1987 World Figure Skating Championships - Ladies Free Skate

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • Claudia Leistner FRG
    Kira Ivanova URS
    Caryn Kadavy USA
    Elizabeth Manley CAN
    Debi Thomas USA
    Katarina Witt GDR

Комментарии • 48

  • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
    @user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад +4

    Debi, Karen and Katarina were exceptional this Competition.

  • @abyss51
    @abyss51 4 месяца назад +1

    Apparently some people still suffer from the fact that Katarina was the queen of the ice in her time. I was happy to be able to watch the American competition TV show here again. Back then, I was sitting in front of the television as a love-struck teenager in East Germany. Thanks for uploading.

    • @Brissieskater1
      @Brissieskater1 21 день назад

      It must have been rather interesting to be in East Germany when the borders were opened and the Berlin wall came down.

  • @PerAllwin1963
    @PerAllwin1963 9 месяцев назад +5

    The U.S. judge gives Debi Thomas a 5.9 for technical merit, yet Thomas two-foots her triple loop, and gives Katarina Witt a 5.8 for technical merit though Witt lands her triple loop cleanly and has a perfect performance?? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @martinpascoe7678
      @martinpascoe7678 6 месяцев назад

      your point being?????

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f 4 месяца назад +1

      And...... KATARINA skated the EASIEST TRIPLE JUMP COMBINATION of ALL the Women Competitors and Still WON the Technical/SHORT PROGRAM. What were the Judges "seeing"?

    • @kerstinrieck3648
      @kerstinrieck3648 4 месяца назад +1

      Was reden Sie für einen Blödsinn? Im Kurzprogramm sind die Sprünge vorgegeben.

    • @victoriagill3337
      @victoriagill3337 Месяц назад

      @@martinpascoe7678umm blatant favouritism perhaps?

    • @rekr3316
      @rekr3316 Месяц назад

      @Kerstin: nein, nur der eine Sprung der Sprungkombination war vorgegeben, den zweiten konnten die Läufer frei wählen. 1987 war für das Kurzprogramm der Doppel-Toeloop vorgegeben. Kadavy sprang 3Rittberger-2Toeloop, Thomas sprang 2Toeloop-3Toeloop und Witt sprang 3Toeloop-2Toeloop.

  • @franktorres2718
    @franktorres2718 7 месяцев назад +2

    Debbie is The REAL Winner🖤👑

    • @kerstinrieck3648
      @kerstinrieck3648 4 месяца назад

      DEBBY lief schrechlich. Technisch gut aber mit einem Fehler, aber künstlerisch wie ein Stück Holz.

    • @rekr3316
      @rekr3316 Месяц назад

      With errors in both, the short and the long program? Come on…😂

    • @arz9163
      @arz9163 Месяц назад

      Debbie two footed two of her jumps. Katarina none.

  • @franktorres2718
    @franktorres2718 7 месяцев назад

    Denise Biellmann 👑

  • @martinpascoe7678
    @martinpascoe7678 6 месяцев назад

    Manley certainly had the last laugh

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f 4 месяца назад +2

      Not really. Liz NEVER WON a Worlds or Olympic Championship. She just had one good night in Calgary.

    • @victoriagill3337
      @victoriagill3337 Месяц назад

      Not here she didn’t

  • @PerAllwin1963
    @PerAllwin1963 9 месяцев назад +5

    Donald Trump helped Debi Thomas, her coach says. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @gaelgarciabernal2434
    @gaelgarciabernal2434 3 года назад +6

    The American judges were notorious for playing the strategy game in a way that adversely affected their own skaters. Tiffany Chin at the 1984 Olympics was much better than Roslyn Sumners and the American judge looked the other way. Here, Caryn Kadavy was better than Debbie Thomas. Guess what? The US judge ranked Thomas first, lol!

    • @victoriagill3337
      @victoriagill3337 2 года назад +3

      With a blatant 2 foot landing on the 3Lo 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @MrAntoniocanada2002
      @MrAntoniocanada2002 2 года назад

      Debbie Thomas was better!!!

    • @mht4908
      @mht4908 Год назад +3

      Caryn should've placed 2nd here in the free skate, maybe even first since she has 2 triple loop combinations versus Katarina's single triple loop jump. That 5.4 for her technical merit was a joke. Rosslyn should've placed behind both Tiffany and Elaine in the free skate, Tiffany had a triple flip and triple loop (not well executed but still more difficult than Rosslyn's Salchow), Elaine hit her triple loop and a 3-2-2 combination. That should've been enough for them to take the top 3 places along with Katarina Witt, or maybe even placing Tiffany above Katarina (I'm a Katarina stan). Elaine also should've placed above Rosslyn in the short, I couldn't believe how blatantly underscored she was. Basically Rosslyn should've placed 6th at best in the short and 5th-7th for the free skate. She was a great skater but really did not hit when it counted other than the figures

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад +1

      ALL the Countries played "games" with Judging and Supporting the Athletes they thought had the Best opportunity to place.

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад +1

      Yes...ALL the Countries played Favoritism. The Olympics Pairs Cheat-Judging by the Soviets FOREVER CHANGED the Marking System. Of course, blame Americans for what Others are doing. Hypocrites!!!💥

  • @dmp7252
    @dmp7252 7 месяцев назад +2

    I was never a Katerina Witt fan. I just felt her lines were sloppy. However, I felt that both Debbie and Katerina really tried to do their best. Unfortunately Debbie had to many two-foot landings, and Katerina's jumps were clearly clean (the landing of the triple loop was questionable, likely two-footed). Also, in the slow section, Katarina really emoted MORE. She played the card of the feminine beauty, versus Debbie's more stronger persona. In ladies figure skating a clean "feminine" program will always beat a clean "strong-looking" program, because judges will inevitably think the more dainty performance is more artistic. It's not always fair. But, hey, welcome to the player's club. But, regardless of the dainty vs. strength argument, Katarina truly emoted more, and was sharper in her execution in general. Still not a fan of her skating, but a I can recognize that she won here.

    • @martinpascoe7678
      @martinpascoe7678 7 месяцев назад +1

      oh please she played up to the judges at every opportunity

    • @dmp7252
      @dmp7252 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@martinpascoe7678 Oh please, what? What are you talking about?

    • @azbycx56
      @azbycx56 7 месяцев назад

      I’ve always wondered about Katarina’s Triple Loop in this competition. It does look slightly suspect though she at least maintains good flow coming out of the jump which suggests to me that if it was 2-footed it was very minor. However, I saw a version of her skate on Japanese television with a different camera angle which does actually show a slow motion replay of her triple loop after she finishes skating. It looked like a clean jump from this version. I think the slight jarring you can notice on her landing was to do with a slightly awkward landing on the skating foot.

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f 4 месяца назад

      ​@@azbycx56...It was definitely a two-footed Loop. But...the JUDGES always gave her the Best marks.

    • @3l3llala13
      @3l3llala13 2 месяца назад +1

      Katerina's LP was artistically better. It smartly stuck with the WSS theme throughout. Debbie's LP was a hodgepodge of three unrelated music pieces.
      There wasn't anything "dainty" about Kat's program or performance. She attacked everything.

  • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
    @user-kf8wb2cq4f 4 месяца назад +1

    KATARINA's Figures were worse than 5th....and then the JUDGES gave her the SHORT PROGRAM Win for skating the EaSieSt TRIPLE JUMP COMBINATION of ALL the other Female Competitors. Why?? Because ...They wanted Katarina to win.

    • @rekr3316
      @rekr3316 Месяц назад

      Did you see Debi’s big mistake in the short? Did you see, that Elizabeth Manley skated exactly the same combo like Katarina Witt? I guess you have to open your eyes a bit..

    • @rekr3316
      @rekr3316 Месяц назад

      And… Even Kira Ivanova skated the same Combo like Katarina (but had a mistake with the 3Toeloop)!

  • @franktorres2718
    @franktorres2718 7 месяцев назад

    Scott, Always Talked TOO Much😡

  • @mattg.812
    @mattg.812 6 лет назад

    Leistner got hosed.

    • @victoriagill3337
      @victoriagill3337 2 года назад +1

      I’m afraid i didn’t find her easy to watch. She made her programme look quite laboured and difficult

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад +2

      She seemed to go from jump to jump..move to move. Seemed rehearsed and lacked Expression.