The Republic of Venice - History and Government

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2019
  • In this lecture we explore the history of Venice and the evolution of its elaborate republican system. How did a lagoon village become the commercial centre that helped revive Europe and build the modern world? How influential this idiosyncratic form of government continues to be and what are its pros and cons?

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  • @juliogadelhaparente
    @juliogadelhaparente 2 года назад +13

    Ive been watching every lecture by John ... I mean every one. Thank you centre place. Abraços do Rio de Janeiro

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 2 года назад +20

    One of my favorite Venetian stories comes from the time the Lombard laid siege to the city, or rather the islands. Eventually the Lombards starting running out of food.l The Venetians took to using shipboard catapults to toss bread into the Lombard ranks to let the Lombard soldiers know that they weren't able to starve Venice. There is so much of Athenian heritage and history that is applicable to Venice, including even the importation of the bones of a patron saint (or heroic figure, as in the case of Athens)

  • @safeysmith6720
    @safeysmith6720 3 года назад +15

    I have never been to Venice, but my dad who is from Nottingham, England has. He said it brought a tear to his eye as he stepped upon St Mark’s Square in Venice.

    • @Hypnopotimus27
      @Hypnopotimus27 3 года назад +1

      Gang Gang, I'm from Nottingham too. Never been to Venice tho.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 2 года назад +1

      It should be: "It brings me tears to my eyes when I think about one of the biggest companies in England which is Primark relies on slave labor and human trafficking so that we can have cheap T-shirts"
      We live in a profoundly sick society

    • @Hypnopotimus27
      @Hypnopotimus27 2 года назад +4

      @@FeelingShred no one asked

    • @magnumopus1628
      @magnumopus1628 2 года назад +2

      @@FeelingShred
      Dude, I care about the things you speak of, I really do, but going around preaching this stuff is only going to make people dislike you and therefore the things you speak of.
      It's precisely like vegans, the concept is great, it's how they behave that makes you want to eat a giant steak.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 2 года назад +2

      @@magnumopus1628 It's true, I don't even remember why I was so pissed off XDD Sometimes just gotta vent out I guess to put pressure out

  • @glenn-younger
    @glenn-younger 2 года назад +35

    Great talk, thank you! You've got to love the comment from the woman at the end who said, "They kind of screwed themselves over," as if it was a special observation. Look at every rise and fall of all civilizations throughout history. Just about every fallen dynasty, country, or city state in some way, shape or form, kind of screwed themselves over through people's power games of status and wealth and fighting. Welcome to the human condition. Do you think we'll every learn? Here's hoping...

    • @MrRedcarpet02
      @MrRedcarpet02 Год назад

      well it ended with the invasion by Napoleon. They worried being raised to the ground, so chose to capitulate to him.

    • @edwardd.484
      @edwardd.484 Год назад +3

      Or do we actually want these empires to last forever? Birth/ death cycle is important for new people and ideas to emerge.
      Anyways, dont you think the discovery of the new world and the rise of powers with Atlantic ports actually had a much greater impact on the decline.

    • @jimranallo686
      @jimranallo686 Год назад

      It seems like the "fortunate ones" have been up to the same tricks... from experimenting with societal structures...most resulting in the transfer of wealth...mass distractions...from creating and funding both sides of the wars to religious "reforms"... surveiling domestically and providing intel to anyone to avoid invasions... basically controlling the narrative long ago...as it's becoming more transparent... empires... generations...pass on the old money...that has never gone away...a dog and phoney show that isn't so funny anymore

    • @philodonoghue3062
      @philodonoghue3062 2 месяца назад

      The height of American academic sophistication

  • @giancarlomesaglio8712
    @giancarlomesaglio8712 3 года назад +30

    Excellent! A deep knowledge about history, and a simple way to explain it.

    • @deanvrabl
      @deanvrabl Год назад +1

      He really does know a lot of things

  • @foreignaustrian
    @foreignaustrian 3 года назад +12

    thank you from Vienna for this lecture! (was in Venice a week ago)

  • @SaulKopfenjager
    @SaulKopfenjager 2 года назад +5

    At the end the lady in audience brought up that initially Venice started to trade exporting salt to Constantinople for goods to trade with Europe, which they supplanted with their own copies as best they could make, but one other important commodity they would have a monopoly on was Glass, probably stained class types too, IIRC.

  • @SafeSpaceCafe
    @SafeSpaceCafe Месяц назад

    So I just "needed" to know about the origin of Venice & lo' & behold you guys came up & I'm already Subbed, well done!!! & thank you...

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 Год назад +23

    Please ask the students/participants to save their stories for the end. Quick questions are fine, but their long interruptions to tell anecdotes, personal views, etc., disrupt the lecture. Maybe there should be a discussion session afterward for those who want to listen to these, we online, don’t. PS: it’s not the “Mayans”, it’s the “Maya”.

    • @uuyyy8568
      @uuyyy8568 6 месяцев назад

      Couldn't have been said better

    • @billyb7852
      @billyb7852 2 месяца назад

      This comment put me off watching altogether

  • @767scarecrow
    @767scarecrow 2 года назад +3

    John Hammer cracking up was hilarious.

  • @fastforwardjetzt
    @fastforwardjetzt 2 года назад +3

    Excellent presentation and research. Love your videos 👍

  • @sebastianucero7535
    @sebastianucero7535 2 года назад +1

    Thank You very much for this class

  • @MartinhoRamos1990
    @MartinhoRamos1990 4 года назад +9

    Magnificently presented. Thank you!

  • @laurenceharper2037
    @laurenceharper2037 Месяц назад

    I spent so many hours exploring Venice in Assassin's creed 2. Its such an amazing and pretty city.

  • @jimranallo686
    @jimranallo686 Год назад +1

    A study of the venitian empire is an absolute must...to have a grasp on todays geopolitical scene...the same decendants of these families still have much of the world confused and basically slaves to the centuries old agenda...cheers!

    • @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator
      @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator Год назад

      How do you mean?

    • @jimranallo686
      @jimranallo686 Год назад +2

      @@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator I was speaking of the current financial system that is currently used and traced back at least to the fall of the western roman empire... when venice fell after centuries the system moved to Netherlands but more exclusive to London...later wall street...same old money....borders change but old money remains and make the rules... you know this...sure you do... cheers from Mexico

    • @jimranallo686
      @jimranallo686 Год назад +2

      @@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator what I meant was studying the venetian empire is a good starting point to understand today's monetary system... domestic and foreign surveillance...the means that were used to prolong their safety... example... providing invaders with intel to secure their safety while distracting their potential opponents... organizing wars and supplying and playing both sides...after the fall of the western roman empire... Italy became groups of city states... Florence played key roles as well as Genoa and others.... although the venetian banking system we see failing today... goes back further....to perhaps the Babylonian and Persian days... it's a place to start...."old money" never goes away... cheers from Mexico

  • @PurpleWarlock
    @PurpleWarlock 5 месяцев назад

    Really good. Thanks.

  • @danishcupcake921
    @danishcupcake921 2 года назад +3

    Excellent lecuture, thankyouverymuch' :- )

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 Год назад +2

    Who is the lecturer, John who? Why isn’t this in the description box?

  • @lucascortes5615
    @lucascortes5615 3 месяца назад +1

    I loved this lecture

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 5 дней назад

    Venezia was called also as "the Door of Europe". Mostly because all trades and people that wanted to "legally" and "illegally" enter in Europe passed through Venezia.
    Of course it lasted short since other Italian city-states adopted similar politics and then later it was also the turn of the Hanza in the North Europe and then again the various European kingdom opened too to trade and exchanges...
    But the first during Middle Ages... that was Venezia.

  • @stutzbearcat5624
    @stutzbearcat5624 2 года назад +4

    I like this guy ... one funky dude!

    • @haze1123
      @haze1123 2 года назад

      Agree! I want to go camping with him and listen to his campfire stories. LoL

  • @alangriffin8146
    @alangriffin8146 Год назад +1

    I'm watching in installments, but man oh man is this good! I love the bit about stealing St. Mark.

  • @carol-lynnrossel8700
    @carol-lynnrossel8700 3 месяца назад

    ❤This was wonderfully informative.❤

  • @deanvrabl
    @deanvrabl Год назад +3

    Would someone,please, write name of this historian... I bumped here totally by chance. And I'd like to Google him. Thanks

  • @appolonius5468
    @appolonius5468 2 года назад +3

    The guy at 21:45 is Leonardo Loredan, one of the most famous doges.

  • @jamesthewineguy
    @jamesthewineguy 10 месяцев назад +2

    21:47 this is Doge Leonardo Loredan

  • @matthewsutton3682
    @matthewsutton3682 3 года назад +6

    Fast forward to about 55min to the best part

    • @sian2337
      @sian2337 3 года назад

      Why were they laughing?

    • @matthewsutton3682
      @matthewsutton3682 3 года назад +6

      @@sian2337 Probably because of how insanely convoluted Venetian government was, that the lecturer can't help but laugh out of self-consciousness at how ridiculous an explanation of it sounds.

  • @Agustinoism
    @Agustinoism 20 дней назад

    I miss the republic of venice

  • @kochetovalex
    @kochetovalex 2 года назад +3

    46:00 - it was not Russia but Principalities of Rus which are rather modern Ukraine and Belorus - because Russia will be formed (both by name and as core-territory) only in the end of XVII - beginning of XVIII cc.

  • @criaturaimaginaria5230
    @criaturaimaginaria5230 8 месяцев назад

    1:20:00 I need to know where to find this quote please !!

  • @alexisbonilla5942
    @alexisbonilla5942 4 месяца назад

    The Doge at 19:09 is Leonardo Loredan, who reigned as the 75th Doge of Venice from 1501 until his death in 1521.

  • @chepigna
    @chepigna 9 месяцев назад

    A little trivia for you: Donald Duck is there because that window used to be the showcase of an old and very famous toy store of the city. The bridge that you see is still affectionaly called by venetians “the bridge of toys”

    • @topotondo828
      @topotondo828 7 месяцев назад

      Also I would argue that Donald Duck is more popular in Italy than Mickey Mouse!

  • @chutspe
    @chutspe 2 года назад +4

    Thumbs up for the laugh outburst regarding the Venice elections. That must be where Samuel Hahnemann got his idea about homeopathy from.

  • @jimranallo686
    @jimranallo686 Год назад +1

    Did not the banking element of the crumbling venitian empire basically move their operations to england...and started the city of london...and onwards throughout europe and eventually constructing wall street?

  • @elan-6418
    @elan-6418 2 года назад +1

    They did the elector system for 400 years. However, they only used it once.

  • @gilgalbiblewheel6313
    @gilgalbiblewheel6313 2 года назад

    But what happened to the families that ruled Venice? Did they stay in Venice or they moved to other parts of Europe?

    • @FluffyFishy69
      @FluffyFishy69 Год назад +1

      Most are either still there or have moved to their mainland estates in veneto, they suffered a great decline in wealth after Napoleon and Austrian occupations.

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 3 месяца назад +1

      Ioannes Metaxas was a descendant of the noble families of Venice, he became a dictator of Greece.

  • @dedalus9
    @dedalus9 3 года назад +10

    The smart arse at 13:30 getting owned 😊

    • @litomito5154
      @litomito5154 3 года назад +2

      That's me :/

    • @jcavs9847
      @jcavs9847 3 года назад

      @@litomito5154 are any of the other lectures from this man available online?

  • @diboraethiopia.793
    @diboraethiopia.793 3 года назад

    The flooding left this water i hear from history.

  • @USA50_
    @USA50_ 2 года назад +1

    ❤️🇺🇲🇮🇹

  • @mickmickymick6927
    @mickmickymick6927 3 года назад +10

    Jesus why do they feel the need to interrupt constantly with whatever tangential anecdote crosses their mind? And I thought Americans were bad for that.

  • @gussetma1945
    @gussetma1945 2 года назад

    of course I meant gn

    • @contacthigh1
      @contacthigh1 2 года назад

      il maestro buono, You got it. I guess we can research the Venetian dialect for the "Arengo" phonology. Stammi bene, Amico.

  • @jayanimate6637
    @jayanimate6637 2 года назад +4

    The process of choosing the doge with the electors and the balotino.. lol

  • @gussetma1945
    @gussetma1945 2 года назад +1

    ng in Italian is pronounce like ny. All you had to do is remember the last time you ate lasagna

    • @contacthigh1
      @contacthigh1 2 года назад

      il maestro, "ng" and "gn", there is a difference there.

    • @gussetma1945
      @gussetma1945 2 года назад

      @@contacthigh1 Yes, I made another comment correcting myself almost immediately afterwards. It shows on my screen right below my original comment, but you may have to search for it if you want to bother.

  • @noneofurbusiness5223
    @noneofurbusiness5223 11 месяцев назад +1

    @ ~ 11.10
    New sub - most of time, I'm bored w/lectures. *Not* w/these lectures!
    And some of us are made to feel crazy because we don't like former president. Thanks for joke.

  • @canemcave
    @canemcave Год назад +1

    well the voting worked for 1000 years, that's more than you can say for any other government in any other country, and it looks like they were trying to make sure the result was really random

  • @rubenjames7345
    @rubenjames7345 2 года назад

    Um... Oh, never mind.

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 Год назад

    Too many errors on the slides and I don’t like the way they show the slides, first at full size, then a zoomed-in version. Just as I start reading one, it changes scale and I have to figure out where I left off. Please just show them at one readable scale.

  • @tarhunta2111
    @tarhunta2111 6 месяцев назад

    Venice is a modern construct of Phoenicia.Venezia= Phoenicia.

  • @OrgeonStar
    @OrgeonStar 2 года назад

    Makes you wonder if Venice formed an colonial empire?

    • @eyzmin
      @eyzmin Год назад +1

      yes, Duchy of Candia, Duchy of Nacos, Duchy of Dalmatio, etc. all colonial governments in essence, with the local (usually orthodox) residents being 3rd class to the second class non-venetian catholics and the first class catholic venetians

    • @eyzmin
      @eyzmin Год назад

      *Naxos

    • @eyzmin
      @eyzmin Год назад

      *Dalmatia, damn I did not proofread at all lol

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 2 года назад +3

    I think it was a major mistake in the presentation to put the comment on how the election process gave the state it's stability for centuries. If that was stated first, I don't think there would have been so much laughter about it, and people would have had impetus to think more seriously about the way the system gave the state such stability.

  • @FrogInPot
    @FrogInPot 3 года назад +15

    Can't we have any part of our lives free from partisan politics now? Jeez man, it might be funny to half the population, but for the other half of us "deplorables" there's just no end to it. Give it a break!

    • @kazhamo
      @kazhamo Год назад +3

      🤏🏽🎻

  • @Ushakov_Mykyta
    @Ushakov_Mykyta 2 года назад +3

    Imagine being so political as to make 4 jokes based on a false modern narrative in a lecture about medieval history.....

  • @autodidact537
    @autodidact537 2 года назад +4

    Great video but for a highly educated Professor this man has appalling rhetorical skills.

    • @103617
      @103617 2 года назад +1

      What professors are you working for? He does a great job communicating the material.

  • @ZxZ239
    @ZxZ239 5 дней назад

    good lecture, but i don't find anything really that funny.

  • @ngc-ho1xd
    @ngc-ho1xd 2 года назад +1

    This lecture could have been 20 minutes long.

  • @FlyingTeacup
    @FlyingTeacup 3 года назад +5

    can he stop laughing at everything he says?

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 3 года назад

      It's unbearable to watch it, I had to give up after 10 minutes because of the constant insecure giggling.

    • @b0b0-
      @b0b0- 2 года назад

      Pathological

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 2 года назад

      @@b0b0- What is?

    • @b0b0-
      @b0b0- 2 года назад

      @@elvenkind6072 haha, his diabolical snicker. It never stops

    • @elvenkind6072
      @elvenkind6072 2 года назад

      @@b0b0- I'm not likely to try to listen more to this man from now. :¨( **nervous**

  • @mischa1880
    @mischa1880 3 года назад +1

    Please stop spreading lies. It was the Turkic tribes who were kidnapped Slavs and selling them to the Persians, Turks..
    Yes

  • @gundarvarr1024
    @gundarvarr1024 11 месяцев назад

    Stop laughing

  • @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733
    @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 2 года назад +3

    Always knew you was a Joe biden supporter. I'm out.

    • @pmaigotthat7211
      @pmaigotthat7211 2 года назад +8

      Nobody cares

    • @saintbrush4398
      @saintbrush4398 2 года назад +4

      Pfff. On a video about Venice lmao.

    • @appolonius5468
      @appolonius5468 2 года назад +2

      @@saintbrush4398 They just can't help themselves, can they? I suspect people will be cracking up at this comment years from now.

  • @torceridaho
    @torceridaho 4 месяца назад

    is this guy stoned? sketchy presentation, at times no much of deep sense of history

  • @vlad3192
    @vlad3192 2 года назад

    Nothing new and very f5,:ng boring

  • @heandjehsshhe
    @heandjehsshhe Год назад

    The popes, those criminals, cared not about the fate of enslaved Slavs but about the growing power of those who engaged in trading the slaves. The popes constantly fought for power. Peace was not their domain, neither truth.

  • @BOIOLA08
    @BOIOLA08 Год назад

    The man in the portrait is Leonardo Loredan.