ASUS ROG Flow Z13 review
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2022
- The Asus ROG Flow Z13 is a gaming tablet that looks like a Surface Pro, but it can run many games at playable frame rates. It’s not an affordable device, and it can’t run demanding games well, but it’s an impressive effort.
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Set up elite gamer tablet command station encampment at Starbucks y/n
Until the surface or this gaming surface look a like. Has a full android app store (not amazon) I have zero interest in them. But that's my view ofc
I will never buy a convertible touch screen laptop without this. And Microsoft needs to get with program. Apple MacBook air has some ios apps (and doesn't have a touch xcreen) so it's coming soon. So Microsoft better catch up
Or once apple makes a surface look a like with full ioss apps (and axes its ipad) I will leave Microsoft and not be loyal anymore
I'd like to see a Z13 Flow model with cheaper AMD graphics configuration, maxed out at twelve hundred but capable enough for video editing and quieter fans.
@@VirtousStoic You got remember Apple owns both IOS and MacOs, Microsoft has to rely on Google to move the playstore over but Google wants to sell more of their chromeos platform that one reason why Google won't allow the playstore on windows.
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Totally going to get one. I'm the perfect demographic.
Asus is doing a tremendous thing messing up the tablet market. This is not for every one , but whenever someone is crossing the 1600$ mark, they will have a look into this. In some years, this price will go down and become more viable all the users.
I was very excited to see this in CES.
So in reality this isn’t much more than an m1 iPad. But it’s a full computer.
@@zt9233 it's more powerful and useful than a m1, I have an m1.
@@oo--7714 sorry I meant the price isn't much more but it can do anything a full computer can.
@@oo--7714 I too fell for that trap
@@zt9233 i like to play fortnight on my tablet 😅😊😮😮😮
I'll always be sad I won't see more Dieter on The Verge. But Cameron totally killed it here! Very well done, and I can't wait to see more!
Wait, he left?!
@@anonymous.54 yea lol
I subscribed because of this review
Dieter totally was in this video
@@rotinoma yeah, in old b-roll. He's moved on to Google.
You are a good reviewer/presenter/talker. Welcome to the verge, hope you stay
Ty for the heart, I have loved your channel since I was a teenager. Means alot
@@VirtousStoic you’re famous bro! You got a heart! :)
You’re a really nice guy
Can't wait to see more laptops/ tables/2 in 1s like this. Love that Asus is not scared to innovate.
agreed!
This wasn't talked about a lot. This video was much needed because what ASUS has managed to do is revolutionary. They have made a fully performing gaming machine out of a 13-inch slab.
Cameron, really loved how you delivered those lines about your "work" :)
thx for review!
I haven't seen this guy before. More with him plz
Bought the X13 last year and I am drooling over the Z13. Wish that Asus has an upgrade promo or something. Great review BTW! Cheers!
This is a good review. This is an interesting review of one of those cool crossover products and the review is well-paced and compelling. Great job reviewing a non Apple, Samsung, Google, Sony, LG, Dell product with some genuine enthusiasm!👍
"I can do some work"
Boots up Elden Ring
Killed it man. Can’t wait for more screen time for Cameron!
This is exactly the gaming machine I was waiting for…I spend almost half of the year traveling. And I love playing games with my friends and alone sometimes. This ultra portable and ultra powerful solution match my needs perfectly. Is it expansive? Probably, but it’s unique and it does what he promise to deliver, so if you travel a lot like me and like gaming, this is t,he best you can get out there in my humble opinion!
I've been using mine for the past 3 days - i900H, 3050ti and if you love tablets and also want an ultraportable powerful gaming device you will love this.
Just look at it as a slightly more expensive and thicker Surface Pro 8, but far more powerful.
@@AdmiralBison if you actually price in the i9 Processor, GPU, the added Keyboard, GDDR5 Ram, and 1tb m.2... it's wayyyyyy cheaper than the Surface Pro 8. The 1tb version of the surface pro is $2140 on best buy as of right now. That's without the type cover, just a i7 processor and 16gb of ram. No GPU either. Lol. As far as tablets go... This by far is the most powerful cheapest. Simply because of the i9, 3050ti, and type cover coming with it.
Until you learn about the 3 hour battery life
@@blue4059 I dont game with this on the go I.e. not near a wall socket.
Frankly battery technology ‘is not there yet to meet the demands of more powerful devices.
@@blue4059 nope...portability doesn't mean playing triple A games while on the bus, but bringing your laptop with you while traveling, and be able to use it wherever you are (plugged of course). I can use it for browsing, streaming and mail on the go, as a tablet. If I want to play, always plugged! BTZ, today you can plug it even in the airplane in the long range flight...
This was an excellent review. Thanks!
As a user of suface device I could proudly say that form factor is so useful and practical.
I know mostly everyone thinks 1080p as minimum when talking gaming , but would it really be a sin to play on 720p ? I bet the smoothness would be worth it, specially since crazy resolutions don't make much sense at this screen size
i have the z13 with the 3050. i love this machine it doesn't take up much room. it handles all my studies digital photography an gaming. wow classic runs great max out. i have it connected to 2 15.6 innoview portable monitors, dorm rooms are small so a machine that i can have 3 displays an can grab an go as a tablet to class. is an awesome edition to my life
Brings back memories of Vaio's Power Media Dock!
Cameron bringing those Dieter vibes! Really great review man.
I’ve noticed Cameron’s name on The Verge articles before, usually either him or Monica will write laptop reviews. Good to see him on the channel!
Great review 🙌🏼
nice job showing the Patches NPC when mentioning Elden Ring patches
I’ve been waiting for this comment all morning :)
So, as I'm not a gamer, but on the look for a decent and fast windows tablet, this Asus Flow might be for me!
I wanted to get Surface Pro for work and mobility recently. Instead of a monitor I want to use VR Googles in the future, Unfortunately Surface Pro gpu hardly manages to run VR. This Asus tablet is perfect for a mobile VR work setup AND it can play games AND it costs less than surface pro with the same specs without a keyboard (sic!)
I have a Surface Pro and I use it for 3D animation on Blender and Maya. This tablet would be perfect for me, since I travel often and need a powerul computer in a tablet form factor.
Which pro model do you have? I have the 2017 model and I do video productions, livestreams and online trainings for my company, and I'm often traveling to on-site visits. I prefer to travel light and have been considering the Surface Laptop Studio but if the Surface Pro 8 is capable enough for 3D and Blender then that could save some cost and precious space on my carry-on.
Buy it and write it off as a business expense
@@WilliamSteppan I have the Surface Pro 7 , since I work in animation I use it for storyboards, modeling and animating most of the time. But when it comes to bigger 3D projects like procedural texturing, big animations and renders I use my desktop computer.
For what price did you find the rog flow z13? I also sometimes do 3D modeling in Maya to create prototypes of products. It is possible that it will be necessary to create 3D animation. But 2075 US dollars for i7 and rtx 3050 in Germany , I don't even know if I need such power, because I'm still a student.
Please give me some advice !
It has impressed everyone yet its the perfect device for no one
There's probably one rich person out there buying.
Student/gamer ?
I'd buy it without the eGPU if it had stylus support. The integrated RTX gpu will work fine with nvidia broadcast studio and with stylus support it would be a good option for wfh/remote meetings.
@@PotentChr0nic I have one it supports a Surface pen
If you can pick this thing up on sale for close to 1000$ like I did it’s the best gaming laptop/tablet you can buy, it’s replacement my main rig with an rtx 2070 in it
Love the review... I wonder if it is good for graphic designing and video editing ☺️
A gaming tablet makes tons of sense. If they partnered with Microsoft and used the same doc hookup it would be a perfect home/work device that can game.
A lot of people still don't understand or get the 'Tablet' form factor :
Surface Pro 8, 12.9 iPad Pro, Galaxy Tab S8+\Ultra etc...
So naturally will not see the value or use case for something like this right away.
However for tablet lovers that also want power to AAA game - I RECOMMEND this.
I know because I've been using my Z Flow 13 - i900, 3050Ti for the past 3 days playing
Fallout 4, Elden Ring, Star Craft II, Halo Infinite and PS3, Xbox360 and Switch emulation.
The screen is good for 13" and you can get away running the latest AAA games at 720P to hit those 60 fps.
This reviewer is a beast, throwing all convention out the window...masked up in his own living room and shoes on the couch.
You know there’s a film crew in there as well, right?
Correct. We also have filmed this in a shared space in our office, too.
But I agree, Cameron’s a beast ;)
@@betaprotocol That's true and you do a wonderful job as well. Takes a team as they say.
I am thinking of the 13th Gen Intel version as my Microsoft surface 8 is lacking and has gpu glitching issues when using some apps
but can't wait to buy it prob in mid may
When you connect the egpu to get better performance you should put and external display
Does the egpu come with it or do you have to buy it separately
I want an RMT version of this. Or at least for Asus to fix USB-C PD notification issues.
I felt like am watching an apple commercial but for the "ASUS ROG Flow Z13"... quite engaging!! :)
I wish Asus made a detachable Zenbook laptop. They already have something like that for their Vivobook series
Good review. Finally someone mentioning the downsides of a 16:10 aspect ratio! I get that it's better for productivity, but I hate black bars when watching video.
That’s such a minor inconvenience…
A lot of RUclips creators are going by 18:9 or 20:9, so there’ll be black bars on 16:9 screens anyway.
Really depends on your preferred source of video entertainment.
@Arte Floe OCD spotted. I got one, the display is really bright, sharp and good. I don't mind the bar, great sound too
Nicely nuanced video. Z13 is very cool tech, just not practical in many ways and probably not the best choice for many people (including me).
Does the keyboard work if it is not plugged into the tablet? I’d like to leave space between the keyboard and screen if possible
For portability and work with Autocad, should I get this or Microsoft Surface Pro i7?
nice video. may I use it as a workstation? I work mobile and this is what I needed.
Can i get the ROG Z13 or X13 connected on Tablet high speed datas to game? So I won't use my At&t Netgear Hotspot data on my RoG Ally ?
Can you use a different dock if you just want to run like 2 or 3 monitors on it? I'm not familiar with Asus laptops so I wasn't sure where with surface everything runs through that surface port and you get pretty much nothing else. Thanks!
the x16 was released recently after the x13 released last year, i hope that means we’ll be seeing a z16 at CES2023
Can this computer run most games well enough even if they’re not perfect would you recommend a different computer for the same price or is this computer still worth getting?
I'm curious how Unreal Engine 5 performs on this tablet. And also for video editing
The Acronym collab model looks SO GOOD, TAKE MY MONEY CAPITALIST DADDY
I see what you did there with patches.
The smirk on his face says it all 😏
You need to do an update video because the 310 Bios that was released on 3/29 fixed all the performance issues. Elden Ring is smooth as hell and I'm getting about 70-80fps plugged in now.
Is this an update or newer model?
@@emilioortiz5699 This was for the 2022 version with the 3050ti. I have the Z13 ACRNM now with the RTX 4070. Thing destroys all games. Over 100FPS alone at 1440P.
Great review, interesting device. I'm not a gamer but do a lot of multi-media stuff that uses a gpu, but not at the level of the most demanding games. So it's in a middle ground -- in between no discrete gpu like the Surface Pro 8, and a full-on gaming computer, which is overkill for me.
I'd like to know how the inking/painting experience is on this. That's another feature I use a lot on my Windows devices. Anyway, thanks for an informative and nuanced review!
I like the review a lot, the tablet is pretty good too.
new guy? nice. like him 👍🏻good video
So... possibly a stupid question.
Anyone know how well this runs VR? I used to use a ROG laptop to run the original RIFT, but its been so long since I've touched the headset that I don't know what the state of it is, in terms of hardware required to run.
With and without the eGPU, I'm curious if anyone knows. :)
Why didn’t you test cyberpunk with dlss on the internal 3050ti but do on xg mobile?
this rig will be real good for dev!
Ah… I want a 15’’ or 16’’ version of this. Would love to have a numpad on that keyboard :3
The real comparison I want to see is gaming on this and the Steam Deck.
You comparing windows switch and steamdeck lite
U deserve more views than mine, greatjob with the content
Cameron's real OP!
Does this come with the egpu I’ve seen in different videos
With the amount of money they are asking you can make a desktop, even with inflated prices
Can it be placed into portrait mode?
Which is that game at 4:39 ?
Wonder how many frames you would be getting by replacing that XG Mobile with a razor chroma X and a real desktop GPU
If only they made one with a 7" screen and detachable controllers on the sides 🎮 😆
I think you might be after the Steam Deck than, given the steam deck can run all the AAA games.....unlike a certain Nintendo console
I’m waiting for the next surface pro with core ultra 🥳
Thinking of upgrading my Surface Pro 7 to this.
Does it have pen too?
Note that Asus is still operating in Russia, depending on your values you might want to consider other brands. (HP, Dell, Sony...)
this is going to be my new gameing tablet right now i have a leovo thinkpad e15
Does this tablet have a gyro sensor?
What is that isometric game hes playing
I'm laughing so hard at the intro where he talks about doing work and watching TV but just plays Elden Ring 24/7 instead
If this were reasonably priced it would be great
Why can't I find the i9 with 120hz?
why i never able to connect the ps5 controller with Bluetooth =[
No one is going to mention homie putting his shoes on the couch?
If I was rich, I would so get this... but I'm not so... yeah... I hope they keep the concept alive and keep rolling with it till we see more affordable versions one day.
40 fps is not bad considering the ps4 pro runs it at 30 fps
Production note: this is a good video person for this channel!
However, to include Dieter in B-roll footage just takes us out of the moment and back to the golden age, lol
We shot the b-roll on the day he left, so I prefer to view it as an homage 😄
@@CameronFaulkner1989 Thanks for replying. I figured it was from some previous review! Great gesture, the guy is legendary... and "more Dieter" never hurts lol. BTW Cameron, I do think you are very well-suited for this channel, even when it's just VO work. I'd love for some other Verge presenters to level up to what you've shown here, especially regarding pacing.
@@rlfernandes9538 I really appreciate the feedback! We all have our own styles that we're working on, being relatively new to doing video, so everyone will blossom in different ways I'm sure. Thanks again
this stylus gimick,, not palm rejection?
Can it Blender?
Kinda cool maybe next version will be a winner.
Its competiton is the Surface pro devices... Not gaming laptops. And higher end surface pro costs just as much and doesn't offer performance anywhere close to this.
And the XG mobile dock is a great feature - you can get incredible performance and a stupid number of ports while at home and also get acceptable performance on the go.
You can get an eGPU for the SP8 as well, and for other laptops. i Think that I would wait for the SP9 and get that setup as MS has better QC and integrate software and hardware better. Plus it is not as oot-there as the ASUS, that will maybe give the wrong impression at the office.
@@andyH_England I traded my SP7 for this Asus and couldn't be happier - I considered the SP8 but it's slower and more expensive than the Asus, and while the SP8 does support an eGPU since it (finally) has Thunderbolt the latency and bandwidth limitations of TB make a desktop 3080 eGPU slower than the mobile 3080 in the Asus add-on (not to mention the compactness of the Asus XG eGPU makes it portable).
@@andyH_England Thunderbolt is limited to PCIe X4, so it bottlenecks any modern GPU. You can't use a 3080 eGPU on a Surface.
Why would you compare Z13 to the Steam Deck.
Can we play dota2 on this tablet?
Biggest issue for me was the poor response from the screen. Deal breaker for me
Why is that footage of Dieter with an iPad is cropped? I found it a bit weird
@TheRealBandito but it only brings more attention to it, doesn't it? If they didn't want to show him, they should have filmed with someone else
No intention there, it’s just how it was filmed when we initially did that review.
@@TheVerge thanks for taking the time to answer. Still looks a bit weird to me 🤷
I'm confused. Is this a review or a commercial?! 😁🤣
Once I heard 1899 I checked out
Really like the review but I think oversmiling isn't good either
5:21
I saw what you did there.
It just need a touchscreen and a pen to start drawing for me to be interested
thx for the good review .. using the z13 with i9 for 4 month now ....what a strange piece of technologie ... its an i9 with a 3500ti....in a tablet...its not a tablet .the cooling system cool..itsa computer...next gen....i love it my new amiga2023 hhh....xcom 2 is outstanding...other games too..hard to find the egpu..pete
La bateria cuanto te dura con programas pesados?
asus gaming tablet yes we got one
Nice ad!
I just got this and got to say I love this thing. The only complaint is the battery life being poor. I hardly get 45mins of use with gaming.
Solo 45 min?
Y com programas pesados cuanto dura?
There is one big problem with this review. They never considered versatility (until the conclusion statement)
This is awesome for 3d artists
So it’s better to buy a laptop with 3050ti + touchscreen + i9
It’s a good concept and i hope asus keep developing it but right now the biggest problem is its price