Turkey’s Influence on Bosnian Islam: Neo-Ottomanism Meets Post-Communism

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @cheksikkikoyyama5454
    @cheksikkikoyyama5454 3 года назад +58

    We love Bosnians and we are ready to die for Bosnian freedom. Bosnia will freedom forever.

  • @mapache69.
    @mapache69. Год назад +11

    Never understood why The Russians and Turks didn’t trade colonies. Russia should of ruled the Slavs, while the Turks ruled the Turkic People in Central asia

  • @rokiikor9270
    @rokiikor9270 2 года назад +32

    TURKIYE=BOSNIA=TURKIYE..No Nation loves TURKIYE more than BOSNIANS🇧🇦🇹🇷🇧🇦🇹🇷🇧🇦🇹🇷Always brothers OTTOMAN brothers

  • @TheGercek53
    @TheGercek53 2 года назад +11

    Im Bosnian my self, every nation does this they fixes churches or mosques or old building lol

  • @Canadianpatriot2024
    @Canadianpatriot2024 11 месяцев назад +4

    Allah akbar. Great that turkiye is back.

  • @jimmystewart3826
    @jimmystewart3826 Год назад +16

    I just wanna say big respect ❤-like both country Turkiye-Bosnia Herzegovine country n turkiye-bosnian people , long live rep of turkie n rep of bosnia herzegovina , Bravo turkiye n bosnia

    • @kirksdva8310
      @kirksdva8310 Год назад +4

      Bosnian is not Turkish ,. Ocupattor Ottoman impire During Ottoman Empire Turks taking smol kids from Cristian perent and goes to Turkey education in Islam and making soldiers from kids called janjicar .One of dem is Otman PASA Sokolovic . Pressure Cristian people by Tax Colled Harac .And people forsed to take Islam to survive.

    • @medinabecic2873
      @medinabecic2873 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kirksdva8310😂
      Was macht Christen schon mal daran gedacht

    • @pifi6618
      @pifi6618 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly! They enforced people to become muslims. They brainwashed them. I hope this might change one day for poor Bosniaks. :/

  • @ssk9702
    @ssk9702 2 года назад +47

    Ottoman sultans are BOSNIAN ☝️😎🇧🇦

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 года назад +15

      Indeed Bosniaks were part of the empire. They are still part of Turkey and part of our culture. We love them and their influence.

    • @alibasic1
      @alibasic1 2 года назад +12

      @@denizaran kanim kardesim, im bosnian, visiting istanbul in two weeks inshallah

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 года назад +5

      @@alibasic1 dobro dosli brate! I'm sure you will like it. I visited Sarajevo, Mostar and Neum 3 years ago and loved it. We're not tourists when we visit each others' countries. Which city are you from?

    • @alibasic1
      @alibasic1 2 года назад +6

      @@denizaran Im from Mostar brother! Glad you enjoyed it alhamdulillah. I hope you will return and I'm looking forward to see more of Istanbul.

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 года назад

      @@alibasic1 do you use insta?

  • @dollynina8992
    @dollynina8992 2 года назад +10

    3:20 I'm a Bosnian muslim and we were not oppressed by a communist state because we weren't even a communist state first of all.
    I can't speak for other religions, but Bosnian muslims lived pretty well in Yugoslavia.

    • @topmultichann6666
      @topmultichann6666 Год назад +12

      as a Bosnian I dont agree and honestly I am suspicious on that "I'm a Bosnian Muslim" that you said, just for you to know Muslims were oppresed and if u had Muslim name you would hardly progress in life(uzmi Olovo na primjer) so Muslims often gave their kids non Muslim names...

    • @dollynina8992
      @dollynina8992 Год назад

      @@topmultichann6666 de molim te, još gore je sad situacija nego kako je ikad bilo u Jugoslaviji. Moj dajđa prije nek sto poginuo u ratu je bio član socialisticka partija i prilićno uspješan čovjek u životu al se zvao Muhamed. Drugi muslimani su dali sprsko-hrvatsko imena jer su imali kompleks ispred srba i hrvata, bili su nekako stidljivi, i bi jeli svinjetino il' pili alkohol da se dokazuju sebe. Nije to bilo zbog ugnjetavanja od strane države, nego smo sami sebi ponižavljali.

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +20

    "The Ottamans set such a good example as pacific conquerors that they won the confidence of many former Byzantine subjects . For example , when Nicaea fell , Orhan allowed all who wanted to leave the city to depart freely , taking with them their holy relics , but few availed themselves of the chance . No reprisals were taken against those who had resisted , and the city was left to manage its internal affairs under its own municipal government . BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
    Pl spread this peace message to those who hate turkey

    • @Monteverde81
      @Monteverde81 2 года назад +10

      Ottomans pacific conquerors...!!???? 😳😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Jajajajjjjjjjjjj

    • @Syfonen
      @Syfonen 2 года назад

      Lies. They were brutal rapists and killers.

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +1

      @@Syfonen never. I have given Christian authors Evidence.i surprised that Few true and good authors are in Christian society especially in white world.

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 2 года назад

      LOL

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 2 года назад

      @@Monteverde81 Its Tuskish nationalist propaganda... In 10 years from now they'll be saying the Balkans attacked the Ottomans to justify new invasion

  • @turulszervac1714
    @turulszervac1714 Год назад +9

    Good to see Ottoman style Islam still survives in Bosnia

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +7

    To Turkish my brothers , please request ur government to conduct function, celebration for restoring orthodox patriarchate in constantinnople by Mehmet - 2 in 1453 AD DECEMBER. This will make u and ur neighbours with prosperous.
    Because u r living side by side with orthodox people.
    The enemies from western world will be defeated.

    • @haristhebosniaklion8584
      @haristhebosniaklion8584 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 11 месяцев назад

      Whole Europe is for them to make churches

    • @akbalushi4779
      @akbalushi4779 4 месяца назад

      Right especially turkiye needs good relations with Greece love turkiye from Iran sistan ❤️🇹🇷

  • @Zarghaam12
    @Zarghaam12 2 года назад +5

    We love humanity and would die for human freedom!

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +2

    ( i ). " The main reason for Ottaman success , however , was the development of stable and permanent institutions of government that transformed a tribal polity into a workable state ".
    ( ii ) " The Ottamans utilized all human resources in their emirate and quickly learned skills in bureaucracy and diplomacy ........ They also did not slaughter every Christian in their path ; rather , they encouraged the Christian inhabitants of the countryside and the towns to join them . Islamic law and tradition declared that enemies who surrendered on demand should be treated with tolerance .
    ( iii ). " The Christians of Bithynia were obliged to pay the ' harac ' , or capitation tax , for the privilege of being tolerated , but this was no more burdensome than the taxes they had paid to the Byzantine government , which had neglected their interests . Once they had made the decision to surrender or defect , the Byzantine population resigned to their fate ".
    " Some Christians converted to Islam upon joining the Ottamans ; however, this was not demanded . Many local Christians even participated in Ottaman raids against Byzantium ". BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
    "Existing sources , such as the 25th century Ottoman census records , suggest that the earliest converts to Islam in the Balkans came from the ranks of the Balkan nobility and military elite that could supply the Ottomans with the manpower ............. BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -146 .
    This is the reason for success in Balkan europe. So pl don't hate turkey. Be respectful

  • @mateivancic7369
    @mateivancic7369 9 месяцев назад +2

    Greets from the croats to the ottoman empire.
    We have a nice history together.😂

  • @haristhebosniaklion8584
    @haristhebosniaklion8584 2 года назад +6

    Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 11 месяцев назад +2

      They will always be like this whenever they will be given chance they will do worse than it so never forgive and never forget and beware and protect your women

  • @muratsevimcok2650
    @muratsevimcok2650 18 дней назад

    Turkiye will always support our Bosnian brothers and sisters

  • @tore705
    @tore705 Год назад +2

    Beautiful mosques.
    Beautiful country.

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 Год назад +5

    the sufferings and the agony of Balkan Muslims felt deeply by all the Muslim world and the Turks in particular, because the only reason for their sufferings simply because they are Muslims, wether they practice Islam or secular..

    • @syedrafi2258
      @syedrafi2258 11 месяцев назад

      But Turks are secular as hell and think about individualism ,good to know that there there is a sense of Muslim brotherhood in them for bosnians

    • @jivanselbi3657
      @jivanselbi3657 11 месяцев назад

      @@syedrafi2258 not only Bosnians, Albanians, generally Balkan muslims, you could say all Turks love Pakistan ..African muslims.. unfortunately I could not say the same for Arabs..though all the sensible practicing muslims among the Turks respect them, the negative propaganda used the first world war and some Arab tribes betrayel of the Ottoman army as pretext .. but things are changing اخس سيد رافع لا تحكم على الكل بسبب البعض

  • @medinabecic2873
    @medinabecic2873 11 месяцев назад +3

    Bračo Muslimansko 💚 💚 💚 💚

  • @mariocroatia9321
    @mariocroatia9321 2 года назад +13

    If Turkey decides to come back to the Balkans.... All the people of the Balkans will rise up to fight them.

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +5

      ( i ). " The main reason for Ottaman success , however , was the development of stable and permanent institutions of government that transformed a tribal polity into a workable state ".
      ( ii ) " The Ottamans utilized all human resources in their emirate and quickly learned skills in bureaucracy and diplomacy ........ They also did not slaughter every Christian in their path ; rather , they encouraged the Christian inhabitants of the countryside and the towns to join them . Islamic law and tradition declared that enemies who surrendered on demand should be treated with tolerance .
      ( iii ). " The Christians of Bithynia were obliged to pay the ' harac ' , or capitation tax , for the privilege of being tolerated , but this was no more burdensome than the taxes they had paid to the Byzantine government , which had neglected their interests . Once they had made the decision to surrender or defect , the Byzantine population resigned to their fate ".
      " Some Christians converted to Islam upon joining the Ottamans ; however, this was not demanded . Many local Christians even participated in Ottaman raids against Byzantium ". BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
      "Existing sources , such as the 25th century Ottoman census records , suggest that the earliest converts to Islam in the Balkans came from the ranks of the Balkan nobility and military elite that could supply the Ottomans with the manpower ............. BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -146 .
      This is the reason for success in Balkan europe. So pl don't hate turkey. Be respectful

    • @zahirhussain5913
      @zahirhussain5913 2 года назад +6

      Why do rise up to fight turkey ?
      "The Ottamans set such a good example as pacific conquerors that they won the confidence of many former Byzantine subjects . For example , when Nicaea fell , Orhan allowed all who wanted to leave the city to depart freely , taking with them their holy relics , but few availed themselves of the chance . No reprisals were taken against those who had resisted , and the city was left to manage its internal affairs under its own municipal government . BOOK : Encyclopaedia of the Ottoman Empire . AUTHOR : Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters . Edition : 2009 page -109 .
      Pl spread this peace message to those who hate turkey

    • @denizaran
      @denizaran 2 года назад +1

      It's not gonna happen

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 2 года назад +8

      @@zahirhussain5913 that's crap.
      why would ex colonies rise up against the colonisers?

    • @mariocroatia9321
      @mariocroatia9321 2 года назад

      @B B Maybe not you but Turkish nationalists do... And there are many of them

  • @ugur4511
    @ugur4511 8 месяцев назад

    Christianity is not a European religion in origin. In fact, the Romans fought Christians for a long time. The religion of the southern part of Europe was a pagan religion of Greek origin. There was a different pagan understanding in the north, that is, in the lands where the Romans were less influential. At the end of the Roman period, there was a transition from paganism to Christianity. The people in the north later converted to Christianity.

  • @tarik6990
    @tarik6990 5 месяцев назад

    If Muslim foreigners (and of course Bosniaks) want to stick to Islam and pray to Allah, they are welcome to do so and nobody has the right to stop them. However, Muslim foreigners should not come to Bosnia and claim that Bosniaks have been historically Muslim while insinuating that Yugoslavia or "Western" post-Yugo influence made us stray away from the righteous way of life. The religious dynamic is subject to change in accordance with the changes in the political and cultural backdrop.
    When you go for instance to Arab countries, the first thing you do is adhere to Muslim societal norms, dress code (that affects almost exclusively women), moral code, etc., so, following the same logic, when you come to Bosnia-Herzegovina, a secular state, you have to adhere to local behavioral norms even if you deem them not to be islamic enough. Things like niqabs, as well as casual street preachers and salafist infleuncers oriented at a young audience was never a part of these norms.

  • @northernstar4811
    @northernstar4811 2 года назад +6

    "Is Turkey returning to the Balkans"
    Its been 500 years of trouble making in Bosnia and the wider Balkans.

    • @tanjagak2097
      @tanjagak2097 Год назад

      No Turkey in not returning to the Balkans, now is coming to you part of Europe, Germany, Austria is full of them , you have it more Turkish people then Balkans during ottoman era

    • @ihanakaunotar2741
      @ihanakaunotar2741 Год назад

      True, turkey kept attacking south Europe for several centuries and basically created the crusades 😂

  • @CityCobra86
    @CityCobra86 9 месяцев назад +1

    🇹🇷💪🐺 Turks are overall Türkiye is the Ottoman Empire Capital Country and Istanbul was the Capital City of Ottoman Empire.All the Weapons and Clothes from Sultans are in 🇹🇷 Museum and all the Graves of Ottoman Sultans are in Türkiye.🇹🇷💪🐺☝️☪️

  • @hanadyare4735
    @hanadyare4735 Год назад

    Whith out islam you know what happed serbs never ever left the religios a side

  • @bosanskenaufalevic7370
    @bosanskenaufalevic7370 2 года назад +4

    There's no neo-ottomanism in Bosnia

  • @allysoobratty7565
    @allysoobratty7565 Год назад +5

    Long Live the OTTOMAN EMPIRE ❤❤❤

  • @nergnera5205
    @nergnera5205 Год назад +1

    Sons of Fatih are single Nation...

  • @kimimiey2206
    @kimimiey2206 2 года назад +9

    Ottoman empire come back

    • @haristhebosniaklion8584
      @haristhebosniaklion8584 2 года назад

      Yeah, it is very heroic what was done to Muslims in Bosnia,Iraq,Afghanistan ,Palestine,Syria, it takes such courage to bully people and nations who can’t fight back right ( Disgusting ) ,even tho I was rejected a lot and called ugly when it’s not my fault ( Poor Me ) I still feel bad for our Bosniak women and young girls during the aggression, ( YOU KNOW ) and nope ,I don’t hate on Serbian and American women/girls.❤️❤️. Justice and Peace for Muslims!!!!!☝️.I want GOOD to WIN over EVIL!!!!!!!!!!✌️

    • @kirksdva8310
      @kirksdva8310 Год назад

      Haaaaa but this time is different . No more

  • @flyingsoulshigh
    @flyingsoulshigh 2 года назад +3

    I highly criticize Today Turkish influence on restoration of historical ottoman monuments look at careva/emperors mosques in Sarajevo, the mindset of carpetbagger companies involved in restoration just destroyed the invaluable priceless value of authenticity and mysticism which was allocated soul by passing of hundreds of years in Careva Dzamija Emprerors Mosque 🕌 in sarajevo where as a faithful servant you could feel some kind of portal gate there.❤
    in the balkans
    Todays turks have much to learn from bosniaks Bosnian ottoman heritage especially about the core of Hodja Ahmad Yasawi philosophy to crack down misinterpretation of protecting itikadh , while protecting your prescribed islamic faith sourced from sunnah and Quran you confuse that with narrow mindedness
    Bosnian muslims are cleanest of ummah look how pretty their mosques are. Like in västervås Sweden.
    We had 100 million piece of Bosniak muslims in the world
    Representation of Islam would be very different than today

    • @abdussametfiliz5484
      @abdussametfiliz5484 Год назад +1

      Thank Allah and than the Turks for who you are without the Turks next time they will kick you out if the Balkans.

  • @aldredtawasil9339
    @aldredtawasil9339 2 года назад +3

    Balkan ottoman ...

    • @tanjagak2097
      @tanjagak2097 Год назад

      Turkish go back to Tatarstan that is where you belong

  • @navylaks2
    @navylaks2 2 года назад +24

    This is why Türkey must never be allowed inside the EU or Europe in general, Bosnians must accept they live in secular Europe.

    • @MrBreastOfficial
      @MrBreastOfficial 2 года назад +38

      wtf are you talking about?!

    • @abdullahsaif2065
      @abdullahsaif2065 2 года назад +31

      Ridiculous comment

    • @Üstad_15
      @Üstad_15 2 года назад

      Turks has more freedom than some of that eu lmfao . 1850s they was even gave sexual rights + 1920 women election

    • @ib368
      @ib368 2 года назад +8

      I totally agree with you, navylaks2. I am a Bosnian myself and I believe religious extremism is at the heart of this issue. All three religious groups in Bosnia want to show off their pious prestige by not only rebuilding already destroyed religious sites but also building many more. The country does not have the funding to restore, let say, old medieval castles or protect medieval tombstones from being literally swallowed by the earth. Somehow, however, money seems to be falling from the sky whenever a new mosque or church is being built. It is all about the constant “our God is greater” rhetoric, which is also backed by Turkey in the case of the Bosnian Muslims. Tribalism at its best, unfortunately.

    • @gomiladroogies5951
      @gomiladroogies5951 2 года назад +11

      @@ib368 Turkey has invested a lot more than just religious buildings also in serbia too. It isnt religious extremism, although i agree Balkans does have a problem with wasting money on religious buildings.

  • @ahmed_obeid_bin_daghr
    @ahmed_obeid_bin_daghr 2 года назад +5

    BOSNIA IS SYRIA!!!!!! 🇸🇾🇸🇾🇸🇾🇸🇾

  • @lidiabano4698
    @lidiabano4698 9 месяцев назад +1

    turkey conquered bosnia. serbs and croats converted to islam over centuries. 50% of bosnia.

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 8 месяцев назад +1

      Bosnians converted to Islam. Serbs and Croats kept being Christians in Serbia and Croatia. Some of them also converted to Islam but not in the near numbers as Bosnians did.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 7 месяцев назад

      The Ottomans 'conquered' Bosnia. The 'Turkish' State was established only a century ago.

  • @sj4632
    @sj4632 6 месяцев назад

    disgusting...

  • @lidiabano4698
    @lidiabano4698 9 месяцев назад +1

    turkey messed up bosnia forever.

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 8 месяцев назад

      Why did they mess up Bosnia forever?

    • @mda990
      @mda990 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Gazija1 as long as Bosniak Muslims live in Bosnia, it is a messed place for islamophobic racists. take care of yourselves bro. Selam to Bosnia from Turkey🤝

    • @clericaltotalitarian
      @clericaltotalitarian 8 месяцев назад

      @@mda990 Stay away from our country, nobody asked you ANYTHING.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 7 месяцев назад

      The Turkish State has little to do with Bosnian history. The Ottoman State does.

  • @heyhej1
    @heyhej1 Год назад +1

    Why spreading hate and lies?!?!
    Serbs did not commit genocide, it was a Civil War in the 90's .....besides Bosnian Muslim leader Fikret Abdić and his followers fought in that war against Alija Izetbegović and his mujahedeens.
    By the way Alija Izetbegović sold his people (all military ready men) for American air strike, this is why the Terror happened in Srebrenica....if you don't believe ask the local leaders from Srebrenica... 🍻

    • @Gazija1
      @Gazija1 8 месяцев назад

      Only lies coming here is from your fake comment.
      VRS backed up by Serbian government committed genocide and that is a fact. Anything else coming from your comment is a try to rewrite historical written facts.
      So better try next time.

    • @clericaltotalitarian
      @clericaltotalitarian 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Gazija1 Lol, western propaganda. Those lies don't work anymore.

  • @clericaltotalitarian
    @clericaltotalitarian 8 месяцев назад

    This is one of the main problems of Bosnia, this foreign influence has GOT to stop, and it will, one day. That goes for Turkish influence too, NOBODY wants it, it only divides the native population itself in the name of Turkish political interests which we could not care less about. The Ottomans were occupiers and that is final, they shall never be celebrated anywhere in the Balkans.

    • @shihabuddin7632
      @shihabuddin7632 8 месяцев назад +1

      It seems Bosniak wants it. Of course if you are radical Christian who wants to do genocide you will be against it.

  • @clericaltotalitarian
    @clericaltotalitarian 8 месяцев назад

    This is one of the main problems of Bosnia, this foreign influence has GOT to stop, and it will, one day. That goes for Turkish influence too, NOBODY wants it, it only divides the native population itself in the name of Turkish political interests which we could not care less about. The Ottomans were occupiers and that is final, they shall never be celebrated anywhere in the Balkans.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 7 месяцев назад

      Who's going to protect the Islamic people in the Balkans then. Europeans? The UN? We saw quite well how that turned out.