It’s from Love Rokz - I can’t link it cause the website does “drops” and they sell out in 2.5 seconds 😭 this is their IG, they announce when stuff goes on sale!! instagram.com/love.rokz?igsh=MTF2NmxsOWExMzJlbQ==
It's SUCH a great necklace! Also love the red (glass?) heart pendant you had on in a recent video - or is this the same one and I'm remembering weird? Either way, your style is so fab!
“Admit I’m wrong? Not possible. My ego won’t allow me to be anything but correct because if I did make a mistake I’d have to reflect on everything and I just can’t…” , lots of people like this probably
@@EroticInfernonot probably-definitely. If you follow true crime, cults, drama, etc you see dozens of them. We really need parenting classes in schools, with a therapist running them. Sigh.
An artist local to me got exposed for assaulting his clients, 'quit' the industry for a couple of years, and last year he came back in a new studio a few miles away and under a different name. If he can do that (and his crimes are way worse) then she definitely will.
Same happened near me! An artist was known for being a creep and assaulting people so he moved county’s and changed his name and even started wearing a mask to ‘rebrand’ himself 🤦🏻♀️
This screams “legal scapegoat” if her business is defunct it’s much harder to sue and/or get refunds from her. I see her starting up again in another state in a year or so
I give it six months at most. She'll open in the same town under a new llc. When you sign paperwork before a tattoo read the damn thing! I guarantee she was tattooed by an llc , NOT the artist. Sounds silly right, but it works everytime. Read your releases ladies and gentlemen.
Yup. Plus think about much money she has banked up from scamming her clients for as long as she did. Like how long was she charging these prices before the internet got a hold of tattoo gate? Exactly like if Lindsey was smart she could easily have $50,000 or more saved up from scamming people she can now live on for a few years. Well at least now in the future she’ll have to find other ways to extort money from people.
@@legenarylemonhun $50k won’t last 1 year if she’s American & has to support herself in a city. Unless she has people to live with or she can go to the countryside
@@legenarylemonI wish I still believed 50k was enough to live on for multiple years. I make more than that a year and barely scrape by so… yea if she’s got 50k stashed away she has a year at most
Closing her business will also make it more difficult for any of her former clients to file any legal actions against her. If any of them decide to go after money lost, it will be next to impossible. She can hide behind the closed doors.
@annieworroll4373 I tried to get Attorney Tom to look at it, but he hasn't so far and I am not sure if he will. But they both have subreddits you can make posts to suggest video ideas.
Oh, Lindsay is definitely not gone. She’s just gone I to hiding. That’s what all scammers do. She’ll lay low, and once things have gone quiet and people have either moved on or forgotten, she’ll reopen her studio under a different name and go back to doing what she does best: swindling unsuspecting customers out of thousands of dollars.
Normally I don’t comment on RUclips videos but I was tattooed by Lindsay before she opened her own studio. She has always been extremely money hungry and none of what has come out about her is surprising to me. She charged me double what she quoted me and it wasn’t what I wanted. I doubt this will be the end for her, she will no doubt try to wait for this to die down and then reopen somewhere else.
I’m a tattooer, and this does seem like she’s making herself out to be some kind of martyr, like she HAD to make this huge sacrifice because people are shunning her, and she doesn’t seem to understand why. And I hate that she’s suddenly trying to appeal to her clients and act like she cares for them so much, when her actions completely go against that. If you cared so much about your clients, you wouldn’t rob them, and you would NEVER let them walk around with a tattoo they were unhappy with. I try my hardest to make sure my clients are happy, and I take their trust very seriously. All I know is her heart isn’t really into tattooing. If it was, she would be doing everything to make things right. I really hope she just finds a new career, and moves on.
That was my first thought too, she's trying to play the martyr who has to give it all up against her will like she was bullied into that corner. I'm an artist and I did a few tattoos myself when I had a friend who was one and she let me give it a shot. The anxiety I felt that I would make a permanent mistake on someone's skin made me decide to not pursue that route. I don't understand how some of these artists can be so flippant about something that is so expensive to fix. I wasn't even ok that I was hurting them with the needles so I have huge respect for all tattoo artists that can do it properly.
tbh even if she does donate it all just seems very performative in my eyes. like she's doing all this just so ppl think "oh she's a nice person now" when donating doesn't solve the problems she caused at all. instead she could give the money back to those she scammed, but ofc she's obviously not willing to admit she's wrong in anyway.
Right? She won't! Also, when she mentionned God in her closing statement, I was like ALRIGHT here we go! I wouldn't be suprised if she pulls the religion card, like so many scammers did, in order to appear like they changed. Or even gain a following in the christian community 🤦🏼♀️ Why do they all act the same way?
Less sketchy to decline tips and direct to her favorite charity instead. Maybe do something cute in the store like make a donation wall or something to show how many people proved they donated, idk.
So, this has actually been crazy to watch unfold, because Lindsey was actually my middle school bully. She would literally wait for me to pass her unit (we lived in the same townhouse complex) and follow me to school everyday harassing me. Now, had she have matured into a well adjusted kind adult, I would never really judge something based on things they did at the age of thirteen, but I guess she is the same bully she was back then.
I want to believe that shes offering the services she is out of genuine care but... With how she acted towards her clients and how she talked about herself like she was justified in attempting to sue the people who spoke out against her. It feels very much like her "ohh im so kind let me do a memorial tattoo for you, watch me donate to charity with what little pittance the internet demons have left me with" song and dance is just to make herself look like a saint in her final moments. And for what its worth, i think she has PLENTY of money and supplies left. Something tells me shes shutting down her shop to get out of refunding people :/ you give her a lot of grace in this video but i feel like tattoo artists who mistreat their clients and use them as cash cows genuinely SHOULDNT be in the industry any more.
Honestly it makes perfect sense for her to close her studio. With the reputation she has no I doubt she would be getting many clients. Even if she made an apology video and even if it was genuine and not just to save face, who in their right mind would go to a tattoo artist that overcharges, scams their clients, and steals art, when you can go to one who didn't do that. "Taking accountability" and apologizing is worthless when she knew what she was doing and would be apologizing only because she was caught.
Not to be preachy or anything but that comment about pulling the plug on her baby rubbed me the absolute wrong way, like that comparison is fucking wild. She could have just said ‘this business was my baby’ and it would’ve got the point across without being so… gross
Completely uncalled for. I hope anyone with experience that's actually close to that, i.e. not this, is doing OK. And she knew what she was doing, too, as it led into the whole memorial tattoo business, as if it's a shared grief.
Same. My best friend has lost a child (at 4yo) and closed a business based around her passion (photography). I'm sure it's easy to guess which one she still grieves and which one is barely a second thought.
My immediate reaction to seeing this in my feed was “THERE’S MORE?!” And the way she’s talking about what the shop means to her and having to close it down… like…. girl, you’re the one that destroyed it all by your own hands. Scams like this may make you a lot of money but it’s never gonna be able to last. Sooner or later, you’re inevitably going to get caught and lose everything (except sometimes the money but that’s still a sad little life even if the money is the one thing you get to keep).
I was betting on it maybe taking 4 years, but seeing how many people are also highly suspicious that she's just rebranding herself I think it'll only take 2 years.
@@bloodyneptune yes I agree. It’s one thing to have like, undiagnosed/unmedicated mental health issues HOWEVER, these people in Particular seem to KNOW what their behavior does to people
She will just reopen somewhere else under a new name, and continue on. She is running from the reviews right now, refusing to refund or accept responsibility for her previous behaviour, and as soon as the dust settles, she will pop up like a deadly mushroom and start over.
I am absolutely appalled and disgusted by the way that she compared closing her business to “pulling the plug on her own baby“. Because as a person who has their own businesses and has also had to make the heart wrenching, devastating decision to take their six month old baby off of life-support, a.k.a. “pull the plug on my own baby“ there is absolutely no real comparison between the two whatsoever
I may be cynical but I wonder if this is a tactic to make her look more sympathetic in the legal cases? Either way I have a feeling she'll resurface at some point! Btw the moth is looking wonderful, as if it's always been there! 🥰
Eager to find out more. I honestly.stopped tracking this on tiktok just because it got draining 😅. But anytime you talk about it its condensed and excellently explained. Can't wait!
At least this situation has let me know that if any tattoo artist tries to charge for a "design fee" or anything similar to what Lindsey was trying, then I'm running for the hills out of fear of getting scammed. Artists deserve fair pay and all but I'll die before i spend thousands of dollars in any old regular tattoo. All she did was make things harder for tattoo artists honestly
Watching RUclips on my tv without my glasses, I can just read titles, but not when the video was posted - I was like “what? Is this a *NEW* tattoos gate video!??” Immediately clicked to find out and was pleasantly (because it’s Lauren, not that there is more to tattoo gate) surprised that it is in fact a new video !
My best friend (no tattoos) told me (three tattoos) about your channel and I became an instant fan! I've watched all of your Tattoo Gate videos and you did such a wonderful job with covering the story while remaining fair and balanced in your commentary. Thank you for your content!! 🖤🖤
This woman clearly has a huge ego and she is not willing to apologize or take accountability for any of her actions. I can almost guarantee that she'll move to another part of Canada and open a shop in a year or two under a different name and start scamming people in a different area. People like her are always going to find a way to scam people.. she's gross.
I know that in the US, she can write off her time, materials, & space for the “donated” tattoos as a loss to reduce the taxes that she owes. All the tips that are “donated” can also serve as a write off if the donation is over $2,000 (that’s the standard amount the IRS assumes the average person gives). So even if this doesn’t turn into another scam, I don’t imagine she is simply doing this out of the goodness of her heart. Even if it’s all above board, she gets a big tax incentive.
For my first tattoo I did a 20€ deposit and the deposit would be in the final price of the tattoo (in case I couldn't make it the tattoo artist keeps the deposit). After that, I tried to give him a deposit each time but he refused because, and I quote: "Nah you always show up and if you're a little late you always call so you're chill. I know I won't lose money on you. No deposit"
Also, I honestly fear she’ll be taken on at another studio. There’s a lot of less than stellar studios around, a lot of other big cities she could move to and blend in or small towns that don’t have a lot of access to artists. I could see her keeping her head down and still tattooing at a studio she didn’t own if her pride allowed it.
Sounds like she didn't learn anything. I hope she never comes back and scams others again, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did. I want to add because no one else seems to be talking about it, an anti-MLM RUclipsr covered this story and actually snuck into the Launchpad group before it locked down. There, she found Lindsey's response to the drama including admitting to and showing a screen recording of using AI to make the fox tattoo, which is really another form of art theft. It was very shocking.
I’m cynical so I think she is gunna open a new shop somewhere else, maybe restart her social media to get away from her bad name so she can get back to uninterrupted business.
She's offering an hour long free tattoo? An hour?!?!! Isn't this also the lady who took entire 8 hour work days to do partial outlines on people?!?! LOL
I just wonder if for those memorial tattoos she'd want a consultation first...to charge for that. If it ran over that hour I'd be like "It's an hour, I'm out." And just have it wrapped and walk.
Before you got to the end I was like "I would bet a million dollars that in less than 5 years the internet figures out she's operating in a new tattoo studio under a new alias and is still scamming people."
I told my artist about tattoogate while I was sitting for mine. She’s an older artist with a ton of experience (came up underground in Boston, actually part of the group that fought to get tattooing legalized in MA). She was shocked and disgusted.
The phrase "don't judge me by the chapter you walked in on" is a good lesson to us all that no matter what the situation/chapter, we should strive to represent ourselves well.....otherwise we will end up in a situation that has the word "gate" in the title
It’s so wild to even imagine my artist doing that to me. I’m getting a tattoo on the 3rd, and we text like we’ve known each other our entire lives, and give him gifts as well as a cash tip. He’s never charged me for a consultation either -he and my partner know each other from school- so I don’t went to his house and met his family and he was so I to my ideas didn’t make me feel silly. Really good guy. Another artist at his shop went viral on tiktok doing an over the garden wall tattoo and had lil pumpkin ink cups.
I totally agree with you! I feel she is making people feel like awww look, she is nice. Then lay low for a bit, then come back. Because hey, she was nice once 😂.
I think she'll probably try to do the same as James Somerton who tried to reactivate his patreon with changed name etc. If she doesn't come back to tattooing, she'll probably start a different scam
@@edelleaa Not true. Emotional damage, physical damage, additional expenses surrounding interactions with her, are all potential lawsuits. That's even if she is able to potentially refund everyone she tattooed in the last 7-5 years or so including inflation. (It changes from state to state, so I might remember incorrectly, but criminal case has 7 years and civil 5 years of it still being legally actionable). Moreover, if she admits guild her state can bring up charges of fraud against her, this has nothing to do with refunds.
@@W.Rain. i understand your point but i just think it wouldn't have gotten to that point if she was just a decent person and refunded people on the spot when they asked for it is all im saying.
I am crying 😂. This came up suggested on my TV so I started watching out of interest. I'm a tattooed person and I have been friends with many tattoo people, artists and shops. I also happen to be from Michigan, but have traveled all over. The reason I just laughed at the end of this video is, the whole time I'm watching it, mentally I am saying "lmao I KNOW people who have charged for tattoo apprenticeships, and a LOT at that" 😂😂😂 and when you got the part where she said she was gonna pay 5 grand for one I lost it 😂😂😂 EXACTLY. The scene here is ruthless and ridiculous imo. Although I do have to point out the people that I knew back in the day that were charging, they were charging for THE top rated and most expensive and most popular shop (Mos Eisleys, Grand Rapids, MI). That is the difference. It's a major city. I moved down state a few years ago so I live 30 minutes from South Haven and it's not that big of a town, and honestly I don't know what the clientele are like there. Grand Rapids is huge, and the punk and metal scene is tightknit. You're lucky to get a good apprenticeship you really have to know somebody... Regardless, I've only ever heard of unpaid apprenticeships otherwise 😂 kids, get a machine off amazon, some fake skin or some oranges, and at least just start practicing! At least figure out if you really want to do this forever before dropping 5 g's 😂❤
Thanks for this series Treacle! I love your compassionate attitude and friendly manner you convey in your videos and think you’re a genuinely great person. I’ve been watching you for a while and you helped me be brave enough to get tatted! Much love from me!! ❤
Now just waiting for Grand Finale 2, Grand Finale 3, Grand Finale 4: Not Grand, Not Final . . . 😂 Looking amazing today, Lauren! Thanks for another good video! 😊
So here’s the thing. I am an artist (though, fair enough - not a tattoo artist nor do I draw tattoo designs), and usually I try to defend artists trying to make a business for themselves in the field as it is hard. But Lindsay… She just has made wrong decisions, tripled down on the wrong decisions, and refused to try to actually take any accountability. She had many chances to at least TRY to recover her career. Many people online would’ve given her at least a chance at recovering her career. But she refused to do any of it. So, in the end. I am not surprised she eventually is shutting down her business. I honestly hope she finds a different route for her career, but this way isn’t it.
Yep- sounds like she's begging for attention and using a "charity" move to garner more sympathy. She's digging her own grave. You're right- if she'd just come out and admitted that she messed up, refunded her customers who she screwed over, stoppped charging exorbitant prices and behaved like a decent human being, she would've been ok. But this? Wrong decision. Most people will see right through all of this. I also wonder what happens if the memorial tattoo process goes over an hour. "Oh! We're a minute over! Would you look at that! That'll be $500 for each minute we go over that first hour. And, if you don't like the memorial tattoo I design, that will be $1,000 for each re-draw. Yep. But the first hour is free! Aren't I such a great person?"
My sister and I went to get tattoos last week… I got a small thing on my hand as well as a bit of a touch up on another tattoo… the consult, deposit and tattoo in total cost me $170 and I got the touch up for free… tattoo gate is just wild…
The whole "plug and baby dying" metaphor was just too much. I dont have a kid but can understand that death of somebody you love is more important than anything, especially money and business...
Found your videos recently and I find you so relaxing to listen to. I love your perspectives and the way you break down thing. Also the make up and nails are flawless
*_"The poison you're taking hurts no one but yourself"_* I'm not sure if you say it exactly like this in English but this is a concept taught in psychology. Some people, when they do something wrong and are blamed for it, they just can't deal with it, let alone apologise and admit that what they did wasn't OK. Instead, what they do is to hurt themselves or threaten to hurt themselves (or worse). By doing this, in their mind, it's like _"Look at what you're making me do to myself because of how you're making me feel!"_ and they expect people to feel bad for them and maybe even apology to them for calling them out. They really believe that people have no other choice but to feel bad for them, even if you try to make them understand that "the poison they're taking _(them hurting themselves)_ is hurting no one but themselves".
I don’t think it’s true crimey vibes at all to think she’ll come back. I replied under my own earlier comment saying I feared just that but I’ll add it to the main comments since you voiced the same concern. Cambridge is a big city, we’re close to Toronto (the capital of Ontario and a huge city) it’d be extremely easy for her to not even move very far and find a spot at a studio under any name except her full legal name and keep going. My own artist doesn’t even go by their full legal name so it’s not odd. She seems to have a lot of allies and supporters left despite all of this going down who’d be willing to give her a shot. She may have closed her own studio and maybe she’ll go quiet for awhile but I would be less than shocked to find her tattooing again under a new social account and nickname. If she gives up the scamming I don’t see there being a lot of reasons for people to track her down or keep tabs on her after a certain amount of time and she’ll sadly just get to move on in her life.
I kind of wonder if this would even be possible for her- not in actuality, but just because of her massive ego. I feel that she would find it demeaning to work for reasonable rates.
She will definitely be coming back. Lindsay doing tattoos until stock runs out is a way of saying "see? I'm not as bad as they want to make me out to be" and those going are gonna be like "wow, she's really being destroyed by a misunderstanding." Everything is coldly calculated. She has people backing her up and probably already other socials in which she will start uploading content, starting "clean" with another name and another strategy to make money a lot by doing little. There is no way anywhere on the round earth that a person so in love with money would permanently cut it off.
Talk about an overreaction. Do we believe she’s going to throw it all away over something that could have been avoided if she just held her hands up and gave a heartfelt apology? Or, is she doing all this for attention and sympathy, knowing she was never going to close up anyway? My guess is that she’ll go underground for a month or two with complete radio silence, then she’ll pop up like the proverbial phoenix. But people have long memories, so she’s going to have to change her ways in order to make her business a success again.
Ok yeah now I’ve watched: I agree with you about her killing off the ‘persona’. I could even see her moving from Cambridge or something and going someplace like Toronto where she could reinvent herself in a larger city.
A months worth of memorial and heart tattoos, plus whatever else she does for those people later (seems like a client fishing expedition to me) will sure make for a nice new online portfolio that can’t be reverse image searched !
Hey Lauren, I tried to post about this a few weeks ago in the facebook groups but the mods wouldn't allow it to be posted saying it was only posted to cause unnecessary drama
I can relate. My mother died at 63 years old never once having apologized or admit she was wrong in any context. At least that I'm aware of. So clearly it's some kind of strange complex. Or maybe just one symptom of sociopathy.
There was a 3 Step Way for Lindsey to end all this drama. Step 1. She privately and genuinely apologizes to all of her past clients who she overcharged Step 2. Lindsey publicly apologizes for her wrongdoing and holds herself accountable and responsible for her own actions. And finally Step 3. Reimburse any and all clients that she overcharged and publicly apologizes, she will never do it again.
“The Narcissist's Prayer That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.” - Dayna Craig
This happened in Canada, the legal system has a high threshold to meet to successfully sue for defamation. You need deep pockets and lots of time to win these cases.
She could've turned this around and used it to her advantage and grow and evolve her business, but instead she preferred running because she can't scam people anymore.
I've mentioned before that she is in the same city I live in. There are quite a few excellent tattoo artists within 30 minutes drive in this region. I know of at least one new shop opened in the last few months with solid talent. The shop I go to is expanding. I get piercings done at another shop that has maybe 6 excellent tattoo artists. About about an hour drive one direction from here is Toronto and there are world class artists in that very large city who are constantly advertising. An hour the other direction is London (ya...Canada steals all the cool city names) and that is a wealthy city with lots of good artists. My gut tells me that she may have been able to keep on moving in an area that had a few artists. In this region, that is not the case, so given all the notoriety she has had, I can't see how she could carry on. My suspicion is lot of the growth is from new people getting their first tattoos and I can't see a new person going to someone they almost certainly know they will get drama with.
day three of BEGGING Lauren to link the red crystal necklace in the description
It’s from Love Rokz - I can’t link it cause the website does “drops” and they sell out in 2.5 seconds 😭 this is their IG, they announce when stuff goes on sale!!
instagram.com/love.rokz?igsh=MTF2NmxsOWExMzJlbQ==
@@treacletattsTHANK YOU SO MUCH 🙏🏻
It's SUCH a great necklace! Also love the red (glass?) heart pendant you had on in a recent video - or is this the same one and I'm remembering weird?
Either way, your style is so fab!
If I’m not mistaken is that the Sacred 🗡 in Blood. Didn’t have a good cross so I used the sword instead (apologies for my crappy depiction)
I’m loving the velvety cloak/jacket!
Proof that some people would rather go scorched earth than just admit they were wrong and move on.
“Admit I’m wrong? Not possible. My ego won’t allow me to be anything but correct because if I did make a mistake I’d have to reflect on everything and I just can’t…”
, lots of people like this probably
Narcissism is the self imposed epidemic of this era
@@EroticInfernonot probably-definitely. If you follow true crime, cults, drama, etc you see dozens of them.
We really need parenting classes in schools, with a therapist running them. Sigh.
I’d love if someone bought her studio and renamed it TattooGate
LOL!!!
That would be hysterical!
It could have those fun Gothic gates that Hot Topic used to have lol.
😂
@@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirlperfect!
An artist local to me got exposed for assaulting his clients, 'quit' the industry for a couple of years, and last year he came back in a new studio a few miles away and under a different name. If he can do that (and his crimes are way worse) then she definitely will.
She'll probably move to another part of Canada and try to open a shop under a different name. Just watch!
Also getting a fake vibe here somethings off
I was thinking the same thing. She’s just going to start again under a different name. Why give up a bag thats working for her
@@BeautyJackedWell and realistically it’s her one job skill lol. She’s not going to go to retail or something.
Same happened near me! An artist was known for being a creep and assaulting people so he moved county’s and changed his name and even started wearing a mask to ‘rebrand’ himself 🤦🏻♀️
This screams “legal scapegoat” if her business is defunct it’s much harder to sue and/or get refunds from her. I see her starting up again in another state in a year or so
That was 10000% my thoughts. That's gotta be why she's also offering stuff for free.
I give it six months at most. She'll open in the same town under a new llc. When you sign paperwork before a tattoo read the damn thing! I guarantee she was tattooed by an llc , NOT the artist. Sounds silly right, but it works everytime. Read your releases ladies and gentlemen.
I feel like this situation shows where Lindsay’s heart always was…Money. Tattooing was her passion when she could make money.
100%
Yup. Plus think about much money she has banked up from scamming her clients for as long as she did. Like how long was she charging these prices before the internet got a hold of tattoo gate? Exactly like if Lindsey was smart she could easily have $50,000 or more saved up from scamming people she can now live on for a few years. Well at least now in the future she’ll have to find other ways to extort money from people.
@legenarylemon She might have a hefty savings account but 50k isn't enough to live on for a few years.
@@legenarylemonhun $50k won’t last 1 year if she’s American & has to support herself in a city. Unless she has people to live with or she can go to the countryside
@@legenarylemonI wish I still believed 50k was enough to live on for multiple years. I make more than that a year and barely scrape by so… yea if she’s got 50k stashed away she has a year at most
Closing her business will also make it more difficult for any of her former clients to file any legal actions against her. If any of them decide to go after money lost, it will be next to impossible. She can hide behind the closed doors.
Makes me want to see some RUclips lawyer like Legal Eagle look at this situation.
@annieworroll4373 I tried to get Attorney Tom to look at it, but he hasn't so far and I am not sure if he will. But they both have subreddits you can make posts to suggest video ideas.
@@annieworroll4373Runkle of the Bailey would be better- he’s Canadian.
@RunkleOfTheBailey thoughts?
@@klaythoring1326yes! Let’s suggest it!
Oh, Lindsay is definitely not gone. She’s just gone I to hiding. That’s what all scammers do. She’ll lay low, and once things have gone quiet and people have either moved on or forgotten, she’ll reopen her studio under a different name and go back to doing what she does best: swindling unsuspecting customers out of thousands of dollars.
Tattoogate was the friends we made along the way
😂😂😂
Normally I don’t comment on RUclips videos but I was tattooed by Lindsay before she opened her own studio. She has always been extremely money hungry and none of what has come out about her is surprising to me. She charged me double what she quoted me and it wasn’t what I wanted. I doubt this will be the end for her, she will no doubt try to wait for this to die down and then reopen somewhere else.
I have the feeling she will just open another store in half a year under another name. She just wants some pitty points on her way out.
I was just about to say this. She'll hide under another name and do the exact same BS.
sounds right
And to get out of legal trouble
I’m a tattooer, and this does seem like she’s making herself out to be some kind of martyr, like she HAD to make this huge sacrifice because people are shunning her, and she doesn’t seem to understand why. And I hate that she’s suddenly trying to appeal to her clients and act like she cares for them so much, when her actions completely go against that. If you cared so much about your clients, you wouldn’t rob them, and you would NEVER let them walk around with a tattoo they were unhappy with. I try my hardest to make sure my clients are happy, and I take their trust very seriously.
All I know is her heart isn’t really into tattooing. If it was, she would be doing everything to make things right. I really hope she just finds a new career, and moves on.
That was my first thought too, she's trying to play the martyr who has to give it all up against her will like she was bullied into that corner. I'm an artist and I did a few tattoos myself when I had a friend who was one and she let me give it a shot. The anxiety I felt that I would make a permanent mistake on someone's skin made me decide to not pursue that route. I don't understand how some of these artists can be so flippant about something that is so expensive to fix. I wasn't even ok that I was hurting them with the needles so I have huge respect for all tattoo artists that can do it properly.
Who else is willing to bet she won't actually donate to charity and instead pocket the money herself?
Would be surprised if she actually did donate it
tbh even if she does donate it all just seems very performative in my eyes. like she's doing all this just so ppl think "oh she's a nice person now" when donating doesn't solve the problems she caused at all. instead she could give the money back to those she scammed, but ofc she's obviously not willing to admit she's wrong in anyway.
Like Amber Heard.
Right? She won't! Also, when she mentionned God in her closing statement, I was like ALRIGHT here we go! I wouldn't be suprised if she pulls the religion card, like so many scammers did, in order to appear like they changed. Or even gain a following in the christian community 🤦🏼♀️ Why do they all act the same way?
Less sketchy to decline tips and direct to her favorite charity instead. Maybe do something cute in the store like make a donation wall or something to show how many people proved they donated, idk.
“People on the internet can be so cruel” Yes, and Lindsay is People.
So, this has actually been crazy to watch unfold, because Lindsey was actually my middle school bully. She would literally wait for me to pass her unit (we lived in the same townhouse complex) and follow me to school everyday harassing me.
Now, had she have matured into a well adjusted kind adult, I would never really judge something based on things they did at the age of thirteen, but I guess she is the same bully she was back then.
I want to believe that shes offering the services she is out of genuine care but... With how she acted towards her clients and how she talked about herself like she was justified in attempting to sue the people who spoke out against her. It feels very much like her "ohh im so kind let me do a memorial tattoo for you, watch me donate to charity with what little pittance the internet demons have left me with" song and dance is just to make herself look like a saint in her final moments.
And for what its worth, i think she has PLENTY of money and supplies left. Something tells me shes shutting down her shop to get out of refunding people :/ you give her a lot of grace in this video but i feel like tattoo artists who mistreat their clients and use them as cash cows genuinely SHOULDNT be in the industry any more.
Agreed. When she said no one wanted Lindsay out of the tattoo industry, I was like, huh? I did, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Good riddance.
100%
She could have just charged reasonable amounts and been transparent with clients instead of going all scorched earth...
Honestly it makes perfect sense for her to close her studio. With the reputation she has no I doubt she would be getting many clients. Even if she made an apology video and even if it was genuine and not just to save face, who in their right mind would go to a tattoo artist that overcharges, scams their clients, and steals art, when you can go to one who didn't do that.
"Taking accountability" and apologizing is worthless when she knew what she was doing and would be apologizing only because she was caught.
Not to be preachy or anything but that comment about pulling the plug on her baby rubbed me the absolute wrong way, like that comparison is fucking wild. She could have just said ‘this business was my baby’ and it would’ve got the point across without being so… gross
Same! I was like wait excuuuuse me? Utterly bizarre and inappropriate metaphor to make.
I agree, was so disgusting to compare her greed ruining her business to that of losing a child.
Completely uncalled for. I hope anyone with experience that's actually close to that, i.e. not this, is doing OK. And she knew what she was doing, too, as it led into the whole memorial tattoo business, as if it's a shared grief.
Same. My best friend has lost a child (at 4yo) and closed a business based around her passion (photography). I'm sure it's easy to guess which one she still grieves and which one is barely a second thought.
i’m glad i’m not the only one who thought that was a ghastly thing to say!
My immediate reaction to seeing this in my feed was “THERE’S MORE?!”
And the way she’s talking about what the shop means to her and having to close it down… like…. girl, you’re the one that destroyed it all by your own hands. Scams like this may make you a lot of money but it’s never gonna be able to last. Sooner or later, you’re inevitably going to get caught and lose everything (except sometimes the money but that’s still a sad little life even if the money is the one thing you get to keep).
Calling it now, in two years we’ll see a video titled “Just when we thought it was over… Tattoo Gate is BACK”
I was betting on it maybe taking 4 years, but seeing how many people are also highly suspicious that she's just rebranding herself I think it'll only take 2 years.
Everyone who says that “dont judge my story” quote usually ends up being crazy like a telenovela sometimes worse. Maybe even dark horror.
Yeah that's right up there with "if you dont support me at my worst, you dont deserve me at my best" for 'this is a psycho' red flags
@@bloodyneptune yes I agree. It’s one thing to have like, undiagnosed/unmedicated mental health issues HOWEVER, these people in Particular seem to KNOW what their behavior does to people
The Blazer with that top looks so pretty i'm crying
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She will just reopen somewhere else under a new name, and continue on. She is running from the reviews right now, refusing to refund or accept responsibility for her previous behaviour, and as soon as the dust settles, she will pop up like a deadly mushroom and start over.
omg thank you for bringing us the tattoo gate tea! Also, girl, you always look so fire 🤩✨
Thank you 😭🩷
I am absolutely appalled and disgusted by the way that she compared closing her business to “pulling the plug on her own baby“. Because as a person who has their own businesses and has also had to make the heart wrenching, devastating decision to take their six month old baby off of life-support, a.k.a. “pull the plug on my own baby“ there is absolutely no real comparison between the two whatsoever
I may be cynical but I wonder if this is a tactic to make her look more sympathetic in the legal cases? Either way I have a feeling she'll resurface at some point!
Btw the moth is looking wonderful, as if it's always been there! 🥰
That moth belongs there
I’ve never clicked so fast
I almost just made the same comment
Eager to find out more. I honestly.stopped tracking this on tiktok just because it got draining 😅. But anytime you talk about it its condensed and excellently explained. Can't wait!
Oh I'm betting she's going to come back later, probably using the "Rise from the Ashes" tag line.
At least this situation has let me know that if any tattoo artist tries to charge for a "design fee" or anything similar to what Lindsey was trying, then I'm running for the hills out of fear of getting scammed. Artists deserve fair pay and all but I'll die before i spend thousands of dollars in any old regular tattoo. All she did was make things harder for tattoo artists honestly
Lauren you're sooo pretty, love the necklace today!
Also, I don't for one second believe that 100% of those tips are getting donated.
Watching RUclips on my tv without my glasses, I can just read titles, but not when the video was posted - I was like “what? Is this a *NEW* tattoos gate video!??”
Immediately clicked to find out and was pleasantly (because it’s Lauren, not that there is more to tattoo gate) surprised that it is in fact a new video !
My best friend (no tattoos) told me (three tattoos) about your channel and I became an instant fan! I've watched all of your Tattoo Gate videos and you did such a wonderful job with covering the story while remaining fair and balanced in your commentary. Thank you for your content!! 🖤🖤
This woman clearly has a huge ego and she is not willing to apologize or take accountability for any of her actions. I can almost guarantee that she'll move to another part of Canada and open a shop in a year or two under a different name and start scamming people in a different area. People like her are always going to find a way to scam people.. she's gross.
I know that in the US, she can write off her time, materials, & space for the “donated” tattoos as a loss to reduce the taxes that she owes. All the tips that are “donated” can also serve as a write off if the donation is over $2,000 (that’s the standard amount the IRS assumes the average person gives).
So even if this doesn’t turn into another scam, I don’t imagine she is simply doing this out of the goodness of her heart. Even if it’s all above board, she gets a big tax incentive.
I can't wait to see this series back in a year or two when she returns.
My thoughts exactly haha
For my first tattoo I did a 20€ deposit and the deposit would be in the final price of the tattoo (in case I couldn't make it the tattoo artist keeps the deposit). After that, I tried to give him a deposit each time but he refused because, and I quote: "Nah you always show up and if you're a little late you always call so you're chill. I know I won't lose money on you. No deposit"
I’ve have the C virus and your videos have been a life saver!!!!
It never ends just keeps getting worse
I appreciate you continuing to cover it, she’s local to me so I’ve maintained a lot of interest in it.
Also, I honestly fear she’ll be taken on at another studio. There’s a lot of less than stellar studios around, a lot of other big cities she could move to and blend in or small towns that don’t have a lot of access to artists. I could see her keeping her head down and still tattooing at a studio she didn’t own if her pride allowed it.
I wasn't expecting her to self-destruct with her business. That's an insane move.
Sounds like she didn't learn anything. I hope she never comes back and scams others again, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did. I want to add because no one else seems to be talking about it, an anti-MLM RUclipsr covered this story and actually snuck into the Launchpad group before it locked down. There, she found Lindsey's response to the drama including admitting to and showing a screen recording of using AI to make the fox tattoo, which is really another form of art theft. It was very shocking.
I’m cynical so I think she is gunna open a new shop somewhere else, maybe restart her social media to get away from her bad name so she can get back to uninterrupted business.
She's offering an hour long free tattoo? An hour?!?!! Isn't this also the lady who took entire 8 hour work days to do partial outlines on people?!?! LOL
The Valentines Axolotl fits so well with the crew!!💞
So excited to hear more about this whole situation.
Hes adorable
What’s the odds she’s “shutting down” her page, will go ghost for 6 months and then come back under a new anon alias with more reasonable prices?
I just wonder if for those memorial tattoos she'd want a consultation first...to charge for that. If it ran over that hour I'd be like "It's an hour, I'm out." And just have it wrapped and walk.
yep, exactly what i thought too! wouldn't suprise me at all if she would try to even scam grieving people or people in need on her way out.
Well this gives me something to listen while making dinner. Thank you for giving us this update! 💜
for the first time ever im actually cozy and have snacks and a beverage. I finally understood the assignment!
Thank you for getting me through shopping, cooking and doing laundry today with your videos!!
Before you got to the end I was like "I would bet a million dollars that in less than 5 years the internet figures out she's operating in a new tattoo studio under a new alias and is still scamming people."
I told my artist about tattoogate while I was sitting for mine. She’s an older artist with a ton of experience (came up underground in Boston, actually part of the group that fought to get tattooing legalized in MA). She was shocked and disgusted.
The phrase "don't judge me by the chapter you walked in on" is a good lesson to us all that no matter what the situation/chapter, we should strive to represent ourselves well.....otherwise we will end up in a situation that has the word "gate" in the title
It’s so wild to even imagine my artist doing that to me. I’m getting a tattoo on the 3rd, and we text like we’ve known each other our entire lives, and give him gifts as well as a cash tip. He’s never charged me for a consultation either -he and my partner know each other from school- so I don’t went to his house and met his family and he was so I to my ideas didn’t make me feel silly. Really good guy. Another artist at his shop went viral on tiktok doing an over the garden wall tattoo and had lil pumpkin ink cups.
I totally agree with you! I feel she is making people feel like awww look, she is nice. Then lay low for a bit, then come back. Because hey, she was nice once 😂.
I think she'll probably try to do the same as James Somerton who tried to reactivate his patreon with changed name etc. If she doesn't come back to tattooing, she'll probably start a different scam
I could listen to you all day long! I LOVE your accent and I love how much it you love our subject matter!
In her position she's doing the right thing for her.
An apology will open her to lawsuits.
she wouldn't get sued if she just refunded people tho
@@edelleaa Not true. Emotional damage, physical damage, additional expenses surrounding interactions with her, are all potential lawsuits.
That's even if she is able to potentially refund everyone she tattooed in the last 7-5 years or so including inflation. (It changes from state to state, so I might remember incorrectly, but criminal case has 7 years and civil 5 years of it still being legally actionable). Moreover, if she admits guild her state can bring up charges of fraud against her, this has nothing to do with refunds.
@@W.Rain. i understand your point but i just think it wouldn't have gotten to that point if she was just a decent person and refunded people on the spot when they asked for it is all im saying.
I am crying 😂. This came up suggested on my TV so I started watching out of interest. I'm a tattooed person and I have been friends with many tattoo people, artists and shops. I also happen to be from Michigan, but have traveled all over. The reason I just laughed at the end of this video is, the whole time I'm watching it, mentally I am saying "lmao I KNOW people who have charged for tattoo apprenticeships, and a LOT at that" 😂😂😂 and when you got the part where she said she was gonna pay 5 grand for one I lost it 😂😂😂 EXACTLY. The scene here is ruthless and ridiculous imo. Although I do have to point out the people that I knew back in the day that were charging, they were charging for THE top rated and most expensive and most popular shop (Mos Eisleys, Grand Rapids, MI). That is the difference. It's a major city. I moved down state a few years ago so I live 30 minutes from South Haven and it's not that big of a town, and honestly I don't know what the clientele are like there. Grand Rapids is huge, and the punk and metal scene is tightknit. You're lucky to get a good apprenticeship you really have to know somebody... Regardless, I've only ever heard of unpaid apprenticeships otherwise 😂 kids, get a machine off amazon, some fake skin or some oranges, and at least just start practicing! At least figure out if you really want to do this forever before dropping 5 g's 😂❤
Thanks for this series Treacle! I love your compassionate attitude and friendly manner you convey in your videos and think you’re a genuinely great person. I’ve been watching you for a while and you helped me be brave enough to get tatted!
Much love from me!! ❤
Now just waiting for Grand Finale 2, Grand Finale 3, Grand Finale 4: Not Grand, Not Final . . . 😂
Looking amazing today, Lauren! Thanks for another good video! 😊
So here’s the thing. I am an artist (though, fair enough - not a tattoo artist nor do I draw tattoo designs), and usually I try to defend artists trying to make a business for themselves in the field as it is hard. But Lindsay… She just has made wrong decisions, tripled down on the wrong decisions, and refused to try to actually take any accountability. She had many chances to at least TRY to recover her career. Many people online would’ve given her at least a chance at recovering her career. But she refused to do any of it. So, in the end. I am not surprised she eventually is shutting down her business. I honestly hope she finds a different route for her career, but this way isn’t it.
Lauren's next video : tattoo gate artist scams people out of charity money and doesnt donate it
Yep- sounds like she's begging for attention and using a "charity" move to garner more sympathy. She's digging her own grave. You're right- if she'd just come out and admitted that she messed up, refunded her customers who she screwed over, stoppped charging exorbitant prices and behaved like a decent human being, she would've been ok. But this? Wrong decision. Most people will see right through all of this. I also wonder what happens if the memorial tattoo process goes over an hour. "Oh! We're a minute over! Would you look at that! That'll be $500 for each minute we go over that first hour. And, if you don't like the memorial tattoo I design, that will be $1,000 for each re-draw. Yep. But the first hour is free! Aren't I such a great person?"
My sister and I went to get tattoos last week… I got a small thing on my hand as well as a bit of a touch up on another tattoo… the consult, deposit and tattoo in total cost me $170 and I got the touch up for free… tattoo gate is just wild…
I also think she’s just trying to get rid of her horrible reputation, and that she’ll be back. Hopefully better than before, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Tattoo Gate actually ended and our favorite tattooed reporter is here to give us the deets and all the receipts!!
The whole "plug and baby dying" metaphor was just too much. I dont have a kid but can understand that death of somebody you love is more important than anything, especially money and business...
Especially when she’s offering memorial tattoos?? Like, read the room, girl!
Found your videos recently and I find you so relaxing to listen to. I love your perspectives and the way you break down thing.
Also the make up and nails are flawless
Thank you so much 🥹🫶🏻
*_"The poison you're taking hurts no one but yourself"_*
I'm not sure if you say it exactly like this in English but this is a concept taught in psychology. Some people, when they do something wrong and are blamed for it, they just can't deal with it, let alone apologise and admit that what they did wasn't OK. Instead, what they do is to hurt themselves or threaten to hurt themselves (or worse). By doing this, in their mind, it's like _"Look at what you're making me do to myself because of how you're making me feel!"_ and they expect people to feel bad for them and maybe even apology to them for calling them out. They really believe that people have no other choice but to feel bad for them, even if you try to make them understand that "the poison they're taking _(them hurting themselves)_ is hurting no one but themselves".
I don’t think it’s true crimey vibes at all to think she’ll come back. I replied under my own earlier comment saying I feared just that but I’ll add it to the main comments since you voiced the same concern. Cambridge is a big city, we’re close to Toronto (the capital of Ontario and a huge city) it’d be extremely easy for her to not even move very far and find a spot at a studio under any name except her full legal name and keep going. My own artist doesn’t even go by their full legal name so it’s not odd. She seems to have a lot of allies and supporters left despite all of this going down who’d be willing to give her a shot. She may have closed her own studio and maybe she’ll go quiet for awhile but I would be less than shocked to find her tattooing again under a new social account and nickname. If she gives up the scamming I don’t see there being a lot of reasons for people to track her down or keep tabs on her after a certain amount of time and she’ll sadly just get to move on in her life.
I kind of wonder if this would even be possible for her- not in actuality, but just because of her massive ego. I feel that she would find it demeaning to work for reasonable rates.
This is definitely not over. The TikToks from people she scammed out of money for taking over an hour will probably start rolling in.
She will definitely be coming back. Lindsay doing tattoos until stock runs out is a way of saying "see? I'm not as bad as they want to make me out to be" and those going are gonna be like "wow, she's really being destroyed by a misunderstanding." Everything is coldly calculated. She has people backing her up and probably already other socials in which she will start uploading content, starting "clean" with another name and another strategy to make money a lot by doing little. There is no way anywhere on the round earth that a person so in love with money would permanently cut it off.
I'm doing laundry while watching this. It seems Tattoo Gate is unending.
I can't help but wonder if anyone has paid any deposits on tattoos that they will no longer be getting, and what she plans on doing with that money.
Talk about an overreaction. Do we believe she’s going to throw it all away over something that could have been avoided if she just held her hands up and gave a heartfelt apology? Or, is she doing all this for attention and sympathy, knowing she was never going to close up anyway? My guess is that she’ll go underground for a month or two with complete radio silence, then she’ll pop up like the proverbial phoenix. But people have long memories, so she’s going to have to change her ways in order to make her business a success again.
Was minding my business watching videos of yours from the ARCHIVES and saw this
Oh god let’s go
Ok yeah now I’ve watched: I agree with you about her killing off the ‘persona’. I could even see her moving from Cambridge or something and going someplace like Toronto where she could reinvent herself in a larger city.
A months worth of memorial and heart tattoos, plus whatever else she does for those people later (seems like a client fishing expedition to me) will sure make for a nice new online portfolio that can’t be reverse image searched !
Hey Lauren, I tried to post about this a few weeks ago in the facebook groups but the mods wouldn't allow it to be posted saying it was only posted to cause unnecessary drama
I can relate. My mother died at 63 years old never once having apologized or admit she was wrong in any context. At least that I'm aware of. So clearly it's some kind of strange complex. Or maybe just one symptom of sociopathy.
*looks at Squishmallows*
*looks at snacks*
*looks at beverages*
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Okay I know you gave the details on the necklace but can we get deets on that tank top or bodysuit you’re wearing? Because it’s 🔥
There was a 3 Step Way for Lindsey to end all this drama.
Step 1. She privately and genuinely apologizes to all of her past clients who she overcharged
Step 2. Lindsey publicly apologizes for her wrongdoing and holds herself accountable and responsible for her own actions.
And finally Step 3. Reimburse any and all clients that she overcharged and publicly apologizes, she will never do it again.
this is not related to the video, but that top brings out the colors in your eyes so well!!!
Spread the good word sister
I love your necklace! I want to get one, may I know where I can add this to my own collection? X
This is off topic, but I am loving your entire outfit in this episode. Slay.
“The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.”
- Dayna Craig
Your outfit is incredible!❤❤❤ I need those affiliate links ASAP 😮
That message from the tattoo artist has “suggested tips” vibes all over it.
This happened in Canada, the legal system has a high threshold to meet to successfully sue for defamation. You need deep pockets and lots of time to win these cases.
She could've turned this around and used it to her advantage and grow and evolve her business, but instead she preferred running because she can't scam people anymore.
Love that finale ❤
Totally agree! She will be back eventually under a new name and start again. Have you got any updates from the daisy love sick saga?
Admitting you’re wrong requires self awareness 😅
Wonder if she'll open up a shop else where in a few months
Thanks for your amazing videos. 🍀💚
Tattoo Gate at this point has more parts than Fast and Furious.
I bet that girl was somehow justifying her price while also living WAY beyond her means
I've mentioned before that she is in the same city I live in. There are quite a few excellent tattoo artists within 30 minutes drive in this region. I know of at least one new shop opened in the last few months with solid talent. The shop I go to is expanding. I get piercings done at another shop that has maybe 6 excellent tattoo artists. About about an hour drive one direction from here is Toronto and there are world class artists in that very large city who are constantly advertising. An hour the other direction is London (ya...Canada steals all the cool city names) and that is a wealthy city with lots of good artists. My gut tells me that she may have been able to keep on moving in an area that had a few artists. In this region, that is not the case, so given all the notoriety she has had, I can't see how she could carry on. My suspicion is lot of the growth is from new people getting their first tattoos and I can't see a new person going to someone they almost certainly know they will get drama with.