03:00 - Alicia's Keys 03:48 - The Grandeur 04:42 - The Maverick 05:20 - UVI Grand 06:06 - Ravenscroft 07:01 - Keyscape Great playing and thank you for the comparison!
There is something about the timbre of the Ravenscroft example that reminds me of a lot of classic jazz recordings where the piano sits forward in the mix. It may be the mic position used or the room size of the reverb, but the Ravenscroft appears to be the brightest sounding piano in this video.
Yea!,bro Mike I just got the Rhapsody by Waves,I'm a drummer using A Daw,Very very very Awsome piano playing bro!,I love listening to U just play man!U make a grown man cry!🤢😃,U Make those Pianos sound good!,with your Gifted playing,God bless U Much,I have to follow u now!!!
It's extremely tough to pick a winner out of these, because they all bring something slightly different to the table, and there are times where 'slightly different' is exactly what you need!
I've had Keyscape for a while now, and while having it paired with Omnisphere makes it the most versatile piano library out there, I recently took a liking to Alicia's Keys... It just has this charming balance between glassy brightness and weight on the lower keys that makes it sound more convincing somehow. But it's always interesting to see how widely people's opinions can differ on what a quality instrument can sound like; I've seen plenty of similar shootouts between various orchestral libraries and reverb plugins, and few people ever seem to agree on anything, lol.
uvi sounded ok to me. its almost up there with raven and keyscape but that keyscape make you want to do new stuff...lol...it breaks chains on the mind lol
Thank you. I have the three pianos from Native Instruments but not a fan of it. From what I hear about the Ravenscroft, seems to be the way to go for a piano vst.
I think you need to look into Synthogy Ivory Pianos. I have all of those that you auditioned except the Ravenscroft 275. Ivory beats them all in my opinion. Keyscape and Alicia Keys are very close, but Ivory sounds closer to the real thing to my ears. Really you can't go wrong with any of them, I'm just saying that there's a reason Ivory keeps coming up in the comparisons. You should definitely check it out when you are able.
Herbie said he would often play the rhodes with a vocalist as it didnt compete as much in the midrange. I would go the keyscape with vocals and the ravens in just a jazz trio gig. Oh and i would hire you for the gig, you play the best.
Thanks to your video i decided to buy the Ravenscroft 3 days ago and i am totally satisfied, if you want you can hear my last demos with differents settings (Etude de concert, Lado a lado, La violetera and People), regards!.
Hi John, first, you play really great! Second, my Grandeur i purchased early doesnt sound much full like yours. Especiallly from the mids to the highs. What could be wrong? I have a Steinberg audio-interface and settings are 512 Samples.
@@Johnmike hi Mike, thanks for your answer. I use a Kawai e-piano. I didnt thought that it could have something to do with key-response. I thought the quality of the samples could be the problem. To fix it for a better sound i combined it with an another piano vst which sounds better in the highs. Best wishes, Matthias
Great video John Mike, I own every one of these as well Except the UVI Grand. Ravenscroft 275 is the last one I got and it took me 3 days to get going. I was told that the standalone interface does not work with Sierra (Mac). And I am totally disappointed with it. It sounds like garbage. I will try to work on it but nothing like it sounds on this comparison video.
I don't know but I feel as if most gospel musicians who play keys like the Ravenscroft 275. Is it because it cuts through the mix or that it just a character that most don't have(it's brighter than most)?
Would you please play simple so we can heard more details about the pianos? Is pointless to go crazy on scales , we need to listen the different speeds and layers of such sounds.
Joseph Schneider I’ve learned it’s difficult to please everyone on the internet realm...if I play too simple you have those that say “hey it’s really too simple I want to hear someone really dig in and play some phat chords so I can see how it sounds” then if I play some nice phat warm chords and scales you have those that say “hey man you are playing too complicated” and then if I take the time and play both simple and complicated then the video is super long and folks then complain that the videos are too long ha ha! What’s a guy to do eh!? 🤷🏾♂️🤣
@@Johnmike Thanks John, is it possible to layer sounds with the ravenscroft 275? For example, can I layer ravenscroft 275, strings and tinker bell to make one sound either from studio one, mainstage 3 or logic?
+InChristForever jesusc11111 better with CPU...but not better with using multiple keyboards and midi mapping and all of that...I still prefer either mainstage or reason for live use
Okay so I’m confused. I’ve recently learned about Keyscape. So I’m planning to every Sunday at church. Is purchasing keyscape sufficient or do I need mainstage also? I’m not certain if these must go in conjunction with one another?
Wow nice comparison... How do you get the vst sound good? I have the same VST but the sound quality is different. Do you tweak any EQ in the DAW or any tips?
No I didn’t tweak anything for the video...but the way a VST sounds depends on a few things...the type of speakers they are coming out of...the type of mixer you may have...type of interface you are using...the type of cables you are using...the type of keyboard that you are using to play them...even the acoustics of the room that you are playing them in..so to get a good sound you have to get the right combination of all of these variables
@@JohnmikeI see..Thanks a lot, do low specs laptop generate poorer sound than the highers specs? I use printer cable to connect my digital piano to laptop, is it okay or do I have to change to a better cable?
Awesome playing! I have the Grandeur and I love it but no matter what I do it always distorts in small speakers (phone, tablet etc...) It doesn't matter if I EQ/Compress or do nothing, it ALWAYS distorts.... I'm using Cubase with a Steinberg interface, playing on a Korg Triton Extreme keyboard, at 96khz/32bit float... Do you or anyone else have any idea what could be wrong?
i hvae grandeur but never satisfied anymore after hearing pianoverse .....Theres no real piano like if it doesnt have different character to it....Noir Gradeur and others do sound alike until l heard pianoverse
Heard clicking and popping with UVI and Keyscape. Heard a skip with Ravenscroft. Am I right? That means memory will be an issue. I have Maschine w/ Komplete Ultimate on a MacBook Air. I known when my CPU is taking a hit. Roland Cloud is SO f******** taxing!!!! But I don’t want clicking and popping during a performance. Grandeur and its many presets are for me.
@@leepride7978 I have a laptop running Windows with similar specs. I haven't tried the Ravenscroft or Keyscape, but Grandeur runs fine. I only have issues with my slow 5400RPM hard drive. About Roland Cloud, I can run upto 8 instances of the JV-1080. Anything beyond that, the CPU suffers.
@@rhitosparsha I was running the 5080, D-50 and the Zen synth. I got Rhodes Affair 2 and never used the Roland stuff again. RA2 and the Triton used very little CPU. Whenever I used the Juno or the Jupiter my meter would jump to over half for just choosing it!! I’m about to get the Aurturia Suite. And I’ll upgrade to Komplete 13 after Thanksgiving. I already have tons of sounds I’m not even using or aware of. With those two having Roland Cloud will be unnecessary.
@@leepride7978 Haven't geard of Rhodes Affair 2. I can attest that the Triton VSTi uses much less CPU. Even the most complex Combis on the Triton use less CPU than simple patches on the XV-5080 and the JV-1080. And even though I don't have the full Arturia collection, I have Analog Lab 4. Apart from their Piano V2 instrument, all the other stuff has quite low CPU usage.
I came here for the comparisons, but stayed for your playing
Wow thanks!
03:00 - Alicia's Keys
03:48 - The Grandeur
04:42 - The Maverick
05:20 - UVI Grand
06:06 - Ravenscroft
07:01 - Keyscape
Great playing and thank you for the comparison!
Funny - I downloaded each of these and I still couldn't play like you... what's wrong with the VST??
🤣🤣🤣
There is something about the timbre of the Ravenscroft example that reminds me of a lot of classic jazz recordings where the piano sits forward in the mix. It may be the mic position used or the room size of the reverb, but the Ravenscroft appears to be the brightest sounding piano in this video.
Dude, you're playing is off the hook. Wow!
Thanks!! 🙏🏾
Yea!,bro Mike I just got the Rhapsody by Waves,I'm a drummer using A Daw,Very very very Awsome piano playing bro!,I love listening to U just play man!U make a grown man cry!🤢😃,U Make those Pianos sound good!,with your Gifted playing,God bless U Much,I have to follow u now!!!
It's extremely tough to pick a winner out of these, because they all bring something slightly different to the table, and there are times where 'slightly different' is exactly what you need!
KEYSCAPE WHEN IT CAME TO RUNS woooowww!!! It has that old jazz Art Tatum kind of sound that’s reaallly good.
+There is something special on the Maverick. I like this sound the most
me too, it has personality. The grandeur its just the classic grand piano (I own them both).
I agree
Agree
Agreed. It has a close sound to Eltons Piano on his Album Mad man across the water. Its in that ball park for me anyway.
I've had Keyscape for a while now, and while having it paired with Omnisphere makes it the most versatile piano library out there, I recently took a liking to Alicia's Keys... It just has this charming balance between glassy brightness and weight on the lower keys that makes it sound more convincing somehow. But it's always interesting to see how widely people's opinions can differ on what a quality instrument can sound like; I've seen plenty of similar shootouts between various orchestral libraries and reverb plugins, and few people ever seem to agree on anything, lol.
you play so well that the comparison is not easy, you could make a 1990s clavinova sound great :)
great job, I just added the ravens croft and am very happy, to me the middle is where lots of them are weak.
the body of keyscape and grandeur felt much more round and fluid.
Of course it's all about tweaking and like you said "feel"
Keyscape is the Cleanest in terms of Right hand movement and runs... #Killin
Agree, keyscape is awesome
uvi sounded ok to me. its almost up there with raven and keyscape but that keyscape make you want to do new stuff...lol...it breaks chains on the mind lol
Good stuff John, very informative of the basic sounds;-)
Thanks for this video. You play beautifully! Really talented.
Thank you
Thank you. I have the three pianos from Native Instruments but not a fan of it. From what I hear about the Ravenscroft, seems to be the way to go for a piano vst.
I think you need to look into Synthogy Ivory Pianos. I have all of those that you auditioned except the Ravenscroft 275. Ivory beats them all in my opinion. Keyscape and Alicia Keys are very close, but Ivory sounds closer to the real thing to my ears. Really you can't go wrong with any of them, I'm just saying that there's a reason Ivory keeps coming up in the comparisons. You should definitely check it out when you are able.
Which one you have? I'm thinking on buying the American D. I have mixed feelings about the grand pianos. Because I feel that one is too old now.
I would like keyscape but the cost is crazy, maybe i cam find a other one for house music
Yo Mike, Which Acoustic grand is that in UVI? They do a lot and just wondered what package that one came in? Thanks.
The last two examples sounded like the Price is Right theme song lol
+jonnyboy4music11 😂😂 didn’t think about that lol
Herbie said he would often play the rhodes with a vocalist as it didnt compete as much in the midrange. I would go the keyscape with vocals and the ravens in just a jazz trio gig. Oh and i would hire you for the gig, you play the best.
Wow thanks!
Such a nice playing
Thanks
Thanks to your video i decided to buy the Ravenscroft 3 days ago and i am totally satisfied, if you want you can hear my last demos with differents settings (Etude de concert, Lado a lado, La violetera and People), regards!.
I choosed the Keyscape... Alicia Keys ok. UVI grand also good. BTW you play very well!
🙏🏾🙏🏾
Alicia's Keys sounds best in my opinion. Ever heard the grand piano in a Roland GR 55? Its a Steinway and sounds good but not much sustain
Grandeur sounds the best
+Robbie Baxter one of my favorites
Alicia's Keys sound just a bit better
@@Johnmike agreed..i like bright pianos..clarity with realism..and thats what granduer out ofthe box has over aleicia keys piano.
UVI and Keyscape killing! i use and recomend
Alicia's Keys sound the best. Grandeur close second, almost same.
Which one would u say is better??
Keyscape piano, addictive keys, or noir
Keyscape is my favorite
Hi John,
first, you play really great!
Second, my Grandeur i purchased early doesnt sound much full like yours. Especiallly from the mids to the highs. What could be wrong?
I have a Steinberg audio-interface and settings are 512 Samples.
Could be the keyboard you are using...that has a lot to do with how the keyboard responds
@@Johnmike hi Mike, thanks for your answer. I use a Kawai e-piano. I didnt thought that it could have something to do with key-response. I thought the quality of the samples could be the problem.
To fix it for a better sound i combined it with an another piano vst which sounds better in the highs.
Best wishes,
Matthias
U r pretty good at those fancy chords progression.
Killing bro 👍👍
which midi keyboard are you using John? Great comparison video!!
MAUDIO Keystation 88
Great video John Mike, I own every one of these as well Except the UVI Grand. Ravenscroft 275 is the last one I got and it took me 3 days to get going. I was told that the standalone interface does not work with Sierra (Mac). And I am totally disappointed with it. It sounds like garbage. I will try to work on it but nothing like it sounds on this comparison video.
I don't know but I feel as if most gospel musicians who play keys like the Ravenscroft 275. Is it because it cuts through the mix or that it just a character that most don't have(it's brighter than most)?
+Tony Lancer the character and tone...feels better when you are just chording around...but I like the warmth that keyscape brings
beautiful
Do you do session work?
Awesome intro!
Would you please play simple so we can heard more details about the pianos? Is pointless to go crazy on scales , we need to listen the different speeds and layers of such sounds.
Joseph Schneider I’ve learned it’s difficult to please everyone on the internet realm...if I play too simple you have those that say “hey it’s really too simple I want to hear someone really dig in and play some phat chords so I can see how it sounds” then if I play some nice phat warm chords and scales you have those that say “hey man you are playing too complicated” and then if I take the time and play both simple and complicated then the video is super long and folks then complain that the videos are too long ha ha! What’s a guy to do eh!? 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Where are you playing all these VSTs from, is it from mainstage 3 or logic?
Studio one
@@Johnmike Thanks John, is it possible to layer sounds with the ravenscroft 275? For example, can I layer ravenscroft 275, strings and tinker bell to make one sound either from studio one, mainstage 3 or logic?
@@jazzkolo1582 You can! Just put the different instruments in different tracks and you're good to go.
@@rhitosparsha fab! Thank you
thx !
Ever heard of Cinesample's Piano in Blue. It sounds beautiful. It also only cost $99. Check it out if you can. It's being totally slept on.
+marqnmphs I’ve seen that one...I’ll check it out!
Yea that’s my favorite right now!!
Piano in Blue is nuts..what a VST.
I don’t know which one is the best.So i’m gonna download all of them😂
Yo hice varios versus entre pianos y me quedo con Keyscape :)
Can you do a video similar to this but for iOS piano apps? Comparing different apps.
Garixe Cancinos yes I have that coming soon! Just got a few more videos to work through
Awesome! Keep up the great work. Dope informative stuff
Maverick sounds the most neutral to me
Can you open UVI grand without a DAW?
Yes...UVI workstation works standalone
Hey bro, is studio better than Mainstage 3?
+InChristForever jesusc11111 better with CPU...but not better with using multiple keyboards and midi mapping and all of that...I still prefer either mainstage or reason for live use
where do you go to get the alicia keys piano and how much does it cost
Native Instruments website...if you google “Alicia Keys Piano” it should be the first link
Okay so I’m confused. I’ve recently learned about Keyscape. So I’m planning to every Sunday at church. Is purchasing keyscape sufficient or do I need mainstage also? I’m not certain if these must go in conjunction with one another?
Main stage would be useful but now necessary...but it’s only $30 if you want to grab it...you can run keyscape in any recording program
So what DAW would you suggest?
@@TBb____ logic
@@nash5753 is this what you run? Key scape and logic? Also what computer are you on?
@@TBb____ yess I use both keyscape and logic. I run it through my MacBook Pro 13inch
Wow nice comparison... How do you get the vst sound good? I have the same VST but the sound quality is different. Do you tweak any EQ in the DAW or any tips?
No I didn’t tweak anything for the video...but the way a VST sounds depends on a few things...the type of speakers they are coming out of...the type of mixer you may have...type of interface you are using...the type of cables you are using...the type of keyboard that you are using to play them...even the acoustics of the room that you are playing them in..so to get a good sound you have to get the right combination of all of these variables
@@JohnmikeI see..Thanks a lot, do low specs laptop generate poorer sound than the highers specs? I use printer cable to connect my digital piano to laptop, is it okay or do I have to change to a better cable?
Gary K what kinda computer do you have and what specs?
@@Johnmike AMD quadcore A10 7400 with 4 GB of RAM, how is it?
What I have is the best!
I have ...
Keyscape and ravenscroft are the best
limitations lol to me. you sounded like you was flying to heaven when you got on the keyscape lol
and ravenscroft
Very nice video!
Please:
💻🎹Addictive Keys?
💻🎹Sampletank 3 (piano expasions)?
💻🎹Synthogy Ivory?
📲🎹CMP Crudebyte Piano (white piano expansion)?
+Guinho Músico
I’ll Check these out
Ravenscroft was definitely my least favorite. The others were closer to each other.
Awesome playing! I have the Grandeur and I love it but no matter what I do it always distorts in small speakers (phone, tablet etc...) It doesn't matter if I EQ/Compress or do nothing, it ALWAYS distorts.... I'm using Cubase with a Steinberg interface, playing on a Korg Triton Extreme keyboard, at 96khz/32bit float... Do you or anyone else have any idea what could be wrong?
it could be the output of the floating part , just choose 32bit without or even 24 is still good
hey did you solve it?
i hvae grandeur but never satisfied anymore after hearing pianoverse .....Theres no real piano like if it doesnt have different character to it....Noir Gradeur and others do sound alike until l heard pianoverse
Heard clicking and popping with UVI and Keyscape. Heard a skip with Ravenscroft. Am I right? That means memory will be an issue. I have Maschine w/ Komplete Ultimate on a MacBook Air. I known when my CPU is taking a hit. Roland Cloud is SO f******** taxing!!!! But I don’t want clicking and popping during a performance. Grandeur and its many presets are for me.
What are your specs? Agree that all of the Roland Cloud stuff kills the CPU.
@@rhitosparsha MacBook Air i5; 1.8GHz; 8GBRam. I want to overlock this
@@leepride7978 I have a laptop running Windows with similar specs. I haven't tried the Ravenscroft or Keyscape, but Grandeur runs fine. I only have issues with my slow 5400RPM hard drive.
About Roland Cloud, I can run upto 8 instances of the JV-1080. Anything beyond that, the CPU suffers.
@@rhitosparsha I was running the 5080, D-50 and the Zen synth. I got Rhodes Affair 2 and never used the Roland stuff again. RA2 and the Triton used very little CPU. Whenever I used the Juno or the Jupiter my meter would jump to over half for just choosing it!! I’m about to get the Aurturia Suite. And I’ll upgrade to Komplete 13 after Thanksgiving. I already have tons of sounds I’m not even using or aware of. With those two having Roland Cloud will be unnecessary.
@@leepride7978 Haven't geard of Rhodes Affair 2. I can attest that the Triton VSTi uses much less CPU. Even the most complex Combis on the Triton use less CPU than simple patches on the XV-5080 and the JV-1080.
And even though I don't have the full Arturia collection, I have Analog Lab 4. Apart from their Piano V2 instrument, all the other stuff has quite low CPU usage.
In your words "It's pretty dope" LOL!!!
+marqnmphs 😂😂
Grandeur
Keyscape
cant tell shit with all this shredding.
keyscape beat them all by far