yeah they were like “weather is too strong” and with the tapus they tried to see how far they could push a “terrain meta” and that’s how we got to quark drive/protosynthesis nonsense
Gen 9 player here! Commenting on Volc's potential brokenness and it's defensive uses in the meta. It's not just it's capability to change type and use hidden power 2.0 in Tera Blast (For utilizing Tera Blast, it goes Tera Ground to smack Toxapex, Clodsire and Skeledirge as we'll as block Twave from something like Rotom and Fairy to handle Baxcalibur, Roaring Moon and Dragonite as well as blocking phazing attempts from Garchomp's Dragon Tail. Tera Grass and Tera Bug are also common, the former for boosting Giga Drain and flipping the script on waters and the latter to give it a truly nuclear bug buzz), but also the fact a lot of its checks are missing. There's no bulky Zapdos, no Heatran, no AV Slowking Galar, no SpDef Lando, Blissey has lost Toxic meaning it's set up fodder, Ttar isn't even good in OU etc. A huge boost to it is the reduced distribution of Knock Off, the most prominent mons with knock are Great Tusk, Meowscarada and Iron Treads, all of which lose to Volc. That means it pretty much is never bothered by rocks due to boots staying, giving it frankly incredible longevity if paired with Morning Sun (even without it, Giga Drain and it's natural special bulk helps a ton). That means it can attempt QD sweeps MULTIPLE times throughout the game with a lot less team support than in previous gens. As for it's defensive uses, it's not really a defensive mon, more so a sweeper with defensive utility. One of the premier offensive pokemon is Iron Valiant, and Volc completely walls that aren't Specs with Psyshock. Turning one of the best offensive mons into setup fodder is frankly bonkers utility for a mon that was so one dimensional before.
volc always had this defensive potential (minus tera of course). i’ve had a few arguments with ppl last gen when i was saying volc has much better defensive utility than moltres (and just in general) but all they could say was “duuur but the moltres is immune to eq”. like bro bug/fire is just really good in practice when you combine it with volcs stats and flame body
@@clarkkent1616 it just can't compete with moltres' utility imo. the 16pp for roost, pressure, better physical bulk, defog, and the ability to wall most fighting types are really important. and yes eq immunity is amazing for any defensive mon
@@jacksonsmith2955 well then it's very unfortunate that Moltres doesn't compete with Volcarona, and also isn't in the game. Roost also doesn't have 16pp anymore.
@@jacksonsmith2955 resisting ice has been pretty useful gen 8 and 9 (while chien pao was around). pressure is ass on moltres cus it would just be worse corv. and moltres can’t turn around and sweep while providing its defensive utility volc > moltres
BKC crazy… I’m a Japanese speaker living in Japan, who played Smogon Gen 5 from day 1, who sometimes plays the game in Japanese with my kids now- and I don’t remember pre-English BW OU mom’s Japanese names as well as BKC.
I cheered when the first one missed, and cackled when the second did. He got some luck with those double Protects earlier and afterwards, but it wasn't enough to stop The Comeback 💪
You clap for Volcarona. You clap for Volcarona. You clap for Volcarona. You weep in sorrow before Volcarona. You stagger before Volcarona. You kneel before Volcarona.
nah the end of that smurf battle is insane, dug fails to kill -1 victini cause it's max health scarf and dug got min roll, volc comes in to set up and chansey misses two toxics plus gets burned by fire blast and volc clutches up, what a wild ride
i wish i can go around saying “bugs should resist stealth rock !” because there’s so many cool bugs that would love to use an item other than boots. but then i remember any bug type buff is a buff to volc, then i become sadness 😒
The real reason why volc is broken in gen 9 is because iron moth and slither wing are confusing people, nobody knows if volc is going to fire off a fiery dance, sludge wave, or cc because they're all the same guy
Flame Body was kind of a niche pick for Tran in gen 8 IMO. With Phys Def helped check Weavile but you have worse matchups into Blacephalon, Volcarona, and the occasional Victini.
The thing is that you can beat it fairly easily if you have Dirge but like, it’s Dirge it’s not gonna fit on every team you can’t really just splash it on and expect it to work
Revisting this video after the volc ban and now I believe I understand the council's decicson a bit more. With tera in it's natural state buffing set up sweepers with a suprise factor I see how the council would decide to just quick ban it. It's like espathra but Volc would use tera to dodge a bullet and then sweep like espathra
17:54 paying too much attention to the game god damn the double toxic miss into a burn from fire blast that kills, that's brutal, also wow the double protects
I still remember when we used bulky volcarona with z bug to hard counter kartana (at the time z giga impact wasn't that common) and soft check + fish for a burn Mega mawile (yes we really were desperate at that time). Volcarona is the kind of pokemon at very spontanious moments of every OU meta since gen 5 makes no sense whatsoever and everyone wants to ban it until he loses its niche and become again the hard quiver dance machine.
Super late to the party here, but fellow Gen 9 and previous Gen 5 player. (I've played all gens except 7 and 8.) Part of the reason behind the rallied cry of Volcarona being broken is actually Heavy-Duty Boots. This allows Volcarona to come in against any kind of hazards and ignore them completely. This turns the 4x weakness to Stealth Rock, the chip from Spikes, poison from TSpikes and speed loss from Sticky Web into non-factors. Most commonly, Volcs in this generation run physically defensive sets to patch up its physically defensive weakness, as well as trying to make much better use of Flame Body to punish the opponents. Then you have to factor in Terastalization -- The most common Volc Teras are Grass, Ground, Water, and Fairy. Grass covers your ass against Waters and turns your other weaknesses (barring Flying) into neutralities while also pumping up Giga Drain into a third STAB. Ground blocks Twave attempts and alongside Water allow you to absolutely dumpster the best check to Volcarona, Skeledirge. Fairy is there to blast Dragons, even though you generally don't need to. If you don't have an Unaware Pokemon, or something tanky enough to deal with it, Volcarona can run train through numerous teams at the drop of a hat. Offensive variants still exist, but physically bulky sets are the most common to see. You can try to Haze/Clear Smog it, but that's a lot more difficult to pull off than one thinks. Volcarona is definitely teetering on the edge of being broken, IMO, but I feel it has more of an effect of "You lose in the team builder for Volcarona" than in-game presence. You ALWAYS have to keep it in mind, or get blasted by it immediately.
In ORAS Volcarona is also stupidly busted, it has so many different viable hidden power sets, you either have the silver bullet of a check or your entire team gets swept
Have always loved Volc though I can see how it can be tilting most times after u miss one 90% toxic it’s basically gg. Loved that last game where Volc just 1v4ed at the end
Volcorina seems like a high risk high reward pokemon. It can be super good (fiery dance, bug buzz, quiver dance, giga drain, etc) but it certainly does have checks (rain/water, stealth rock, priority/low defense, Chansey, maybe terrakion?)
I agree prior to gen 8. Ever since boots got introduced, it's very much a low risk, high reward mon since it can come in whenever it wants. It's often very easy to get to a point where 1 QD=gg. Esp now while knock off is limited
I can’t get over this, it sounds like there is a cat or something in the background at around 3:06, it literally just sounded like a meow. I don’t know if it’s from the background music or what have you, I’m just hyper fixated on this at the moment lol. Dw about it, my ADHD will forget about it anyways. You just seem like a cat person lmao
I'd answer but I largely play stall and 9 times out of 10 volc is harmless to stall unless it's exactly one set and only one set ( anyone curious, the one with safeguard )
Volc in gen 9 reminds me of kyurem in gen 8 but less broken. In gen 8 you always had to scout out what set kyurem was running, you could switch blissey in expecting specs but then be against sub DD never melt ice kyurem, it boosts to +6 and you lose, or you switch in balloon heatran expecting earthpower, get subed on and your magma storms get pp stalled until kyurem is behind a sub, breaks your balloon and continues to destroy your team. It was so hard to counter kyurem as you might have a specs counter but not a sub roost special one or a sub DD one or even scarf or banded kyurem that people started to run late gen 8. The same can be said for volc, it can be physically defensive U-turn willo, it can be tera grass bulky, tera fairy offensive and so on. You never know what set volc is going to be running and now with terastilisation aka the 10 times better hidden power, you can get steam rolled thinking it's one type of Volvo and it turning out to be another. Def Volc with tera grass is crazy, you're boosting your speed, spdef and spA and if a physical attacker tries coming in, it can get burn while they giga drain or morning sun away the damage. The introduction of heavy duty boots has sky rocketed volcs viability and while I think it's not as broken as kyurem in gen 8, I definitely think it's A tier or S tier in ou gen 9 as of right now. The ability to run a small bit of speed, hp and defense and set up while recovering damage is crazy. Unaware clod definitely helps but then they tera ground or water and snack you hard, if they have spikes and stealth rocks up or get chip on clod early game then it's over. Volc has a great ability, a good typing and now with terastilisation it's unpredictable, a great movepool, a great setup move and two forms of recovery. Has all the potential of staying a top tier Mon in ou all this gen. Another note: volc being able to tera grass before rocks are put up is huge as now you can run covert cloak, leftovers, big root etc. And not worry about stealth rocks. Also shed tail teams with screens and volc are crazy. Hard to pull off but if you're not prepared with a phasing Mon or taunt, can ruin your day.
I think that another derivative of this style of Pokémon to volc is dragon dance dnite. The ability to be just bulky enough to get multiple set ups on some monstrous offensive stats with access to recovery AND meta warping offensive options (like extreme speed + earthquake gen 9, dual wing beat + ice punch + earthquake gen 8). Spot on with volc countering the meta counters. Screens + bulky set up sweepers are not particularly skillful imo, like espathra
It's an issue of how much a mon is countered in game vs in team builder. In more recent gens there's been more and more threats that you prepare specifically for or most likely die to, and Volc is an example of that.
Somebody PLEASE help me create a DPP Ubers team with my Swords Dance Garchomp. I have searched everywhere and even created various SD Chomp teams of my own but failed miserably.
Volcarona definitely creates a teambuilding chokehold that's almost insufferable at times, especially in ORAS. And this is w/ the fact you have smogon bird talonflame and volcanion, but then you just create a very unhealthy mu cycle, b/c now cofagrigus/offense teams that just load drill hate start to rise. And then to beat THOSE kinds of teams and be better off vs the general meta, you compromise your volcarona mu, its just very frustrating as a whole b/c all of your checks have to be able to answer it at +1
@@DarthFhenix55 Screens has suicide lando-t/drill, both of which for the most part ensure that rocks stay off the field unless you jump a million hoops, the only priority reliable at killing the thing is talonflame, chansey is very team restricting, so all you have done is point out how restricting moth is in the builder .-.
@@DarthFhenix55 none of those stop the suicide lead from getting their rocks up, nor do they keep them off, they'll do their job regardess of getting rocks on your side, and just let the next teammate in, often serperior in for free to get up screens leafstorm, glare or in the case of scizor, volcarona or dnite just comes in for free and 2 teammates are now either dead or heavily worn out. these are pokemon that match-up very poorly against screens .-.
broken.? no. annoying? most certainly. imo its even more annoying than say a clefable cuz clef you just play around it.it fucks around a bit but it cant do that much to pull ur hair out and u can react quickly to cm clef and beat it. volc can just fucking sweep you if your not positioned correctly/dont have the counter.
Volc is just that good in gen 9 cuz heatran doesn't exist now, or else it'll have to pick and choose between losing to clod, tran, tera fire kinggambit, pex also checks it quite well
I'm still in this denial phase where Volc is my favorite pokemon but as I enter the competitive scene slowly, all the eyes are on it. It's really weird, but I just take it as a W
While there are scarfers faster than Volc in BW that are good (Chomp/Terrak), I'd much rather use SD or ChainChomp, since Scarf is terrible against Reuni+Spikes teams (and bulkier teams in general). Often times I just accept that the right Volc set will wreck me if I can't keep rocks up. I can't cover everything, so I'd rather focus on being good against the common teams.
I would be so pissed if they ban Volc she is my favorite, I know that's not competitive but rooting for a fire bug type has been the best. She is on like 85% of all teams I make, nothing else fills the roll of crazy set up sweeper and I think the negatives of running Volc are obvious. So in conclusion smogon loves stall 💔
I dont think it's broken cause to me it seems relatively checkable . It is really good though one of the best mons in the tier. Also BKC showing that he is a boomer by flexing the japanese name LMAO
I’ll never understand why a Pokémon everyone used to think was a Legendary and has never dropped out of OU got two new versions of itself in Gen 9, both arguably worse than Volcarona
ruclips.net/video/yRepIDuiNV0/видео.html here's the shofu video you're talking about possibly the first volcarona sweep ever to be recorded online 13 years ago...
can you make a video about “the the building conundrum?” a lot of people talk about it like it’s a bad thing but i think a team that comfortably checks the entire meta would be extremely lame
lol,its trash...i have tried it myself,it cant even use energy booster properly bcz of sr weakness..and it has only one good set..Energy booster agility... and not to mention that trash ability
Volcarona also has the incredible trait of DESTROYING psychic spam. All three of Alakazam, Reuniclus and Cresselia get demolished by Bug Buzz after a boost. Alakazam with focus sash can stop Volcarona, once, but then it’s vulnerable to all of Volcarona teammates. And that isn’t even a good example because Alakazam wants to run life orb and it gets completely invalidated by Volcarona if it does. Volcarona is also commonly paired with other set up sweepers like SD Garchomp, DD Dragonite, and nasty plot Thundurus just to name a few. So Volcarona may not offer much defensively but it offers a ton offensively.
I don’t know enough about BW tier but from other gens getting volc in to do it’s thing isn’t that simple. I also rarely see it be able to get that many QD under its belt. This might just be that metas have become quicker paced. It does seem like Gen 5 doesn’t have a ton of options to deal with it though. Idk I could never go back and get in to Gen 5 because weather wars are too centralizing for me. To me Gen 5’s “gimmick” is perma-weather and I’m just not a fan.
If you look at the game as GF intended, it's a weak Pokemon compared to gen 5 full power rain, mega Kang, primals, all banned ultra beasts, dynamax, and fluttermain
Conspiracy theory, gamefreak loved BW OU so much they decided to recreate the feeling with SV OU
yeah they were like “weather is too strong” and with the tapus they tried to see how far they could push a “terrain meta” and that’s how we got to quark drive/protosynthesis nonsense
It's a day ending in Y, BKC is talking about BW OU
Every day ends in y, it came free with your subject
Gen 9 player here! Commenting on Volc's potential brokenness and it's defensive uses in the meta. It's not just it's capability to change type and use hidden power 2.0 in Tera Blast (For utilizing Tera Blast, it goes Tera Ground to smack Toxapex, Clodsire and Skeledirge as we'll as block Twave from something like Rotom and Fairy to handle Baxcalibur, Roaring Moon and Dragonite as well as blocking phazing attempts from Garchomp's Dragon Tail. Tera Grass and Tera Bug are also common, the former for boosting Giga Drain and flipping the script on waters and the latter to give it a truly nuclear bug buzz), but also the fact a lot of its checks are missing. There's no bulky Zapdos, no Heatran, no AV Slowking Galar, no SpDef Lando, Blissey has lost Toxic meaning it's set up fodder, Ttar isn't even good in OU etc. A huge boost to it is the reduced distribution of Knock Off, the most prominent mons with knock are Great Tusk, Meowscarada and Iron Treads, all of which lose to Volc. That means it pretty much is never bothered by rocks due to boots staying, giving it frankly incredible longevity if paired with Morning Sun (even without it, Giga Drain and it's natural special bulk helps a ton). That means it can attempt QD sweeps MULTIPLE times throughout the game with a lot less team support than in previous gens. As for it's defensive uses, it's not really a defensive mon, more so a sweeper with defensive utility. One of the premier offensive pokemon is Iron Valiant, and Volc completely walls that aren't Specs with Psyshock. Turning one of the best offensive mons into setup fodder is frankly bonkers utility for a mon that was so one dimensional before.
Redditor here!
volc always had this defensive potential (minus tera of course). i’ve had a few arguments with ppl last gen when i was saying volc has much better defensive utility than moltres (and just in general) but all they could say was “duuur but the moltres is immune to eq”. like bro bug/fire is just really good in practice when you combine it with volcs stats and flame body
@@clarkkent1616 it just can't compete with moltres' utility imo. the 16pp for roost, pressure, better physical bulk, defog, and the ability to wall most fighting types are really important. and yes eq immunity is amazing for any defensive mon
@@jacksonsmith2955 well then it's very unfortunate that Moltres doesn't compete with Volcarona, and also isn't in the game.
Roost also doesn't have 16pp anymore.
@@jacksonsmith2955 resisting ice has been pretty useful gen 8 and 9 (while chien pao was around). pressure is ass on moltres cus it would just be worse corv. and moltres can’t turn around and sweep while providing its defensive utility
volc > moltres
Now imagine if buffed defog was in BW, volcarona would be even more crazy
Volcá for ubers
Or if HDB were in BW
Banned.
Depend, the meta would be completely different same for all the banned is basically impossible to predict
@@mirkostefani6327 true although with def of or boots around sun teams would fair wayyyy better and volc under sun sounds nightmarish
BKC crazy… I’m a Japanese speaker living in Japan, who played Smogon Gen 5 from day 1, who sometimes plays the game in Japanese with my kids now- and I don’t remember pre-English BW OU mom’s Japanese names as well as BKC.
BKC when he finds out about Chi-Yu [It is able to one-shot a Blissey at +0 under certain circumstances using Overheat]
I think the issue with that set is that it leaves you hyper vulnerable to get it working as you need to be modest to get to that power
@@andrewwojtas8486you might want to check their speed tiers again because Houndoom definitely isn't faster than Chi-Yu
Also Houndoom doesn't have Solar Power, only M-Houndoom does
@@Sheepie_ my bad
@@andrewwojtas8486 it's an understandable mistake to make
Wow that double toxic miss was brutal
The burn was the cherry on top too
That triple 10% luck of the 2 misses and the burn. A 0.1% chance for that to happen.
I cheered when the first one missed, and cackled when the second did. He got some luck with those double Protects earlier and afterwards, but it wasn't enough to stop The Comeback 💪
Praise Volcarona 🤩🙏 Worship Volcarona 🤩🙏 The church of Volcarona has more influence than you could possibly imagine... 🦋🛐🙇♂
You clap for Volcarona.
You clap for Volcarona.
You clap for Volcarona.
You weep in sorrow before Volcarona.
You stagger before Volcarona.
You kneel before Volcarona.
nah the end of that smurf battle is insane, dug fails to kill -1 victini cause it's max health scarf and dug got min roll, volc comes in to set up and chansey misses two toxics plus gets burned by fire blast and volc clutches up, what a wild ride
Duggy wouldve KOed if it hadn't whiffed the Ground Gem earlier 😭
i wish i can go around saying “bugs should resist stealth rock !” because there’s so many cool bugs that would love to use an item other than boots. but then i remember any bug type buff is a buff to volc, then i become sadness 😒
The real reason why volc is broken in gen 9 is because iron moth and slither wing are confusing people, nobody knows if volc is going to fire off a fiery dance, sludge wave, or cc because they're all the same guy
Flame Body was kind of a niche pick for Tran in gen 8 IMO. With Phys Def helped check Weavile but you have worse matchups into Blacephalon, Volcarona, and the occasional Victini.
Yeah SpD was the standard Heatran
Volcorona got banned. Like its in Ubers now. I do not mind this outcome in the slightest
The thing is that you can beat it fairly easily if you have Dirge but like, it’s Dirge it’s not gonna fit on every team you can’t really just splash it on and expect it to work
Alder knew what he was doing when he picked it for his Ace
Revisting this video after the volc ban and now I believe I understand the council's decicson a bit more. With tera in it's natural state buffing set up sweepers with a suprise factor I see how the council would decide to just quick ban it. It's like espathra but Volc would use tera to dodge a bullet and then sweep like espathra
I still think Tera should be banned doe.
babe wake up new bkc bw ou rant
volcarona is definitely a pokemon
17:40
Knew it..
I mean it did shut down the world for over a year so it's probably pretty good.
That doesn’t even make sense
🎉
@@IndexInvestingWithCole Vol-Corona... Get it? 🙃
@@walaceandrade4046 no
BW Gen 5 is the gift that keeps giving
BKC, make sure to invite us to your wedding with Gen 5 OU
So Happy to see my solar deity moth be busted 🧡
Volcarona doesn't look that cool
@@internetguy7319 what does look cool to u , gardevoir? Lmao
@@internetguy7319 what a cold take
@@internetguy7319 get out
Standard sand to counter rain gets blown away by volc. And given how necesary is standard sand in the metagame i would say that volc is a problem
17:54 paying too much attention to the game god damn the double toxic miss into a burn from fire blast that kills, that's brutal, also wow the double protects
If only that Ninetales had toxic or hypnosis...
Man.
What?
Long answer: this video
Short answer: yes
I still remember when we used bulky volcarona with z bug to hard counter kartana (at the time z giga impact wasn't that common) and soft check + fish for a burn Mega mawile (yes we really were desperate at that time). Volcarona is the kind of pokemon at very spontanious moments of every OU meta since gen 5 makes no sense whatsoever and everyone wants to ban it until he loses its niche and become again the hard quiver dance machine.
I love how that first game was literally a perfect.
perhaps
Super late to the party here, but fellow Gen 9 and previous Gen 5 player. (I've played all gens except 7 and 8.)
Part of the reason behind the rallied cry of Volcarona being broken is actually Heavy-Duty Boots. This allows Volcarona to come in against any kind of hazards and ignore them completely. This turns the 4x weakness to Stealth Rock, the chip from Spikes, poison from TSpikes and speed loss from Sticky Web into non-factors. Most commonly, Volcs in this generation run physically defensive sets to patch up its physically defensive weakness, as well as trying to make much better use of Flame Body to punish the opponents.
Then you have to factor in Terastalization -- The most common Volc Teras are Grass, Ground, Water, and Fairy. Grass covers your ass against Waters and turns your other weaknesses (barring Flying) into neutralities while also pumping up Giga Drain into a third STAB. Ground blocks Twave attempts and alongside Water allow you to absolutely dumpster the best check to Volcarona, Skeledirge. Fairy is there to blast Dragons, even though you generally don't need to.
If you don't have an Unaware Pokemon, or something tanky enough to deal with it, Volcarona can run train through numerous teams at the drop of a hat. Offensive variants still exist, but physically bulky sets are the most common to see. You can try to Haze/Clear Smog it, but that's a lot more difficult to pull off than one thinks.
Volcarona is definitely teetering on the edge of being broken, IMO, but I feel it has more of an effect of "You lose in the team builder for Volcarona" than in-game presence. You ALWAYS have to keep it in mind, or get blasted by it immediately.
Hey BKC will you be covering the recent 500 turn adv game McMeghan played in?
In ORAS Volcarona is also stupidly busted, it has so many different viable hidden power sets, you either have the silver bullet of a check or your entire team gets swept
Except ORAS had un-nerfed Talonflame on every other team, which could instantly invalidate whatever Volc wanted to do back then
Have always loved Volc though I can see how it can be tilting most times after u miss one 90% toxic it’s basically gg. Loved that last game where Volc just 1v4ed at the end
Volcorina seems like a high risk high reward pokemon. It can be super good (fiery dance, bug buzz, quiver dance, giga drain, etc) but it certainly does have checks (rain/water, stealth rock, priority/low defense, Chansey, maybe terrakion?)
*coughs in Tera*
I agree prior to gen 8. Ever since boots got introduced, it's very much a low risk, high reward mon since it can come in whenever it wants. It's often very easy to get to a point where 1 QD=gg. Esp now while knock off is limited
Ah yes vulcarona aka the fire type so strong it makes rain teams sweat.
I can’t get over this, it sounds like there is a cat or something in the background at around 3:06, it literally just sounded like a meow. I don’t know if it’s from the background music or what have you, I’m just hyper fixated on this at the moment lol.
Dw about it, my ADHD will forget about it anyways. You just seem like a cat person lmao
Don't worry tera flying Heatran will come to save the day
With Air Balloon as a troll
@@enoyna1001 Perfect 😂
I'd answer but I largely play stall and 9 times out of 10 volc is harmless to stall unless it's exactly one set and only one set ( anyone curious, the one with safeguard )
Volc in gen 9 reminds me of kyurem in gen 8 but less broken. In gen 8 you always had to scout out what set kyurem was running, you could switch blissey in expecting specs but then be against sub DD never melt ice kyurem, it boosts to +6 and you lose, or you switch in balloon heatran expecting earthpower, get subed on and your magma storms get pp stalled until kyurem is behind a sub, breaks your balloon and continues to destroy your team. It was so hard to counter kyurem as you might have a specs counter but not a sub roost special one or a sub DD one or even scarf or banded kyurem that people started to run late gen 8.
The same can be said for volc, it can be physically defensive U-turn willo, it can be tera grass bulky, tera fairy offensive and so on. You never know what set volc is going to be running and now with terastilisation aka the 10 times better hidden power, you can get steam rolled thinking it's one type of Volvo and it turning out to be another. Def Volc with tera grass is crazy, you're boosting your speed, spdef and spA and if a physical attacker tries coming in, it can get burn while they giga drain or morning sun away the damage. The introduction of heavy duty boots has sky rocketed volcs viability and while I think it's not as broken as kyurem in gen 8, I definitely think it's A tier or S tier in ou gen 9 as of right now. The ability to run a small bit of speed, hp and defense and set up while recovering damage is crazy. Unaware clod definitely helps but then they tera ground or water and snack you hard, if they have spikes and stealth rocks up or get chip on clod early game then it's over.
Volc has a great ability, a good typing and now with terastilisation it's unpredictable, a great movepool, a great setup move and two forms of recovery. Has all the potential of staying a top tier Mon in ou all this gen.
Another note: volc being able to tera grass before rocks are put up is huge as now you can run covert cloak, leftovers, big root etc. And not worry about stealth rocks. Also shed tail teams with screens and volc are crazy. Hard to pull off but if you're not prepared with a phasing Mon or taunt, can ruin your day.
I think volcarona isn't overly broken, it's just doing what it's always done, getting a free quiver dance, getting a fiery dance, boost then sweeping
However volcarona runs morning run occasionally to help it cheese matchups similarly to what kuyrem did in gen 8 with roost.....
@Giwrgos Petrou yeah but it depends on what it's fighting as from what I've seen most unaware mons have been falling off slightly
Whats the music used in the video
A game that finally got rid of scald and nerfed the pp on recovery moves just had to add terrastallization.
Me who ran Scarf ninja in gen 7 just for rona
yes
Shed Tail Volc is underutilized
HO requires less turns to win games. It is similar to BP, you fish all game for your gimmick that will end the game immediately.
Which one future past or mega?
Hi as a dumb player here just a question i am wondering what u think about the new victory dance physical quiver dance
I think that another derivative of this style of Pokémon to volc is dragon dance dnite. The ability to be just bulky enough to get multiple set ups on some monstrous offensive stats with access to recovery AND meta warping offensive options (like extreme speed + earthquake gen 9, dual wing beat + ice punch + earthquake gen 8). Spot on with volc countering the meta counters. Screens + bulky set up sweepers are not particularly skillful imo, like espathra
Heatran will save us once again.
But teratype
Not with tera ground or water
@@yeet8036 theres no heatran to save you in sv
@@bohrierpokemonvideos392 Not yet...
Once Home comes around, Heatran will appear as a hero like Palafin
@@obiwancannoli1920 doesnt volc get scorching sands?
youre good at explaining this stuff
Jusy fyi, there's an early famous BW rom hack where Volcarona gets DROUGHT AND THUNDERBOLT
I love volcarona so much
It's an issue of how much a mon is countered in game vs in team builder. In more recent gens there's been more and more threats that you prepare specifically for or most likely die to, and Volc is an example of that.
That's present since Gen 1 when you have to use Rydhon or Golem to counter normal types and at least 1 psychic type to not die.
dude these ninetales double protect luck is crazy
Don't have time to watch this right now, but I'm excited. Volcarona is what's really ruined my enjoyment of Black and White OU more than anything
Somebody PLEASE help me create a DPP Ubers team with my Swords Dance Garchomp.
I have searched everywhere and even created various SD Chomp teams of my own but failed miserably.
Yes.
Volcarona definitely creates a teambuilding chokehold that's almost insufferable at times, especially in ORAS.
And this is w/ the fact you have smogon bird talonflame and volcanion, but then you just create a very unhealthy mu cycle, b/c now cofagrigus/offense teams that just load drill hate start to rise. And then to beat THOSE kinds of teams and be better off vs the general meta, you compromise your volcarona mu, its just very frustrating as a whole b/c all of your checks have to be able to answer it at +1
Rocks+Priority or Chansey hard counter the moth though.
@@DarthFhenix55 Screens has suicide lando-t/drill, both of which for the most part ensure that rocks stay off the field unless you jump a million hoops, the only priority reliable at killing the thing is talonflame, chansey is very team restricting, so all you have done is point out how restricting moth is in the builder .-.
@@DrIthi There are counters to suicide Lando and exca, like Mega Scizor, Slowbro or Gliscor, that's not a Vol-turn level strategy.
@@DarthFhenix55 none of those stop the suicide lead from getting their rocks up, nor do they keep them off, they'll do their job regardess of getting rocks on your side, and just let the next teammate in, often serperior in for free to get up screens leafstorm, glare or in the case of scizor, volcarona or dnite just comes in for free and 2 teammates are now either dead or heavily worn out.
these are pokemon that match-up very poorly against screens .-.
you should do a video about gen 6 volcarona but with your mod (ithi) would be funny lmao
Mfw I know it's broken but vote not to ban cuz moth cute 😈
broken.? no. annoying? most certainly. imo its even more annoying than say a clefable cuz clef you just play around it.it fucks around a bit but it cant do that much to pull ur hair out and u can react quickly to cm clef and beat it. volc can just fucking sweep you if your not positioned correctly/dont have the counter.
Volc is just that good in gen 9 cuz heatran doesn't exist now, or else it'll have to pick and choose between losing to clod, tran, tera fire kinggambit, pex also checks it quite well
Volcarona definitely in the top ten of mons that i have a hard time with in any gen.
I'm still in this denial phase where Volc is my favorite pokemon but as I enter the competitive scene slowly, all the eyes are on it. It's really weird, but I just take it as a W
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While there are scarfers faster than Volc in BW that are good (Chomp/Terrak), I'd much rather use SD or ChainChomp, since Scarf is terrible against Reuni+Spikes teams (and bulkier teams in general). Often times I just accept that the right Volc set will wreck me if I can't keep rocks up. I can't cover everything, so I'd rather focus on being good against the common teams.
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I would be so pissed if they ban Volc she is my favorite, I know that's not competitive but rooting for a fire bug type has been the best. She is on like 85% of all teams I make, nothing else fills the roll of crazy set up sweeper and I think the negatives of running Volc are obvious. So in conclusion smogon loves stall 💔
The desire for a competitive metagame leaving my body whenever anyone suggests banning Volcarona (it's my favorite too lol)
gen 9 players: is volcarona broken?
BKC: always has been
I dont think it's broken cause to me it seems relatively checkable . It is really good though one of the best mons in the tier. Also BKC showing that he is a boomer by flexing the japanese name LMAO
I might be wrong though but for me it hasnt been horribly hard to check
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Yes volcarona is the single most overpowered Pokémon ever
That I don’t think ever got banned
Yes
Its a shame that I have to despise such a cool looking pokemon
I’ll never understand why a Pokémon everyone used to think was a Legendary and has never dropped out of OU got two new versions of itself in Gen 9, both arguably worse than Volcarona
ruclips.net/video/yRepIDuiNV0/видео.html here's the shofu video you're talking about
possibly the first volcarona sweep ever to be recorded online
13 years ago...
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can you make a video about “the the building conundrum?” a lot of people talk about it like it’s a bad thing but i think a team that comfortably checks the entire meta would be extremely lame
#makeknockoffgreatagain
55% to Starmie is nasty
Some spanish speaking players call it Volcabrona, cabron(a) being a insult that means goat. Anyway, QDless volc in ADV when?
I want chlorophyll back
Quiver Dance, Speed Boost, and Shift Gear were mistakes.
Do you wanna watch a video of BKC complaining about gen 5 OU for the 80th time this month? I sure am
i see iron moth way more than volc tbh
lol,its trash...i have tried it myself,it cant even use energy booster properly bcz of sr weakness..and it has only one good set..Energy booster agility... and not to mention that trash ability
@@Musasensei1674sludge wave QD. energy ball, firey dance is a great set wym
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 iron moth doesnt learn quiver dance,what are u talking about
@@Musasensei1674whoops my b. regardless, u turn and discharge are still great options.
Volcarona also has the incredible trait of DESTROYING psychic spam. All three of Alakazam, Reuniclus and Cresselia get demolished by Bug Buzz after a boost. Alakazam with focus sash can stop Volcarona, once, but then it’s vulnerable to all of Volcarona teammates. And that isn’t even a good example because Alakazam wants to run life orb and it gets completely invalidated by Volcarona if it does. Volcarona is also commonly paired with other set up sweepers like SD Garchomp, DD Dragonite, and nasty plot Thundurus just to name a few. So Volcarona may not offer much defensively but it offers a ton offensively.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about because EVERYONE uses sash Alakazam, even non-psychic Spam Sand teams
I just made #1 on BW OU ladder 2 weeks ago with Moltres rain and have played BW since release
Who uses cres in bw ou? Especially on sand teams?
I don’t know enough about BW tier but from other gens getting volc in to do it’s thing isn’t that simple. I also rarely see it be able to get that many QD under its belt. This might just be that metas have become quicker paced. It does seem like Gen 5 doesn’t have a ton of options to deal with it though. Idk I could never go back and get in to Gen 5 because weather wars are too centralizing for me. To me Gen 5’s “gimmick” is perma-weather and I’m just not a fan.
Getting Volc in safley is one ofnthe hardest things to pull off in Gen 5 due to hazards being everywhere.
magearna IS that lame, and is way more broken than volc ever was, and should be banned
If you look at the game as GF intended, it's a weak Pokemon compared to gen 5 full power rain, mega Kang, primals, all banned ultra beasts, dynamax, and fluttermain
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