Are you sure? Cumber Defeated Vegito Blue Kaioken and SSJ4 Vegito , Vegito also didn’t Beat Broly instead Vegito blue had to sacrifice himself, any other fight on top of my head is probably Vegito Blue vs Demgira and guess what he literally does defuse as always, Gogeta on the other hand Beat Universal Hearts, Goku Black SSJR3, Dark Omega Shenron and Broly Dark Limit Breaker SSJ4 and only lost to Fu who defused the Two Gogetas but that’s about it no matter how u look at Gogeta has many more W’s in canon and not canon
Vegito took a massive L to the first villain in Heroes you don't wanna go there lmao. Both blue and monkey lost to Cumber so that's 2 Ls for Vegito meanwhile Gogeta got 2 major Ws lmao
@@goldenshadow8683right so wrong you are, u gonna take the outdated statement from elder Kai that didn’t know about the potara time limit or power limit? And Yes Vegito has a Power Limit in Z Kakraot Super Saiyan Vegito full power ended up defusing in 15 minutes while Gogeta can start in base use SSJ and Blue and even stick around for the aftermath of the fight unlike Vegito, no matter how you put it Gogeta had become stronger a while ago even tho the fusions were proven to be equal the retcons and statements has made Vegito useless entirely.
Funny part is people say Vegito is never serious but gogeta literally trolled and held back the beginning of the broly fight.. he just didn’t get consequences from it And Vegito isn’t not serious, he literally tried to kill zamasu but zamasu was immortal
THIS BRO, and another thing the only reason you can even say gogeta "gets the job done" is because he's a movie character and movies have limited run time if dragon ball fans actually had a brain and had common sense they would know that its not even fair to compare one from a movie to the actual series so even further proof fusion war just is dumb
People seem to forget that Vegetto LITERALLY BEAT BOOHAN IN HIS FIRST APPEARANCE. They fought, Vegetto kicked his ass almost without lifting a finger, and then he outsmarted him to get absorbed to save Piccolo and the boys. He almost definitely would’ve just wiped Boo off the face of the Earth once he got out if he didn’t defuse.
Me personally, i like gogeta more.HOWEVER i think vegito is really cool too. us as dragon ball fans need to stop arguing, like both without being at each other's neck about it and chill.This is me two days later but wow 16 likes is the most likes I've ever had on a comment (even though I don't comment that much) thanks to everyone who liked.
The thing with Zamasu is that there is no winning against zamasu. Gogeta either would have same outcome or even worse than vegito against zamasu. Zamasu will ultimately come back as infinite zamasu, only zeno can fully erase him
And before anybody says "Soul punisher" would cleanse him No,if soul punisher if it works as a fandom think it is as it destroys evil energy then Trunks Spirit Bomb Sword would have done the job and cleansed all evil from Zamasu instead of his particles corrupting the whole timeline. If Hakai doesn't work against immortality then I doubt Soul punisher would do any different. The only outcome I see them winning in this saga is Goku doesn't forgot the seal for Mafuba or Learn how to make one in the past
People forget that at future trunks saga both goku and vegeta haven't mastered ssb so vegito was draining a lot of ki in that fight which led him to defuse while at the time of broly movie goku and vegeta have mastered ssb so gogeta was easly able to fight in full power that the difference otherwise vegito better
No they didn’t master it. The difference between the potara and the fusion dance is that if you used so much ki you’ll automatically defuse if the potara can’t handle it that’s exactly what goku said in the future trunks saga, as for the fusion dance yeah it has a shorter time limit than the potara but the difference is that, you can use as much ki as you want it will not force you to defuse if you used a lot of ki unlike the potara fusion.
@@AZIZ_50598 you're wrong. Gogeta would've defused if he didn't hurry things up when he was in blue due to the fusion multiplier + blue multiplier which probably wouldn't hold it. He knew Broly would rampage if he defused so he tried to kill Broly.
@@SHALDAGOATHe wouldn't have defused Gogeta used multiple stardust breakers, a whole soul punisher, metoer explosion, full power kamehamea, and was spamming ki blasts likr crazy and still didn't defuse. Gogeta simply went for the kill because Broly is extremely quick to adapt and didn't want him to power up even more
5:27 this is also incorrect, as stated he is immortal, and all he would do afterwards is regenerate. In the manga you could say that vegito can eviscerate him, but in the anime they were much closer power wise. Even gowasu said that his power was rising with every second passing. You may look at vegitos reactions, smaller battle damage, etc.
Ngl you didn’t cook with the zamasu section. What you should’ve said was that it was a loose/loose situation. Even if vegito finished off fused zamasu he would have just created infinite zamasu and this also applies to the manga. Vegito was screwed in that situation no matter what
Difference with the Gogeta vs Broly fight and the Vegito vs Zamasu fight is that in the broly movie even if Broly does get away the threat was still taken care of and neutralized by gogeta as in his final move would've actually killed him whereas Vegito defusing left Zamasu completely fine
Okay but the thing about zamasu loss and gogeta “loss” is that Broly was COOKED whereas Zamasu was nowhere near finished. Using a vague statement from Vegito (in an anime where characters are always yelling taunts) isn’t proof it would’ve finished off Zamasu.
Cuz zamasu was immortal fused zamas was immortal so they could’ve never killed him due to his immortal body but for majority of the fight he got his ass handed to him he could just keep coming back thanks to immortality
I agree with the dying by the fusion is a bit much, especially when adding Super Dragonball Heroes into this argument. Im a Gogeta fan myself but I cant say Vegito sucks and only has Ls. Vegito fought well and used his wits a lot in battle. Gogeta had more chances to go for all out brute force. One thing is for sure, fusions need more manga/screen time.
Indeed, imagine a movie dedicated to Gogeta where he fights an enemy that gives him a good fight and wins. Same for Vegito, I'd love to see a dedicated movie for Vegito where, like I said before, for Gogeta, fights an enemy and gets a good fight and wins
Vegito literally powered up straight away and negged diffed him in manga. + Gogeta would've defused too which is why he tried to go blue at the end and immediately wanted to kill Broly because he'd defuse. Blue multiplier + Fusion dance multiplier is wayy too much
My brother in christ he literally dodged a few attacks and smiled at broly, aside from that he was kicking his ass, broly landed no hits that did any damage, gogeta hit him with moves that did damage, enough to force broly into legendary super saiyan, and oh god three hits, whatever will gogeta do? Powers up and continues to beat his ass. Also as far as gogeta is concerned that was brolys limit in terms of huge power boosts, how was anyone meant to predict him going into lgss
To be fair he was waiting for the karma ball to remove the built up negative energy and he did reduce omega back to syn so he still at least got something done
It’s a dumb argument because given the scenarios it makes sense why Vegito didn’t get the job done however I will say this Vegito fans kinda deserve it they spent years boasting about how he’s the better fusion and now that Gogeta is now canon and his fusion was retconned to equal vegitos instead of being inferior like the past it’s lowkey their time to flex their favorite fusion Vegito fans had their time now it’s time for Gogeta fans to get active
then there's no way Gogeta wins since at best you will hear sources saying they are equal, while others says potara is stronger, but NEVER you will hear an official source saying Gogeta is stronger.
For the First fight against buu I agree But not necessarily in the second In the second one I can't understand why you think gogeta's situation is in any way comparable to vegito's The reason why gogeta didn't win was that his opponent escaped but at the end he still got what he wanted He neutralized broly So that still counts as a win The reason why vegito lost is because he drained his energy and ultimately his impressive performance against zamasu was pointless If it wasn't for Zeno it would have been over
Gogeta’s fights: *Vs Janemba: “I beat my little brother in a fighting game” *Vs Broly: “I beat my little brother in a fighting game” *Vs Omega: “I was beating my little brother in a fighting game but dicked around too much and accidentally lost when the round timer ran out.” Vegito’s fights: *Vs Buuhan: “I was playing my little brother in a fighting game, but he stole some of my fav toys, so I had to mindgames my way to getting my stuff back before beating his ass.” *Vs Zamasu: “I was playing my twin brother in a fighting game, but he had cheat codes on so his character was nigh-unkillable; I almost won regardless but the round timer ran out.” All Gogeta does is beat foes who never stood a chance at winning in the first place. Vegito’s fights are 1. A hostage situation requiring psychological warfare to avoid filicide and 2. A fight against a fellow Potara fusion who is unkillable against anything less than Zeno. The difference in challenge-level here speaks volumes. Lemme know when Gogeta takes on a fellow Metamoran fusion empowered by an omnipotent dragon god and we’ll talk.
@@ultimateblackmenace so? Gogeta was also stronger. Vegito blue is future trunks arc. Pre. T.O.P. gogeta is broly movie. Post T.O.P. in the T.O.P they became a shit load more powerful. If they just randomly had potaras vegito would've done the same if not better job then gogeta
@@raiden8991Let's relax, Vegito looks more of an actual fusion between Goku and Vegeta (having key items of both characters like Vegeta's gloves and boots while also having Goku's clothes with the top referencing Vegeta's blue shirt and the bottom having Goku's orange from his outfit) while Gogeta looks like a completely different entity to them (having no key items from both).
@@erickmontes2149 not only the clothes, he overall looks just like ssj 2 Goku with less bangs. Gogeta in terms of behavior has Goku's righteousness and Vegeta's ruthlessness and some cockyness of both Goku and Vegeta and Unlike Vegito, Gogeta mostly talks with his fists.
@@raiden8991 Funny how you talk about Vegito's looks and not Gogeta. Instead, you talk about Gogeta's behavior being more 'righteous' or whatever. Want to know the truth? If you compared Vegito to Ssj2 Goku but with fewer bangs, then what does that make Gogeta? SSJ2 Goku with even fewer bangs? Just stop. They're both great fusions, and both do things uniquely to one another.
@@erickmontes2149 goku and vegeta doing potara fusion touching boners is gay gogeta actually got swag and id dance any day than to fuse like that with another man.
not just fusion war but honestly just anything dragon ball fans argue about is stupid swear they will find anything to argue about and it will be over the most the silliest thing too (sure there are some fair arguments here and there but majority of them are just goofy)😭
Giving a like and subscribe and going to share it to big big discord servers so gogeta fans realise what they are doing wrong and while making yiu famous.
Respect you for respecting Vegito. But just to give some clarification. Multiple guidebooks have stated Potara > Fusion Dance. There is one saying Gogeta was stronger but that got retconned in the same issue it was stated. The only other source is from v jump and claims they are equal. But this contradicts official guidebooks. Doesn’t inherently have anything to do with power. And comes from a less reliable source than the guidebooks. So I don’t count it. I go off the official guides that say Potara > Fusion Dance. Vegito is more powerful but you can still think Gogeta is cooler. You have a right to your opinion.
@@shadowsansvii8715the dbs Broly movie scans everyone practically talked about saying both fusions are equal yet it seems far from it, dbz Kakraot the game is the closest we have to the manga and in it super saiyan Vegito defuses in 15 minutes for using too much power and shin just says the potara does indeed have a power limit which explains why Vegito defuses so often. While Gogeta doesn’t have this problem as much practically making potara seem unstable so Gogeta I say is stronger until they retcon this all the stats go in his favour.
@@gogetathestrongestfusionIn the movie goku says “but we don’t have the potara’s right now so we need to do it medamorian way.” That shows potara is better and why is the zamasu ark not fuse into gogeta instead? Why? Because he knows vegito better. You may say “because potara is a safer option or that they may mess up the dance” but no.
The reason people count Broly unlike Zamasu is cuz Cheelai interfered with the fight. If Gogeta wanted to he could go kill Broly by Instant Transmission. Vegito couldn't do anything against Zamasu being immortal. Hell people even argue Gogeta does better against Buu and Zamasu thanks to Soul Punisher
Vegito may have 0 real wins, but he fought almost unkillable enemies, aint no one beating zamasu or buuhan (more when the plan was get absorbed to free everyone)
I like both, but vegito indeed didnt win because of defuse but gogeta win against broly, if you fight a guy in a game you dominated hard and literally in the middle of ultimate, but you disconnected, technically you lose (even tho its not your fault), but if the opponent disconnected you win , cause they running away/forfeit the fight, vegito having 0 win is wrong but calling gogeta didnt win againt broly is also wrong
People confuse HAVING THE ABILITY TO EASILY WIN IF BUT HAVING OTHER FACTORS you have to worry about with BEING FRAUDULENT AND ACTUALLY WEAK vegito was always strong enough to win his battles its just 1 killing buuhan wasn't his main he because his family was in him and 2 zamasu was immortal 🤦♂️ if he wasn't he would have clearly died im sure
Both toei and toyotaro adapt toriyama's outlines in their own way, theres no "true" canon, since both can be considered as canon, since the author did not make a manga, only the story, and the 2 who work w him adapted it (toei and toyotaro), so both are canon.
A bigger key about the Zamasu fight was that it was Zamasu's immortality that kept him from just dying. Gogeta wouldn't just magically kill what Vegito couldn't, because the circumstances would have been the same. Also, no. The fight wouldn't have ended if Vegito didn't defuse. At least in the anime. The manga still had similarities mind you with the whole "infinite Zamasu" thing. But Zamasu was immortal. Even if you managed to kill his physical body, he'd have some way of coming back. In the anime, he lost his entire physical form, but his essence was still capable of fighting. So, in both scenarios of either Vegito or Gogeta, both would have ultimately not finished the fight before defusing, leaving it to have the result that only Zeno could have finished Zamasu entirely, immortal or not.
Technically vegito didnt get wins since buuhan had friends and family, zamasu was immortal and all. But it shouldnt be held against him either gogeta in the same situations would probably do something similar
Vegito was stupid for betting everything on a complete uncertainty like Buu's body instead of killing him and using the reliable *Dragon Balls™* which Namek can provide. Can you imagine if Buu's magic body negated Ki or had any powerful KO agent? Any of those are possible To bury him deeper, they said he used too much power resulting in defusing... but then proceeded to show Kefla and Gogeta spam every move in their bag and still remain fused
Yeah but then again. It's a friend inside there. Both the wives (I think bui absorbed bulma? I forgot) of the fusion. And they're sons. I don't think vegito had the lack of morals to kill them
Same arc they still used the dragon balls cuz buu killed Gohan piccolo trunks and Goten Anyways 😂😂😂 Vegito was the 2nd weakest fusion warrior in all of super behind Kefla Gogeta and only superior to Gotenks lol
Counterpoint: Vegito’s plan against super buu is completly useless. I can understand he didn’t want to kill all those inside buu, but killing him would be much more efficient and beneficial, because it would prevent the rise of kid buu and destruction of entire planet. At the end they still needed dragon balls to revive everyone and it wasn’t even certain that they could even save them. Gogeta would deal with the situation better. The diffrence between conlusion to fight with zamasu and broly is that at the end of one, the threat was neutralized. Even tho broly didn’t die, he was no longer dangerous. On the other hand vegito was too unstable to finnish his fight, which is totally his vault. Atleast gogeta is stable enough to be abe to unleash killing blow and last after that. Although i think gogeta should have dealt with frieza immediately
And a counter point to the second part of your argument: Vegito was less stable in blue than gogeta is because vegito came earlier in the show, before vegeta and goku had mastered the blue form unlike gogeta in the broly movie who had a mastery to it. (Also Zamasu is god damn immortal not even gogeta could have done shit to him) And for your first point: That part is more of the writers issue because they could have done the same thing with gogeta *edit also they are quite literally the same character in different clothes
What was vegito supposed to do against zamasu , kill him ? The dude was immortal , beerus hims selfish said that he couldn't kill immortals , Zeno HAD to be brought in , and the buu thing , he didn't know that he will get defused + he didn't know about kid buu , to goku's knowledge it was supposed to be far buu who come out sonce he only saw that buu and same for vegeta, so saving everyone from buu so they can jump after was the right choice. Oh also the dragon balls wouldn't be able to bring piccolo back sonce he wad already killed and revived
@@Idkbruh214 since zamasu is corrupted, gogeta could have try to purify him, but I acknowledge that vegito couldnt defeat zamasu, but the author compared it to gogeta beign unable to defeat broly due to cheela’s wish which is wrong as stated above. In manga tho vegito had a chance to defeat zamasu but split when charging, because fusion was unstable, while gogeta seems like more stable fusion, but weaker due to fusion method (equal power is more stable than highest power of 2), so he might had more time to deal with zamasu
@ I know this isn’t cannon but db fuisions said that goku black and zamasu are pure of heart so soul punisher won’t work on him Let’s just end this as just a dumb RUclips comment debate, who really cares who has more wins.
@@wadelzein5122 1. He couldnt in anime, but had a chance in manga, but difused due to unstable fusion, gogeta could be more stable (but it is assumption, since fusion time is whatever author want it to be) 2. Since he didnt know he could go for safer option 3. And piccolo died in z and he was brought back? But how? Thanks to namekian dragonballs, they dont have that limit. Soo nothing would change, kill buu, use namekian dragonballs and restore everyone.
Lmfaooo omg here we go a vegito fanboy so mad cause his favorite overrated fusion has zero wins. I find it so hilarious how you vegito lovers have fallen from grace for years after Z it was always vegito is the better fusion because of stupid head canon you all came up with and it was always gogeta isn’t even canon that was ya favorite cause once ssj4 gogeta was the strongest fusion it ya argument was oh well he’s not even canon. Now the fusions are pretty much even and gogeta has consistently been shown more times then none to be the two out of the fusion to get the job done more often then not and you losers just can’t stand it lmfaooo it’s the most satisfying thing to watch. Now the argument is wins don’t matter right??? Please come back down to earth😂.
So what would Gogeta do in Buuhan fight to do better than Vegito since if he kills Buuhan he kills all his friends and his family (gohan, piccolo, goten and trunks) also how would he kill fused Zamasu and how would he prevent infinite Zamasu?
Technically speaking Gogeta in GT didn’t finish off omega even tho he had the chance, Vegito had friends and family inside Buu he didn’t want to kill Gogeta was goofing off and defused due to his use of power and arrogance
As someone who prefer Gogeta over Vegito, this Vegito never won a fight makes me furious. Let's face it this video explain pretty well the context of everything, but the truth is developers just choise to let Vegito lose, that's it, everytime time they come out with something ridiculous. Not Vegito fault if developers just decides to make him lose cause of plot armor. And yes as many already said, Vegito in a movie definitive would get different outcomes.
Vegito could have killed Zamasu, too late though. Also, I suppose they call it Omega Finishing Blow because, that was technically Vegito’s last ever attack in the Anime (for now) So, to tally it up, I will count fights they would have won or have won Gogeta - 3 (if he didn’t mess with omega shenron and yapped too much he could have won) Vegito - 2 (could have evaporated Buuhan if he wanted to) Honestly, I like both, they have cool catchphrases and poses, and they’re pretty funny!
as a gogeta fan, the vegito argument is stupid, i like both fusions (but i like gogeta more) and everyone should too, just because one has a win over the other, doesn't mean the other one is a fraud
Regardless of what vegito was planning he was absorbed is the same as being eaten so it’s a loss and for Broly vs gogeta broly was wished back home that is like running away in the middle of a fight
Bro are you brain dead?? HE GOT ABSORBED ON PURPOSE TO SAVE HIS FAMILY AND PICCOLO 😂😂😂 like Bruh that was his plan, even in the manga he says he’s waiting for buu to absorbed him so he can save them. And after buu absorbed vegito buu literally says “ he won i lost”. Vegito won , if he didn’t have to save anyone he would’ve killed buu and dbz would have ended right there 😂
This video shouldn't even have been made in the first place but Gogeta glazers are just that stupid and ignorant and dragon ball fans believing it makes this even dumber. This is why I find it 100 times funnier when Gogeta gets memed on (Gogeta taking Broly Boosted backshots and SSJ4 vs Cabba) because Gogeta glazers are so annoying. The most Vegito Glazers do is just bringing up the memes about Gogeta and go "this your goat?" while Gogeta glazers will make up false statements to make Gogeta look better. Both Fusions are and will always be goated interesting characters and the fact that this debate is as big as it is just shows how dbz fans (and quite honestly many new gen fans of animes in general) really like to not appericate Toriyama's work. Good Video btw
Even as a Fused Zamasu glazer, I fully admit that he lost in the Manga against Vegito. In the Anime, it was more like a tie, but Vegito completely humilated my goat in the Manga and I hate him for it.
Vegito doesn't have any "Ws" but I wouldn't say he has that many "Ls" either His plan against Buu was smart and almost worked but Vegito himself never actually beat him so I don't count it as a W personally. There was no winning against Zamasu as he was immortal and Vegito destroying his physical form would only lead to Infinite Zamasu so that's not an L. Cumber was just blatantly stronger than Vegito and everything he tried against him just didn't work so that's not an L either. The only instance where I would say Vegito was 100% at fault for his failure was his fight against Fu because he definitely could've finished him at any point but chose not to so you could count that as an L. Overall I agree with the general consensus of the video.
I kinda disagree at least with the Broly/Zamasu point If we’re treating it like a boxing match. Basically what happened with Broly was his team literally stopped the match. Which I would consider that a W for Gogeta Okay I don’t have a boxing reference for someone getting split back into two lol. But it was moreso Vegito didn’t know how long the fusion would last. Wasn’t his fault he didn’t know but I would consider that a loss. Unlike with buuhans case, he didn’t have anything holding him back either so if he was really that much ahead of Zamasu then he would’ve got the job done. I think the best I could say is that it’s DNF but tbh it is a Loss. That’s moreso applying to the anime version, in the manga he’s 100% above Zamasu but he still got caught lacking and didn’t know the time limit. I love both of these characters. But I think Gogeta would have 2 wins to Vegitos 1 win and maybe 1 loss or 1 DNF
Let me tell you exactly why we Gogeta Fans count Vegito two Appearances as L’s, both Times Vegito Appeared the Planet blew up no matter how you look at it Vegito failed, Now he 110% coulda easily killed Buu but the fact he didn’t is a big problem, u wanna count Vegito saving his Friends and Family as a W then I am gonna Count Buu blowing up the planet and killing all of them immediately afterwards as his L, Vegito shoulda killed Buuhan and revive everyone with the dragon balls as remembered dende was still alive instead everyone died, now Fuse Zamasu was a whole another case Vegito Blue legitimately loss that fight not only he lost the Fist Clash with Zamasu Overpowering Vegito, Zamasu also tanked the Final Kamehameha and comes out immediately saying “Behold my perfect divinity” like that was Vegito most powerful attack and it did nothing in the manga he definitely was gonna kill him but defused even faster and no that Punch by no means wouldn’t have killed Zamasu it was their last ditch of power and guess what happened after Vegito loss, Zeno has to be called in to finally erase Zamasu so he Blows up the planet that’s twice this has happened. Gogeta probably woulda done the same as Vegito but with Soul Punisher he could most likely Erase Zamasu Soul and body so he doesn’t come back like how Goku Hakai nearly worked on Zamasu in the manga. Now I like Vegito but if I be honest he has been done pretty dirty in super, like Gogeta winning his fights and staying afterwards while Vegito always end up defusing has become their trademarks at this point specially in dragon ball hero’s. For Canon Wise Gogeta did Beat Broly literally brought his Sanity back and woulda killed him he also stop Freiza from killing Broly Friends but not gonna count that, from everything we’ve seen I am just say I really do Believe Gogeta is the better fusion but Vegito is still pretty cool to just need him to get an actual W maybe Daima.
Vegito had literally no way to know that Kid Buu was gonna blow up the planet. Nobody except Kibito Kai knew and even then he never expected Kid Buu would show up again. Also you saying "ah Vegito should've just KILLED them" (three of them being literally family and two being CHILDREN) is the most inhumane excuse to use when saying Vegito lost.
"He won, I lost" - Buuhan "You may be *more powerful* , but you're still not a god" - Zamasu Also vegito had literally no way of knowing he would defuse in blue or after he got absorbed, so he most likely planned to rescue then kill buu. He also had no way of knkw that buuhan would become kid buu and nuke the planet instantly. Also bringing them back with the dragon balls is a dumb counterargument. If you could revive anyone in the world, would you kill your best friend and then bring him back because you know he won't stay dead? Didn't think so. By your logic, if gogeta vs broly was a W for gogeta, then I'm counting gogeta letting frieza live to achieve black form as an L for gogeta. As a vegito meatrider, we never said shit about gogeta, but gogeta fans want to just hate on vegito because they feel like it. Also corrupted zamasu didn't feel pain AT ALL. He got stabbed through the chest and didn't care, he got blasted by a fusion THAT ZAMASU ADMITTED HE WAS WEAKER THAN and didn't feel it. Why? He doesn't feel pain. And don't even TRY to bring up trunks, because that entire sequence was straight plot, and even then, the spirit bomb energy probably was able to hurt him due to the energy's purity. I love both gogeta and vegito, but I simply like vegito more because he feels more like a fusion as opposed to just an op ass charcter that beats up people that can't form sentences. No matter what way you put it, vegito was given 2 tasks, one of them being impossible, and still did his job, as he made buu significantly weaker than before, allowing one of the objective greatest moments in all of db, being the super spirit bomb.
My man if you think Gogeta one you surely need to watch gt again, Gogeta there was more trolling than trying to kill. And when he would finally do something useful the fusion was over.
OK, not hating on this but there’s a problem with the Broly and Zamasu comparison for one Gogeta would’ve killed Broly had cheelai not intervened. It was even stated that Broly was going to die in his fight. however, Vegito on the other hand, landed the final blow, but it didn’t do anything in the anime he landed the punch but just as he landed it they split the manga perspective does have a point though in fact, it was even stated that Vegeta with the Final kamahama surpassed Beerus so it was definitely going to kill zamasu
We know vegito was stronger than the people he fought he wouldnt be a fraud if he wasn’t. Sure he dosnt lose to buu but he dosnt win either so to speak. He allows Goku and Vegeta to rescue gang but that isnt winning, they still had to kill buu afterwards. Yes vegito helped in eventually beating buu but he didnt beat buu himself. If gogeta unfused while fighting broly and goku had to go ui to stop him, that wouldnt count as a Gogeta win just because he helped. So no
Anime Vegito would never finish off Zamasu no matter how long they stay fused. Games are not relevant, Zamasu one second earlier tanks the Finalkamehameha for zero damage. Gogeta would've died against Zamasu tho
U sure about that Two Vegitos failed to beat SSJ4 LB Broly while One Gogeta beat Dark LM SSJ4 Broly, and canon wise then no DBS Broly was way stronger than Fuse Zamasu.
@@nerdy_boy2785 Yes Janemba had the entirety of the underworld as hostage, immortality did not save Zamasu's body from trunks. Trunks > Vegito. Don't let me even bring cumber into this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gogeta wins his fights because he is a movie character, vegito is a show character that has a over arching plot, if he killed buu without saving the people who got absorbed dbz would’ve ended right there, and if he killed zamasu super would have ended because then there would be no two Zeno’s, which means no tournament of power. If vegito got movies he would be racking up kills just like gogeta, it’s common sense. But ofc a lot of dbz fans don’t have that
@ACertainMan like if gogeta would even damage zamasu. Trunks used the genkidama tech for his sword which is canon to destroy all malice (even if it literally fails always)
@FaultehBoi > Destroys all malice, nope not how that works and Zamasu is pure of heart anyways. Gogeta would erase Zamasu like he did Janemba Why is Gogeta even relavent to begin with?
5:08 also this is a fallacy, the follow two different fighting constraints. The reason why vegito’s win does not count is because he defused while fused zamasu can still fight back. That is like fighting and running out of energy! While fused zamasu can still fight. Vs gogeta, who no matter if he landed the kamehameha, would have won the fight, with broly already out of energy. Not hitting the last move is not the final factor for a win or loss. Did cell hit his final attack on goku? No , goku forfeited, but doesn’t that mean it’s technically a tie? Nope. Because goku forfeited his fight, meaning cell wins. The fight with vegito and gogeta are very different, so the logic you applied would be very skewed. One diffused running out of time, and one could have finish the fight and better yet won regardless if they hit their final attack. There is no bias here.
Bruh, VEGITO didn't knew about his reduction of time limit due to excess power usage and he went blue from the beginning only Gogeta fought in base first, ssj, then went blue i.e. he was able to not drain too much energy from the beginning only which made him last his fusion time so there's a difference here too
@@amulyabudhiraja5028 this still doesn’t change point that vegito still lost. Also gogeta could’ve gone blue from the start, and got even a better result? But still does not change the fact that he won his fight though
@@DawnSolar Yea bro, that's what he said in video, if gogeta won against broly in fight, so does vegito, who was dominating him and pushing back in fight just before final blow
Sorry to tell you but even if Vegito would have killed Fused Zamasu with the final kamehameha, fused Zamasu wouldn’t have been taken down fully because he is immortal no matter what at the end so The fused Zamasu fight can’t count as a win for Vegito but Buuhan can still count Gogeta wins - 2 Vegito wins - 1
Think about it if buu as defusing thing in his body then why didn't gotenks defused right away when absorbed, he was buutenks or what ever the name was , he went to piccolo after gotenks defused after 30min which makes no sense if fusions supposed to defused right away inside buu.
Its literally retcon before daima that mortal fuse only last 1 hour, kai in universe 7 probably never know about that cause they only see mortal x kai fuse (elder kai, like i actually dont know that old lady or witch is immortal ) and kai x kai, kibito and shin
@@sith29that’s my point, he’s a different type of fusion, so you can’t compare him to vegito, that’s the whole point vegito thought to release his barrier yet still defused whereas gotenks was still fused until the timer went out
Brother don't get me wrong.but, did you really understand what are you saying. talking about fight but what about the result. (Please forgive me for my spelling mistake, I am not that much good in English)
Vegito needs his own movie.
Yes he does
PLEAAASE I NEED THIS TOEI
he has his own move?
He does go watch ultra vegito
Vegito has won in heroes. So he does have wins. People count fusion reborn so I can count Heroes.
Are you sure? Cumber Defeated Vegito Blue Kaioken and SSJ4 Vegito , Vegito also didn’t Beat Broly instead Vegito blue had to sacrifice himself, any other fight on top of my head is probably Vegito Blue vs Demgira and guess what he literally does defuse as always, Gogeta on the other hand Beat Universal Hearts, Goku Black SSJR3, Dark Omega Shenron and Broly Dark Limit Breaker SSJ4 and only lost to Fu who defused the Two Gogetas but that’s about it no matter how u look at Gogeta has many more W’s in canon and not canon
@@gogetathestrongestfusion Yet, potara is still proven stronger. With proofs too. So W's or not, the fact stays the same.
Vegito took a massive L to the first villain in Heroes you don't wanna go there lmao. Both blue and monkey lost to Cumber so that's 2 Ls for Vegito meanwhile Gogeta got 2 major Ws lmao
@@goldenshadow8683right so wrong you are, u gonna take the outdated statement from elder Kai that didn’t know about the potara time limit or power limit? And Yes Vegito has a Power Limit in Z Kakraot Super Saiyan Vegito full power ended up defusing in 15 minutes while Gogeta can start in base use SSJ and Blue and even stick around for the aftermath of the fight unlike Vegito, no matter how you put it Gogeta had become stronger a while ago even tho the fusions were proven to be equal the retcons and statements has made Vegito useless entirely.
@@gogetathestrongestfusion It's literally proven and many made search. Are you serious? We already know he was wrong.
Funny part is people say Vegito is never serious but gogeta literally trolled and held back the beginning of the broly fight.. he just didn’t get consequences from it
And Vegito isn’t not serious, he literally tried to kill zamasu but zamasu was immortal
THIS BRO, and another thing the only reason you can even say gogeta "gets the job done" is because he's a movie character and movies have limited run time if dragon ball fans actually had a brain and had common sense they would know that its not even fair to compare one from a movie to the actual series so even further proof fusion war just is dumb
held back?? SSj Gogeta was more than enough before Broly went fpssj.
@@SkullZGaming_ cope
And they never mention how badly he sold in GT
@@raiden8991Rage Baiter. That's all ill say.
People seem to forget that Vegetto LITERALLY BEAT BOOHAN IN HIS FIRST APPEARANCE. They fought, Vegetto kicked his ass almost without lifting a finger, and then he outsmarted him to get absorbed to save Piccolo and the boys. He almost definitely would’ve just wiped Boo off the face of the Earth once he got out if he didn’t defuse.
And how did the fight end? Buu killed everyone on earth anyways.
@@ACertainMan No, the fight ended with Goku killing Boo, and Kibitoshin and the Namekians restoring Earth with the Dragon Balls.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 Different fight.
@@thefilmwatcher1302you is a professional yapping lil bro lol you did not cook lol
@@ACertainMannot the same as necessarily winning there buu killed Goku Vegeta and everyone else not vegito invalid clap back
Gotenks is the actual fraud out of all of the fusions
I don’t think any of the fusions besides Gogeta 4 are frauds.
Making a completely incorrect claim on a video where the whole point is saying how all the fusion are sick as hell is crazy work
Fusions are mid. @@povac
Nah, Gotenks actually put in work in his fights, Kelfa is the BIGGEST fraud of the fusions.
@@JustanAverageUnknown Fr she got bodies by a essentially 75% Goku 😭 imagine bro had the zenkai and was 100% recouped
Me personally, i like gogeta more.HOWEVER i think vegito is really cool too. us as dragon ball fans need to stop arguing, like both without being at each other's neck about it and chill.This is me two days later but wow 16 likes is the most likes I've ever had on a comment (even though I don't comment that much) thanks to everyone who liked.
The thing with Zamasu is that there is no winning against zamasu. Gogeta either would have same outcome or even worse than vegito against zamasu. Zamasu will ultimately come back as infinite zamasu, only zeno can fully erase him
And before anybody says "Soul punisher" would cleanse him
No,if soul punisher if it works as a fandom think it is as it destroys evil energy then Trunks Spirit Bomb Sword would have done the job and cleansed all evil from Zamasu instead of his particles corrupting the whole timeline. If Hakai doesn't work against immortality then I doubt Soul punisher would do any different.
The only outcome I see them winning in this saga is Goku doesn't forgot the seal for Mafuba or Learn how to make one in the past
People forget that at future trunks saga both goku and vegeta haven't mastered ssb so vegito was draining a lot of ki in that fight which led him to defuse while at the time of broly movie goku and vegeta have mastered ssb so gogeta was easly able to fight in full power that the difference otherwise vegito better
No they didn’t master it. The difference between the potara and the fusion dance is that if you used so much ki you’ll automatically defuse if the potara can’t handle it that’s exactly what goku said in the future trunks saga, as for the fusion dance yeah it has a shorter time limit than the potara but the difference is that, you can use as much ki as you want it will not force you to defuse if you used a lot of ki unlike the potara fusion.
I know that goku did in fact (perfected) ssjb (in the manga) during the future trunks saga but he didn’t mastered ssjb during the broly movie. 💀
@@AZIZ_50598 you're wrong. Gogeta would've defused if he didn't hurry things up when he was in blue due to the fusion multiplier + blue multiplier which probably wouldn't hold it. He knew Broly would rampage if he defused so he tried to kill Broly.
@@SHALDAGOATHe wouldn't have defused Gogeta used multiple stardust breakers, a whole soul punisher, metoer explosion, full power kamehamea, and was spamming ki blasts likr crazy and still didn't defuse. Gogeta simply went for the kill because Broly is extremely quick to adapt and didn't want him to power up even more
@@AZIZ_50598 you didn't watch the show what is the proof Goku didn't said anything because of people like you gogeta yapper are still yapping
5:27 this is also incorrect, as stated he is immortal, and all he would do afterwards is regenerate. In the manga you could say that vegito can eviscerate him, but in the anime they were much closer power wise. Even gowasu said that his power was rising with every second passing. You may look at vegitos reactions, smaller battle damage, etc.
Just like regenerated from trunks sword attack? I don't think so :v
@ 😒you realize zamasu still lived
Ngl you didn’t cook with the zamasu section. What you should’ve said was that it was a loose/loose situation. Even if vegito finished off fused zamasu he would have just created infinite zamasu and this also applies to the manga. Vegito was screwed in that situation no matter what
Difference with the Gogeta vs Broly fight and the Vegito vs Zamasu fight is that in the broly movie even if Broly does get away the threat was still taken care of and neutralized by gogeta as in his final move would've actually killed him whereas Vegito defusing left Zamasu completely fine
Okay but the thing about zamasu loss and gogeta “loss” is that Broly was COOKED whereas Zamasu was nowhere near finished. Using a vague statement from Vegito (in an anime where characters are always yelling taunts) isn’t proof it would’ve finished off Zamasu.
Cuz zamasu was immortal fused zamas was immortal so they could’ve never killed him due to his immortal body but for majority of the fight he got his ass handed to him he could just keep coming back thanks to immortality
I agree with the dying by the fusion is a bit much, especially when adding Super Dragonball Heroes into this argument. Im a Gogeta fan myself but I cant say Vegito sucks and only has Ls. Vegito fought well and used his wits a lot in battle. Gogeta had more chances to go for all out brute force. One thing is for sure, fusions need more manga/screen time.
Indeed, imagine a movie dedicated to Gogeta where he fights an enemy that gives him a good fight and wins. Same for Vegito, I'd love to see a dedicated movie for Vegito where, like I said before, for Gogeta, fights an enemy and gets a good fight and wins
Gogeta was goofing with broly and after he got hit 3 times he started to get serious and people say vegito is goofy , there not db fans for sure 😂
Vegito literally powered up straight away and negged diffed him in manga. + Gogeta would've defused too which is why he tried to go blue at the end and immediately wanted to kill Broly because he'd defuse. Blue multiplier + Fusion dance multiplier is wayy too much
My brother in christ he literally dodged a few attacks and smiled at broly, aside from that he was kicking his ass, broly landed no hits that did any damage, gogeta hit him with moves that did damage, enough to force broly into legendary super saiyan, and oh god three hits, whatever will gogeta do? Powers up and continues to beat his ass.
Also as far as gogeta is concerned that was brolys limit in terms of huge power boosts, how was anyone meant to predict him going into lgss
People never bring up how ssj4 gogeta played with omega and defused and fumbled his win
I bring it up all the time but I still think Gogeta better
To be fair he was waiting for the karma ball to remove the built up negative energy and he did reduce omega back to syn so he still at least got something done
He technically “killed” Omega and turned him back into syn Shenron but your point still stands.
he tried to do the same thing Vegito did.
He waited to save the universe from the negative energy and then finish Omega off.
It’s a dumb argument because given the scenarios it makes sense why Vegito didn’t get the job done however I will say this Vegito fans kinda deserve it they spent years boasting about how he’s the better fusion and now that Gogeta is now canon and his fusion was retconned to equal vegitos instead of being inferior like the past it’s lowkey their time to flex their favorite fusion Vegito fans had their time now it’s time for Gogeta fans to get active
And plus why would they have potaras every fight? You'd think they would think that far? The dance is more convenient
we are trying to prove who's stronger not whatever you think
then there's no way Gogeta wins since at best you will hear sources saying they are equal, while others says potara is stronger, but NEVER you will hear an official source saying Gogeta is stronger.
I've always assumed it's little kids doing these dumb debates, i just recently found out it's grown men too😭😭😭
For the First fight against buu
I agree
But not necessarily in the second
In the second one I can't understand why you think gogeta's situation is in any way comparable to vegito's
The reason why gogeta didn't win was that his opponent escaped but at the end he still got what he wanted
He neutralized broly
So that still counts as a win
The reason why vegito lost is because he drained his energy and ultimately his impressive performance against zamasu was pointless
If it wasn't for Zeno it would have been over
Gogeta’s fights:
*Vs Janemba: “I beat my little brother in a fighting game”
*Vs Broly: “I beat my little brother in a fighting game”
*Vs Omega: “I was beating my little brother in a fighting game but dicked around too much and accidentally lost when the round timer ran out.”
Vegito’s fights:
*Vs Buuhan: “I was playing my little brother in a fighting game, but he stole some of my fav toys, so I had to mindgames my way to getting my stuff back before beating his ass.”
*Vs Zamasu: “I was playing my twin brother in a fighting game, but he had cheat codes on so his character was nigh-unkillable; I almost won regardless but the round timer ran out.”
All Gogeta does is beat foes who never stood a chance at winning in the first place. Vegito’s fights are 1. A hostage situation requiring psychological warfare to avoid filicide and 2. A fight against a fellow Potara fusion who is unkillable against anything less than Zeno. The difference in challenge-level here speaks volumes.
Lemme know when Gogeta takes on a fellow Metamoran fusion empowered by an omnipotent dragon god and we’ll talk.
lmaooooo, bro thinks he said something
@@SadregLT that G pfp stands for gogetaglaze don't it
Bro thought he cooked when gogeta fought stronger people 💀
@@ultimateblackmenace Like who? Hearts? Come on, we know heros doesnt count at all
@@ultimateblackmenace so? Gogeta was also stronger. Vegito blue is future trunks arc. Pre. T.O.P. gogeta is broly movie. Post T.O.P. in the T.O.P they became a shit load more powerful. If they just randomly had potaras vegito would've done the same if not better job then gogeta
1:12 to skip the make peace not war both characters are good bs
I like both to i just hate when people do this stuff, just say your point
nah i could never get caught liking somebody wearing a life jacket
atleast Gogeta has his own outfit rather than wearing a recoloured version of both their outfits lol
@@raiden8991Let's relax, Vegito looks more of an actual fusion between Goku and Vegeta (having key items of both characters like Vegeta's gloves and boots while also having Goku's clothes with the top referencing Vegeta's blue shirt and the bottom having Goku's orange from his outfit) while Gogeta looks like a completely different entity to them (having no key items from both).
@@erickmontes2149 not only the clothes, he overall looks just like ssj 2 Goku with less bangs. Gogeta in terms of behavior has Goku's righteousness and Vegeta's ruthlessness and some cockyness of both Goku and Vegeta and Unlike Vegito, Gogeta mostly talks with his fists.
@@raiden8991 Funny how you talk about Vegito's looks and not Gogeta. Instead, you talk about Gogeta's behavior being more 'righteous' or whatever. Want to know the truth? If you compared Vegito to Ssj2 Goku but with fewer bangs, then what does that make Gogeta? SSJ2 Goku with even fewer bangs? Just stop. They're both great fusions, and both do things uniquely to one another.
@@erickmontes2149 goku and vegeta doing potara fusion touching boners is gay gogeta actually got swag and id dance any day than to fuse like that with another man.
0:17 - 0:33 you got a new sub brother, keep up the grind
not just fusion war but honestly just anything dragon ball fans argue about is stupid swear they will find anything to argue about and it will be over the most the silliest thing too (sure there are some fair arguments here and there but majority of them are just goofy)😭
so true
Exactly bro
nah this valid. Gogeta fans K on my dead homie cuh. Fuck them
true ash
anime arguments are unique like that, not even the starwars community is this goofy
Giving a like and subscribe and going to share it to big big discord servers so gogeta fans realise what they are doing wrong and while making yiu famous.
Excellent observation!
"The fusion war is stupid" *war continues*
"These characters are the same, it's pointless" *war continues*
"Stop having nerd fun!!!"
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SO TRUE, I'm a Gogeta fan and while in my opinion he is cooler and stronger, Vegito is awsome too!
Gogeta isn't stronger though
Respect you for respecting Vegito. But just to give some clarification. Multiple guidebooks have stated Potara > Fusion Dance. There is one saying Gogeta was stronger but that got retconned in the same issue it was stated. The only other source is from v jump and claims they are equal. But this contradicts official guidebooks. Doesn’t inherently have anything to do with power. And comes from a less reliable source than the guidebooks. So I don’t count it. I go off the official guides that say Potara > Fusion Dance. Vegito is more powerful but you can still think Gogeta is cooler. You have a right to your opinion.
@@shadowsansvii8715the dbs Broly movie scans everyone practically talked about saying both fusions are equal yet it seems far from it, dbz Kakraot the game is the closest we have to the manga and in it super saiyan Vegito defuses in 15 minutes for using too much power and shin just says the potara does indeed have a power limit which explains why Vegito defuses so often. While Gogeta doesn’t have this problem as much practically making potara seem unstable so Gogeta I say is stronger until they retcon this all the stats go in his favour.
@@initialize21he is has better feats lol
@@gogetathestrongestfusionIn the movie goku says “but we don’t have the potara’s right now so we need to do it medamorian way.” That shows potara is better and why is the zamasu ark not fuse into gogeta instead? Why? Because he knows vegito better. You may say “because potara is a safer option or that they may mess up the dance” but no.
Underrated channel. Great video!
The reason people count Broly unlike Zamasu is cuz Cheelai interfered with the fight. If Gogeta wanted to he could go kill Broly by Instant Transmission. Vegito couldn't do anything against Zamasu being immortal. Hell people even argue Gogeta does better against Buu and Zamasu thanks to Soul Punisher
Doesnt matter how many times you repeat these completely fair arguments. Istg some of those gogeta fans just dont usve brains and refuse to listen 💔
Vegito may have 0 real wins, but he fought almost unkillable enemies, aint no one beating zamasu or buuhan (more when the plan was get absorbed to free everyone)
Hell yeah, preach brother!
Gonna riled up the fusion debaters here.
The hate of the 2 fusion fandoms for each other is just sad 😔
Gogeta out here fighting super sayian vegito fighting immortal gods talk done
Entire comment section doing exactly what this guy said was stupid
I like both, but vegito indeed didnt win because of defuse but gogeta win against broly, if you fight a guy in a game you dominated hard and literally in the middle of ultimate, but you disconnected, technically you lose (even tho its not your fault), but if the opponent disconnected you win , cause they running away/forfeit the fight, vegito having 0 win is wrong but calling gogeta didnt win againt broly is also wrong
This makes no sense gogeta didn’t beat broly technically so he has no wins and if try to bring up anything else is non cannon
People confuse HAVING THE ABILITY TO EASILY WIN IF BUT HAVING OTHER FACTORS you have to worry about with BEING FRAUDULENT AND ACTUALLY WEAK vegito was always strong enough to win his battles its just 1 killing buuhan wasn't his main he because his family was in him and 2 zamasu was immortal 🤦♂️ if he wasn't he would have clearly died im sure
Great video tho! You inspired me to make my own vid on it.
Majority of Gogetas fans are hella biased
That goes for both
@ true but the ones I’ve seen where Gogeta fans
5:56 this is not necessarily the case. Wrong way to interpret his statement. They are both canon, but they are different continuities.
Both toei and toyotaro adapt toriyama's outlines in their own way, theres no "true" canon, since both can be considered as canon, since the author did not make a manga, only the story, and the 2 who work w him adapted it (toei and toyotaro), so both are canon.
A bigger key about the Zamasu fight was that it was Zamasu's immortality that kept him from just dying. Gogeta wouldn't just magically kill what Vegito couldn't, because the circumstances would have been the same.
Also, no. The fight wouldn't have ended if Vegito didn't defuse. At least in the anime. The manga still had similarities mind you with the whole "infinite Zamasu" thing. But Zamasu was immortal. Even if you managed to kill his physical body, he'd have some way of coming back. In the anime, he lost his entire physical form, but his essence was still capable of fighting. So, in both scenarios of either Vegito or Gogeta, both would have ultimately not finished the fight before defusing, leaving it to have the result that only Zeno could have finished Zamasu entirely, immortal or not.
Technically vegito didnt get wins since buuhan had friends and family, zamasu was immortal and all. But it shouldnt be held against him either gogeta in the same situations would probably do something similar
Vegito was stupid for betting everything on a complete uncertainty like Buu's body instead of killing him and using the reliable *Dragon Balls™* which Namek can provide. Can you imagine if Buu's magic body negated Ki or had any powerful KO agent? Any of those are possible
To bury him deeper, they said he used too much power resulting in defusing... but then proceeded to show Kefla and Gogeta spam every move in their bag and still remain fused
Yeah but then again. It's a friend inside there. Both the wives (I think bui absorbed bulma? I forgot) of the fusion. And they're sons. I don't think vegito had the lack of morals to kill them
Same arc they still used the dragon balls cuz buu killed Gohan piccolo trunks and Goten Anyways 😂😂😂
Vegito was the 2nd weakest fusion warrior in all of super behind Kefla Gogeta and only superior to Gotenks lol
Gogeta would've done the same thing. You waffling on about how gogeta would do things differently when they made up of two of the same characters 😭😭
both fusions are fun to watch when they appear in any db anime/game. i never understood why people 'hate' on one another
And one major fact is that, people think that KILLING someone means winning. That’s not always the case
Counterpoint:
Vegito’s plan against super buu is completly useless. I can understand he didn’t want to kill all those inside buu, but killing him would be much more efficient and beneficial, because it would prevent the rise of kid buu and destruction of entire planet. At the end they still needed dragon balls to revive everyone and it wasn’t even certain that they could even save them. Gogeta would deal with the situation better.
The diffrence between conlusion to fight with zamasu and broly is that at the end of one, the threat was neutralized. Even tho broly didn’t die, he was no longer dangerous. On the other hand vegito was too unstable to finnish his fight, which is totally his vault. Atleast gogeta is stable enough to be abe to unleash killing blow and last after that.
Although i think gogeta should have dealt with frieza immediately
And a counter point to the second part of your argument:
Vegito was less stable in blue than gogeta is because vegito came earlier in the show, before vegeta and goku had mastered the blue form unlike gogeta in the broly movie who had a mastery to it. (Also Zamasu is god damn immortal not even gogeta could have done shit to him)
And for your first point:
That part is more of the writers issue because they could have done the same thing with gogeta
*edit also they are quite literally the same character in different clothes
What was vegito supposed to do against zamasu , kill him ? The dude was immortal , beerus hims selfish said that he couldn't kill immortals , Zeno HAD to be brought in , and the buu thing , he didn't know that he will get defused + he didn't know about kid buu , to goku's knowledge it was supposed to be far buu who come out sonce he only saw that buu and same for vegeta, so saving everyone from buu so they can jump after was the right choice. Oh also the dragon balls wouldn't be able to bring piccolo back sonce he wad already killed and revived
@@Idkbruh214 since zamasu is corrupted, gogeta could have try to purify him, but I acknowledge that vegito couldnt defeat zamasu, but the author compared it to gogeta beign unable to defeat broly due to cheela’s wish which is wrong as stated above. In manga tho vegito had a chance to defeat zamasu but split when charging, because fusion was unstable, while gogeta seems like more stable fusion, but weaker due to fusion method (equal power is more stable than highest power of 2), so he might had more time to deal with zamasu
@ I know this isn’t cannon but db fuisions said that goku black and zamasu are pure of heart so soul punisher won’t work on him
Let’s just end this as just a dumb RUclips comment debate, who really cares who has more wins.
@@wadelzein5122 1. He couldnt in anime, but had a chance in manga, but difused due to unstable fusion, gogeta could be more stable (but it is assumption, since fusion time is whatever author want it to be)
2. Since he didnt know he could go for safer option
3. And piccolo died in z and he was brought back? But how? Thanks to namekian dragonballs, they dont have that limit. Soo nothing would change, kill buu, use namekian dragonballs and restore everyone.
Lmfaooo omg here we go a vegito fanboy so mad cause his favorite overrated fusion has zero wins. I find it so hilarious how you vegito lovers have fallen from grace for years after Z it was always vegito is the better fusion because of stupid head canon you all came up with and it was always gogeta isn’t even canon that was ya favorite cause once ssj4 gogeta was the strongest fusion it ya argument was oh well he’s not even canon. Now the fusions are pretty much even and gogeta has consistently been shown more times then none to be the two out of the fusion to get the job done more often then not and you losers just can’t stand it lmfaooo it’s the most satisfying thing to watch. Now the argument is wins don’t matter right??? Please come back down to earth😂.
So what would Gogeta do in Buuhan fight to do better than Vegito since if he kills Buuhan he kills all his friends and his family (gohan, piccolo, goten and trunks) also how would he kill fused Zamasu and how would he prevent infinite Zamasu?
Technically speaking Gogeta in GT didn’t finish off omega even tho he had the chance, Vegito had friends and family inside Buu he didn’t want to kill Gogeta was goofing off and defused due to his use of power and arrogance
As someone who prefer Gogeta over Vegito, this Vegito never won a fight makes me furious.
Let's face it this video explain pretty well the context of everything, but the truth is developers just choise to let Vegito lose, that's it, everytime time they come out with something ridiculous.
Not Vegito fault if developers just decides to make him lose cause of plot armor. And yes as many already said, Vegito in a movie definitive would get different outcomes.
Vegito could have killed Zamasu, too late though.
Also, I suppose they call it Omega Finishing Blow because, that was technically Vegito’s last ever attack in the Anime (for now)
So, to tally it up, I will count fights they would have won or have won
Gogeta - 3 (if he didn’t mess with omega shenron and yapped too much he could have won)
Vegito - 2 (could have evaporated Buuhan if he wanted to)
Honestly, I like both, they have cool catchphrases and poses, and they’re pretty funny!
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Very good points. 👍👍
really good analysis to this stupid argument Vegito is way cooler imo 🗣
5:59 Vegito wasn't part of Toriyama's original draft so I don't think this argument holds much weight
as a gogeta fan, the vegito argument is stupid, i like both fusions (but i like gogeta more) and everyone should too, just because one has a win over the other, doesn't mean the other one is a fraud
Regardless of what vegito was planning he was absorbed is the same as being eaten so it’s a loss and for Broly vs gogeta broly was wished back home that is like running away in the middle of a fight
But Buu admitted defeat
Bro are you brain dead?? HE GOT ABSORBED ON PURPOSE TO SAVE HIS FAMILY AND PICCOLO 😂😂😂 like
Bruh that was his plan, even in the manga he says he’s waiting for buu to absorbed him so he can save them. And after buu absorbed vegito buu literally says “ he won i lost”. Vegito won , if he didn’t have to save anyone he would’ve killed buu and dbz would have ended right there 😂
My boy. Vegito wanted to get absorbed to save everyone.
''Dont fuck with us dragon ball fans, we dont even watch our show rather we watch it from tiktok edits''
My guy. The goal was to be absorbed. It would've been a loss of he didn't get absorbed
They watched the video and nothing changed. Don't forget toxic people aren't intelligent so they can't learn. So essentially 'ITS FUTILE!'
Vegito would not have defused right at that moment if he had not been yapping whiles still in blue so it’s partially his fault he defused.
This video shouldn't even have been made in the first place but Gogeta glazers are just that stupid and ignorant and dragon ball fans believing it makes this even dumber. This is why I find it 100 times funnier when Gogeta gets memed on (Gogeta taking Broly Boosted backshots and SSJ4 vs Cabba) because Gogeta glazers are so annoying. The most Vegito Glazers do is just bringing up the memes about Gogeta and go "this your goat?" while Gogeta glazers will make up false statements to make Gogeta look better. Both Fusions are and will always be goated interesting characters and the fact that this debate is as big as it is just shows how dbz fans (and quite honestly many new gen fans of animes in general) really like to not appericate Toriyama's work. Good Video btw
Facts only Facts we'll done
Even as a Fused Zamasu glazer, I fully admit that he lost in the Manga against Vegito. In the Anime, it was more like a tie, but Vegito completely humilated my goat in the Manga and I hate him for it.
What is the worst enemy od gogeta fan? Inteligence and maturity
Ive said this before but fusion arent supposed to win fights but to ahowcase power
Vegito doesn't have any "Ws" but I wouldn't say he has that many "Ls" either
His plan against Buu was smart and almost worked but Vegito himself never actually beat him so I don't count it as a W personally.
There was no winning against Zamasu as he was immortal and Vegito destroying his physical form would only lead to Infinite Zamasu so that's not an L.
Cumber was just blatantly stronger than Vegito and everything he tried against him just didn't work so that's not an L either.
The only instance where I would say Vegito was 100% at fault for his failure was his fight against Fu because he definitely could've finished him at any point but chose not to so you could count that as an L.
Overall I agree with the general consensus of the video.
I kinda disagree at least with the Broly/Zamasu point
If we’re treating it like a boxing match. Basically what happened with Broly was his team literally stopped the match. Which I would consider that a W for Gogeta
Okay I don’t have a boxing reference for someone getting split back into two lol. But it was moreso Vegito didn’t know how long the fusion would last. Wasn’t his fault he didn’t know but I would consider that a loss. Unlike with buuhans case, he didn’t have anything holding him back either so if he was really that much ahead of Zamasu then he would’ve got the job done. I think the best I could say is that it’s DNF but tbh it is a Loss.
That’s moreso applying to the anime version, in the manga he’s 100% above Zamasu but he still got caught lacking and didn’t know the time limit. I love both of these characters. But I think Gogeta would have 2 wins to Vegitos 1 win and maybe 1 loss or 1 DNF
Let me tell you exactly why we Gogeta Fans count Vegito two Appearances as L’s, both Times Vegito Appeared the Planet blew up no matter how you look at it Vegito failed, Now he 110% coulda easily killed Buu but the fact he didn’t is a big problem, u wanna count Vegito saving his Friends and Family as a W then I am gonna Count Buu blowing up the planet and killing all of them immediately afterwards as his L, Vegito shoulda killed Buuhan and revive everyone with the dragon balls as remembered dende was still alive instead everyone died, now Fuse Zamasu was a whole another case Vegito Blue legitimately loss that fight not only he lost the Fist Clash with Zamasu Overpowering Vegito, Zamasu also tanked the Final Kamehameha and comes out immediately saying “Behold my perfect divinity” like that was Vegito most powerful attack and it did nothing in the manga he definitely was gonna kill him but defused even faster and no that Punch by no means wouldn’t have killed Zamasu it was their last ditch of power and guess what happened after Vegito loss, Zeno has to be called in to finally erase Zamasu so he Blows up the planet that’s twice this has happened. Gogeta probably woulda done the same as Vegito but with Soul Punisher he could most likely Erase Zamasu Soul and body so he doesn’t come back like how Goku Hakai nearly worked on Zamasu in the manga. Now I like Vegito but if I be honest he has been done pretty dirty in super, like Gogeta winning his fights and staying afterwards while Vegito always end up defusing has become their trademarks at this point specially in dragon ball hero’s. For Canon Wise Gogeta did Beat Broly literally brought his Sanity back and woulda killed him he also stop Freiza from killing Broly Friends but not gonna count that, from everything we’ve seen I am just say I really do Believe Gogeta is the better fusion but Vegito is still pretty cool to just need him to get an actual W maybe Daima.
This is just dumb, Ngl.
Vegito had literally no way to know that Kid Buu was gonna blow up the planet. Nobody except Kibito Kai knew and even then he never expected Kid Buu would show up again. Also you saying "ah Vegito should've just KILLED them" (three of them being literally family and two being CHILDREN) is the most inhumane excuse to use when saying Vegito lost.
"He won, I lost"
- Buuhan
"You may be *more powerful* , but you're still not a god"
- Zamasu
Also vegito had literally no way of knowing he would defuse in blue or after he got absorbed, so he most likely planned to rescue then kill buu. He also had no way of knkw that buuhan would become kid buu and nuke the planet instantly. Also bringing them back with the dragon balls is a dumb counterargument. If you could revive anyone in the world, would you kill your best friend and then bring him back because you know he won't stay dead? Didn't think so. By your logic, if gogeta vs broly was a W for gogeta, then I'm counting gogeta letting frieza live to achieve black form as an L for gogeta. As a vegito meatrider, we never said shit about gogeta, but gogeta fans want to just hate on vegito because they feel like it. Also corrupted zamasu didn't feel pain AT ALL. He got stabbed through the chest and didn't care, he got blasted by a fusion THAT ZAMASU ADMITTED HE WAS WEAKER THAN and didn't feel it. Why? He doesn't feel pain. And don't even TRY to bring up trunks, because that entire sequence was straight plot, and even then, the spirit bomb energy probably was able to hurt him due to the energy's purity. I love both gogeta and vegito, but I simply like vegito more because he feels more like a fusion as opposed to just an op ass charcter that beats up people that can't form sentences. No matter what way you put it, vegito was given 2 tasks, one of them being impossible, and still did his job, as he made buu significantly weaker than before, allowing one of the objective greatest moments in all of db, being the super spirit bomb.
Thanks for proving this video right lol. Fans are confused.
Your name is literally gogetastrongestfusion
You are biased
The amount of cope in this video is crazy 😭😭 bro dosent even mention gt because he wants the score to be even
not like gogeta won that fight anyways
My man if you think Gogeta one you surely need to watch gt again, Gogeta there was more trolling than trying to kill. And when he would finally do something useful the fusion was over.
Facts and vegito is more goku
We all know Vegito could have beaten buuhan but choose not to well at least people which read or watch the series.....
OK, not hating on this but there’s a problem with the Broly and Zamasu comparison for one Gogeta would’ve killed Broly had cheelai not intervened. It was even stated that Broly was going to die in his fight. however, Vegito on the other hand, landed the final blow, but it didn’t do anything in the anime he landed the punch but just as he landed it they split
the manga perspective does have a point though in fact, it was even stated that Vegeta with the
Final kamahama surpassed Beerus so it was definitely going to kill zamasu
We know vegito was stronger than the people he fought he wouldnt be a fraud if he wasn’t. Sure he dosnt lose to buu but he dosnt win either so to speak. He allows Goku and Vegeta to rescue gang but that isnt winning, they still had to kill buu afterwards. Yes vegito helped in eventually beating buu but he didnt beat buu himself. If gogeta unfused while fighting broly and goku had to go ui to stop him, that wouldnt count as a Gogeta win just because he helped. So no
Anime Vegito would never finish off Zamasu no matter how long they stay fused. Games are not relevant, Zamasu one second earlier tanks the Finalkamehameha for zero damage.
Gogeta would've died against Zamasu tho
Vegito needs some rest, gogeta fans are being too dramatic
Vegito's oppenents are majority wayy stronger than gogeta. Simple
U sure about that Two Vegitos failed to beat SSJ4 LB Broly while One Gogeta beat Dark LM SSJ4 Broly, and canon wise then no DBS Broly was way stronger than Fuse Zamasu.
Janemba is above Buu
Broly is above Zamasu
@@ACertainMan One had hostages and the other immortal shut up.
@@nerdy_boy2785 Yes Janemba had the entirety of the underworld as hostage, immortality did not save Zamasu's body from trunks. Trunks > Vegito.
Don't let me even bring cumber into this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gogeta wins his fights because he is a movie character, vegito is a show character that has a over arching plot, if he killed buu without saving the people who got absorbed dbz would’ve ended right there, and if he killed zamasu super would have ended because then there would be no two Zeno’s, which means no tournament of power. If vegito got movies he would be racking up kills just like gogeta, it’s common sense. But ofc a lot of dbz fans don’t have that
For Buu I understand but Zamasu I think all of us be happy if Vegito and Trunks Killed Zamasu together and the arc ended there.
@@gogetathestrongestfusion When the entire arc is kick-started by a fraud what do people expect other than fraudulent behaviour from the ending lmao
i am a vegito fan and i prefer him but i still have the two fusions has wallpaper on my phone
5:03 What if I'm a Gogeta AND Vegito hater and I just want to downplay both?
Vegetto didnt know ssb would end the fusion in 5 mins
@@FaultehBoi Vegito's full power Kamehameha still failed against Zamasu so no him defusing is irrelevant.
@ACertainMan like if gogeta would even damage zamasu. Trunks used the genkidama tech for his sword which is canon to destroy all malice (even if it literally fails always)
@FaultehBoi
> Destroys all malice, nope not how that works and Zamasu is pure of heart anyways. Gogeta would erase Zamasu like he did Janemba
Why is Gogeta even relavent to begin with?
@ACertainMan stardust breaker aint an attack that erases all malice. Also zamasu is not pure of heart, gowasu made sure of that fact
@ACertainMan cuz Zamasu is fucking immortal. Gogeta would not even touch Zamasu.
Vegetto had the most complicated foes.
Some Gogeta fans say vegito lost to buu and zamasu because he didn’t kill them, then claim that gogeta beat omega and broly??? Clown behaviour
I don’t watch dragon ball so don’t come after me. But I didn’t know there was a difference between them, besides outfits.
FAXXXXXXXXXX.Couldnt say that better..
God bless yall
Allah is amazing 😊
I am still waiting for Vegito to get his own movie. Then we will see the looks on the faces of these gogeta glazers
Gogeta glazers need to see this...
People forget that vegito is a perfect martial artists 🐐
All I hear is facts
5:08 also this is a fallacy, the follow two different fighting constraints. The reason why vegito’s win does not count is because he defused while fused zamasu can still fight back. That is like fighting and running out of energy! While fused zamasu can still fight. Vs gogeta, who no matter if he landed the kamehameha, would have won the fight, with broly already out of energy.
Not hitting the last move is not the final factor for a win or loss. Did cell hit his final attack on goku? No , goku forfeited, but doesn’t that mean it’s technically a tie? Nope. Because goku forfeited his fight, meaning cell wins.
The fight with vegito and gogeta are very different, so the logic you applied would be very skewed. One diffused running out of time, and one could have finish the fight and better yet won regardless if they hit their final attack. There is no bias here.
zip it up after u done 👍🏻
Bruh, VEGITO didn't knew about his reduction of time limit due to excess power usage and he went blue from the beginning only
Gogeta fought in base first, ssj, then went blue i.e. he was able to not drain too much energy from the beginning only which made him last his fusion time so there's a difference here too
@@Poseidon-P there wasn’t any glaze here, just correcting whatever he said. 🙂↕️
@@amulyabudhiraja5028 this still doesn’t change point that vegito still lost. Also gogeta could’ve gone blue from the start, and got even a better result? But still does not change the fact that he won his fight though
@@DawnSolar Yea bro, that's what he said in video, if gogeta won against broly in fight, so does vegito, who was dominating him and pushing back in fight just before final blow
Gogeta is the only one w a loss in GT :P
Sorry to tell you but even if Vegito would have killed Fused Zamasu with the final kamehameha, fused Zamasu wouldn’t have been taken down fully because he is immortal no matter what at the end so The fused Zamasu fight can’t count as a win for Vegito but Buuhan can still count
Gogeta wins - 2
Vegito wins - 1
i am on the side that:
Buu defeated
Zamasu didnt actually win
Broly didnt actually win
Who did vegito beat in the cannon series
Think about it if buu as defusing thing in his body then why didn't gotenks defused right away when absorbed, he was buutenks or what ever the name was , he went to piccolo after gotenks defused after 30min which makes no sense if fusions supposed to defused right away inside buu.
That my friend, is what we call a plot hole
Its literally retcon before daima that mortal fuse only last 1 hour, kai in universe 7 probably never know about that cause they only see mortal x kai fuse (elder kai, like i actually dont know that old lady or witch is immortal ) and kai x kai, kibito and shin
He’s not a potara fusion
@nocapp_ who said he was
@@sith29that’s my point, he’s a different type of fusion, so you can’t compare him to vegito, that’s the whole point vegito thought to release his barrier yet still defused whereas gotenks was still fused until the timer went out
still hasnt killed lol!!
People legit missed your main point at the start of the vid. clowns.
on my soul fusion reborn gogeta, gt gogeta, and heroes vegito and gogeta wins/losses dont count both canon vegito and gogeta have no wins
Vegito - Gogeta 0 - 2
Brother don't get me wrong.but, did you really understand what are you saying. talking about fight but what about the result. (Please forgive me for my spelling mistake, I am not that much good in English)