I Asked Random Mormons & Christians "What Is Eternal Life?"
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2023
- I took to the streets to ask both Latter-day Saints (Mormons) & Evangelical Christians about their definition of eternal life. Here's what they said.
Understanding a Biblical definition of "eternal life" is critically important. Jesus died so that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. If Jesus died for it, we should take it pretty seriously! I found it really interesting what was most emphasized between the Evangelical and LDS positions.
"And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent" (John 17:3).
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I thought it was also pretty interesting how Latter-day Saints tended to have more variation in their definition of eternal life than Evangelicals. It's one difficulty I've often experienced when speaking with my LDS friends - they sometimes operate with totally different definitions of eternal life! For some people, it's continued eternal existence. For others, it's Exaltation in Celestial Glory. Was looking into that a bit, and found this quote from past LDS Prophet Spencer Kimball - "Immortality has been accomplished by the Savior’s sacrifice. Eternal life hangs in the balance awaiting the works of men.”
If you're interested to learn more about our view of Mormonism's emphasis on eternal family, check out this video: ruclips.net/video/x64nb6DuDfw/видео.html
DUDE please keep making these. It's so good in comparing the differences between "mormonese" and the orthodox understanding of the theological terms and phrases
The LDS talk about spending this time with family and working to get a better relationship with God. It seems they think you will still be working for your salvation even once you've arrived. Salvation is the finished work of Christ. We don't work for our salvation but work because of it. They "make" more babies so they will have more children in heaven with them. So family seems to be a top priority of what eternal life meant to many of those who spoke. Where Evangelicals see God and Jesus Christ the reason for our salvation as the major theme of what eternal life means to them.
@@seekingtruthinallthings3969"God is a spirit, so he won't be there". Well, God is omni-present so you can't say He won't' be there. In the O.T. we see that while He was everywhere He manifested Himself when He spoke to Moses at the burning bush and the tabernacle. The scripture says He dwells in unapproachable light (that is we can't approach now) and His light lights heaven. He will be more present in us more than we can know here. Steven saw a manifestation of Him and the Son (in flesh) beside Him (though we know the Spirit is everywhere). "Will you sit and talk to Jesus all day?" Since He is infinitely wonderful, we will be infinitely be in wonder of Him. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit spent eternity with only each other and never needed anything else and that hasn't changed.
Funny, how people can only project their problems on to God and who they think He is.
@@seekingtruthinallthings3969 Have you read the Bible? If you have, you should know that Paul said (Edit: to the Christians in Corinth) to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord in 2 Cor. 5:8. So where is Paul and what state is he in? He is absent from the body and present with the Lord. He is in spirit form and he sees other spirits with spiritual eyes. However, with God it is different and I can only speak what scripture has revealed. What exactly Steven saw we cannot say for sure.
@@seekingtruthinallthings3969 Tell me, according to 2 Cor. 1:1 who is Paul talking to? Christians on non-Christians?
"That also means most people will not be present with the Lord after they die (all who believe wrong). There is no hope in that."
Think about it, if everyone were going to heaven then Jesus would not give the warnings He did and He would not ask us to go into all the world and preach the gospel.
Last night after I read your message, I saw a video of a student here in Taiwan ending his life. Tonight, my church family will be going to share the gospel in the streets near where it happened to share the hope that we have.
Tell me, according to Matt. 7:13,14 more will go to heaven or hell?
Tell me, according to Rev. 7:9 how many will be in heaven and from where?
Tell me, according to 1 Pet. 1:3 what is our hope in?
..so reassuring that as Christians we do know because God has told us in His Word, simply, beautifully, assuredly. Hallelujah!
Pray for all mormons to come to God, His Word, His Truth
Eternal life is being reunited in the highest order of celestial kingdom with the heavenly father ! Amen 🙏
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Great idea these comparisons need to be made.
Great video for learning how to listen beyond the surface similarities to hear the hugely important differences!
John 17:3 says it all. Heaven is heaven because of Jesus.
Rev. 14:10 Hell will be hell because of man rebelling against God and Jesus is there pouring out His wrath (see next statement).
The difference is this. The ones in heaven are in His favorable presence, the ones in hell are in His wrathful presence.
And the way we truly do know God, is when we love, for those who do not love, do not know God. And when we take Pauls words into account, to know God does neither mean to do good works, to have faith, to know all things, to have the gifts of the spirit.. and so I think that certainly the answers may differ amongst LDS, but I still think that those who truly understand selfless love, and live that love, may know God more than people that may know all "about God".. Giving theological correct answers is good when people can give them, but they are not essential to know God, and with that, to have eternal life.
Reminds me of Jeffrey R Holland saying that heaven wouldn’t be heaven if his wife weren’t there with him.
Precisely! It’s only the evangelical god that is saddistic and rips families apart. Not one I’d be fond of worshipping.
Jeffrey idolizes his wife and ignores Jesus. Did his wife suffer the wrath of the Father while on a cross?
No, rather heaven wouldn't be heaven if Jesus weren't there.
Tell me, according to the Bible who did Jesus say is our true family?
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If i was asked when I was LDS.
Was life after life here on earth.
Where you are now in a perfect body with your family forever. And the more righteous you are, the higher the glory you get.
If your a really righteous you become a god. Also the if you are not righteous you can still be with your more righteous family member but they have to come see you since you can not go to their kingdom.
Also in the lower kingdom you just sing glory to god
Do you have more videos like these?
Not yet - currently editing some more of them.
Eternal Life is the opportunity to raise a family, and leave this world a better place. For our children and their children. That is the ONE true path to life after death. We certainly don't deserve a 2nd.
Thanks for your reply@@seekingtruthinallthings3969 I do not believe in God.
@@seekingtruthinallthings3969 You are not alone on the ECT (eternal conscious torture) list. Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Progressive Christians and even non believers. Fill in the blank. All we can do is seek the truth. But we cannot find truth through faith.
@@seekingtruthinallthings3969 Rev. 21:8
"But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,
and murderers,
and sexual immoral,
and sorcerers,
and idolaters,
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burns with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death."
Tell me, according to this passage who deserves eternal torment?
Keep in mind that these are not mere one time actions but the condition of the heart in which one is in continual rebellion to God.
Existence ad infinitum
You exist?
That, but times infinitum.
That means more than infinite.
If you behaved and did as you were asked you also get to spend it with God-in-Trinity.
Otherwise? Black Hole Sun? WONT YOU COME and taaake awaaay the Haaate.
So sorry, everyone is eternal.
The life part is relative.
To quote the one LDS guy, I don’t think eternity without progression would be boring, I believe eternity without progression would be pointless. Unless God has major self-esteem issues, I don’t think he wants nor cares that we worship him for eternity. What would glorify him forever is eternal progression.
It’s laughable to think that God would create the family system here on earth, just to take it away in eternity. I feel for those of you who have such a myopic view of what eternal life is capable of. It can be so much more beautiful than hanging out and playing hacky sack with Jesus for eternity.
To say that God would be glorified by eternal progression is to undermine His glory presently, because if He is progressing then He is not as glorious as He can be. The God of the Bible is a maximally great being devoid of any areas for improvement.
@@BNichols021 but that doesn’t me *we* can’t progress. Even Jesus, while on earth, was progressing, according to the Bible.
@@BNichols021God is way more infinite than he is maximum
@@BNichols021 and btw, you are probably thinking of the God of Augustine, not the God of the Bible
In Christianity you could say we progress in theosis, but not in the sense of the Mormon view of becoming a new god and essentially doing what the holy trinity does.