Splitting hairs here… but you typically shoot bottom barrel first since it has less recoil and sets you up for the second shot easier. The second shot out of the top barrel is also more accurate with the site rail so you would want it to be your distance shot. I use IC and M in the same general way you do but switch them around.
I like the logic. For whatever reason, I rarely find myself taking a follow up shot. I do think I'm gonna try some new choke combos this season to see if there's a better system. Thanks for watchin!
For your viewers, another layer of information/detail to what you provided in this very useful video, is how the foliage cover changes (thins out) as the Fall season progresses and as leaves start to drop. This changes the behaviour of the birds as the season progresses, such that they will begin to no longer hold as tight/close to the brush/trees/bushes they are hiding in, and will start to flush earlier in order to escape because they know they are more visible. In other words, the choice of chokes generally does not remain static through the season for a given area and style of hunting. For grouse, I personally also use an O/U 20-ga shotgun, and typically start the season (in Eastern Canada mixed forest) using Improved Cylinder and Modified chokes ( a la the legendary Gene Hill's enduring advice), but then shift to a Skeet 1 and Improved Modified, or a Skeet 2 as the season progresses and the foliage cover thins out. Sometimes even an Improved Cylinder can be too tight a choke at close range and even with a 20-gauge shotgun, it can literally blow a large hole through your bird. My son had this happen to him yesterday here in Quebec on season opening day. The bird was probably about 6 yards from the muzzles of his barrels (with imperfect visibility by the time my son was ready to take the shot), and he lost some upper breast meat to shot damage as a result.
Interesting. I'm also using improve cylinder on a 26 barell auto loader. There are time where a modified or full choke could be useful for those 40yard short. I find that the IC is much better for flying bird.
Yeah I find myself using IC the most... headed out tomorrow to look for birds. Think I might try a new choke/barrel setup. I'll share in the video if I get into some birds 👍
20 ga with a full or long range choke is hands down the best for grouse. When taking shots at 20 yards aim a couple inches over their head and the pattern will not hit the meat. All my grouse breasts have been lead free since I started using this technique.
Steel shot doesn't spread as much as lead. If you use Improved Cylinder (IC) for lead, a more open Cylinder choke might give a similar pattern with steel shot. I like Federal Upland Steel #6 for small game.
you should look into square loads or english field loads. its why certain rounds work better than others. payload width ='s payload height = majic. its why 12 gauge 1 1/8-1/4 oz and then 20 gauge 1 oz do like a gauge heavier
Splitting hairs here… but you typically shoot bottom barrel first since it has less recoil and sets you up for the second shot easier. The second shot out of the top barrel is also more accurate with the site rail so you would want it to be your distance shot. I use IC and M in the same general way you do but switch them around.
I like the logic. For whatever reason, I rarely find myself taking a follow up shot. I do think I'm gonna try some new choke combos this season to see if there's a better system. Thanks for watchin!
For your viewers, another layer of information/detail to what you provided in this very useful video, is how the foliage cover changes (thins out) as the Fall season progresses and as leaves start to drop. This changes the behaviour of the birds as the season progresses, such that they will begin to no longer hold as tight/close to the brush/trees/bushes they are hiding in, and will start to flush earlier in order to escape because they know they are more visible. In other words, the choice of chokes generally does not remain static through the season for a given area and style of hunting. For grouse, I personally also use an O/U 20-ga shotgun, and typically start the season (in Eastern Canada mixed forest) using Improved Cylinder and Modified chokes ( a la the legendary Gene Hill's enduring advice), but then shift to a Skeet 1 and Improved Modified, or a Skeet 2 as the season progresses and the foliage cover thins out.
Sometimes even an Improved Cylinder can be too tight a choke at close range and even with a 20-gauge shotgun, it can literally blow a large hole through your bird. My son had this happen to him yesterday here in Quebec on season opening day. The bird was probably about 6 yards from the muzzles of his barrels (with imperfect visibility by the time my son was ready to take the shot), and he lost some upper breast meat to shot damage as a result.
Some really great info in this comment. I've pinned it to the top
Thanks for getting me off the couch I’m going grouse hunting.
Hell yeah!
Yeah! Me too. Got myself a nice over/under 20 and going this weekend. 3 days sleeping in the woods.
Get some!
Thank you for adding to my vast knowledge of chokes!
You taught me everything I know
Got my first ruffed grouse the other day; used steel #5 w/ IC choke in Mossberg 835; got her on the fly 20 yards
Nice!!! Get some
I own the same CZ in a 12, LOVE IT , like all of your videos also<
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Yeah it's a great gun. Thanks!
Interesting. I'm also using improve cylinder on a 26 barell auto loader. There are time where a modified or full choke could be useful for those 40yard short. I find that the IC is much better for flying bird.
Yeah I find myself using IC the most... headed out tomorrow to look for birds. Think I might try a new choke/barrel setup. I'll share in the video if I get into some birds 👍
20 ga with a full or long range choke is hands down the best for grouse. When taking shots at 20 yards aim a couple inches over their head and the pattern will not hit the meat. All my grouse breasts have been lead free since I started using this technique.
That's awesome. I like hearing different stuff like this. I may have to give it a shot
I'm surprised they let you get close enough to choke em!
But seriously very educational. Thank you! I need to get a nice break action over/under. my pump action is trash.
Over under for the win!
Good information. Thanks for the video
Heck yeah! Thanks
Steel shot doesn't spread as much as lead. If you use Improved Cylinder (IC) for lead, a more open Cylinder choke might give a similar pattern with steel shot. I like Federal Upland Steel #6 for small game.
I was just filming a video about shotgun shells and brought this exact thing up! Very useful into. Thanks for sharing with everyone!
Hi buddy I hunt ruffer grouges and small red squirrels what choke I need to uses and I have double barrel train star shotgun
Man it really depends on distance, gun, terrain, foliage, etc. Can't really go wrong with improved cylinder though
you should look into square loads or english field loads. its why certain rounds work better than others. payload width ='s payload height = majic. its why 12 gauge 1 1/8-1/4 oz and then 20 gauge 1 oz do like a gauge heavier
I'll look into it
Also P was wondering where samsquanch is!?!
He's always watching
Grouse Skeet then Imp Cyc.
That'll work!
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