Scarpa T2 Eco 75 mm Telemark Boot, 2nd Season Update
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- This is my second season skiing the Scarpa T2 Eco 75 mm telemark boot. The boot has exceeded my expectations. Most of the time, I ski in leather 3 pin boots, but when the terrain is steep or difficult, a plastic boot offers extra downhill control. Last season I struggled getting the boot on and off at the trailhead. I solved that problem this season by switching socks and removing the laces from the boot liner.
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Skiing: (4:03)
Another tip for getting on your boots easier in cold mornings .....On the way to trail head as I drive there I put my boots on the truck floor under the heater vent , the heat softens up the plastic and liner making a effortless foot insert .... I use my old Scarpa low cuff T-3s with my old Karhu skis on mellow rolling terrain , and when I get serious and drop steeper terrain in in my Scarpa T-2X boots ....both boots fit super well and light . Ok thanks for the video and keep them coming I really enjoy them all !!
Great tips, and thanks for watching.
Yes, I hear you about trying to get them on. I tried a pr. or T1's (bumblebees). I couldn't even get the liner out to access the liner laces.. And they were so heavy...! I hated them and sold them. I have not tried a T2.
For my T3's and my T4's, I use a Garmont Excursion foam liner with the power strap at the top.
I am glad to say I have had no problems with blisters...thank god. I do use an orthotic which might help take up excess space for a better fit...maybe..? and socks t help fit...thicker for the T4's and thinner for the T3's.---Cold weather and warmer weather
For my double leathers, I use the original T3 liner which fits in my Merrill leather shells really well and is much warmer in the leathers than they ever were in the T3's. And again, no blisters...thank god.
Great review. I love my T2 Ecos. Perfect boot for long all day tours and steep terrain. Plenty of power for big skis and super comfortable. Best 75mm boot out there for touring.
My only complaint was the three warranty claims on the ski walk mech. The ski walk bar would go past the stop when touring. Ski mode still worked but Scarpa ended up replacing the mech and tour bar 3 separate times. At the end of this season I have to send the boots back again for the 4th repair!
Another complaint is the stock liners are not available to purchase by public. Once the liners are packed out your only option for tongue liner is the Intition Pro tours which have a way taller cuff. I have those and they work fine and give a little more power. I had the pro tour wrap as well but they are better suited for my t1s.
Thanks for the heads-up on the ski walk bar and the liners. I'll be sure to post an update if I run into the same issues.
What a great run at the end. It's June and I can't wait for snow.
Lets hope next year is a great snow year. Thanks for tuning in and enjoy your summer.
I just picked up a pair of these up secondhand on your recommendation (or maybe the older version). I live on the west coast of Norway and the terrain is hilly and never flat. Still proper downhill BC skies are overkill here generally as the mountains generally lower than 1000moh and we do not see so much powder being so close to the ocean. So I intend to use these with a traditional touring ski and hope that it helps on the downhills but are still forgiving on the flatter sections. Thanks for the content :)
I hope they work out for you. I use mine mostly for steep and difficult downhill tours and my leather boots when mobility is more important than downhill control. I appreciate the feedback and thanks for tuning in.
Hi Tom, thanks for this great review! I will have to buy new boots for the next season and I'm really balancing between the T4 and T2 Eco...I would like to ask you a question that might help me to make the good choice here. If you have to go for a day of backcountry skiing with long approaches (5-6 km), which one will you take? T4 or T2 Eco ? Thanks for your help again 👍
Hi Julien. The two boots are very different in weight and skiing performance. The T4 is a great boot, but they just don't agree with my feet, and I was never able to resolve my blister problems. I skied two generations of the T4's but I could not use them on long distance tours. For years I was reluctant to try the T2. It just did not make sense to me that a beefier and heavier boot would solve my blister issue, but it did. That being said, I would always prefer to ski the lightest gear that is appropriate for the conditions. The T4's have ample power for most moderate terrain and I think it is a good choice if you can get a good fit. The T2's are more powerful than the T4's, so if you are planning to ski difficult terrain, then the T2's would be a better choice. Lots of people have no issues with the T4 and the person who ended up with my last version told me that he was very happy with them.
@@tomm9850 Ok Yeah, I forgot about your blisters issue, just curious to know where was that friction point with your T4? I’ve got wide feet and I’m wondering if would have more room with the T2 Eco?
My blister issue was in a very unusual location, on the side of the foot under the pointy ankle bone. It was worse with my first set of T4's as the liners were not heat moldable. When Scarpa came out with a revised boot (2016 ?), I gave them a try as well. They were an improvement, but I still had blister issues, even with the new heat moldable liner. On my T4's I tried all kinds insole and sock combinations and two different sized boots (27 and 28). I called the T4's my 4 mile boots because that is about all the further I could ski them without blisters. If it was a longer tour, I'd stop and change my socks to a dry pair at the four mile mark and that would help but not solve the problem. After I sold the boots, someone told me that the ezeefit ankle socks would help www.amazon.com/Ezeefitsports-Ankle-Bootie-2mm-Small/dp/B00U9UQ2EO/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Ezeefitsports&qid=1646770270&sr=8-2 but by that time I had moved on to the T2's. My T2's are size 27.5. Over on the telemarktalk forum, lowangle al has posted that many of the problems can be solved by trimming the tongue. He is a big fan of the T4, so you might touch base with him.
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@@tomm9850 Well thanks so much for all the good information you have given me here, it's well appreciated! The “4 miles boots” was a good one! 😂👍
Thanks for posting Tom, wondering if you've ever tried on the Garmont/Scott excursion boots and could comment on the fit compared to the T4?
I bought a pair of Scott Excursion boots in size 27.5 last December, but I sent them back because they seemed a bit snug. I felt that I needed to try on a set of 28's to be sure, but none were available. My T2's are 27.5. I previously skied Scarpa T4's, the old version at 27.5, and the newer version with heat moldable liners at 27. I loved everything about the T4's, I just couldn't solve my blister fit problems. I purchased the Excursions from the Outdoor Gear Exchange and could not return them after using them, so my only experience with them was inside the house. One thing that did surprise me was the weight. They were heavier than I expected. On Scott's site, the specs list a single boot weight at 1075 grams for size 26.5. The pair I received were much heavier. I don't recall the exact weight, but it was more than 1400 grams. The Excursions became pretty scarce mid winter, so it makes me wonder if they have stopped making them. One could only hope that Scarpa and Scott would offer us a new and improved design, but I wouldn't hold my breath. They have made great advances in recent years for lightweight AT boots. There have been some rumors about a new boot and lightweight telemark/backcountry binding system under development, but nothing official.
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Thanks for that. I have the opposite problem in that my feet are very narrow (A/B width). Too bad about the T4 blistering that is frustrating!. I will keep an eye on any new lightweight developments though I think I will be trying some Alfa nnnbc boots probably next season it seems now. I was holding out hope they would make the narrower women's model in 43, but alas they said no. So, I may try to create a mini "heel bootie" if the expected looseness is there
Hey Tom. I really love your content. Beautiful scenery, great tips and all about enjoying to ski and being outside.
I'm a long time cross country skier and recently got my hands on some second hand telemark skis (K2 Sidestash) that i plan to use for touring. The only "problem" is that there is no walk function on the binding (it's a Rottefella Chilli). Do you have any experience using a "fixed" binding for touring? How much of a difference would you say having a walk function does?
PS: I was thinking about welding a hinge to the front part of the binding to make my own "walk function", it wouldn't be as fancy as the modern 75mm bindings, but it's an interesting idea.
What boot are you going to use with the Chilli? Do you plan to use this setup mostly for downhill focused tours? I've never skied the chilli, but I do ski the Voile 3 pin Cable Traverse and the Voile Switchback bindings. Of the two Voile's, I suspect that the Chilli would feel much like the 3 pin with the cable. The big difference between the Chilli and the Voile 3 pin cable is that you can ski the Voile 3 pin without the cable. When I'm skiing my leather boots, I prefer to ski without the cables attached. The free pivot on the Switchback binding is a great feature for long sustained climbs, especially steeper climbs, when using a heel riser and a beefy plastic boot. The free pivot doesn't add much if using a leather or lower cut plastic boot like the Excursion or T4. I think it would be difficult to modify the Chilli to allow for free pivot. If you add a hinge, you will have to figure out how to lock the toe down to the ski for the downhill mode. The binding also needs a very secure attachment to the ski as aggressive telemark turns can put a lot of force on the attachment. My recommendation would be to try out your boot/binding combination as is, to see how well it works for you, and my gut feeling is that if you want or need a free pivot mode, to install a new binding with that feature.
Hello Tom, I’m from Chile, I have just bought one pair of SCARPA T2 Eco Telemark , they are on the way. one question, it has a place for attaching a leash?
Nice reviews in your videos!!
Yes. There is a small rectangular ring attachment point on the lowest buckle. It is hard to see in Scarpa's photos because it blends in with the buckle wire, but you can see it if you look closely www.scarpa.com/t2-eco The T2's are a great boot, not too stiff but with ample support for telemark.
Do you still have the boot and are you still happy with them?
I have to buy new boots online because there are no ski stores in my country that have telemark gear so I'm pretty nervous about it. :)
The T2's are my favorite plastic boots for backcountry downhill telemark skiing. They are comfortable on the climb and offer me enough support to power my Voile V6's skis (98 mm underfoot). If you get a good fit, I don't think you will be disappointed.