set of plans. These boats have been successfully cruising around with families and little children onboard for more than 40 years. Additionally what is considered safe for one person may not be for another. Safety is not an objectively derived concept, it depends on individual risk tolerance, experience and skill. I would never consider living in a house on a busy road with small children, but millions of families do. I'd never take my kids horse-back riding on my own, or let them work on or around farm animals or large farm equipment, because I know nothing of horses, steer, or tractors at the moment but plenty of families and kids do.
      As for your comments about having money... you've mis-judged our position, but our choice of trimaran vs some other boat you may consider "safer" had nothing to do with money. It was because for us it is the perfect boat. We're hoping that our video series will help shift the narrative around trimarans for those with similar objectives by illuminating the many benefits a trailerable trimaran offers.

    • @jerrymiller276
      @jerrymiller276 Год назад +4

      @@SailingSoulianis Naysayers always say nay, and they usually have some sort of reasonable sounding reasons that just don't bear close scrutiny.

    • @williamdykes2750
      @williamdykes2750 Год назад +3

      @@SailingSoulianis The perfect boat FOR NOW. In a few years your boating lifestyle may morph into something else again. Hopefully, I'll be around for the sail. I like you guys.

    • @yakncast7530
      @yakncast7530 Год назад +1

      @@jerrymiller276 Totally agree. 👍🏼

  • @andrewripple6630
    @andrewripple6630 Год назад

    What happend to your sailing dream ? You both never went anywhere and now sell your boat to live in Michigan ? Or mabey the wife made the decision for you because it's familly time now but at the same time you want that income so sail 3 months out of the year ? To me as a viewer this started with promise and bang no more sailing around the ocean going through the lock's or at least the Caribbean ! After 2 years it became boring Soulianis now this show is nothing soulianis...

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Год назад +4

      There are a lot of different sailing lifestyles. You don't sound like a boat owner so open up your mind to their developing plan. Potentially 5 months in the Great Lakes, 4 months in FL/Bahamas. That still leaves Charter and other trailer possibilities. Spending your whole life at 6 knots is not that charming. Visas, Customs, currency, foreign repairs, healthcare, it's not all so charming. A beach is a beach, then add some sundowners and friends. Plenty not so far from home and they have explained their 3 phases many times. This is phase 2, you're anxious for phase 3.
      You can do everything they're doing now with $5-10K monohaul if you're interested. Learn from them what you could do in your 1,000-1,500 mile radius (I guess it would really be diameter ;-)

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +6

      It seems like a lot of viewers have the idea that the goal of every sailing channel is to drop everything and sail the world. This was never an immediate goal for us, wasn’t even something we thought we’d do in the first probably 5 or even 10 years of owning a boat. Have a look at Ep 97 ( ruclips.net/video/NMDR6ahG0sk/видео.html ) starting at 5:55. If you only want to see around the world sailing, that’s cool, there are plenty of other channels out there! But if you’re interested in seeing a family work on a trimaran to make it their own, and sail the gorgeous Great Lakes and all over the North American continent, stick around ;)

    • @dt-paz516
      @dt-paz516 Год назад +1

      I bet Andy has one hell of a RBF!

    • @kevinfisher1345
      @kevinfisher1345 Год назад +2

      Dreams change, plans change. Life happens and you adjust your dreams and plans all the time. Even goals can change. Besides as they stated, they made their intentions known a long time ago that it would not likely include any far away sailing or world sailing for a very long time if ever. This channel (and their life) has never been about sailing the world. Their dream was to buy a sailboat and their goal was to sail. That goal and dream has not changed. And they wanted to sail while still working so they could afford to do so. They originally were looking at multi-hulls especially some performance Tri's from the very beginning until they changed and got a mono hull. So that changed originally, and now it appears that has changed back. Yet the entire time was to have some kind of sailboat and to be able to sail.

    • @AQ.Gimpalong
      @AQ.Gimpalong Год назад +1

      This is literally free content, my guy. No one is forcing you to watch. Yikes.

  • @puretrouble1603
    @puretrouble1603 Год назад

    Why is this even called a sailing channel anymore???? It is pretty much a hobby for them!!!

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Год назад +3

      If by hobby you mean an activity we enjoy doing and don’t make a living wage from, then you’re spot on! We’ve never approached our sailing life as a business. Who says you can’t document a hobby anyway? 🤷 That’s what RUclips is for.

    • @blegi1245
      @blegi1245 Год назад

      What did you expect? Some sort of religious cult?

  • @cedricfloyd8662
    @cedricfloyd8662 Год назад

    Promo_SM 🍀