Bad News For Boeing...
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Boeing is once more being investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration following fresh concerns centring around incomplete inspections and falsified documents on the 787 Dreamliner being revealed, another blow again to the manufacturer and bad news in the realm of quality.
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Having retired from the aircraft maintenance field, I am absolutely shocked by the revelation of paperwork falsification! That is a criminal indictment and should be looked at as so.
You've hit on the real problem. The guilty are never punished in this country. We're ruled by women, and women-like men. Punishment is now deemed to be 'cruel and unusual'.
the original blowout door whistleblower made a sarcastic quip about it - when you do it in maintenance it's a federal crime, but when you it in manufacturing it's a process escape.
@@john99776what a clown statement
@@john99776 well said my firiend
@@john99776these mistakes were made by men.
if it was a non-us company the faa might have banned all boeings from us airspace by now...
Facts
Facts
a huge history and engineering reputation is preventing such bold move
Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun was paid $32.8 million in 2023 - Calhoun’s total compensation in 2023 was $32.8 million, a 45% increase from the $22.6 million he received for 2022.
The board of directors must be the most stupid people at Boeing!!
Overpaying a feckless CEO for what?!!🤷😤😡
And he's laughing his way to the bank for sure.
CEO compensation is based on corporation profits. Skipping safety checks is a great way to cut costs and increase profits -- in the short term. We all know Calhoun is going to take a golden parachute, the Government is going to bail out Boeing, and a couple years later everyone will forget all about it. This has been business as usual for the past 30 years.
@@rockets4kids The FAA is where questions should really be asked. What on earth did they expect letting Boeing self regulate and sign themselves off?
@@InquisitiveBaldMan The FAA did that as a result of funding cuts. What you should be asking is why FAA funding was cut. It doesn't take much in the way of research to find the ties between Boeing and the and the lawmakers pushing those FAA funding cuts.
Every Single Employee needs to take a CLASS ACTION, along with shareholders, against the Individuals at Boeing that created this FIASCO. Board Members since 2002 and Senior Managers asking the Court to FREEZE their Assets and to Confiscate their Passports. This is STUPID and CORRUPT. This is NOT about Boeing v Airbus this is Boeing Undermining the whole Industry and Individuals need to be Charge, Tried and when Convincted Prison and made to hand over ALL assets including pension funds.
Increased scrutiny = good news. Boeing, take your medicine it will make you stronger.
Absolutely. It is just a shame that this could develop in the wrong direction in the first place.
If they are still here after.
Boeing management, take your prison time, it will make the company stronger.
As long as accountants run production units of the plane maker, the downward spiral will continue. Cutting costs decisions by people who do not understand aircraft production is dooming Boeing. The people in charge will never recognize this and therefore the company will fail first. After it fails, executives will be quoted saying:" Oh yeah, wish someone told us years ago!" Sorry but there can be only one result, and it is failure.
6:40 The Airbus 320neo is a good argument, but it forgets a major issue which Boeing had: the 787 Dreamliner delays and major issues.
Moreover, as presented on this particular video, still now we are finding issues on the 787 Dreamliner.
Hence, Boeing issues are from within - and not from external forces.
Therefore, the required changes are much centered around company culture, better processes, and overall focus on safety.
This can only be changed with a major change in upper management, but also on its human capital.
Boeing is screwing itself !
You'll find out it won't be screwing itself that hard the go bankrupt
It's the 100th video of DJ's Aviation about Boeing Bad News 🗞️😂
Oooooh Chicken Little, the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!! Hahahaha! BUT, there is "Great News" from Airbus--------------------
Ye Boeing faced only bad news for almost 6 years
@@rileysteve Look up the two words: "jingoism" and "xenophobia." Then look in the mirror.
We need to celebrate that milestone 🥳💯
@@Hans-gb4mv of course 🎉🎊
Not to include the 3 mysterious deaths of Boeing whistle blowers.
Three?! I thought it was 2!
I wish Boeing never baught Mcdonald ... I mean McDonnell Douglas
I agree. It’s nearly destroyed Boeing. BUT the Board have been totally negligent.
McDac bought Boeing with Boeing's money.
The decline of boeing started long before McDonnell.
YES do NOT insult Ronnie!
They wanted to eliminate the commercial rival and get the military business. The military part is doing well, while the Boeing commercial is in the toilet. They had 30 years to figure this out, and it's their own fault they destroyed their brand.
Last month Boeing claimed the 787 was OK and there were no issues with the way some parts of the fuselage were put together after a whistle-blower raised concerns about it. Now Boeing itself has raised concerns about how the wings were joined to the fuselage shouldn't that be revisited?
I am fine with them being inspected and continuous inspections at a strict rate until the PROCESSES are correct. Saying culture is stupid, I fly the world and most cultures don’t change.
Change the processes and enforce them with strict oversight and people will change. We did this in the military and by time we found all the cracks and bad actors, we started winning awards, stress changed and production multiplied.
Won’t happen. They care too much about $$$. Any kind of good quality control takes time and will slow down production.
That is a tall order for a country that panders to the "victims" in its "culture".
Boeing pretty much matches the state of America these days.
Neverending Boeingstory
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST WORK TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME?!!!!! WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE ALL THESE REINSPECTIONS?!!!!!
Because management does not understand quality management.
Shtonks
Paying execs 100s of millions... how much quality could that buy?
Unfortunately, that goes back to when Jack Welch retired as CEO of GE. When several executives lost out to Jeff Immelt, it started bidding wars for those GE executives to leave.
Look at Tesla. Elon Musk wants a pay package in the billions, and the shareholders will rubber stamp his demands. The auto-pilot system has issues. The Cyber Truck is years behind. None of the other models have gotten a major revamp.
2024 will be another horrific year for Boeing. After 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023...and 2025 won't be easy either...
How will you know if next year will be worse too? Every year is a horrific one
What a load of you know what
@@nickolliver3021 you replied....got it
@@rod_at_adelaide5766 I assume you are making a comment about the Boeing Board?
I was on that Alaskan Airlines flight 1282 on January 5th. I thought a terrorist bombed the plane. I was scared to death and have serious PTSD now.
When is there NOT bad news for Boeing ?
Back in the 1970's I guess, way before I even existed.
If you watch the news, conditioning you to give up on air travel- always.
This is the result when you hire former GE executives. They are cost cutters with their Six Sigma Black Belt obsession. They are only interested in cost savings at all costs and improved stock prices. Just look what happened recently at GE!
Well, I'd say that the focus on profits after the MD merger really backfired on them. The chickens came home to roost.
The difficulty is stopping the downward spiral. What strikes you is the number of times the problems surface, it makes me wonder what problems are lurking out there in existing airline fleets.
Wings falling off... Just wait.
Windows coming off. As well
The industry is a total mess and spiral
@@nickolliver3021
Only Boeing
Protected by heavy lobbing in Congress
@@ricky1231 sure
I have to say Boeing's bad quality gives COMAC a good chance to sell its product in chinese market(Airbus + Comac), Chinese market is huge market just behind US market
Yes, and the COMAC market will expand to China's friends in the near future. Let the COMAC fly with no major issues for 5 years, then it will be tempt some airlines to fly it, especially those with no major routes over water.
Companies are losing money, delayed deliveries are changing quite alot in the aviation market, employment is being affected, people are getting laid off, hiring is not being conducted. Just because Boeing decided to cut corners. I hope they fix themselves soon as it’s affecting millions of people worldwide
Some would argue that the neo problem for Boeing comes from their corporate culture of maximizing stock profits, leading them to not develop new planes or even innovate on the older ones.
It never make sense from an investment point of view to develop new planes. Corporations don't produce wealth, they extract it.
Successive CEO's receiving multimillion dollar remuneration to oversee lies over probably several decades is appalling
Nothing good comes from merging with your rivals never. They should have left McDonnel Douglas alone.
I bet Lockheed wish they were still producing commercial aircraft.
The legendary L1011! Yes!
@@morinkhuur4945yep with GE90s 😁
Lockheed must come back!!!!
Why would lockheed waste their time with commercial aviation ?
@@testpilotmafia862 The profit motive. Embraer are doing well at present,
Just like Ford & Tesla. Boeing quality is like a bad joke. Putting people's lifes in grave danger
When I see another boeing, I'll avoid it. I'm tired of hearing about this garbage company.
Clunky Nick Oliver is crying harder than ever.
Great company with garbage management.
Go to airbus and say I won't fly on theirs either. I'm tired of hearing "ill avoid it"
@@nickolliver3021 no one is asking for your opinion, so stop crying perhaps? Or you can quit. Bye?
@nickolliver3021 Airbus is here to stay, boeing will be out of business soon.
Boeing is the worst and most unethical aircraft manufacturer the world has ever seen.
Definitely it is positive change - also seen by the world, per se.
777 -8 and -9 has faulty design engine pylons (stronger engines), when Boeing officials has been notified they responded between themselves that, if anything would happen, they will causes engine manufactures, not Boeing....
Yes at last decade Boeing CEO's did NOT looked at the safety as they used to.....
For them it was only statistic graphs that matter w/ greed.....
AI design of the 777 wing is the total failure initially at the time wing was designed it was claimed that it will last 70k h, but w/ fatigue tests they reduced to 35k and than to 33k h's.
Having this practical feedback they applied AI in designing 787, w/ sensors in the composite structure as fatigue "feedback" (not tested in real life).....
What is cheering that safety design coefficient is higher on Boeing vs Airbus....
Nothing will change at Boeing until the entire senior management and the executive board are fired and are replaced by engineers.
Wow Boeing.Great Video And Info
Still anything left for Bad news for Boeing?
that's up to boeing
@@xchomphk.9788or FAA
Boeing: hold my beer...
Falsifying records? FFS FLY AIRBUS
If a 737Max or a 787 crashes Boeing will be in trouble, even if it eventually turns out to be pilot error
They ll turn the world upside down to put it on the pilot...guaranteed.
Sigh. This just adds further reason to CHECK the aircraft type when booking your flights. Airbus: YES YES YES. Boeing...well, 757, 767, 777 yes, 737NG yes, 737 Max..NO, now 787...probably not.
Shame though. Really like the 787.
The 787 is fine. The faa shouldn't put any aircraft in service that had problems
@@nickolliver3021 Shouldn't ......but they did, and not for the first time either
@@tomstravels520 and? What do ypu want me to do about that. Go back in time to make sure they weren't 🙄
Is it ever gonna end?
Boeing will have to be taken over by a different entity, another firm or nationalized.
@@buckshot6481I am upset and displeased at the utter lack of moral human integrity of Boeing!!! 😤
@@devonc8411agreed
How is Boeing still allowed to self certify anything? Every Boeing employee, from the CEO to the janitors, needs an FAA inspector shadowing them 1 on 1 at work and verifying every single task. If that grinds production to a near halt and they can only build 1 plane a month, so be it. They made their own bed.
Oh no…. Anyways.
Boeing should get back to the basics of plane manufacturing and put safety first. The profits will come from a sale of a product which is safe.
Thanks for the update Dj!!
I have flown on the dreamliner a few times and I have been comfortable with the plane. However, with each passing issue with Boeing I am increasingly more worried to book Boeing serviced flights; particularly the Max and now sadly the 787. The comment that Boeing advised whatever brings no comfort. Sadly I do not trust Boeing's approach to safety.
until engineering is running production, Boeing will be a danger to passengers, not very difficult
So when will the FAA put out in airworthiness directive regarding this to all airlines who fly the 787s?
A comment on another blog described Boeing as time serving in contrast with Space X being like grad school, bored vs excited and wanting to get into the next project. I hope Boeing gets that grad school feel back.
Bean counters ruined Boeing. Give Boeing back to the engineers.. Reconsolidate manufacturing and management to the way it was…That is their only hope…Take Tim Clark’s advice…
A pity SC plant not unionized...
Workers would actually care about quality, instead of going thru the motions..
Love to find out the employee turnover ratio at the SC plant..
As a Union member being in one doesn't mean we all suddenly care about quality. Some people slack off more because they have a union shield to hide behind.
Holy crap what a lie. Union employees are the biggest care-less bots who mostly care about taking it to ‘the suits’ and sleeping during working hours in their little hideaway spots. I have so many family members and friends in Unions and they are just professional work avoidance pros. I hear all their stories. GM, Ford, Cummings, former Delco… you name it. They all habe stories about how they always find new ways to do less, or screw with the companies and products they work for.
@MD
Agreed , at least you'd have some sort of job security' with a Union.
Who knows what their turnover rate is at the SC plant..
Interesting comment. I was just thinking along similar lines. How about a total worker's takeover? I have no idea if such a thing is even possible!
It's not a phone or a washing machine or even a car... It's a plane that costs $200+ Million per unit and carries 280 Humans and is held in the air at 500MPH with bolts and screws and glue. If you didn't do it right, that's what could be the casualty.
I have to politely disagree with you on one point: There is no issue with _making_ a profit, but there absolutely is a problem with _focussing_ on profit. That just accelerates inflation and destroys society in the long run. We're at a point where we can't afford to ignore the effects on the national economy by decisions made in the business economy. I'm not a leftie socialist by any means, but let's put it this way: Greed is _not_ good in the long run, as it causes your expenses to explode further down the road and slowy but steadily diminishes the amout of paying customers who can _afford_ your products/services. We've essentially choked the economy to death in the last decades. (No, lefties, raising the minimum wages doesn't help, that just raises costs even further and makes the problem _worse.)_
"Integrity of Boeing planes"?
How about Integrity of Boeing as a Business.
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going
Dont fly. Just simple
If it is Boeing, I am not going either, just book Airbus flights.
@@devonc8411 why book airbus flight? Perhaps no one should as they have problems too
It's weird that the McDonnell Douglas culture took over at Boeing. Usually, the culture of the acquiring company spreads. One of my local grocery chains was bought out by Kroger, and the stores have been Krogerfied---which is not good.
That said, Boeing needs to hire away a senior executive from Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, RTX, or General Dynamics to be CEO, and allow him or her to replace the senior leadership.
There's a comment here somewhere (I can't be bothered to scroll down to find it). But the guy mentioned about staff turnover and people just going through the motions. I don't know how old the footage is that goes with this video, but if you ask me, and no disrepect, it looks like half the people on the assembly line in that Boeing plant had just been picked off the street. Baggy jeans and tee shirts, baseball caps! Give the guys a uniform like us at Airbus. Then sometimes that's when a little pride comes in and you do things to help each other. Plus, we are always on training programs and enhancing our skills as engineers.
Those Boeing airplanes should start identifying as Airbus airplanes to stop this discrimination 😂
Hahahahaha this joke is evil in so many ways ❤
Oh for heaven's sake, Boeing is just appalling and should be shut down.
Stopping kids from saying first
That B roll was a Boeing thirst trap
Hawaiian Airlines has great maintenance services for all aircraft types including 2 aircraft are still parked (the last time I was there last year). I’m also aware the 787s were kinda effective for inspections. Like what you said about “every single part can’t be checked” That makes sense now because Boeing is under scrutiny from 2 whistleblowers who have anxiety and fear. Look I understand it’s a long way from this point but if this happens again they’re going to cancel the deliveries for the 777x and Max 10 to 2027-29.
AS IT ALL STANDS TODAY,
BOEING, ... BOEING, ...G O N E !!!
or,
A VERY BIG ASK !!!
1. Return to the previous Washington State, Labour arrangements, Comms between the Boeing Execs and the down the line Mechanics, Supervisors etc.,ought to brought back.
"Boeing before was a FAMILY."
2. FOCUS on ALL that is NEEDED TO GET THESE ALL BACK !
3. Downsize if you must, save money !
4. Corporate Headquarters back in Washington like before,
5. Other manufacturing sites MUST RETAIN THE OLD 'Boeing Way of Quality & Safety !
Only then might begin, the slow developing of TRUST in BOEING.
:(
Where Boeing gone wrong! Instead of having aeronautical engineer in charge they went outside. For leadership that value profit over safety😢😢😢
It is even in Boeing's interest that the allegations are investigated by the whistleblower. This is the only way to reassure customers and passengers on the planes. In the best-case scenario, which I hope, the exams will show nothing. If, however, the audits do find sloppiness and safety problems, it will certainly be even tighter economically for the civil aviation sector of boeing. The image will suffer even more and stock prices...
Boeing whistle blowers seem to have some serious health issues, can't be that many left.
Why does this seem like a Monty Python script over and over
Wow! WINGS can potentially fall 9ff these planes!
I am a semi-regular traveler, but short distances. (One hour, ir do.) Now. I have to specifically look for flights either Airbus planes. Shaking my head.
It's certainly a better deal for Boeing, but it left everything in the bag, the most it got right on some things, but it also didn't leave aside tradition.✈️
lol at this point, I think it’s time for a channel rename and rebranding for strictly Boeing news 😂
When the priority changed to making money rather than making Aeroplanes. If you make good Aeroplanes you will make money guaranteed, However when the focus changes to just making money, its all down hill from there.
Boeing are not the only company in the world guilty of this, When accountants prevail this is what you get, Keep a good balance of both, with a CEO who has a good grounding in Engineering & Accounting
True yes
Bye, Boeing
Bye airbus
So Sainnt, otherwise known as Timi Ayotunde, has cancelled his controversial comment about the FAA being equally as responsible as Boeing, because he was pretty overwhelmed with the response, amost all against. 25 when I last noted. Next time he comments, I shall ask whether he intends to delete again, should his ego get hurt, and cancel everyone else's efforts and free speech as well.............
Extremely informative
root cause was taking on MD.. now Boeing has become MD with its focus on profits and share price over quality. it will be very difficult to recover.
It didn't start with the NEO, although, you're correct to say that it sent Boeing scrambling. It really started with the 787. Everyone remebers the fake rollout on 7/8/07. The plane was not anywhere close to ready, the whole thing was a sham. They tried to change up the whole model to save money and it failed miserably. The only question we have today is, "Will Boeing ever make a dime on the 787"? With development costs speculated in the $30-$50B range, it's doubtful.
I'm American and I love Boeing, but man so many questionable decisions the last 20 years. They can't go on like this forever, stubbing their toes every time we turn around. At some point another manufacturer will arise and take their place if they don't get their house in order.
It is already happening. Airbus is number 1
Nah, your government will use your tax dollars to keep Boeing afloat. Why do things right if government will bail you out?
This may sound ridiculous, though it might be costly and seem impossible, Boeing needs to press the rewind button to 1997 and get rid of MD. Then move their corporate offices back to Seattle. Maybe the merger looked good on paper, but it was like mixing oil and water. It doesn't work nor will it ever work.
Wall Street types should not lead this company - it needs dedicated engineers to lead the company.
Boeing’s HQ should move back to Seattle and all the Board members should be fired and replaced.
As you mentioned, too much focus on stock value and profits
Did this all start when they opened the South Carolina facility????
So at this point we’re just waiting for planes to start falling apart?😮😮😮 but Calhoun get his paycheck till he steps down? 😢😢😢
FBI should open permanent office at Boeing, that would save some taxpayers money in long run.
Detectives would have much less travelling expanses, since Boeing is providing them work untill they retire😃
The McDonnell Douglas merger has negatively affected the culture of engineering excellence. Period! Get rid of the bean counters and put engineers back in charge. Either buy back Spirit in Kansas or seize the 737 jigs and get someone else to build them or set another plant nearby, North of Seattle perhaps in the Fraser valley in Canada an hour train ride from Everett.
7:47 should that not be " they were " Touch of irony when you at the time stamp...Now thats a proper boeing..
My advise to Boeing is go back the way is was running...successfully. Before the merger. And take main office from Chicago and bring it back to Seattle.
Will Somebody with some integrity please take over this company. Should have never merged with douglas
FAA - Criminal indictment is disgusting anyway, especially when a " plane " needs SECURITY & SAFETY FIRST and foremost...
If boeing employees lied and cut corners you can be guaranteed it was at the direction of boeing management
I suspect that as well.If you are going to get caught,maybe pretend to be innocent?
To undo the miss falls of the McDonald Douglas management style at Boeing, will take forever and a day, to be seen if Boeing will still be relevant by then.
Not just the current management, but all since the merger should be prosecuted to the ground. They destroyed what was once the market leader and safety reference.
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When the main focus in a high tech company is on the stock market, the company will begin to fall.
It will take years to correct the failure done by the leadership of Boeing.
Never underestimate greed!
Yes exactly
This were one Have to think they are NOT too big to fail!!!! It’s a dumpster fire!!!
Does the absorption of McDonnell Douglas by Boeing really the cause for its poor quality standards? Were the McDonnell Douglas aircraft badly built, were their production standards and quality controls the worse? There must be another explanation
Every Boeing fan boy is blaming McDonnell Douglas, but most mega corporations were stripping themselves bare to reward Wallstreet early in the 90's and have been ever since. The merger took place in 1996 and that's a long time to not clean house. So it's boeings fault either way.
Where did the "US of BS" go wrong? Everywhere one looks!
They've given control to the bean counters. Now they're trying to go cheap on the safety of the workers and push out the onsite fire fighters and emergency responders. They'll never learn...smfh
Or the faa should have done this as their inspection to deliver 787s not now
The boeing decline started long before McDonnell.
Boeing Airplanes have to be safe! Very simple.
Does the FAA still let Beoing inspect themselves or does the FAA have agents now that inspect and verify?
If it is Boeing, I am not going.
Then don't fly
@@nickolliver3021You could just fly Airbus.
@@devonc8411 airbus have problems too
If it is Boeing, I'd prefer a 25 year old 777 or a 35 year old 767, or a 737NG. I was hoping to get a 767-400 when I flew to Brazil on DL a couple of months ago but it was an A333.
@@JimBronsonstill Airbus is much better than Boeing nowadays
another Boeing L
Getting to the point that I start requesting my company to not fly on Boeing planes
Good choice . Especially on 737MAX
MCAS is the hole meaning a lot at Boeing management......
In addition to 737 and 787 problems, Boeing also has problems with it's Starliner spacecraft. I think Boeing has lost it's edge and will probably fail within the next five years. Sadly.
Boeing has failed itself. So many drastic mistakes has stripped Boeing of its brand name