Thus Peter guy has garbage takes, doesn’t really know what good takes are. He’s been crap with choosing players to get for the jays, mostly all junk that were don’t need. This guys like a Atkins, let’s grab garbage and see if it’s gonna stick
Are you guys schizo? So you are ok with wasting 2 more years of Vladdys prime? If Atkins can actually sign him to an extension which I dont thjnk he has the skill to do. Its a terrible trade. Either rebuild by getting actual prospects that can become cornerstone pieces, top 50 MLB prospect. Or start getting starting roster players to surround Vladdy . This half ass crap of filling the roster with stop gap players will never result in a successful playoffs run. FIRE ATKINS!
So many rumours and so much speculation. Wonder where so many sports writers come up with this stuff. Most of the time it’s not even close to how things really play out.
Love the trade, can turn around and trade Arcia right after you get him or at the trade deadline, younger and more talented seems to be the new way forward in MLB.
Why oh why does MLB scrap the lead-off runner on second base in extra innings? Stay consistent. Ban this asinine rule altogether, or retain it in all the games, regular season and post-season.
I'd take the deal if the Jays added Springer and the Braves gave up one of their lower rated hard throwers like Lara, Vargas, Munoz, Johnson. Hard ask but ... Baldwin doesn't look great behind the plate. His contact hitting may be his best attribute. As for Smith-Shawver, he throws hard and is young. Got lit last year in AAA and didn't average 5 innings per start and wasn't brought up even though the Braves starting rotation was ravaged by injuries. Better than the Loperfido + Bloss or Whisenhunt + Luciano packages talked about before.
If they trade Bo or not how about them go after Willy Adames and move Bo to 2nd base if they don’t trade him and if they do the could move Arcia to 2nd or have him as bench player if they get him
Stop. Just stop. As the article CLEARLY says this is just the author's idle thoughts. It isn't a rumour, let alone an escalating rumour, Buhler even says at the beginning "how about this deal?"
haven't you guys been preaching offense? now we are cool with giving up one of our best hitters for an older, less productive shortstop... another starting pitcher, which didn't seem to be our issue and a "top prospect" (which as we know, every prospect always live up to their potential..)
Out of the 3 coming to Toronto, the Atlanta side admits one has regressed (Arcia) and another (Smith-Shawver)…“nobody in Braves Country believes in him”. So…2 out of the 3 are bums. Sounds like a great deal to me! 🙄 Are you Ross Atkins by chance?
@@JaysTalk89whispers back…why is a team that Atkins has been in charge of for 9 years regressing to a worse team than I have seen since the expansion years from 77 till about 83? (Yes I was at Exhibition Stadium on April 7, 1977 so I’ve followed them since day 1). Why do they have one of the worst farm systems in MLB baseball that is drier than the Sahara for talent? Why did Atkins do nothing last winter but get KK, IKF and Turner….all who didn’t make it to the end of the year, and we wound up watching a AAA team for most of the year, leaving the farm system even more arid? If you think he’s doing a great job, more power to you, but you are in the minority. Yes not every trade he’s made over his tenure was terrible. But his overall track record, combined with his word salad gobbledygook that he expects fans to buy into is.
@@midnightrambler7716 his roster construction isn’t good right now but it’s not from incompetent trades it’s the trades or signings they haven’t made and even more importantly the terrible draft and development. The actual signings and trades he’s pulled the trigger on have for the most part been quite good.
@@JaysTalk89 My original comment was not limited to to trades. The overall package from Atkins sucks. 9 years of regression and futility. And AA would eat him for lunch. He’s far more shrewd. Atkins is a dimwit comparatively. Also…his two biggest most recent trades WERE terrible. Giving up Moreno and Gurriel Jr for Varsho was awful. Kirk or Jansen should have gone (probably Kirk) if a catcher had to be included, and really one or the other plus a lower prospect or 2 should have sufficed for Varsho. Atkins got fleeced on that one. And don’t get me started on Teoscar Hernandez for Swanson and Macko. Swanson can barely stay out of AAA and Macko just barely got a crack at AAA after sporting a 4.87 ERA in AA. So I don’t hold out much hope for him. If you call wallowing in mediocrity with low level garbage picking “a pretty good trade history”, I don’t know what to tell you.
@@midnightrambler7716 it’s not 9 years of regression. 17,18,19 were all rebuild. 20 was a surprise playoff berth. 21 was a wicked team that barely missed the playoffs, 22 we lost out with offence and not enough pitching/D then we overcompensated in 23 and lost out with too much pitching/D. 24 was the first “holy f*ck” year and clear step back.
@@johnmackenzie2277You’ll get a hell of a lot more if he has a decent first half at the trade deadline than you would now. Nothing to lose by playing him till the end of July and then dealing him. He won’t be worse than last year.
We don't want Arcia? 273 OBP you got to be kidding me! I hear that pitcher is a bum also. Don't know anything about that catching prospect, but hell no. Ernie Clement is a better shortstop than Arcia! Plus Bo will be playing for a NICE NEW ONCE IN A LIFETIME HUGE CONTRACT! He will have a career year no matter what team Bo is playing for in 2025 so if you want the Jays to win in 2025, you keep Bo. If its another bad season for us, THEN you trade Bo for a cathers prospect at the trade deadline.
I hate to say you guys are not gonna get a big haul for Bichette right now. He’s coming off a very bad season and the Braves are not gonna give away to the young prospects like Smith, Schwarber and. Drake Ballwin for rental even though I like Bo they’re not gonna do that. It have lesser of package from the brave I don’t you going see that any other team so either the Blue Jays are gonna have to come down on their asking price for him or the circumstances or he probably will be a Bluejay going to the next season and then walking free agency I think it happen package of nacho , Dodd and maybe Bryce elder , but just see that happen the Braves made a huge trade love season and they got from the Boston Red Sox sale for Vaughn Grissom so to think that you’re gonna get all that for Bichette who’s coming off a very bad and injured year is this not gonna happen? Sorry as good as Bo can be. the factors he’s never one VP he’s never gonna sit young. He hasn’t been a top three player as his position and he’s just not gonna get that much specially coming off of major injury gear and very bad at that.
@@chrishutchens5167 there’s no incentive to come down on price. They’re giving away a full season of Bo’s production and a comp pick that will be either 2nd or 4th rd I believe. Plus inside track on extending or re-signing him. It’s either what might be viewed as an overpay currently or he’s not moving
@@JaysTalk89 here’s the thing like I said, doesn’t mean he’s gonna be traded. I’m just saying you’re not gonna get what you would’ve gotten. If he was coming off a good year he’s coming off an entry year where his production was bad plan simple when the Braves traded to get sell last year. Boston got one premier, Marley player and cell was coming off a season where he played decently wellbottom line his value is not as good as you guys want to put out to be right now you’re not gonna get that you were hoping for if you’re gonna trade and he wanna trade him and just wait to get to the comp next year leaves
Not a chance I want to trade Bo for prospects unless we are hitting the reset button and trading Vlad too. Need rdy now guys for Bo or we are wasting Vlad's window even more anyways.
When are the Jays trading Shapiro and Atkins, now that is a deal the team cannot refuse.
Do you guys EVER get anything right?
Thus Peter guy has garbage takes, doesn’t really know what good takes are. He’s been crap with choosing players to get for the jays, mostly all junk that were don’t need. This guys like a Atkins, let’s grab garbage and see if it’s gonna stick
These are not trade rumors, they are daydreams.
Are you guys schizo? So you are ok with wasting 2 more years of Vladdys prime? If Atkins can actually sign him to an extension which I dont thjnk he has the skill to do. Its a terrible trade. Either rebuild by getting actual prospects that can become cornerstone pieces, top 50 MLB prospect. Or start getting starting roster players to surround Vladdy . This half ass crap of filling the roster with stop gap players will never result in a successful playoffs run. FIRE ATKINS!
Yep. A quarter-ass effort for 10 years now.
Vladdy says he wants to stay, but what he doesn't tell us he wants 40+ million.
He have to sign vladdy so I disagree, it doesn’t take skill to sign vladdy lmao 🤣 😂
I love vladdy, but it the Jays can land Soto..... im taking him over anybody not named Judge/Ohtani.
So many rumours and so much speculation. Wonder where so many sports writers come up with this stuff. Most of the time it’s not even close to how things really play out.
Its all BS speculation for clicks. Almost none of this stuff actually happens.
NO FUCKIN WAY. I would only do this if they take Arcia off the list and give me another top 5 prospect.
Love the trade, can turn around and trade Arcia right after you get him or at the trade deadline, younger and more talented seems to be the new way forward in MLB.
Why oh why does MLB scrap the lead-off runner on second base in extra innings? Stay consistent. Ban this asinine rule altogether, or retain it in all the games, regular season and post-season.
Wow. The lighting matches the Rogers Centre background perfectly Peter. Or are you actually there? 🤔
I'd take the deal if the Jays added Springer and the Braves gave up one of their lower rated hard throwers like Lara, Vargas, Munoz, Johnson. Hard ask but ... Baldwin doesn't look great behind the plate. His contact hitting may be his best attribute. As for Smith-Shawver, he throws hard and is young. Got lit last year in AAA and didn't average 5 innings per start and wasn't brought up even though the Braves starting rotation was ravaged by injuries. Better than the Loperfido + Bloss or Whisenhunt + Luciano packages talked about before.
If they trade Bo or not how about them go after Willy Adames and move Bo to 2nd base if they don’t trade him and if they do the could move Arcia to 2nd or have him as bench player if they get him
That return package for Bo is the definition of "mid".
Stop. Just stop. As the article CLEARLY says this is just the author's idle thoughts. It isn't a rumour, let alone an escalating rumour, Buhler even says at the beginning "how about this deal?"
haven't you guys been preaching offense? now we are cool with giving up one of our best hitters for an older, less productive shortstop... another starting pitcher, which didn't seem to be our issue and a "top prospect" (which as we know, every prospect always live up to their potential..)
Decent trade if your looking to rebuild
I make that trade in a heartbeat .
Out of the 3 coming to Toronto, the Atlanta side admits one has regressed (Arcia) and another (Smith-Shawver)…“nobody in Braves Country believes in him”. So…2 out of the 3 are bums. Sounds like a great deal to me! 🙄 Are you Ross Atkins by chance?
this is a dumbass trade
Too much speculation. Where are these rumours from. Is this just a guess from you guys?
Shatkins dealing with AA. Oh yeah…this’ll go well…
*whispers* Atkins actually has a pretty good trade history
@@JaysTalk89whispers back…why is a team that Atkins has been in charge of for 9 years regressing to a worse team than I have seen since the expansion years from 77 till about 83? (Yes I was at Exhibition Stadium on April 7, 1977 so I’ve followed them since day 1). Why do they have one of the worst farm systems in MLB baseball that is drier than the Sahara for talent? Why did Atkins do nothing last winter but get KK, IKF and Turner….all who didn’t make it to the end of the year, and we wound up watching a AAA team for most of the year, leaving the farm system even more arid? If you think he’s doing a great job, more power to you, but you are in the minority. Yes not every trade he’s made over his tenure was terrible. But his overall track record, combined with his word salad gobbledygook that he expects fans to buy into is.
@@midnightrambler7716 his roster construction isn’t good right now but it’s not from incompetent trades it’s the trades or signings they haven’t made and even more importantly the terrible draft and development.
The actual signings and trades he’s pulled the trigger on have for the most part been quite good.
@@JaysTalk89 My original comment was not limited to to trades. The overall package from Atkins sucks. 9 years of regression and futility. And AA would eat him for lunch. He’s far more shrewd. Atkins is a dimwit comparatively.
Also…his two biggest most recent trades WERE terrible. Giving up Moreno and Gurriel Jr for Varsho was awful. Kirk or Jansen should have gone (probably Kirk) if a catcher had to be included, and really one or the other plus a lower prospect or 2 should have sufficed for Varsho. Atkins got fleeced on that one. And don’t get me started on Teoscar Hernandez for Swanson and Macko. Swanson can barely stay out of AAA and Macko just barely got a crack at AAA after sporting a 4.87 ERA in AA. So I don’t hold out much hope for him. If you call wallowing in mediocrity with low level garbage picking “a pretty good trade history”, I don’t know what to tell you.
@@midnightrambler7716 it’s not 9 years of regression. 17,18,19 were all rebuild. 20 was a surprise playoff berth. 21 was a wicked team that barely missed the playoffs, 22 we lost out with offence and not enough pitching/D then we overcompensated in 23 and lost out with too much pitching/D. 24 was the first “holy f*ck” year and clear step back.
No way. This is ridiculous.
Peter you say with enthusisasm, a TRADE PACKAGE HAS BEEN REVEALIED, AND ARE SLOW TO TELL US WHO? What are you drinking???
No thanks braves
AA knows he can take Atkins to the cleaners!
You just don't dump Bo off for rubbish?
Bo would make the Braves an instant World Series contender? Jokes
I like the trade
WHY?
@@alanmurr6562bcuz Bo doesn’t want to here and after next season you will get nothing for him
@@johnmackenzie2277You’ll get a hell of a lot more if he has a decent first half at the trade deadline than you would now. Nothing to lose by playing him till the end of July and then dealing him. He won’t be worse than last year.
Who the hell trades a HOF path player for prospects? Do better guys, please tell me you don’t think this trade makes sense?
We don't want Arcia? 273 OBP you got to be kidding me! I hear that pitcher is a bum also. Don't know anything about that catching prospect, but hell no. Ernie Clement is a better shortstop than Arcia! Plus Bo will be playing for a NICE NEW ONCE IN A LIFETIME HUGE CONTRACT! He will have a career year no matter what team Bo is playing for in 2025 so if you want the Jays to win in 2025, you keep Bo. If its another bad season for us, THEN you trade Bo for a cathers prospect at the trade deadline.
I hate to say you guys are not gonna get a big haul for Bichette right now. He’s coming off a very bad season and the Braves are not gonna give away to the young prospects like Smith, Schwarber and. Drake Ballwin for rental even though I like Bo they’re not gonna do that. It have lesser of package from the brave I don’t you going see that any other team so either the Blue Jays are gonna have to come down on their asking price for him or the circumstances or he probably will be a Bluejay going to the next season and then walking free agency I think it happen package of nacho , Dodd and maybe Bryce elder , but just see that happen the Braves made a huge trade love season and they got from the Boston Red Sox sale for Vaughn Grissom so to think that you’re gonna get all that for Bichette who’s coming off a very bad and injured year is this not gonna happen? Sorry as good as Bo can be. the factors he’s never one VP he’s never gonna sit young. He hasn’t been a top three player as his position and he’s just not gonna get that much specially coming off of major injury gear and very bad at that.
@@chrishutchens5167 there’s no incentive to come down on price. They’re giving away a full season of Bo’s production and a comp pick that will be either 2nd or 4th rd I believe. Plus inside track on extending or re-signing him.
It’s either what might be viewed as an overpay currently or he’s not moving
@@JaysTalk89 here’s the thing like I said, doesn’t mean he’s gonna be traded. I’m just saying you’re not gonna get what you would’ve gotten. If he was coming off a good year he’s coming off an entry year where his production was bad plan simple when the Braves traded to get sell last year. Boston got one premier, Marley player and cell was coming off a season where he played decently wellbottom line his value is not as good as you guys want to put out to be right now you’re not gonna get that you were hoping for if you’re gonna trade and he wanna trade him and just wait to get to the comp next year leaves
Not a chance I want to trade Bo for prospects unless we are hitting the reset button and trading Vlad too. Need rdy now guys for Bo or we are wasting Vlad's window even more anyways.
No not gonna happen. Nope.
This is fkn whack....why trade Bo...& if they do gotta get a much better player then these trucks....
No, just no.
Wow got nothing else to talk about so let’s make up rumours 😂 but ….no gotta get laid eh?
LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get rid of bichette!!!!!!!!