Intel CPU Undervolting Guide Asus MSI Gigabyte 13th 14th Gen

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  • Intel CPU temps are just getting crazy, no matter what cooling youre using. So here is a basic guide on how to lower your volts your system puts in automatically to lower your system temps.
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    00:10 Why has it taken so long?
    01:00 Why cant I just have your voltages?
    02:00 The TTL way?
    04:25 What Programs do I need?
    06:58 MSI System Specs
    09:52 Gigabyte / Corsair System Specs
    11:27 Asus / Coolermaster System Specs
    13:33 Initial System Set Up - XMP?
    14:17 MSI Bios Initial Set up
    15:35 Gigabyte Bios Initial Set Up
    17:05 Asus Bios Initial Set Up
    18:02 Initial Bench Marks - Critical to have a starting point
    20:30 MSI Load Line Calibration
    21:55 Gigabyte Load Line Calibration
    24:00 Asus Load Line Calibration
    25:20 Lowering Voltages - What to watch for?
    Worth considering your cooling settings here also. You may need to max your coolers out for Cinebench 24 no matter what. So before moving onto downclocking make sure your cooling is being utilised as much as possible.
    28:55 MSI Bios Downclocking
    31:00 Gigabyte Bios Downclocking
    31:50 Asus Bios Downclocking
    34:00 Performance Changes
    35:20 What happens if its unstable in a year?
    37:50 Temp & Performaance Changes
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  • @Chef_-xv7ms
    @Chef_-xv7ms 6 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you and it;s really nice to have you back!

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      Have me back? I've not been anywhere 😂

  • @Jeboi96
    @Jeboi96 2 месяца назад +12

    why use fixed volts? and not offset. because in fixed it will allways run high voltages also in idle.

    • @lifeordeath13
      @lifeordeath13 27 дней назад

      Also waiting for some good explanation in this

    • @Iwek1
      @Iwek1 7 дней назад

      ​@@lifeordeath13if you run fixed clock and voltage, actually cpu degrades slower becuse it doesnt shifts the clocks and voltages all the time. prime example 6600k 1.32->1.34v 4.6ghz. you just need to run cpu with limits of cooler. back the i was on noctua cooler, and now with 9900k with 240aio. goal is to keep cpu under 75C to get that longetivity and slow degrade that can keep runin cpu for 15-20y

  • @JMUDoc
    @JMUDoc 6 месяцев назад +13

    I would advocate using the LEAST aggressive LLC for undervolting - there is a phenomenon called _undershoot_ that gets worse with more aggressive LLC, and if you are undervolting, undershoots can dip into unstable territory. Buildzoid has some great videos about it; you need an oscilloscope to know what's going on!
    Less aggressive LLC means higher set/idle voltage (doesn't matter, because there's no current), but lower stable _load_ voltages.

  • @Excalabur50
    @Excalabur50 6 месяцев назад

    What a chuffin epic video Guv! An aweful lot of work went into this and despite it being 40 mins long it truly didn't feel like it ❤

  • @KevinsGaming-zx3bg
    @KevinsGaming-zx3bg 6 месяцев назад

    Man you made my day. You have huge experience. In every video i learn many things. Thank you so much.❤

  • @AngryChineseWoman
    @AngryChineseWoman 6 месяцев назад +11

    I have a 13700K and an Asus z790 motherboard, I managed to undervolt the cpu with a negative offset of -0.05v and LLC 3. The performance loss was minimal, non existent in games. I lost maybe 7 or 8 degrees.

    • @a1smith
      @a1smith 5 месяцев назад

      Your way is hardly worth the effort for just 7 or 8 degrees.

    • @AngryChineseWoman
      @AngryChineseWoman 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@a1smith Totally worth it in my opinion, not just the temperature loss, but my air cooler is less noisy

    • @TransformHypnosis
      @TransformHypnosis 4 месяца назад +5

      @@a1smith 7-8 degrees is HUGE on this generation, which struggles with low clocks/crashes because of overheating

    • @NotHamoodeG
      @NotHamoodeG 4 месяца назад

      @AngryChineseWoman how did you undervolt it where that option in asus motherboard? Is it global cpu voltage or smth?

    • @TrueBlade-1889
      @TrueBlade-1889 2 месяца назад +1

      @a1smith
      It is if your temps are approaching 100 degrees !!!​

  • @Moboproc
    @Moboproc 5 месяцев назад +8

    Great video. It was really awesome of you to demonstrate multiple BIOS vendors as well as help folks out there who may have lower end air cooling.

  • @Kirainne
    @Kirainne 6 месяцев назад +7

    Excellent video! I've had some long term experience and this just validated my understanding of how to get my system running more efficiently.

  • @jostnyc
    @jostnyc 5 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thanks for trying to cover different motherboards. This was very helpful. Subbed.

  • @AngryChineseWoman
    @AngryChineseWoman 6 месяцев назад +10

    Thanks for all the hard work

  • @HollywoodEDC
    @HollywoodEDC 6 месяцев назад +3

    Id love to help you guys prepare a "Adaptive/Dynamic" method for using adaptive voltage and LLC to undervolt on ASUS. I dont have the video production skills or editor to make a great video, but I could write the script and give you guys the skeleton. Reach out if that's something your interested in OC3D.

  • @BareKragujevdza
    @BareKragujevdza 5 месяцев назад +4

    14:20 MSI
    31:52 ASUS
    thanx!

  • @kasi7777
    @kasi7777 4 месяца назад

    Hi, can totaly agree your undervolting arguments. But in the MSI-BIOS: "CPU Loadline Calibration Control" should set to auto or mode 4-6. Mode 1-3 (in particular 1) have the risks to regulary overshots the CPU voltage. For undervolting, use the relatively similar sounding "CPU Lite Load" under "Advanced CPU Configuration". Default is Mode 9 for MSI, and Mode 15 for Intel. If you set this to a lower number, i.e. Mode 7, the CPU voltage is going down. Lower Mode means a lower voltage, but more risk of unstability. You can also set the AC/DC line manuelly. I've set this to AC=1 and DC=9. Means 0.01mV/0.09mV. Intel recomends to set this value to 1.10mV/1.10mV or below. Smaler number = more undervolt.

  • @hazzertink1712
    @hazzertink1712 2 месяца назад

    Thanks Tom, running 14700k at 5.5ghz at 1.25 volts, temps 83d in cinebench 24, many thanks.

  • @kevintattersall2009
    @kevintattersall2009 6 месяцев назад +6

    top job

  • @XtrackerPx1
    @XtrackerPx1 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hey why not GlobalCore SVID voltage ?.. on my case Actual VRM core voltage don't work on ASUS Z790-F II ..
    When i set SVID core voltage offset -0.1100 when i see in games reduction in temps and voltages from 1.4V to 1.29-1.3V on average..
    Can OC3D explain well where VRM Core Voltage and Gloval SVID voltage do ?

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      Svid is the voltage allowed to the cpu itself - the Core voltage is just the volts for the core. I think VRM core voltage is that last one for you just with a different name but I dont have it to check sorry.

    • @XtrackerPx1
      @XtrackerPx1 6 месяцев назад

      @@OC3D I managed to set by Gloval SVID and works.. on VRM like.. idk how doesn't .. but but whats your voltage on 14TH or 13th gen on games ? i can manage 1.28V on 30-40% load

  • @luciusverus8767
    @luciusverus8767 2 месяца назад

    Thank you very much Tom !

  • @Updog369
    @Updog369 2 месяца назад

    It helped a lot, thank you.. If you could perhaps go into more detail with the Asus bios, there are so many other settings in there, like t-probe/extreme for example, which as I understand, could also play a big role in the overclock..

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  Месяц назад +1

      This isnt an overclocking guide - purely about undervolting.

    • @Updog369
      @Updog369 Месяц назад

      @@OC3D Right, yeah I get that.. Your chanel is called OC3D, which I'm guessing stands for overclocked, am I right??

  • @apex_chris
    @apex_chris 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video thank you, but one question - what's the difference between tinkering with all of these VRM voltages and load line calibrations versus simply going into Intel's XTU and setting an offset of say 085 and having your temperatures exactly where you want them to be? I don't understand because you're achieving the exact same thing basically even if you were to set all the cores to say, 5.8 or even 5.9, you just increase the offset negative and you still achieve the same thing.

  • @hectorgonzalez4792
    @hectorgonzalez4792 6 месяцев назад +3

    I don't approach undervolting with fixed voltages on Intel. I have asus motherboard and I found an undervolting guide on overclockers website that utilize the IA AC Load line to 0.26 and IA DC load line to 1.02. Set the limits to 253 W and 280W. My 14900k does not reach 100 degrees anymore but 82 degrees on cinebench and reaches a score of 41500. There is multiple ways to undervolt the CPU. But the best way is adaptive undervolts.

    • @blvzvr
      @blvzvr 6 месяцев назад

      Do you have a z790?

    • @hectorgonzalez4792
      @hectorgonzalez4792 6 месяцев назад

      @@blvzvr yup z790 strix e gaming

    • @deano4003
      @deano4003 6 месяцев назад +1

      ive got a similiar setup as yours. do you have a link to the guide please? cheers

    • @hectorgonzalez4792
      @hectorgonzalez4792 6 месяцев назад +1

      @deano4003 the guide uses numbers for 13900k u will want to start with 0.3 for 14900k. And dial down . The guide is very comprehensive there is one specific part in the beginning. Title let's start tunning the beat

    • @timtodd22
      @timtodd22 5 месяцев назад

      I was able to find the guide (I think) by adapting what you had to: "Let's start tuning the beast" and searching for that on google. Thanks for mentioning the guide. Checking it out now.

  • @garethperks7032
    @garethperks7032 4 месяца назад +1

    You are a cool dude, especially for showing us the same approach with 3 different brands. Thank you! I got a Gigabyte H610 board with an i3-12100F and NH-D15s. This system needs no undervolting, but it’s fun to play anyway. I use OCCT > Stability > Power for stressing. Best drops I get so far are 80W to 60W power, 71 to 53 degC temp, 1.16v to 0.90v vcore. Those are the hwinfo64 peaks after a 1min stress run. My bios vcore setting only goes as low as 1.1v. So to get lower I have to use dynamic vcore offset of -0.3v (its lowest option). LLC on Turbo. CPU clocks pegged at 4.1ghz permanently.

  • @JuliussCesarr
    @JuliussCesarr 5 месяцев назад +1

    What i should change in my asus z790 bios settings for my 14900k ?

  • @JMUDoc
    @JMUDoc 6 месяцев назад +1

    IMO, undervolting is a must-do - the factory settings are, are almost every CPU, *massively* generous.
    Take the 5800X 3D, for example: use curve optimizer, and the temp goes down, while the performance goes UP.

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 6 месяцев назад +3

    😃 yaaaaaaaay!

  • @keyshawnmorris
    @keyshawnmorris 4 месяца назад

    So actually just a couple of days ago my motherboard’s got a bios update that replaced MSI’s own tweaked system power settings with added Intel default settings ☺️ I have a MAG Z790 Tomahawk WiFi

  • @SLSAMG
    @SLSAMG 6 месяцев назад +2

    Not all heroes wear capes. Thanks man!

  • @Paolo0902
    @Paolo0902 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why not use Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (Intel XTU) for this?

  • @LostFN.
    @LostFN. 6 месяцев назад +1

    Would’ve been helpful with an ASRock Tutorial, possible for you to do one?

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      They never even ask to send me samples so I'm afraid not dude

  • @advanced3dprinting
    @advanced3dprinting 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is def not the best way or safe. Overshoot is a thing to worry about and not all boards set ac and dc loadline right so the chip can think it gets more or less voltage. Vr out should match vcore in hwinfo amd same with wattage. Last is letting the fivr control things and having 6.2 single with like 6 all core then over 80c it drops to 5.8 or 5.7 all core is the real way. Skatterbencher has much safer and better performance guides. I get 425xx r23 with my reg Win environment imcluding startup apps ,hwinfo and xtu running.

    • @ThortheMerciless
      @ThortheMerciless 4 месяца назад +1

      You appear to have completely misunderstood what is happening here. It's not the same as Skatterbench at all.

  • @edplat2367
    @edplat2367 6 месяцев назад

    I understand not many people have them, but as an owner of an evga motherboard I'm sad there is no walkthrough for us. There is basically no guides out there on the internet either. I can do all core 4.9ghz on cinebench with my 12900k without any drops, but if i do linpack or prime there is no chance keeping temps in check.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much good sir. Now I will need to study this video carefully.

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 Месяц назад +1

    I have been OCing since 286's and have always undervolted before OCing.
    I prefer a stable system that runs cool over a space heater that is 1% faster.

    • @Anders357
      @Anders357 Месяц назад +1

      Well, back then there was some real gains, you could get a 200$ cpu to behave like 500$, nowadays its just crumbs and hardly worth the effort.

  • @Cwattyeso
    @Cwattyeso 5 месяцев назад

    Wish I’d seen this video 5 months ago as I have just picked my PC up today from a local shop where it had been for the last two weeks as it had suddenly started blue screening and crashing constantly and when I tried to re-install Windows on it the installer would even crash. Ended up being my i9-14900k CPU has failed and wonder if that is because I was using an Asus Motherboard with their ridiculous “Optimised” settings by default rather then the Intel Limits. Basically with my PC running 24/7, I think the Motherboard settings fried the CPU.
    Have got an i7-14700KF in the system now as the Repair Shop had no i9 Processors in stock to sell me, so I’ll be looking to make sure voltages on this CPU get lowered to prevent a repeat on my Motherboard.

  • @Alcaatraz01
    @Alcaatraz01 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Just finished. Gonna reference this again on my long overdue upgrade. Gonna go for min/max undervolt for an ITX system. Silent is a must. Thank you sir!

  • @aaronherbert8604
    @aaronherbert8604 3 месяца назад +1

    After months of frustrations with my i9 14900kf overheating, crashing during games and bsods, reading a million different solutions on the internet on tweaking the bios, this guide explained everything so clearly in each bios as the settings are quite confusing and frankly, overwhelming. Thank you

    • @raphapexx7931
      @raphapexx7931 Месяц назад

      My god man. Same here. The only tweak that I think, still testing, worked for me, is locking p-cores on 5.5.

  • @Anders357
    @Anders357 Месяц назад +1

    WHy use LLC 7 on ASUS with zero explanation? This will give your voltage more overshoot than a lower LLC value.
    I appreciate the undervolting, but frankly i begin hoping my 14700kf would die so i can get a 7800x3D. Going to direct die to avoid 100 degrees should not be necessary with a bog standard CPU on zero overclock.

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  Месяц назад

      Doesnt overshoot at all. There is still a small amount of droop but its as close as you can get without over volting it (because of too much LLC)

    • @Anders357
      @Anders357 Месяц назад

      @@OC3D According to the channel "Actually Hardware Overclocking" , LLC on z790 ROG Maximus Apex overshoot from LLC level 6 and up. Level 6 is 20 mV, and level 7 is 50-70 mV overshoot. Level 5 will not overshoot. The score voltage is measured using a oscilloscope, since it is regulated very quickly, and overshoot may often not be detected by any sensor software like Hwmonitor, because their poll rate is too low, typically in the hundreds of milliSecs. The guy recommends not using level 7 ("not a big fan of that much overshoot"), and instead use level 6 on that board, which equal "IA domain" loadline of 0.49 mOhm.

  • @quantumangel
    @quantumangel 2 месяца назад

    *Linux* software alternatives, please?

  • @TN8PT
    @TN8PT 6 месяцев назад +1

    Teach me to fish on AMD please...

    • @brianrobinson3961
      @brianrobinson3961 6 месяцев назад

      Lots of videos on AMD. PBO and Curve optimizer is better on AMD instead of a static overclock/undervolt.

  • @offspring890
    @offspring890 2 месяца назад

    I have a i7 13700k and since i bought it i noticed it was voltage hungry when turbo was turned on ( Default setting Asus Z690 plus ) Default setting will turn on turbo boost , My cpu runs at 5300 mhz ( @ Turbo default speed )and is pulling 1.45v ( Which I am told is really bad for cpu )so in short I have to leave my turbo turned off since I updated the bios a few days ago . Even undervolting does not work anymore for some reason , If anyone got any ideas please help I am lost here .

  • @Sergeydk
    @Sergeydk 2 месяца назад

    I prefer it when a person who has lived a life and understands what they are doing speaks and explains, rather than these twenty-year-olds.
    With the asus and 14700k (assasin IV with 3 fans), I went the simpler way, I limited the power to 230w. I have sacrificed the clock frequency in order to maintain a stable temperature.
    Thank you!

  • @flyingeaglex6960
    @flyingeaglex6960 2 месяца назад

    I can't seem to identify much from my intel core on the hardware monitor. All it'll show me is Load with a list of CPU cores. It's a i7-14700k running on a air cooler just like in the video.😢

  • @definitelyhexed
    @definitelyhexed 5 месяцев назад

    Using Intel XTU I took -0 .165v off my 14700k, on a Asus z790-H. Runs cool as a cucumber now with AIO. 38-45c in games. Never above 65c in benchmarks. It makes you wonder why Intel has overvolted all these dies. It's baffling. Oh and I clocked up to 5800mhz on two cores. It's solid and my CPU only scored 68.

    • @Se7enn_Sinz
      @Se7enn_Sinz 5 месяцев назад

      I’m unable to get the underbolt protection off. And I disabled the protection in bios. Any ideas

  • @wordup7668
    @wordup7668 4 месяца назад

    I am having problems with my brand new system being thermal throttle just doing the XTU. Have a 360 li LIAN AIO any suggestions? I have already reapplied thermal paste to no avail.

  • @pointblank722
    @pointblank722 Месяц назад

    Waste of time! Which parameters? Basic undervolting? Why fixed voltage? Waste of time.

  • @einherz
    @einherz 6 месяцев назад

    13900k first for me, where i did nothing, except set offset to vcore. i know llc way better, seting all cores are sync better too, but... it's worked at -0.15 first months, actually about 1year+. then i set -0.12 and then i add tvb profile 2+ and set -0.1 this video just show me again how lazy my arce is... in which galaxy you found crystal with 5700@1v
    p.s. best way is working with every single core and find voltage and freq for them individually. but who the heck will do that:)
    p.p.s. why midrange pc in the video shoot down itself?:)

  • @civsully1740
    @civsully1740 6 месяцев назад

    What did you do if anything in the type of cooler section in the MSI BIOS? What setting did you use for best performance? Box. Tower, or Water Cooler? Thx

  • @ChazmillsADLT
    @ChazmillsADLT 3 месяца назад

    Mine failed at the first hurdle, EXPO on the MSI!!! Disabled it again and it worked again, thank god!! Scared me about bit

  • @lsik231l
    @lsik231l 5 месяцев назад

    Nice video. Maybe try keeping the MB steps together instead of skipping around. That way, we can just pick our MB brand and watch an entire section without having to bounce around. Cheers mate.

  • @blvzvr
    @blvzvr 6 месяцев назад

    I just need a dang ASUS guide. Cradle to grave. Beginning to end. This isn’t as straightforward without visual steps, even for intermediate users. The editing style makes it jump around a lot. It also doesn’t explain how to know that load line calibration is working correctly.

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад +1

      if LLC is working your volts should stay pretty close to the manual setting you made. I did say that.
      Just take a deep breath and work through it slowly dude.
      I couldnt make a video for each or Ill have people wanting asrock, nzxt, evga ect and I just cant do it. I needed to start with a basic one that covers all.

  • @fancypantzz
    @fancypantzz 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this. If you can do a further in depth version of this video with the other settings that would be amazing. I had a MSI Ace Max z790 with a 14900k, and want to fully maximize. Currently getting crashes and blue screens

  • @dracer35
    @dracer35 6 месяцев назад

    This video has got me excited to try undervolting again. A few years ago I started using MSI motherboards because I felt like the bios was easier to work with when I was trying to learn overclocking and undervolting but the vast majority of videos I found were using Asus. Im not a fan of the Asus bios and how it feels like Im always searching through sub menus. I have a couple different boards (Asus, Gigabyte and two MSI boards) to try again along with the Artic Liquid Freezer III 420mm aio to play with on my test bench. I'll report back with my results after I get some free time.

  • @kramnull8962
    @kramnull8962 6 месяцев назад

    I corrected my lite load and really didn't bother with an undervolt but after getting lite load set, I simply set my Top temp as 105C and it will never throttle and still can take the Intel extreme tuner back to Power Saver and use 3W Package most of the time at idle and remedial tasks. If I know I am going to run 100%, then I'll go back to High Performance or Ultra Performance and still not throttle when power is needed.

  • @coryo617
    @coryo617 5 месяцев назад

    so whats the difference with adaptive ? cause i have mine at adaptive -offset .1 ...its ok but temps do get in the 90s running cb23...still learning this undervolt stuff..

  • @MichelBertrand
    @MichelBertrand 6 месяцев назад

    Damn, I have to try this again. First try lowering Vcore by 0.025, and my temps went *up* and my R24 score went down...
    I'll have another go when I have more time soon... guess I did something wrong. Running z790 Aorus Master with i7-13700k and H150 360 AIO.
    Just wanted to still say *THANKS TOM* for the guide, now at least I know what to work with (when I get more time :) )

  • @GEMOGamingyt
    @GEMOGamingyt 2 месяца назад

    My i5 13500 goes 175 Watt for few second while rendering on blender cycle . but its Turbo TDP is 154 watt . Is it good or bad and What i do ?

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 6 месяцев назад

    Thx Tom being I just got my first MSI motherboard I was wondering about the settings, for many years I only used ASUS and built family and friends pc's using ASUS motherboards

  • @AlexanderTheDad_YT
    @AlexanderTheDad_YT 5 месяцев назад

    I was working on reducing temps of a 14900KF yesterday which was running in the 80s degC in game. In the MSI BIOS I used the 'cpu cooler tuning' setting to go from a 288W limit to a 253W limit (Intel's own spec limit) and also dropped the voltages by 0.05v with voltage offset mode. This dropped temps by 16 degC in game! If I only did the undervolt then that only gave a 4 degC drop. So the power limiter was much more significant than the undervolt for temps. Performance in-game was 0.2 FPS average lower (ie. not noticable) but with a 16 degC reducing in temps.

    • @timtoomuch
      @timtoomuch 5 месяцев назад

      Where did you find the cpu cooler settings?

  • @mohdayadd
    @mohdayadd 5 месяцев назад

    Any tested values on msi z790 pro motherboard with 14900kf ?

  • @CryptoFeeders
    @CryptoFeeders Месяц назад

    Ist tell me , should I go for 14th gen i7 (with the solution) or wait for 15th gen/ryzen?

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  Месяц назад

      You just need to undervolt the CPU

    • @CryptoFeeders
      @CryptoFeeders Месяц назад

      @@OC3D will it not underperform the cpu?

  • @FSPhoto
    @FSPhoto 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for this video! I've been going crazy for the since Oct 2023 with the i9 14900K and Asus Dark Hero motherboard. Adobe Premeire and Media Encoder would crash CONSTANTLY when working with LOG video files and for the first time and I could NOT MAKE ANY SENSE of any of it. Even went to the point where I thought my RTX 3090 was defective and even upgraded the GPU. This solution FIXED EVERYTHING!

  • @rankcolour8780
    @rankcolour8780 6 месяцев назад

    My guy!
    Nice subject. I think as Intel are binning harder and harder and turning out KS SKUs vids like this are much more valuable than they used to be when Intel was turning out a much wider range of performance bins.
    Turning a naturally good RBG, or well binned chip can net you some decent power savings depending how low you want to go.

  • @seemless_tv
    @seemless_tv 5 месяцев назад

    Great video for me, been undervolting for some time and was having issues with crashing. This seemed to help.

  • @Soddus.
    @Soddus. 6 месяцев назад

    i thought some of the new bios updates locked out undervolting for 12-13th gen?

  • @Alcaatraz01
    @Alcaatraz01 6 месяцев назад

    That 4080 grill looks sick! I might get one in the future just for that. On to the rest of the video. Great to see your opinionated content again. Loved your old school oc guides. New OCCT version recently. I thought of you when I saw the announcement.

  • @Golden2Talon
    @Golden2Talon 2 месяца назад

    but what about CPU Lite Load?

  • @nikoskaranasos5221
    @nikoskaranasos5221 6 месяцев назад

    very useful video m8 u done great job there !!!!! and if u have time make also 1 video for amd :)

  • @dmxdex
    @dmxdex 2 месяца назад

    How much voltage do I need to set for 14900k

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  Месяц назад +1

      Follow the guide - you need to work out what your system needs. There is no golden answer.

    • @dmxdex
      @dmxdex Месяц назад

      @@OC3D I set my power levels which has helped alot. PL1 253w and PL1 125w amps 307

  • @Raresss24
    @Raresss24 2 месяца назад

    I have the MSI Tomahawk Max Wifi Z790. i9-14900k, samsung 990 pro ssd windows 11 22h2 and 32 ram ddr5 corsair vengeace 6000mhz cl30. I had 2180 benchmark in cnbench 2024. After applying the settings and going from 1.420 - 0.025 to 1.395 I barely go over 1400 bench. It did not help me at all! I also have the latest bios

  • @michelangelofilippi1717
    @michelangelofilippi1717 6 месяцев назад

    What about consumption?

  • @brennanIX
    @brennanIX 6 месяцев назад

    But about MCE, TVB, SpeedStep, and ABT? Should EVERYTHING be disabled so its just straight up voltage giving you whatever you get, with no additional shit messing with it? I know especially with Asus boards, there's a lot of extra stuff going on, and vintage being rammed into your CPU.
    Should i disable all of that, locking the max turbo ratio to 57x, so I have an absolute baseline? How about limits, at least least for getting my initial reference voltage, off or intel standard?
    Intel CPUs run hot and overvolted from factory, but MOBO manufacturers have a tendency to feed them even more unnecessary voltage in top. At factory bios settings my Z790 Dark Hero was pushing 1.545v to my 14900k.
    Just from common sense, im assuming youd absolutely want to disable all that crap, including Intels "extra" boost stuff, and lock your ratio to 57 or 58. Then you dont gave any adaptive settings or anything that would try to increase efficiency automatically without user input. Obviously your want the most control and least variation for testing to get consistent results. The only reason Im even mentioning it is because you never covered the need to do this for consistency/accuracy for ANY of of the boards, or any specific settings. Asus MCE would the NUMBER ONE offender for definitely being disabled, if that was the only one mentioned. It literally attempts to counteract your undervolting, by dynamically increasing voltage in an attempt to push clock speeds high as possible. Disabling that alone leads to a considerable decrease in temps and overvolting.

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      If you disable some of that on Asus it will stop it boosting, so its not as simple. You dont need to change the clock speed settings, it should turbo there on its own if set up correctly

  • @TheAdam2877
    @TheAdam2877 6 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to say thank you Tom. Putting my system together tomorrow and will be using your guide to help me get my system undervolted.

  • @AndroidBeacshire
    @AndroidBeacshire 6 месяцев назад

    Great video, very interesting.
    I'm currently running my 13900k at -50mV offset and 304W power limit in XTU, and it gives me decent CB24 scores and temps about 85DegC.
    I should I default XTU and try this method, as there seems to be no LLC option on XTU. Or can I just change the LLC in bios and leave XTU as is ?
    I'm curious what advantage this method would have over just using XTU as it is

    • @advanced3dprinting
      @advanced3dprinting 6 месяцев назад +1

      Undervolt in bios so xtu doesn't need to run but do it as an offset not this way. You could search sampino or skatterbencher guide and tune your ll values not ll calibration as that will make your chip know exactly how much droop their is and it can then request the right voltage to compensate vs this way has overshoot. Intel spent alot developing its FIVR and is way better then setting a static voltage. Also i idle at 9 watts on my 14900k since i keep octb and all other boost features working properly incurring all c states

  • @MeMyself-gf7fn
    @MeMyself-gf7fn 6 месяцев назад

    I was curious if these were using the XTU settings before or just stock?

  • @legion3343
    @legion3343 6 месяцев назад

    I no longer have an Intel cpu but this video has my full attention regardless nice one gov

  • @drmetroyt
    @drmetroyt 6 месяцев назад

    Is there a similar guide for Ryzen ?

  • @AnimeRush739
    @AnimeRush739 4 месяца назад

    I'm new to this and desperate for help. Is it okay if I skip the Load Line Calibration (LLC) and just change the downclocking to 52x? I just want to fix the issue where my games keep crashing on my i9 processor. Can I do this? Please reply.

  • @LDWilliams
    @LDWilliams 6 месяцев назад

    I thiught most MB had thi setting as default out of the box - Enabled - Remove All limits] This item allows you to use optimized power and curr , not [Disabled - Enforce All limits] This item allows you to use Intel default Turbo core ratio settings.
    ?

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      Can still mean it's getting more volts than it needs

  • @Deklaracija
    @Deklaracija 4 месяца назад

    My first attempt with 14600kf went bad from 100c 64 c that was good ,but cinebench went from 9300pts to 4600 pts 😂

  • @Harineto
    @Harineto 6 месяцев назад +4

    Great work!

  • @xXxlolxXx
    @xXxlolxXx 4 месяца назад

    I can only get max clock speed when using the single core mode in cinebench 24, when I use the multicore mode the clock speed gets much lower idk why. Does. Anyone have any ideas why?

  • @milosjankovic9271
    @milosjankovic9271 5 месяцев назад

    1c drop with asus vs stock?

  • @tomquimby8669
    @tomquimby8669 6 месяцев назад

    Finally! OBS is your friend.

  • @zikaab
    @zikaab 6 месяцев назад

    Hi. Is peerless assassin 120 se a low end cooler?

  • @rmorenberg
    @rmorenberg 5 месяцев назад

    Very educational Thank you

  • @nandofalleiros
    @nandofalleiros 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wasted 40min of my life. Extreme LLC, fixed voltages, unlimited power limit. I went to the recent videos expecting a part 2 of this and nothing

  • @CaptPeer
    @CaptPeer 6 месяцев назад

    Thanx Tom, you're the best!

  • @onlinegaming4826
    @onlinegaming4826 4 месяца назад

    Gigabyte Bios
    Setting
    Enhanced Multi core Off
    Pcore 54 or 56 with 14gen
    Ecore 43 or 44 14 gen
    Xmp1
    Adaptive Vcore
    Offset -15 Test for Stability
    Core Current Limit 400 Amps (CCMax)
    CPU Vcore Loadline Calibration Medium or Low
    IA VR Config enable
    AC 10
    DC 90

  • @ezravanguard4631
    @ezravanguard4631 6 месяцев назад

    Appreciate the work, great guide

  • @Wiebe187
    @Wiebe187 5 месяцев назад

    I'm stuck at entering cpu core voltage. 14900k msi z790-a pro seen 1.493v max in cincebench I don't know what value to enter.

    • @Se7enn_Sinz
      @Se7enn_Sinz 5 месяцев назад +1

      I did -.1350v temps are in the high 70s mid 80s

  • @ArkenShromAbuser
    @ArkenShromAbuser 2 месяца назад

    I did this on my asus bord z790-a spiked too 1.42 vcore and the vid whent upp too 1.5v throttled in seconds 😂

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 Месяц назад +1

    Sell the blue screening floor heater and buy a AMD, problem solved.

  • @personaldronerepair6141
    @personaldronerepair6141 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic !!

  • @MrFoxRobert
    @MrFoxRobert 6 месяцев назад

    👋👍

  • @bomberthompson3046
    @bomberthompson3046 6 месяцев назад

    I've tried undervolting my 14900KF to 1.3v and tried to underclock to 55x which reduced the clocks but I can't get the temps below 100 with a decent IAO cooler. With everything at stock I get better scores on the benchmarks even though the temp goes to 100. My motherboard is a MSI MAG Z790. Not sure why the temps are so high.
    I went down to 1.250 with the clock down to 38x temps on 2 p cores still went to 100. So I unsynced the cores and tried lower on the 2 rogue cores while I increased the multiplier on the 6 good cores. The 2 cores ran lower but still went to 100 when the 6 other cores maxed at 97 with 57 multiplier. I think I just got bad luck and the cpu is duff.

    • @hectorgonzalez4792
      @hectorgonzalez4792 6 месяцев назад

      What are your idle temperatures. Maybe you should try repasting the CPU cooler.

    • @bomberthompson3046
      @bomberthompson3046 6 месяцев назад

      @@hectorgonzalez4792 The idle temps are only around 35c and I checked the cooler, repasted it to check it was sat correctly which it was.

    • @dyson9422
      @dyson9422 6 месяцев назад +1

      So Tiny Tom Logan has taught you to first undervolt and then lower the frequency. I suggest you lower the frequency then worry about the voltage. But first to make this easy use Intel ETU (Extreme Tuning Utility). It is free from Intel. This will let you quickly make changes without all the waiting that working from the
      bios menus and waiting through the boot cycles. Tiny Tom said to ignore the efficiency cores but they are half of the 14900KS's 32 threads. The goal is to get as much work done as fast as you can with your cooling solution. The cooling solution for the computer is what removes the heat from motherboard, CPU, RAM, Storage, GPU, RGB LEDs, the Power Supply, and Ambient temperature. The cooling solution includes the PC case, Case fans, CPU cooler, CPU cooler pump and fans, and Dust control. Dust control means let in only filtered air and maintain positive pressure. Before starting your cooling solution test download and run Furmark from techpowerup. It would be a shame to spend a hole evening tuning your CPU only to find you have to do it all over again because the GPU was not contributing its share of the heat.
      You will want to set your CPU clock multipliers for the performance cores with Performance Active Core tuning and all 16 efficiency cores with the same multiplier. From my experience with 13900K with 1 active core you can have a multiplier in the high 50s and with 8 active cores you will need the multiplier in the low 50s. This is really the fun part where your matching your CPU power with your cooling solution temperature target. Armed with this knowledge you now know that the turbo boost if allowed will help very little to the work done in the near term a will be a detriment in the long term. The ETU will display the wattage so you can set the turbo boots power a few watts above what is displayed. Limit the time allowed for the boost to one second. There is still some work to do before you can lower the voltage. make a record of the settings for the bios including the fan curves. This is necessary because after you undervolt, it may work fine until it crashes and you have to load the "optimal default settings" to boot and all that tuning effort is gone. You will want to get back to where you were but with just a little higher voltage. The hard part of this process is to store your settings in the Bios/UEFI using menus using words translated from English to a foreign language and back to English.
      Please read my other comment for more information.

  • @skywalkies77
    @skywalkies77 6 месяцев назад

    Fiiiiinally 🤙

  • @DieChaosBoys1
    @DieChaosBoys1 6 месяцев назад

    On the asus motherboard you have 5600mhz with 1.25/ 1.37 volts. What is the left and for what is the Right?

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      If you have the program open you'll see

    • @DieChaosBoys1
      @DieChaosBoys1 6 месяцев назад

      @@OC3D what program do you mean? It stays in the bios by prediction.

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  6 месяцев назад

      Have you watched the video through and followed it?

    • @DieChaosBoys1
      @DieChaosBoys1 6 месяцев назад

      @@OC3D i have watched the Video but I cant Test it because i‘m Not at Home.

    • @hectorgonzalez4792
      @hectorgonzalez4792 6 месяцев назад +1

      Those are prediction voltages and not actual voltages. 1.25 V is for light loads/ 1.37V for heavy loads.

  • @Sebastian198910
    @Sebastian198910 5 месяцев назад +1

    That part on the ASUS BIOS is such a bullshit. Level 7 LLC? Uff. Just tested it out of curiosity. But my CPU got -5000 score in cinebench while getting 15°C hotter. This video is the best sample for me why I do not follow RUclips guides.
    With my current settings my 14900K hits easily 40k on Cinebench without exceeding 85°C even on a Throttle Test.

  • @delyircz
    @delyircz Месяц назад

    work smarter and put in the title (for MSI, ASUS, GIGABYTE) easy 2x / 3x clicks

    • @OC3D
      @OC3D  Месяц назад

      Have added it - it messes with algorythm juju when you make changes - nothing to lose now though. Thank you for the suggestion

  • @omgitsdefault
    @omgitsdefault 6 месяцев назад

    Mate thank you, I'm building my new 14700k rog this week.
    Much appreciation.

  • @eca2ace
    @eca2ace 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you, finally a solid video on MSI Bios adjustments!!