I really want a fanless case for this. Like an Akasa Touring or an Cirrus7 Incus. This can cool 50-60W. Perfect for this APU. Great graphics, still small and absolutely siltent!
@@fredsas12 Bazzite is a linux distro, steam is built in, it runs proton which intercepts directx calls and converts it to vulkan, allowing you to run windows games. Sometimes a feature here or there is missing, sometimes the games have better performance than windows, there are thousands of compatible games - bazzite is very close to steamdeck os. (based on arch)
5:00 Of note, just because the CPU can run DIMM/SODIMM at 8000, doesnt mean the SODIMM itself will run at that speed, the problem with these small form factors is cooling, to run DIMM or SODIMM at 8000 (which my 8700G can do in 1:1 with MCLK) you're looking at each stick using between 10 and 20w of power, the problem is that these small form factor layouts almost always stack the RAM on top of each other so that of the 4 sides with RAM chips on them, only one side of one stick is getting cooled, and generally not well because there isnt normally dedicated airflow for the RAM, the reason my DDR5 is at 8000 and not on fire is because it has a fan blowing down directly on them with plenty of space between them for air to flow over their heatsinks, which SODIMM generally does not have.
It is basically Mini PC without enclosure exept it has 3 ssd slots but non removable RAM. At least LattePanda has pins for programming same as raspberry pi and other SBC for diy.
@kevinlast3874 Depends on if you're a bird in the hand vs 2 in the bush kind of guy. The Steamdeck and the minisforum um690 are available now with similarish specs.
I've been putting off trying Bazzite on my ROG Ally, if I wanna do that I'm gonna have to buy at least a 1TB SSD for it. No way I'm splitting the already small 500GB of space between 2 OS, Windows itself takes up so much already. I might get one and do it once that official SteamOS support comes out for Ally.
The FSR3 framegen implementation in Cyberpunk patch 2.13 is bugged. The devs set the full screen vignette effect as a UI mask so the game is only generating new frame info in a very tiny circle in the center of the screen. It will show a high framerate number but is mostly just displaying the same frame twice. Not worth enabling FSR FG in that game until the devs fix it since you are just adding latency for no visual improvement.
Hello! I am one of the people who love your videos very much in Korea! I'm writing because I have a question. I said I'm funding that product, how can I get it?
That's what I was thinking too, I really hope he tries it. Or at least addresses it. I know it probably won't be great for high end GPUs but having any upgrade path is nice
@@przemeksz8203 With Proton/compatibility layers it sort of cuts off the need to release specifically tailored software for the deck. It's good enough to make sure software gets optimized for the hardware and the deck's input design to call it a day.
You can look at any KDE Plasma version 6.x review to get an idea. It does not matter much whether you use ubuntu or arch or fedora as a base, KDE will work pretty much the same. Steam deck also uses KDE. It's also very easy to just try it out on your desktop without installation using Balena Etcher. No need to install, just follow instructions and have a test drive for yourself to see if its for you. Unlike windows any linux distro can be tried out before installing.
I really wonder if changing the thermal past to liquid metal or a more aggressive fan curve, or with a different cooler, if you could get more performance out of it in 54watt modeI, also wonder if there's a possibility to change the power budget percentage, as in, giving more power budget to the cpu or gpu.
Liquid metal is stupid in a permanent installation. It also needs to be designed with that material in mind or any amount of excess or pumpout will kill the board
Well i was more wondering what the maximum performance will be like, not keeping in mind the permanent fixture. Plus there's stuff that will keep the liquid metal from leaking out
I agree. SteamOS has some of the security that requires the commands: sudo steamos-readonly disable To install other packages from repos, and mod the system files, on command line... Then you have: sudo steamos-readonly enable ... To lock it back down. Not to mention all the other points of SteamOS... It isn't just Steam and Proton that make SteamOS what it is
I don't know the name of this mini PC, i don't know ehre to get it, how much it cost.... But seems nice, i keep looking for something that is real, has a name and a company where i can buy it
Do you ever try the real SteamOS on these? I like trying and am always surprised which hardware works, and what doesnt. Take my 6800HS based mini PC. Sleep just does not work, but on my 7840HS it does, but Wifi and BT dont and i am 99% sure the GPU is in limp mode though i had a need for this PC so i didnt leave SteamOS on for long.
I have a spare AMD PC that would suit this OS. Some have claimed that anti cheat software in some games doesn't play well with Linux. Have you run into any games that wouldn't play for this or any other reason?
I have a trigkey s5 mini PC and I think I'm just going to give up trying to get bazzite running on it. Tried a bunch of times with HDD through extra SATA port and no matter what after installing it just goes to black screen and does nothing. Finally Got it running off of a Samsung usbc drive and the next time I booted it up, wifi wouldn't work no matter what I do
dude literally pulls OS's outta his behind. I have never heard of Bazzite. Can you PLEASE review the GMKtec K6?? its the same CPU in this vid but a more cutdown SBC. I was wondering how it would fair compared to this. it starts at like $279.99 that is BB but the 16GB is $350
Hey ETA, remember your old school video where you cobbled together a no solder raspberry pi handheld for inexperienced tinkerers? I think it would be a fun video if you attempted something similar with this board if it is even feasible.
Does this SBC have a boot on power connected setting in the BIOS (where it can boot up when you plug in the power cable) or a Power Button jumper to bypass the onboard power switch? Thinking about compatibility with alternative cases & projects with different power switches or no power switches at all. Thanks!
What would this sbc computer be like if you took one of those m.2 nvme to oculink adapters to be able to plug a egpu in. Is there anyway you can try that eta prime?
this device would be perfect if it had 10gb ethernet instead of 2.5. Would be the perfect little diy home server to put your whole network on 10gb. R2 Max has the capability I’m talking about, but it has the low powered intel N100/305. Would be so nice to have a full powered Ryzen chip instead, that is if you’re less concerned about your power bill like me.
Remember the days that cyberpunk would bring gaming pcs to their knees. Now we can run it on a credit card.
Cyberpunk ran on Xbox One, so slow tech from 2013.
thats wild when you think about it i remember when cyberpunk wouldn't even run on the ps4
@@SweBeach2023 Ran badly on Xbox one and PS4...it got pulled for a reason. Though it did run great on the Xbox Series S.
wait until flight simulator 2024 releases, then that will be the real cpu benchmark
wait until flight simulator 2024 releases, then that will be the real cpu benchmark
The board deserves a 3D-printed case 😊
I really want a fanless case for this. Like an Akasa Touring or an Cirrus7 Incus. This can cool 50-60W. Perfect for this APU. Great graphics, still small and absolutely siltent!
That would turn this "SBC" into your average MiniPC.
We are really in a new golden age of PC gaming, this time on Linux.
Developers are making games for Linux now?
@@fredsas12 no
Not until the anti-cheat software is supported for multiplayer allowing the bigger titles to work. That will be the day...
@@fredsas12 Bazzite is a linux distro, steam is built in, it runs proton which intercepts directx calls and converts it to vulkan, allowing you to run windows games. Sometimes a feature here or there is missing, sometimes the games have better performance than windows, there are thousands of compatible games - bazzite is very close to steamdeck os. (based on arch)
@@TutonicMonkey anti-cheat just a joke at this point, but still we need some kinda anti cheat for online games on linux
So it's basically a z1 extreme with no handheld pretty cool in my opinion I'd buy if they released this just to keep it hooked up to my living room tv
It is a bit stronger because it is HS instead of U.
wow someone took a mini pc out of the case that's neat
Literally the um790 pro!! But at least it's decent specs in a small form factor 😂
yeah unless you are putting this in a rack or some unusual set up I don't understand the point of these.
@@Aremis36O isnt this a lot cheaper?
That's damn impressive, especially at that kinda price and size !!
At what kind of price? The price isn't known yet.
@@redavatar I was wondering the same lol
@@MrGalax00 me three lmao
Rumour has its going to be $319 USD
@@derektownsend-f1g Wow! Playing CP77 for 320? Bargain!
My dream came true!
So hyped!
This looks great I really hope the price is reasonable. I'd love to turn it into an all in one computer.
5:00 Of note, just because the CPU can run DIMM/SODIMM at 8000, doesnt mean the SODIMM itself will run at that speed, the problem with these small form factors is cooling, to run DIMM or SODIMM at 8000 (which my 8700G can do in 1:1 with MCLK) you're looking at each stick using between 10 and 20w of power, the problem is that these small form factor layouts almost always stack the RAM on top of each other so that of the 4 sides with RAM chips on them, only one side of one stick is getting cooled, and generally not well because there isnt normally dedicated airflow for the RAM, the reason my DDR5 is at 8000 and not on fire is because it has a fan blowing down directly on them with plenty of space between them for air to flow over their heatsinks, which SODIMM generally does not have.
Amazing!
I wish Valve made SD OS public but this small computer is great!
Nice work man, tyny pc running best games in linux, very smooth and alternative solutions pc/gaming. New era to toydesks 😂
I will absolutely buy this.
Finally something we always have dreamed of
It is basically Mini PC without enclosure exept it has 3 ssd slots but non removable RAM. At least LattePanda has pins for programming same as raspberry pi and other SBC for diy.
Are you able to please start testing Helldivers? Love the content! ❤
I would not spare 50 bucks for a brushed aluminum aftermarket case for this beauty.
thats such a nice tiny thing i love it :) put an nvme to oculink adapter and connect a gpu to it :D i would like to see how it works :)
Man, maybe it is time for a Steam Console.
impressive
Love that new OS.
It suggested price(Toms Hardware) is $330 which isn't horrible if its for the 32GB variant
whats better at that price point?
@kevinlast3874 Depends on if you're a bird in the hand vs 2 in the bush kind of guy. The Steamdeck and the minisforum um690 are available now with similarish specs.
Pretty sweet SBC 🔥
small block chevy
Nice review. Prime time
When i see little boards do this much i get all hype to build an arcade pc gaming setup and when i see the price i definitely know it is too much.😂
someone is going to design a sweet r/cyberdeck style device with this
I've been putting off trying Bazzite on my ROG Ally, if I wanna do that I'm gonna have to buy at least a 1TB SSD for it. No way I'm splitting the already small 500GB of space between 2 OS, Windows itself takes up so much already. I might get one and do it once that official SteamOS support comes out for Ally.
This is amazing
The FSR3 framegen implementation in Cyberpunk patch 2.13 is bugged. The devs set the full screen vignette effect as a UI mask so the game is only generating new frame info in a very tiny circle in the center of the screen. It will show a high framerate number but is mostly just displaying the same frame twice. Not worth enabling FSR FG in that game until the devs fix it since you are just adding latency for no visual improvement.
Why do you never talk about how the latency feels on the frame gen?
What laptop is on the desk in the beginning. That trackpad looks gorgeous
"like always" Cool video with cool piece of hardware.
You mentioned in your first video it has USB4. Can you try how far you can get with high and mid range eGPUs?
Thanks!
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Hello! I am one of the people who love your videos very much in Korea!
I'm writing because I have a question.
I said I'm funding that product, how can I get it?
@etaprime do you think you could add an oculink adapter to one of those m.2 slots and add an EGPu, that would be cool if that would work.
Great idea
That's what I was thinking too, I really hope he tries it. Or at least addresses it. I know it probably won't be great for high end GPUs but having any upgrade path is nice
Not for steam , windows only
im wondering why indie devs dont make native steamdeck games
@@przemeksz8203 With Proton/compatibility layers it sort of cuts off the need to release specifically tailored software for the deck. It's good enough to make sure software gets optimized for the hardware and the deck's input design to call it a day.
Me imagino que con un Ai Max estos aparatitos van a ser una locura
No link to the board? No price information?
in the previous video he stated it was a pre-release board, so there's no price yet
According to a reddit post, it looks like the board out of a AooStar GEM10 7840HS minus the OCuLink daughterboard.
@@affieuk So ~$500.
now only if we can have a modular handheld that can fit in these SBCs
With specs like that, I figured it would’ve gotten better performance in games 🤷
I feel a lot of people will be using this SPC to make their own custom steam decks
Can you do a deep dive Bazzite review like using it as a daily driver not only for gaming?
You can look at any KDE Plasma version 6.x review to get an idea. It does not matter much whether you use ubuntu or arch or fedora as a base, KDE will work pretty much the same. Steam deck also uses KDE. It's also very easy to just try it out on your desktop without installation using Balena Etcher. No need to install, just follow instructions and have a test drive for yourself to see if its for you. Unlike windows any linux distro can be tried out before installing.
Linux is good for streaming games from a real OS
Mobile egpu with this sleek beast?
Why won't Valve just make their own traditional couch console from this?
btw the apu in this is identical to the z1 extreme. the z1 extreme = 7840u
They should put this built in to a monitor
Well you're probably better off value wise to get a steam deck so you it can do this plus gaming on the go, but impressive nontheless.
It’s cool but I swear some people simply forget they can dock their steam deck
Im planning to buy a new desktop but imma have it on dual boot running mainly on bazzite and windows secondary
Yes
Bazzite sounds like an Australian slur of some sort.
Ventoy
and you'll never need to create a bootable usb stick again :)
Hi Eta,
I would love to see egpu with oculink connected with that extra m.2 slots plz plz review it
I really wonder if changing the thermal past to liquid metal or a more aggressive fan curve, or with a different cooler, if you could get more performance out of it in 54watt modeI, also wonder if there's a possibility to change the power budget percentage, as in, giving more power budget to the cpu or gpu.
Liquid metal is stupid in a permanent installation. It also needs to be designed with that material in mind or any amount of excess or pumpout will kill the board
Well i was more wondering what the maximum performance will be like, not keeping in mind the permanent fixture. Plus there's stuff that will keep the liquid metal from leaking out
Calling an Linux PC with steam installed in it an steam OS is one Hella of a stretch!
I agree. SteamOS has some of the security that requires the commands:
sudo steamos-readonly disable
To install other packages from repos, and mod the system files, on command line... Then you have:
sudo steamos-readonly enable
... To lock it back down.
Not to mention all the other points of SteamOS... It isn't just Steam and Proton that make SteamOS what it is
Well that is really nice. But if it isn't out now or have a solid release date. IDGAF.
I don't know the name of this mini PC, i don't know ehre to get it, how much it cost....
But seems nice, i keep looking for something that is real, has a name and a company where i can buy it
That looks like an amazing 80 dollars to spend.
Do you ever try the real SteamOS on these? I like trying and am always surprised which hardware works, and what doesnt.
Take my 6800HS based mini PC. Sleep just does not work, but on my 7840HS it does, but Wifi and BT dont and i am 99% sure the GPU is in limp mode though i had a need for this PC so i didnt leave SteamOS on for long.
if only it came w/ a case, or an STL file for one
I wonder if there are any good cases for this SBC.
I have a spare AMD PC that would suit this OS.
Some have claimed that anti cheat software in some games doesn't play well with Linux.
Have you run into any games that wouldn't play for this or any other reason?
GTA V online is incompatible with Linux because of battleye
I have a trigkey s5 mini PC and I think I'm just going to give up trying to get bazzite running on it. Tried a bunch of times with HDD through extra SATA port and no matter what after installing it just goes to black screen and does nothing. Finally Got it running off of a Samsung usbc drive and the next time I booted it up, wifi wouldn't work no matter what I do
dude literally pulls OS's outta his behind. I have never heard of Bazzite. Can you PLEASE review the GMKtec K6?? its the same CPU in this vid but a more cutdown SBC. I was wondering how it would fair compared to this. it starts at like $279.99 that is BB but the 16GB is $350
Hey ETA, remember your old school video where you cobbled together a no solder raspberry pi handheld for inexperienced tinkerers? I think it would be a fun video if you attempted something similar with this board if it is even feasible.
Can u do a vid on the gamesir x3 pro and game fusion
btw what was that phone on the desk beside the laptop
Does this SBC have a boot on power connected setting in the BIOS (where it can boot up when you plug in the power cable) or a Power Button jumper to bypass the onboard power switch? Thinking about compatibility with alternative cases & projects with different power switches or no power switches at all. Thanks!
Hey I'm just curious about intel arc gpu performance on Linux nowadays, let's see how bad Intel are on every OS 😂
I really want put this in a fanless case. A Akasa Turing for example can cool this at 50W without any problems. Is there any solution?
What would this sbc computer be like if you took one of those m.2 nvme to oculink adapters to be able to plug a egpu in. Is there anyway you can try that eta prime?
Could this configuration play DCS(digital combat simulation)???
Bazzite isn't Steam Deck OS and the Steam Deck runs SteamOS 3.0...
I mean, I know it's for the clicks but still.
Just wondering if that's dual channel memory
Do you know a case thats large enough to fit 201 mm gpus?
So this is basically the same performance as the Ally X?
這種小主板 面臨主記憶體固定不可增加的問題。
我在想是否有人開發M.2介面的RAM CARD 以作為擴充記憶體用途。or RAM-Disk。
也許CPU廠商也可以考慮一個類似M.2尺寸的 專用記憶體擴充槽給特殊的環境使用，exp. small SBC；或者也許可以變成一個標準介面。
我知道現在可以用FLASH SSD充當這個任務，但畢竟反應速度不同延遲更低，尤其對小檔案的速度。還有壽命問題。
另外的理由是因為AI軟體對記憶體的需求。我們都還不知道AI會發展到吃多大的記憶體。
HX390 UP TO 96GB MAX! OMG
What do we call this form factor, nano-ITX?
Where can I buy this? Or is it not released yet?
Link for APU
can you test a minecraft server on that system
is there a reason why the gpu is not at 99% load? bottleneck somewhere?
hello is it possible to have the exact model every time I ask I am not answered thank you
this device would be perfect if it had 10gb ethernet instead of 2.5. Would be the perfect little diy home server to put your whole network on 10gb. R2 Max has the capability I’m talking about, but it has the low powered intel N100/305. Would be so nice to have a full powered Ryzen chip instead, that is if you’re less concerned about your power bill like me.
Stop calling Bazzite “Steam OS” because it’s not. Super misleading.
How does it compare to the steam deck?
❤
Please make an video on nvidia quadro T1000 graphic card with Lenovo tiny pc. Much Love ❤
"Di‘int" I know that accent but I can't place it.
what this name Amd ryzen 7840h i'm search not found website
is it not for sale yet or something
Where can I buy this?
is there a link to the website for this SBC?
How to set up waydroid?
and where can I buy it anyway?
Fan noise?
price?
Thr Bazzite link it doesn't work
Donde se ve el precio y demas?
When is this bad boy gonna be on indiegogo?