Perfect Attacking Game? | Ding vs Mamedyarov || Norway Chess (2019)

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  • @rashanoyel5324
    @rashanoyel5324 5 лет назад +130

    'It's not great to win the QUEEN if You're getting CHECKMATED'
    - AGADMATOR

    • @georgeray649
      @georgeray649 5 лет назад +1

      That is a powerful statement isn't

    • @lwaziselepe1765
      @lwaziselepe1765 5 лет назад +1

      Perfection😂

    • @Kobs.A
      @Kobs.A 5 лет назад

      Seems like a life statement to me XD,never fight for the queen if it comes to an ultimate loss

  • @Alex19781986
    @Alex19781986 5 лет назад +50

    Normal people:
    Play the 1st move randomly,
    being out of preparation from move two.

    • @barbaraGobert31
      @barbaraGobert31 5 лет назад +1

      In chess that's far from normal friend...

  • @julianrodriguez6032
    @julianrodriguez6032 5 лет назад +121

    Kinda figured it was a classical game since big shak was "strolling around the playing hall". SPOILERS!

    • @nebukanezer73
      @nebukanezer73 5 лет назад +10

      ... and no one blundered a bishop in the middle game. SPOILER!

  • @elaadt
    @elaadt 5 лет назад +31

    Sly move - memorize 20+ moves an engine makes in a known opening, hope that your opponent also memorized those and actually follows them, then use the 2nd best move to throw him off guard. Respect!

    • @Martin-qb2mw
      @Martin-qb2mw 5 лет назад +10

      Agree, it's a bit ridiculous but then again Ding also had to check-mate Mamedyarov after he blundered and that's something 99.9% of people who comment here cannot do. Memorising engine-lines is not the whole story.

    • @elaadt
      @elaadt 5 лет назад +2

      @@Martin-qb2mw I suspect that Ding actually prepared this line and had a few responses ready to take advantage of Mamedyarov's mistakes.
      Then again, maybe Ding figured out some of the moves during the game. Either way, he played a great game.

    • @davidxu9566
      @davidxu9566 5 лет назад +10

      Ding actually started thinking immediately after Mamedyarov's first mistake (22... e5). He didn't have any preparation to take advantage of that mistake. Most GMs don't bother preparing against bad moves, because there's way too many of them to prepare against. The goal of opening prep is to get a good position, but you still have to play it yourself from there.

    • @josephdestaubin7426
      @josephdestaubin7426 5 лет назад +7

      @@davidxu9566 I completely agree with your comment. That said, it's interesting that fisher once said that he doesn't study winning moves, he studed losing moves or losing games in order to better understand chess. This strategy kind of makes sense, because let's face it, he who makes the fewest errors usually wins the game. Apologies to Fisher as my rating doesn't exactly make me qualified to even comment.

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 5 лет назад +2

    My man, I love how you effortlessly point out engine moves and database moves, it must take you so much preparation but you post these videos so quickly. You are an amazing resource, thank you.

  • @rishantsharma3826
    @rishantsharma3826 5 лет назад +72

    You made my day agedmator
    You are an excellent youtuber

  • @NarendraMnr
    @NarendraMnr 5 лет назад +24

    "and then you have to go a nice walk with your king" 😂 ... Can't stop laughing

  • @chrispicard3168
    @chrispicard3168 5 лет назад +1

    I can't be the only one who noticed how smoothly Agad pronounced the first name in the donors list. It sounded terrific. Well done!!

  • @blitzkriegbeast8021
    @blitzkriegbeast8021 5 лет назад +25

    The Return of King Ding, by J. R. R. Agadmator

  • @Giltr0y
    @Giltr0y 5 лет назад +31

    Engines ruined the magic of chess. I love when a player surprises his opponent (like in the Alireza Firouzja vs Murali Karthikeyan game with the queen sacrifice), because that way the players actually need to think and show their skill instead of a memory test.

    • @hillsideonly
      @hillsideonly 5 лет назад +2

      Although aesthetically pleading, In a position that's been played hundreds of times, A Queen sacrifice to continue as a new game doesn't sound like on the board discovery to me, Must have been some preparation behind it however small, Still Murali played a good game that I agree

    • @mathieumontin639
      @mathieumontin639 5 лет назад +5

      no offense but your comment is irrelevant in my opinion. Engines just make the game start on move 10 or 20 instead of at move 1, the players still have to fully play alone from that point on. I'm also surprised to read such a comment because agad always makes sure we know when the "actual" game starts or when he thinks that home preparation ends at some point.

  • @LuxTheSlav
    @LuxTheSlav 5 лет назад +28

    8:02 I think you should have mentioned that the black knight on E5 isn't hanging, even though it looks that way, because of a trap (Qxe5, Bf5* and the white queen is lost).

    • @robfaktor7036
      @robfaktor7036 5 лет назад +5

      Luka Pavlič I came to the comment section hoping somebody had explained this exact moment because I didn't see how it wasn't hanging. Thank you

  • @charlesp9090
    @charlesp9090 5 лет назад +3

    13:30 That last Checkmate trap is really vicious!

  • @Toothmother
    @Toothmother 5 лет назад +7

    6:09 "Completely New Game Begins!"
    12:10 sip of water

  • @ssbhide123
    @ssbhide123 5 лет назад +8

    Who needs notification when you have made it a routine to see the videos daily..

  • @IndigoBassNotes
    @IndigoBassNotes 5 лет назад +3

    A blunder at the end of known theory is common due to a few things.
    A. The game is likely complex position with many or most pieces active.
    B. The correct path becomes more and more narrow as false paths ( I.e. the evolution of theory ) have been eliminated .
    Perhaps the big mistake was not to use a large piece of time to find the needle in the haystack inside the giant tree of analysis.

  • @vladimirchesslike1200
    @vladimirchesslike1200 5 лет назад +5

    interesting analysis of the party, thank you

  • @NikushaGabedava
    @NikushaGabedava 5 лет назад +1

    Good video. The only guy who just analysis fast and gives the necessary info.

  • @toodle361
    @toodle361 5 лет назад +33

    Maybe a mini analysis video of Grischuk blundering a bishop against Caruana??

    • @furkankarakaya26
      @furkankarakaya26 5 лет назад +5

      Why does it need an analysis, its just an unlucky blunder

  • @06kiely
    @06kiely 5 лет назад +4

    Massive credit to the organisers of this tournament. A draw going to Armageddon has been absolutely fantastic, brilliant tournament. Absolutely fantastic 🙂

    • @oatmilkplays
      @oatmilkplays 5 лет назад +1

      Gives the players an actual incentive to attack and win. Not just "not lose"

  • @rkrmtest
    @rkrmtest 5 лет назад +3

    Not only the game is so wonderful, also is your explanation!

  • @projectxk3300
    @projectxk3300 5 лет назад +11

    Did watch one of your first video. What an improvement. You seem completely another man the way you handle the show. You re a RUclips rockstar now! Great job.

    • @barbaraGobert31
      @barbaraGobert31 5 лет назад

      More like a worldwide star and one of the most important ambassadors for the game in recent memory.Well deserved hard work definitely paid off in this case!

  • @christhurley993
    @christhurley993 5 лет назад +1

    "Capture, capture, capture!" Nothing I'd rather hear at 4am! The highlight of my day and night!

  • @PUBGNOOB26
    @PUBGNOOB26 5 лет назад

    Man i want to tell you that i was having problem falling asleep, but ever since i started watching your videos, every time i watch them i fall asleep. Thank bro.

  • @tommylincoln8006
    @tommylincoln8006 5 лет назад +20

    would be fascinating to have a fischerrandom/chess960 tournament, as he really had a good point with how theory changes the game!

    • @TomSmith-mv9uj
      @TomSmith-mv9uj 5 лет назад +4

      The chess960 world championship is starting soon

    • @barbaraGobert31
      @barbaraGobert31 5 лет назад

      Not so fascinating,Magnus will win.I'm not a fan not boy but after watching the gentleman play all sorts of chess the last ten years he is clearly the best in the world from around she 17.

  • @ikemarcaida6437
    @ikemarcaida6437 5 лет назад +1

    Great job, truly educational and entertaining at the same time

  • @vladavasiljev
    @vladavasiljev 5 лет назад +9

    Brutal precision, reminds me of Fisher at his best.

    • @kasparov9
      @kasparov9 5 лет назад

      I'm hoping Ding wins the candidates next year to challenge Carlsen.

    • @Posiadam.
      @Posiadam. 5 лет назад

      kasparov9 Carlsen would crush him like he did several times in the past ;)

    • @kasparov9
      @kasparov9 5 лет назад

      Nah Carlsen has never beat Ding in classical in 6 games, Ding is very strong, I'd love to see a WCC match between them. Ding also hardly ever loses, he's very hard to beat.@@Posiadam.

    • @salmarwow
      @salmarwow 5 лет назад

      Both are better than Fisher, yes.

    • @salmarwow
      @salmarwow 5 лет назад

      @@kasparov9 Ding is strong, Mamedyarov is strong. Caruana is very strong, too. In fact, he outperformed both of them in the last challenger tournament. And there is a reason why Caruana is number 2 in the ratings. Yet, even then Caruana had only draws with Carlsen. If you look at the ratings only, Mamedyarov is far from being the best atm.

  • @vincent5318
    @vincent5318 5 лет назад +6

    Agadmator’s Chess Channel is my drug of choice.

  • @mathew96385296
    @mathew96385296 5 лет назад +1

    The commentary in this video was awesome. ... Also, I can't wait to help you celebrate 500,000 subscribers! Coming soon!

  • @Dullyboy
    @Dullyboy 5 лет назад +1

    Nice Minnie Mouse glass at #12:10

  • @zastupenievlastnikov2314
    @zastupenievlastnikov2314 5 лет назад +1

    Perhaps it was worth to analyze the Qc4 by black (in the final position). It took me a while to find the winning reply for white (Rxg3+). But i have no engine so there are maybe also another options. Also to show that there is no perpetual for black after Bxa2+

  • @nishantintouch
    @nishantintouch 5 лет назад +2

    “Captures here captures there.. capture capture.”
    Lol 😎

  • @sambowie4989
    @sambowie4989 5 лет назад +5

    Why didn't they just start at move 21? Ding:"c'mon, Shakhriyar, let's put this position on the board, so we don't have to pretend that we are playing chess for 21 moves."

    • @hardikho
      @hardikho 5 лет назад +2

      Because then people would just memorize 30 moves following that lul

  • @baptistebauer99
    @baptistebauer99 5 лет назад +2

    It is simply so hard to beat Ding. When he doesn't draw, he wins. I keep my prediction that he will be the next world champ'.

  • @motamedn
    @motamedn 5 лет назад

    What about QC4 in the final position instead of rxf6? Threatens the undefended queen and capturing would relieve the threat to the bishop? Answer: rxg6+ qh8# if captures or qd8# if kd8
    My point is sometimes these subtleties should be pointed out. Any patzer would immediately exclude rxf6 immediately as a candidate move.

  • @krushgroovin7513
    @krushgroovin7513 5 лет назад +5

    So I will pause the video and say thank You for the notification issues while I take a sip of my water 💦 and now back to the video!!!

    • @michaelwill7811
      @michaelwill7811 5 лет назад

      And in this position, Krush blundered away the game as Agadmator had a *nice* sip of water. Unfortunately, his king will now have to go for a nice walk...

    • @krushgroovin7513
      @krushgroovin7513 5 лет назад

      Michael Will
      My O My .. at least it was a “nice” blundered sip of water causing a “furder” ding to my ego!
      😂 😆 😂

  • @alireda22
    @alireda22 5 лет назад +4

    #suggestion cover the armageddon game between Maxime-vashier Lagrave and Grischuk there's a wonderful move a6

  • @oliverangermuller9827
    @oliverangermuller9827 5 лет назад +1

    What a brilliant game by Ding. I would like to see him challenging Carlsen. He has no fear!

  • @matt_byrne
    @matt_byrne 5 лет назад +2

    when you're 3 for 3 on figuring out which move to play, it's a great day

  • @ogorangeduck
    @ogorangeduck 5 лет назад +1

    Yay description doesn't even spoil the time format!

  • @michaeljanapin9528
    @michaeljanapin9528 5 лет назад +3

    This is the second time Ding preserved his Bishop Pair. It reminded me of AlphaZero’s Bishop Pair from Hell.

  • @johnmark4228
    @johnmark4228 5 лет назад

    @8:08 isn't the knight hanging? Is there a counterplay for black as he gives up the knight?

  • @plalezar
    @plalezar 5 лет назад

    @7:58 White Queen can capture the knight on D5 & be a piece up so what's the idea for black!?

  • @vangogh2794
    @vangogh2794 5 лет назад +16

    I miss seeing knight moves in 1080p and 60fps☹️

    • @HD-pe8lv
      @HD-pe8lv 5 лет назад

      Just change the setting, use the gear below the video and select the highest definition

  • @rubiksfan321
    @rubiksfan321 5 лет назад

    At 7:28 after ...bxe5 why can't white respond with b4? Rook has to go back to c6 or c8 and white will win Black's bishop on e5? What am I missing?

  • @Requinix17
    @Requinix17 5 лет назад

    I love the sip of "water" in all the videos. Agad really savors that water :D

  • @adamrubinson6875
    @adamrubinson6875 5 лет назад +1

    Brutal game. Excellent opening preperation

  • @mojo_jojo913
    @mojo_jojo913 5 лет назад

    13:06 white can actually play r1 to d8 and after q×r8 white captures the bishop on e6 and with the continuation it's winning for white

  • @matheo1231
    @matheo1231 5 лет назад +1

    #suggestion
    Julio Ernesto Granda Zuniga Vs Yasser Seirawan Crazy attacking game..

  • @richardfeynman5560
    @richardfeynman5560 5 лет назад +3

    Beating Mamedyarov in great style is really an unforgetable achievement!

    • @nrspinelli
      @nrspinelli 5 лет назад

      in "great style"? You mean be memorizing engine lines and using a line his opponent didn't happen to memorize? I'd call that straight up boring.

  • @davedavidson4762
    @davedavidson4762 5 лет назад

    Oh and great video as usual agamator .

  • @maanavpatel7308
    @maanavpatel7308 5 лет назад +1

    #suggestion: the classical game between Caruana and Anand from the same round was great

  • @Vahe345
    @Vahe345 5 лет назад

    8:58 why do you have to block the h file why not fork the rooks with the knight check is blocked by the rook on h7?

  • @kamon9339
    @kamon9339 5 лет назад +4

    So Agadmator sorry if you already answered that question but what exactly did you do when working at Google?

  • @marsaspen-murray3797
    @marsaspen-murray3797 5 лет назад +3

    If you can hear a whooshing sound it is this game going over my head.

  • @real_anil9688
    @real_anil9688 5 лет назад +1

    12:37 Rook, bishop, rook. So many snacks, so little time.

  • @josemanuelpaulinorosario7226
    @josemanuelpaulinorosario7226 5 лет назад +1

    First time I catch a video 10 minutes after being uploaded! I feel I am excellent subscriber.

  • @cryso7508
    @cryso7508 5 лет назад +1

    Perfectly analyzed, thanks a lot! :)

  • @samicheikhelchabab9120
    @samicheikhelchabab9120 5 лет назад

    On 11.36 what about after white plays D7, black replies with rook captures D7?

  • @flyingfishy1584
    @flyingfishy1584 3 года назад

    00:14 Guess whether it's a classical or Armageddon game.
    13:23 Mamedyarov strolling around the playing hall.
    Me: Ok, of course it's a classical game :))

  • @vladansaula7937
    @vladansaula7937 5 лет назад

    Agadmator... I think the analysis after Rf2 is not so good. Because you said that the white has no compensation for sacrificed bishop, but there is mate in 3. After Rf2, (on 5:30) then white can play Qh7+, then black can play with his king at only one free square and that is Kf8, and after that white can sacrifice a queen at Qh8 and after bishop takes queen, rook takes bishop and that is checkmate...

  • @gabrielmillee8745
    @gabrielmillee8745 5 лет назад

    Thanks for your beautiful commentary

  • @SetoKaibaVd
    @SetoKaibaVd 5 лет назад

    At 13:19
    Why not bishop f5 with check?

  • @MsYann34
    @MsYann34 5 лет назад

    what happens if black bishop retreat to d5? Don't see the continuation there @agadmator

  • @DerMig590
    @DerMig590 5 лет назад

    Love the deep theory gotcha tricks 👍

  • @clashwithkowalski7690
    @clashwithkowalski7690 5 лет назад

    At 15:00 why is the bishop lost? You can just move it anywhere since your rook is defended by king

    • @pggodlike4903
      @pggodlike4903 5 лет назад +1

      If bishop moves ...Then Rxg6+ Kf8(since if...hxg6, then Qh8+#), Bb4+ Ke8 and Rg8+ loses Black the queen...Black does not even have Rf1+ checkmate cos White has Rc1.

    • @UNHAZEABLE
      @UNHAZEABLE 5 лет назад +1

      Clash with Kowalski because Rxg6+, kf8, Bb4+, Ke8, Rg8+, Kd7, Qg4+... wins the queen and checkmate soon to follow

    • @clashwithkowalski7690
      @clashwithkowalski7690 5 лет назад

      Ok thanks guys

  • @oyvind-8557
    @oyvind-8557 5 лет назад

    Thank you once again for increasing our vast knowledge

  • @AdamSKadir
    @AdamSKadir 5 лет назад

    14:42 what would have happened if Mamedyarov would play bishop to e5 or e6?

    • @sadas3190
      @sadas3190 5 лет назад

      Black loses the rook or queen to Rxg6+. Pxg6 is not possible otherwise Qh8++. Rg7 obviously loses the rook. Kf8 is replied with the beautiful Qb4+ - Rook is pinned, Queen block just loses the queen, Ke8 is met with Rf8 skewering the Queen anyway.

  • @ivanpetrovski9009
    @ivanpetrovski9009 5 лет назад +1

    You should slecet ringbell,next to subscribed button. Then you will get notifications.

  • @futuregmchess1561
    @futuregmchess1561 3 года назад +1

    But what if on move 34 Shakhriyar plays Bd5 guarding the rook twice and getting the bishop out of harm's way?

  • @maciejstepnik4270
    @maciejstepnik4270 5 лет назад +3

    Only the excellent subscribers watch your videos in 360p just after the upload!

    • @ferociouspterodactyl520
      @ferociouspterodactyl520 5 лет назад

      I checkmated as fast as I could ;p

    • @maciejstepnik4270
      @maciejstepnik4270 5 лет назад

      @Oissev Onos As long as you watch 360p if only you can, and otherwise, watch the video as long as you're done with your other obligations, you're an excellent subscriber too!

  • @MrMilosv
    @MrMilosv 5 лет назад +1

    This game is showing that due to engines, chess became a game of memory and not a game of strategy. 95% of the game is preparation of engine lines.. As soon as they are out of preparation, their game quality drops too much. Of course the exception to some players goes, but still I think that chess 960 is the only chess type that makes sense today.. As always great coverage of the game, you are an excellent youtuber :)

  • @pabloAT98
    @pabloAT98 5 лет назад

    You just gotta love Ding. Look at that man's face

  • @kamranabbasi6757
    @kamranabbasi6757 5 лет назад +1

    Sir please always do mention whether the game is classical or not at the start, in classical games I like to setup chessboard while watching your video, in between I pause the video and analyze the positions ... So sir please mention it at start or atleast in description box....
    Thank-you for your videos...

    • @truthmoneyfreedom1584
      @truthmoneyfreedom1584 5 лет назад +2

      I like to know too .... we couldn't even check in the description this time either.

  • @fiestapais
    @fiestapais 5 лет назад

    Does any one know what database Agad refers to in his commentary? Does he use chessbase? Or an online database? Something else? I'd like to know!

  • @danrezende7394
    @danrezende7394 5 лет назад

    At 8:03, why can't you capture the knight on e5?

    • @Robert_DeVille
      @Robert_DeVille 5 лет назад +1

      You can, but if Qxe5, then Bf6 check & white loses the queen

  • @dmythica
    @dmythica 5 лет назад

    Awesome, thank you!!

  • @davedavidson4762
    @davedavidson4762 5 лет назад

    Off topic. I apologize, but is the engine at chess2700 weak? Is the 2200 rating level comparatively weak? Thanks

  • @mstfici2685
    @mstfici2685 5 лет назад +4

    When you say "engine recommendation", what engine do you mean?

  • @franciscohamlin7544
    @franciscohamlin7544 5 лет назад

    What you said at 13:23 kinda gives away the time format haha

  • @latazanwar4377
    @latazanwar4377 5 лет назад +4

    Hey agadmator, let's have a chess 960 tournament on lichess
    No opening theories, no preparations, pure creativity
    Let's get this comment loads of like so that we can have one such tournament

    • @lwaziselepe1765
      @lwaziselepe1765 5 лет назад +1

      At our (Agad fans) level of chess, there's no need to worry over opening theory or preparation:-)

  • @selomoi8133
    @selomoi8133 5 лет назад

    you are the highlight of my day bro

  • @healthydoseofpersonas
    @healthydoseofpersonas 5 лет назад +1

    Hey agad, do Rellstab vs Bogoljubov 1940... Outstanding move.

  • @ergodic59
    @ergodic59 5 лет назад

    @12:16: how about bxG6 ?

  • @jamjar4989
    @jamjar4989 5 лет назад +1

    Damn was really hoping it was armageddon and Shak just got up and started walking around

  • @gillrowley7264
    @gillrowley7264 5 лет назад

    With regards to notifications, since I am an excellent subscriber, your channel is in my left side channels menu. I just click on your channel and then just enjoy the show. No notifications necessary.

  • @ChessSerbia
    @ChessSerbia 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic video Antonio

    • @rubenlazell3003
      @rubenlazell3003 5 лет назад

      you haven't watched it yet ahahha

    • @ChessSerbia
      @ChessSerbia 5 лет назад

      @@rubenlazell3003 hi . I am United's fan

  • @mikehunt6256
    @mikehunt6256 5 лет назад +5

    21 memorized moves to start the game. Caruana is desperately trying to waistband it 😂

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 5 лет назад

      still on memorized moves on 22 really, response on 22 ends it

  • @ComboSmooth
    @ComboSmooth 5 лет назад

    its pretty easy to tell from what moves they make if its classical or armageddon. If they make a move that i would make, it must mean they are in time trouble.

  • @suhailclasher6549
    @suhailclasher6549 5 лет назад

    I was going to sleep but but
    Suddenly..
    I got a notification of ur video 1am 😃

  • @ahmedwaheed3153
    @ahmedwaheed3153 5 лет назад +2

    I guess Capablanca in his early days would definitely get into time trouble with this game

    • @roberthansen5727
      @roberthansen5727 5 лет назад

      @Oissev Onos eh, Capablanca may be more creative than your average grandmaster but his play was objectively less precise than the top masters of today. He made quite a few blunders in his championship match against Alekhine, for instance, and the latest world championship was just on another level.

  • @LorazepamMC
    @LorazepamMC 5 лет назад

    13:22 'As Ding was playing this move, Mamedyarov was strolling around the playing hall.'
    Yea I guess this wasn't Armageddon :)

  • @nicolashrv
    @nicolashrv 5 лет назад +1

    Ding wanted to trick Mamedyarov by playing the 2nd engine best move.........Mamedyarov wanted to trick Ding by playing the worst movement possible.

  • @LeeKuanYew_
    @LeeKuanYew_ 5 лет назад

    0:15 I didn’t watch the end but with is I know it’s à Classical game 😜

  • @majhnicudovitisvet
    @majhnicudovitisvet 5 лет назад

    what about Qd6 instead of Qh4?

  • @syedhosneyjahab1941
    @syedhosneyjahab1941 5 лет назад

    After Rf6 why not just move the bishop from b3 to safety and continue??

    • @jnjbloom
      @jnjbloom 5 лет назад

      I had that same thought, but it looks like Rxg6 wins.

  • @gabeft95
    @gabeft95 5 лет назад

    Hi Agadmator please do a video on Macleod attack

  • @madhusoftech
    @madhusoftech 5 лет назад

    Nice game. Sometimes the Video is not in sync with Audio. Do we need to do something?

  • @georgeray649
    @georgeray649 5 лет назад

    Superb game👌

  • @newday6222
    @newday6222 4 года назад

    Amazing

  • @spling
    @spling 5 лет назад

    What an amazing game!