I have never been to Venice, but my dad who is from Nottingham, England has. He said it brought a tear to his eye as he stepped upon St Mark’s Square in Venice.
It should be: "It brings me tears to my eyes when I think about one of the biggest companies in England which is Primark relies on slave labor and human trafficking so that we can have cheap T-shirts" We live in a profoundly sick society
@@FeelingShred Dude, I care about the things you speak of, I really do, but going around preaching this stuff is only going to make people dislike you and therefore the things you speak of. It's precisely like vegans, the concept is great, it's how they behave that makes you want to eat a giant steak.
Great talk, thank you! You've got to love the comment from the woman at the end who said, "They kind of screwed themselves over," as if it was a special observation. Look at every rise and fall of all civilizations throughout history. Just about every fallen dynasty, country, or city state in some way, shape or form, kind of screwed themselves over through people's power games of status and wealth and fighting. Welcome to the human condition. Do you think we'll every learn? Here's hoping...
Or do we actually want these empires to last forever? Birth/ death cycle is important for new people and ideas to emerge. Anyways, dont you think the discovery of the new world and the rise of powers with Atlantic ports actually had a much greater impact on the decline.
It seems like the "fortunate ones" have been up to the same tricks... from experimenting with societal structures...most resulting in the transfer of wealth...mass distractions...from creating and funding both sides of the wars to religious "reforms"... surveiling domestically and providing intel to anyone to avoid invasions... basically controlling the narrative long ago...as it's becoming more transparent... empires... generations...pass on the old money...that has never gone away...a dog and phoney show that isn't so funny anymore
One of my favorite Venetian stories comes from the time the Lombard laid siege to the city, or rather the islands. Eventually the Lombards starting running out of food.l The Venetians took to using shipboard catapults to toss bread into the Lombard ranks to let the Lombard soldiers know that they weren't able to starve Venice. There is so much of Athenian heritage and history that is applicable to Venice, including even the importation of the bones of a patron saint (or heroic figure, as in the case of Athens)
At the end the lady in audience brought up that initially Venice started to trade exporting salt to Constantinople for goods to trade with Europe, which they supplanted with their own copies as best they could make, but one other important commodity they would have a monopoly on was Glass, probably stained class types too, IIRC.
Please ask the students/participants to save their stories for the end. Quick questions are fine, but their long interruptions to tell anecdotes, personal views, etc., disrupt the lecture. Maybe there should be a discussion session afterward for those who want to listen to these, we online, don’t. PS: it’s not the “Mayans”, it’s the “Maya”.
A study of the venitian empire is an absolute must...to have a grasp on todays geopolitical scene...the same decendants of these families still have much of the world confused and basically slaves to the centuries old agenda...cheers!
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator I was speaking of the current financial system that is currently used and traced back at least to the fall of the western roman empire... when venice fell after centuries the system moved to Netherlands but more exclusive to London...later wall street...same old money....borders change but old money remains and make the rules... you know this...sure you do... cheers from Mexico
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator what I meant was studying the venetian empire is a good starting point to understand today's monetary system... domestic and foreign surveillance...the means that were used to prolong their safety... example... providing invaders with intel to secure their safety while distracting their potential opponents... organizing wars and supplying and playing both sides...after the fall of the western roman empire... Italy became groups of city states... Florence played key roles as well as Genoa and others.... although the venetian banking system we see failing today... goes back further....to perhaps the Babylonian and Persian days... it's a place to start...."old money" never goes away... cheers from Mexico
Did not the banking element of the crumbling venitian empire basically move their operations to england...and started the city of london...and onwards throughout europe and eventually constructing wall street?
Venezia was called also as "the Door of Europe". Mostly because all trades and people that wanted to "legally" and "illegally" enter in Europe passed through Venezia. Of course it lasted short since other Italian city-states adopted similar politics and then later it was also the turn of the Hanza in the North Europe and then again the various European kingdom opened too to trade and exchanges... But the first during Middle Ages... that was Venezia.
Most are either still there or have moved to their mainland estates in veneto, they suffered a great decline in wealth after Napoleon and Austrian occupations.
A little trivia for you: Donald Duck is there because that window used to be the showcase of an old and very famous toy store of the city. The bridge that you see is still affectionaly called by venetians “the bridge of toys”
@@sian2337 Probably because of how insanely convoluted Venetian government was, that the lecturer can't help but laugh out of self-consciousness at how ridiculous an explanation of it sounds.
46:00 - it was not Russia but Principalities of Rus which are rather modern Ukraine and Belorus - because Russia will be formed (both by name and as core-territory) only in the end of XVII - beginning of XVIII cc.
Too many errors on the slides and I don’t like the way they show the slides, first at full size, then a zoomed-in version. Just as I start reading one, it changes scale and I have to figure out where I left off. Please just show them at one readable scale.
The Venetian Republic lasted 1000 years, so they must have done quite a few things right. America has a long way to go to match 1000 years, and the way things are looking for America, the odds are not good.
well the voting worked for 1000 years, that's more than you can say for any other government in any other country, and it looks like they were trying to make sure the result was really random
Jesus why do they feel the need to interrupt constantly with whatever tangential anecdote crosses their mind? And I thought Americans were bad for that.
@@contacthigh1 Yes, I made another comment correcting myself almost immediately afterwards. It shows on my screen right below my original comment, but you may have to search for it if you want to bother.
@ ~ 11.10 New sub - most of time, I'm bored w/lectures. *Not* w/these lectures! And some of us are made to feel crazy because we don't like former president. Thanks for joke.
yes, Duchy of Candia, Duchy of Nacos, Duchy of Dalmatio, etc. all colonial governments in essence, with the local (usually orthodox) residents being 3rd class to the second class non-venetian catholics and the first class catholic venetians
I think it was a major mistake in the presentation to put the comment on how the election process gave the state it's stability for centuries. If that was stated first, I don't think there would have been so much laughter about it, and people would have had impetus to think more seriously about the way the system gave the state such stability.
Can't we have any part of our lives free from partisan politics now? Jeez man, it might be funny to half the population, but for the other half of us "deplorables" there's just no end to it. Give it a break!
The popes, those criminals, cared not about the fate of enslaved Slavs but about the growing power of those who engaged in trading the slaves. The popes constantly fought for power. Peace was not their domain, neither truth.
I have never been to Venice, but my dad who is from Nottingham, England has. He said it brought a tear to his eye as he stepped upon St Mark’s Square in Venice.
Gang Gang, I'm from Nottingham too. Never been to Venice tho.
It should be: "It brings me tears to my eyes when I think about one of the biggest companies in England which is Primark relies on slave labor and human trafficking so that we can have cheap T-shirts"
We live in a profoundly sick society
@@FeelingShred no one asked
@@FeelingShred
Dude, I care about the things you speak of, I really do, but going around preaching this stuff is only going to make people dislike you and therefore the things you speak of.
It's precisely like vegans, the concept is great, it's how they behave that makes you want to eat a giant steak.
@@magnumopus1628 It's true, I don't even remember why I was so pissed off XDD Sometimes just gotta vent out I guess to put pressure out
Ive been watching every lecture by John ... I mean every one. Thank you centre place. Abraços do Rio de Janeiro
Great talk, thank you! You've got to love the comment from the woman at the end who said, "They kind of screwed themselves over," as if it was a special observation. Look at every rise and fall of all civilizations throughout history. Just about every fallen dynasty, country, or city state in some way, shape or form, kind of screwed themselves over through people's power games of status and wealth and fighting. Welcome to the human condition. Do you think we'll every learn? Here's hoping...
well it ended with the invasion by Napoleon. They worried being raised to the ground, so chose to capitulate to him.
Or do we actually want these empires to last forever? Birth/ death cycle is important for new people and ideas to emerge.
Anyways, dont you think the discovery of the new world and the rise of powers with Atlantic ports actually had a much greater impact on the decline.
It seems like the "fortunate ones" have been up to the same tricks... from experimenting with societal structures...most resulting in the transfer of wealth...mass distractions...from creating and funding both sides of the wars to religious "reforms"... surveiling domestically and providing intel to anyone to avoid invasions... basically controlling the narrative long ago...as it's becoming more transparent... empires... generations...pass on the old money...that has never gone away...a dog and phoney show that isn't so funny anymore
The height of American academic sophistication
One of my favorite Venetian stories comes from the time the Lombard laid siege to the city, or rather the islands. Eventually the Lombards starting running out of food.l The Venetians took to using shipboard catapults to toss bread into the Lombard ranks to let the Lombard soldiers know that they weren't able to starve Venice. There is so much of Athenian heritage and history that is applicable to Venice, including even the importation of the bones of a patron saint (or heroic figure, as in the case of Athens)
Excellent! A deep knowledge about history, and a simple way to explain it.
He really does know a lot of things
At the end the lady in audience brought up that initially Venice started to trade exporting salt to Constantinople for goods to trade with Europe, which they supplanted with their own copies as best they could make, but one other important commodity they would have a monopoly on was Glass, probably stained class types too, IIRC.
Please ask the students/participants to save their stories for the end. Quick questions are fine, but their long interruptions to tell anecdotes, personal views, etc., disrupt the lecture. Maybe there should be a discussion session afterward for those who want to listen to these, we online, don’t. PS: it’s not the “Mayans”, it’s the “Maya”.
Couldn't have been said better
This comment put me off watching altogether
thank you from Vienna for this lecture! (was in Venice a week ago)
Who is the lecturer, John who? Why isn’t this in the description box?
❤This was wonderfully informative.❤
I spent so many hours exploring Venice in Assassin's creed 2. Its such an amazing and pretty city.
So I just "needed" to know about the origin of Venice & lo' & behold you guys came up & I'm already Subbed, well done!!! & thank you...
The story with the baletino boy was funny. What a crazy way to elect the doge. Hereditary monarchy is a lot simpler.
1:20:00 I need to know where to find this quote please !!
Magnificently presented. Thank you!
Excellent presentation and research. Love your videos 👍
A study of the venitian empire is an absolute must...to have a grasp on todays geopolitical scene...the same decendants of these families still have much of the world confused and basically slaves to the centuries old agenda...cheers!
How do you mean?
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator I was speaking of the current financial system that is currently used and traced back at least to the fall of the western roman empire... when venice fell after centuries the system moved to Netherlands but more exclusive to London...later wall street...same old money....borders change but old money remains and make the rules... you know this...sure you do... cheers from Mexico
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator what I meant was studying the venetian empire is a good starting point to understand today's monetary system... domestic and foreign surveillance...the means that were used to prolong their safety... example... providing invaders with intel to secure their safety while distracting their potential opponents... organizing wars and supplying and playing both sides...after the fall of the western roman empire... Italy became groups of city states... Florence played key roles as well as Genoa and others.... although the venetian banking system we see failing today... goes back further....to perhaps the Babylonian and Persian days... it's a place to start...."old money" never goes away... cheers from Mexico
Did not the banking element of the crumbling venitian empire basically move their operations to england...and started the city of london...and onwards throughout europe and eventually constructing wall street?
no that is correct what you stated..
John Hammer cracking up was hilarious.
Venezia was called also as "the Door of Europe". Mostly because all trades and people that wanted to "legally" and "illegally" enter in Europe passed through Venezia.
Of course it lasted short since other Italian city-states adopted similar politics and then later it was also the turn of the Hanza in the North Europe and then again the various European kingdom opened too to trade and exchanges...
But the first during Middle Ages... that was Venezia.
Really good. Thanks.
Thank You very much for this class
The Doge at 19:09 is Leonardo Loredan, who reigned as the 75th Doge of Venice from 1501 until his death in 1521.
Would someone,please, write name of this historian... I bumped here totally by chance. And I'd like to Google him. Thanks
I'm watching in installments, but man oh man is this good! I love the bit about stealing St. Mark.
Excellent lecuture, thankyouverymuch' :- )
But what happened to the families that ruled Venice? Did they stay in Venice or they moved to other parts of Europe?
Most are either still there or have moved to their mainland estates in veneto, they suffered a great decline in wealth after Napoleon and Austrian occupations.
Ioannes Metaxas was a descendant of the noble families of Venice, he became a dictator of Greece.
I like this guy ... one funky dude!
Agree! I want to go camping with him and listen to his campfire stories. LoL
A little trivia for you: Donald Duck is there because that window used to be the showcase of an old and very famous toy store of the city. The bridge that you see is still affectionaly called by venetians “the bridge of toys”
Also I would argue that Donald Duck is more popular in Italy than Mickey Mouse!
21:47 this is Doge Leonardo Loredan
The guy at 21:45 is Leonardo Loredan, one of the most famous doges.
oh yes that him...the famous Leonardo Loredan....thanks for pointing him out.
Fast forward to about 55min to the best part
Why were they laughing?
@@sian2337 Probably because of how insanely convoluted Venetian government was, that the lecturer can't help but laugh out of self-consciousness at how ridiculous an explanation of it sounds.
46:00 - it was not Russia but Principalities of Rus which are rather modern Ukraine and Belorus - because Russia will be formed (both by name and as core-territory) only in the end of XVII - beginning of XVIII cc.
Thumbs up for the laugh outburst regarding the Venice elections. That must be where Samuel Hahnemann got his idea about homeopathy from.
They did the elector system for 400 years. However, they only used it once.
Too many errors on the slides and I don’t like the way they show the slides, first at full size, then a zoomed-in version. Just as I start reading one, it changes scale and I have to figure out where I left off. Please just show them at one readable scale.
The Venetian Republic lasted 1000 years, so they must have done quite a few things right. America has a long way to go to match 1000 years, and the way things are looking for America, the odds are not good.
I miss the republic of venice
The smart arse at 13:30 getting owned 😊
That's me :/
@@litomito5154 are any of the other lectures from this man available online?
well the voting worked for 1000 years, that's more than you can say for any other government in any other country, and it looks like they were trying to make sure the result was really random
Jesus why do they feel the need to interrupt constantly with whatever tangential anecdote crosses their mind? And I thought Americans were bad for that.
It’s so annoying!
Istria and Dalmatia, not Croatia but Repubblica di Venezia
The process of choosing the doge with the electors and the balotino.. lol
The flooding left this water i hear from history.
ng in Italian is pronounce like ny. All you had to do is remember the last time you ate lasagna
il maestro, "ng" and "gn", there is a difference there.
@@contacthigh1 Yes, I made another comment correcting myself almost immediately afterwards. It shows on my screen right below my original comment, but you may have to search for it if you want to bother.
@ ~ 11.10
New sub - most of time, I'm bored w/lectures. *Not* w/these lectures!
And some of us are made to feel crazy because we don't like former president. Thanks for joke.
Makes you wonder if Venice formed an colonial empire?
yes, Duchy of Candia, Duchy of Nacos, Duchy of Dalmatio, etc. all colonial governments in essence, with the local (usually orthodox) residents being 3rd class to the second class non-venetian catholics and the first class catholic venetians
*Naxos
*Dalmatia, damn I did not proofread at all lol
56:24 It's not funny. It was done this way for a reason.
The man in the portrait is Leonardo Loredan.
❤️🇺🇲🇮🇹
of course I meant gn
il maestro buono, You got it. I guess we can research the Venetian dialect for the "Arengo" phonology. Stammi bene, Amico.
I think it was a major mistake in the presentation to put the comment on how the election process gave the state it's stability for centuries. If that was stated first, I don't think there would have been so much laughter about it, and people would have had impetus to think more seriously about the way the system gave the state such stability.
i luv this lecturer....no agenda like Roy Casagranda (this dude always bashing european culture)...it's really annoying
Can't we have any part of our lives free from partisan politics now? Jeez man, it might be funny to half the population, but for the other half of us "deplorables" there's just no end to it. Give it a break!
🤏🏽🎻
Um... Oh, never mind.
"Don't tell the Russians...."...LOL i'm a trump fanboy but that was a good one...
Great video but for a highly educated Professor this man has appalling rhetorical skills.
What professors are you working for? He does a great job communicating the material.
Imagine being so political as to make 4 jokes based on a false modern narrative in a lecture about medieval history.....
can he stop laughing at everything he says?
It's unbearable to watch it, I had to give up after 10 minutes because of the constant insecure giggling.
Pathological
@@b0b0- What is?
@@elvenkind6072 haha, his diabolical snicker. It never stops
@@b0b0- I'm not likely to try to listen more to this man from now. :¨( **nervous**
Venice is a modern construct of Phoenicia.Venezia= Phoenicia.
good lecture, but i don't find anything really that funny.
phhhhuck you...he's funny
Please stop spreading lies. It was the Turkic tribes who were kidnapped Slavs and selling them to the Persians, Turks..
Yes
This lecture could have been 20 minutes long.
Stop laughing
is this guy stoned? sketchy presentation, at times no much of deep sense of history
Always knew you was a Joe biden supporter. I'm out.
Nobody cares
Pfff. On a video about Venice lmao.
@@saintbrush4398 They just can't help themselves, can they? I suspect people will be cracking up at this comment years from now.
Nothing new and very f5,:ng boring
ur mom was boring but i still did her and you were created from it
The popes, those criminals, cared not about the fate of enslaved Slavs but about the growing power of those who engaged in trading the slaves. The popes constantly fought for power. Peace was not their domain, neither truth.