Cool. Can’t disagree with your thoughts! My only thought in relation to this content is that YES folk do need less expensive alternatives to big brands and their big prices.
Front wheels are faster than rear wheels 🤣. Joking aside, there's something very cool about building up an amazing bike, using an old frame and a bunch of cheaper Chinese components. Nice one!
I think the way to go is with older framesets that are "out of fashion". I have a 2012 framset from a bike that was £7k new - got it for £400 in 2017 because it was a externally routed frame. I suspect it would go for even less today given how everyone wants disc brakes. Same thing with wheels and finishing kit. I got a pair of Mavic Ksyrium SLEs for next to nothing because they weren't deep dish, Sworks Carbon Stem and Handlebars because it had no internal routing for cables (again) etc. etc. The only new thing I bought new was a 6800 ultregra groupset, and that was half off because 8000 was just out. I spent about £1.2k all things considered for a close to top-end spec bike.
I think you’re right, my only reservation is most of those frames are rim brakes. I’m definitely more of a disc brake fanboy. Sound like you built yourself a lovely bike!
@@DaveNoakes Finally got around to putting on the Wheeltop groupset today - alongside fresh bar tape and new cables - has it feeling like a new bike again. (researching how to navigate wheeltop's shitty app is also how I discovered your channel!)
I honestly think 8kg is a respectable weight all things considered. Sure, we'd all love a top end 5kg superbike, but too many people get fixated on the whole weight thing when it's not that important unless you're a pro.
If possible, it would be great to get your thoughts (reviews) on more endurance oriented or "normal people" bikes. Many of the products you cover lean towards _smashy_ race-style riding (long & low frames, deep section wheels, etc.). Thx!
8 kg is fine. I figure tires matter more than frames for comfort, assuming fit is ok. Those wheels seem quite a bit like my Elite 50D wheels, which I like a lot. But the ceramic bearings may not be as durable as I'd like. I run 30 mm tires. Very comfy on my lush and zoomy Yoeleo R12.
You’re definitely right about the tyres, I could easily shed some weight there, I also have old powertap power pedals which are on the weighty side. Are ceramic bearing less durable?
@DaveNoakes I'm not an expert on bearings but I had a set on my rear wheels go bad so quickly that Elite replaced them for free except for a "shipping fee" ( which probably also covered their costs too). I think there's a Hamnbini video on this. But I still really like the wheels.
I ride a £500 Vitus zenium tiagra with a set of prime 56 wheels . The bikes £800 and it’s fantastic, don’t go out spending thousands on tech you don’t need
8kg bike is not that bad for an aero one. Had a 7.2kg bike that I handpicked the parts and it was mix of used and brand new parts, plus alloy frame, I miss that bike. Annoying thing is I’m not confident that it would last under my weight. 😅
I’m happy with 8kg I could probably get it down a bit but honestly I’m not too fussed. Sounds like you had a nice bike there. What did you get to replace it?
Cool. Can’t disagree with your thoughts! My only thought in relation to this content is that YES folk do need less expensive alternatives to big brands and their big prices.
Front wheels are faster than rear wheels 🤣. Joking aside, there's something very cool about building up an amazing bike, using an old frame and a bunch of cheaper Chinese components. Nice one!
Thanks Dave...it's all good !
Thank you 🙏🏽
I think the way to go is with older framesets that are "out of fashion". I have a 2012 framset from a bike that was £7k new - got it for £400 in 2017 because it was a externally routed frame. I suspect it would go for even less today given how everyone wants disc brakes.
Same thing with wheels and finishing kit. I got a pair of Mavic Ksyrium SLEs for next to nothing because they weren't deep dish, Sworks Carbon Stem and Handlebars because it had no internal routing for cables (again) etc. etc. The only new thing I bought new was a 6800 ultregra groupset, and that was half off because 8000 was just out.
I spent about £1.2k all things considered for a close to top-end spec bike.
I think you’re right, my only reservation is most of those frames are rim brakes. I’m definitely more of a disc brake fanboy. Sound like you built yourself a lovely bike!
@@DaveNoakes Finally got around to putting on the Wheeltop groupset today - alongside fresh bar tape and new cables - has it feeling like a new bike again. (researching how to navigate wheeltop's shitty app is also how I discovered your channel!)
Got a mention on the Nero Show this week ! 👍
Nice!!! Now i am waiting for the new Wheeltop fine tuning video. Cheers!
I honestly think 8kg is a respectable weight all things considered. Sure, we'd all love a top end 5kg superbike, but too many people get fixated on the whole weight thing when it's not that important unless you're a pro.
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So true!
That’s truth weight is for hill climbing
Don't know what you're doing but I'm one cafe ride win away from being called up by Team Visa /s
@@cjohnson3836 I keep having to turn them down 😂
If possible, it would be great to get your thoughts (reviews) on more endurance oriented or "normal people" bikes. Many of the products you cover lean towards _smashy_ race-style riding (long & low frames, deep section wheels, etc.). Thx!
I think he should have a go on my rusty old garage bike 😂
I’m actually talking to Marin about this. 👊🏼
@@DaveNoakes excellent - thanks Dave
8 kg is fine. I figure tires matter more than frames for comfort, assuming fit is ok. Those wheels seem quite a bit like my Elite 50D wheels, which I like a lot. But the ceramic bearings may not be as durable as I'd like. I run 30 mm tires. Very comfy on my lush and zoomy Yoeleo R12.
You’re definitely right about the tyres, I could easily shed some weight there, I also have old powertap power pedals which are on the weighty side. Are ceramic bearing less durable?
@DaveNoakes I'm not an expert on bearings but I had a set on my rear wheels go bad so quickly that Elite replaced them for free except for a "shipping fee" ( which probably also covered their costs too). I think there's a Hamnbini video on this. But I still really like the wheels.
I ride a £500 Vitus zenium tiagra with a set of prime 56 wheels . The bikes £800 and it’s fantastic, don’t go out spending thousands on tech you don’t need
Lets not get an MX5, lets get a caravan 🤩🚐
You and your bloody caravan 😂😂😂
Carry on caravaning ❤
8kg bike is not that bad for an aero one.
Had a 7.2kg bike that I handpicked the parts and it was mix of used and brand new parts, plus alloy frame, I miss that bike. Annoying thing is I’m not confident that it would last under my weight. 😅
I’m happy with 8kg I could probably get it down a bit but honestly I’m not too fussed. Sounds like you had a nice bike there. What did you get to replace it?
@@DaveNoakes found an old Titanium mtb from the late 90’s, the tubing was skinny enough to that it could pass as a dropbar convert. 😅
Sell Yeoleo... buy Miata... I like your thinking...
I think it’s a really good idea