You’re getting a gun pointed at you by Ellie, you know, the same Ellie that said they would find and kill every last one of them? She’s Already done it multiple times before this, remember???
@@mtn123because they know that in game apparently, you get a gun pointed at you in real life and you think “that’s Charles mason the same Charles mason that smoked five blunts before he got here”
@@mtn123 in the original comment it says if YOU are with your pregnant girlfriend and I don’t think we live in a video game so it’s definitely a what if on reality not video games
Yeah, that’s kinda the point. Almost everyone she killed was in self defense/they attacked first. that’s why the fight with abby is so different. abby doesn’t want to fight, she just wants to get lev out of there, and when she does fight it’s slow and sad. that’s why ellie doesn’t go through with it- there’s a difference of killing out of necessity and killing out of hate. (don’t get me wrong this story had so many problems but, this one was purposeful.)
@@Wyrm7774 The writers only script a few deaths, any others are player not 'Ellie'. You can play the game killing only those where the writing gives you no choice if you choose to.
There was no way to know she was just gonna let them go for sure as a father/mother you do what you believe is best even when it's not , You react instinctively in the face of danger where you would regularly talk and use logic..
Or the part where she's somehow maneuvering with a fucking rifle and shooting, despite being VERY pregnant. Her feet should hurt and she should be more fatigued at that stage...
Yes but unlike Joel, who did it from a place of his love towards her, Ellie did it from a place of hatred, towards Abby. That’s why Joel succeeded in doing it, and why Ellie not only fails miserably, but regrets even doing it in the first place once she realizes the scope of what she’s done
Ellie really just handled 2 trained soldiers. Meanwhile she was trained by Joel and Uncle Tommy. Kinda shows how skilled and ruthless they really were.
Nah this was just bs plot armor lmao she John wicked both of them even tho a (my guess) 6 foot fit soldier should realistically over Power her gun Arm but he just gets manhandled and then the other women has a brain freeze consider she reacts like 30 seconds to late which is crazy long especially for a soldier pregnant or not Edit: it’s been 6 month now and I still get comments complaining because I call out lazy writing lmao
I know that some people say Ellie shouldn't have it, or maybe it was desserved. But no matter which side you take this was 110% Owen's fault, I actually despise him. He cheats on his wife for his ex girl, somewhat standard, then proceeds to try and defend her even though his wife wants Abby out of the picture, and then decides to spare her location from Ellie even though his PREGNANT WIFE is held at gunpoint. Mel should have just said, "Fuck this I'm leaving your ass" and could probably still lived.
I wouldn’t have fought if I was Mel. I don’t know if I would’ve given up abbey’s place but I would’ve told her I was pregnant and went from there. But I can see why Neil chose to do it the way he did because then it lead to that scene with Dina and when Ellie told Abbey she was pregnant and Abbey said “Good” which speaks volumes about all four characters in that scene.
Right??😂😂 anybody would’ve pleaded and told EVERY bs if they have a gun pointed at them like “i have a kid” or “she’s pregnant”. That mf dint give a shit about his life istg
So they knew that & decided to act upon it that’s why they ended up dead because the girl wasn’t stupid, nobody having a gun is & if anybody realistically cared for there life’s they would plead for mercy & in a way they would try to compensate for what they have done through their actions & pleads, but that’s if they where trying to go for that they didn’t they intend to take the other initiative hence trying to grab the gun & yes people do get nervous & do dumb things but that’s unrealistically dumb, you have to be the guy from The Good Doctor show to do that, especially knowing fully well that they’re in trouble is why they did that. At the end of the day they’re pussy’s that ran from responsibility if they tried otherwise they might’ve had a chance to live a normal life or at least one of them
@@adrasteia7092 and mind explaining why you see Ellie as mentally unstable? I see the other but not Ellie she just seems struck with grief and anger in a world where she couldn't deal with it properly
Killing Joel was probably the worst decision they ever made. Who knew that a vengeful girl would go after them along with the sniper "uncle" and kill everyone?
@@Hello_there_obi Everything would've been resolved if they killed Ellie and Tommy; but no, Owen had to let two people live, after killing their friend in front of them.
@@Luke-vf6qc You don't get to cite morality when traveling across multiple states to kill someone. You either kill them all, or leave the door open for them to come find you. Owen wasn't moral, he was stupid.
Yo I had no idea Owen said that Mel was pregnant. That makes this scene so much more heart wrenching on top of Ellie killing Mel, who was pregnant. I just thought he went to say where Abby was but couldn’t get the rest of it out bc he died. Wow. This is… eye opening to me
Maybe the idiot should’ve said it when the girl covered in blood was pointing a gun at them, like any normal human would, but Neil and Halley are not normal.
Completely the guys fault seriously a dumb move neither of them had to tell her she was pregnant the guy should have known better Ellie kills a ton of them before this meeting his priorities where off 100%
@@irongrid4682 It’s dumb either way if you ask me. This game was just a bunch of dumb choices made by dumb people based on dumb circumstances. Such a downgrade from the first game.
@@GabesEdtizyes just the game focus about revenge for joel and revenge can blind people ellie who kill and hurt (emotionally) his friend and (new)familly and abby who get his revenge for the murder of his father but still do nightmare about it and the random girl with his game who did a total despair move and die a stupid way
@@GabesEdtizjust because YOU found it to be dumb doesn’t mean it’s a downgrade. You see this all over the internet people claiming it’s objectively bad when it’s actually objectively good thus the awards and success it’s had since the sequels release. Sorry you didn’t like it but that’s life. 🤷♂️
@@jarvisfowlkes3200 I mean haven’t played the game , but as an outside observer maybe leading with the “She’s pregnant” and not antagonizing the assailant is a better idea than trying to strongman your way out and then tacking on a “She was pregnant” when it doesn’t matter anymore
@@silverfreedomsyeah what the fuck was the point in telling Ellie that the woman was pregnant? To make her feel bad? I think my problem with the plot in TLOU2 isn't that it's "revenge is bad" it's that everything feels tacked on to prove that point. Like, narratively, the only purpose this chick being pregnant serves is to further show Ellie that revenge was bad. But Ellie has no way of knowing, and was attacked first. Her killing them was 100% justifiable in this situation. So it's like the writers were like, "How do we show Ellie defending herself as a bad thing and as a lesson on revenge? Oh I know! The woman was pregnant the whole time!"
@@jacobshelton5129 why is Joel so important though, I must of miss the part where that’s my problem really out hear trying to compare people life’s even over someone who killed millions😂
@@laneconnelly30 so you’re one of those people, well listen well kid, it’s a video game and for that reason I have the option to not give a fuck when someone who happens to be pregnant dies especially when that person helped kill a beloved character. Your trying to make it seem like this shit is something that really happened when it’s a work of fiction, and for that reason I don’t need to care about her fate. Have a nice day
Imagine NOT saying "stop I'm pregnant" as a bargaining chip when held at gunpoint. Even dumber would be to resist and try to attack the person holding the gun...
"No no no no no..." Ellie is so cold, but hearing her say no continuously because she realizes she just killed a baby, makes me so happy, because she still cares about children, even if they were born yet
@@POTUS-46thso was killing Joel and being hunky dory afterwards; way I see it they ALL had it coming and even though I wish Abby died I’m glad she lived…so that she can live with her stupid ass self; she killed Ellie’s father (or the closest thing she had to one) she ends up with no friends 🤷🏼 fair play in my opinion
Owen was a nice guy, as nice as any of the WLF anyway, but he got both of them killed. Smart play was to tell Ellie then go after her once Mel was safe and see if he could catch her before she got to Abby.
My girl Ellie really ended a family career that was just doing self defense but didn't kill the main villain of the story even tho she killed Joel and almost kill her 😂😂😂
@@DarkWolf-nq4ydyou missed the point of the comment, Ellie was killing people left and right to get to Abby to kill her specifically, then at the very end, she doesn’t kill her anyway.
@@TheDeletharShe was projecting her anger on Abby's for not forgiving Joel properly. When she learnt that all those killings were useless because she understandood, it was herself to blame, she stopped killing Abby at the right moment. Abby would go for a killing spree, but she was more mature than Ellie. She wanted all that stuff end. That's why Abby preferred to moved on with Lev instead of killing Ellie during the final fight.
@@benmoraxno killing Abby was literally her best option. After what happened to Joel she deserved to die but they tried to turn it into a “revenge is bad story” after she killed like 30 other people
It really was! How did these people survive so long when they have no clue how to handle these situations? I guess they relied too heavily on numbers. Not their decision making skills.
i think this was worse then her first kill, because she knew she was meant to feel bad but she was more upset about not getting approval then actually killing someone
Angry Joe had the best reply to this encounter and it’s like the game is tryna make us feel bad for two people that just tried to kill us. The pregnant lady just should have never got aggressive 🤷🏻♂️ she ain’t give a shit about that baby since she popped up on screen.
This actually makes me really sad hearing that Owen said she was pregnant. It was sad to begin with but man… it hits deeper. Yes, I’ve played this games too many times to count and this is the first I’m hearing the word “pregnant.” Out of Owen in this moment
For thoes saying she didn't care that mel was pregnant. She did, you can tell by the worry we saw at the end of this clip and just after this she panics and thinks about dina.
If only they would have mentioned that Mel is pregnant.Abby still has no heart,she knows that Dina is pregnant but she is still ready to kill her but Lev stopped her.I wish Ellie had just killed Abby, she didn't but it's so sad.
You say ABBY has no heart because of that scene? You're not that bright are you? Abby only was ready to kill Dina because she thought Ellie killed Mel on purporse, that's why Abby was angry and wanted to kill Dina in that moment. You can't blame her for that when Ellie has been equally heartless all game.
@@Bloody_Cake.Ellie shows more remorse than Abby ever had lmfao. Abby literally killed her own faction for 2 strangers she met for 2 days. Abby is a snake. Period.
@Bloody_Cake. Ellie was distraught learning she killed a pregnant woman, Abby was about to do it willingly. Ellie was angry about Joel, how does abbys anger over Mel excuse her being a shit person?
abby wasn’t heartless, she spare ellie and tommy twice (even because of lev) she only focus on her revenge towards joel while ellie slaughter everyone on purpose except mel and owen
I don't know if anyone noticed, but at that moment when she says: point out where she is and you'd better point to the same places. Joel also said this when Ellie was kidnapped by those cannibals
Both of them were sooooooo dumb here. 1. Neither of them mentioned that she's pregnant. Ellie is a killer but she's NOT heartless. 2. Attacking her was the wrong way to handle the situation. 3. I get Abby is your friend but telling Ellie where she is WAS the best option. 4. Both of them seemed to be done with this whole thing. Neither of them really seemed to care anymore. 5. Ellie wouldn't have killed you without reason. They weren't a threat to her so why make yourself one. Edit: Damn, didn't expect to get so many likes and comments.
@@rugu2368well considering what happened the last time they met. She could've beat the shit outta them before asking questions but she straight up walked up to them and asked.
First of all there's no way they would argue with an angry stranger and tell them about the pregnancy as if it will change their mind and second Mel was actually going to give Abby up but Owen intervened
I believe Owen thought he could grab the gun from Eliie because he had done so earlier in the story. Its crazy that he didn't factor how determined Ellie must be considering where they left her.
Both could’ve choose to keep their child as safe as possible and they both chose to fight knowing it would take them out of probability of the safest choice.
this scene makes me realize how much Ellie was transforming into Joel when he did the same thing to the men in the part where he was recovering and some people took Ellie
She literally attacked her with a knife, that’s an incredibly dumb thing to do when you are pregnant, even Owen attempting to disarm her put Mel in danger and got himself killed
Let’s be honest if the story had Abby get saved by Ellie when she was too weak to escape the infected at the start of part 2 and Abby killed Ellie in front of Joel hypothetically if they somehow knocked him down to force him to watch in an eye for an eye situation (unlikely I know) Joel would’ve killed everyone in that group without a hint of regret if it meant getting revenge on another militia group who killed his second daughter and that fight in the cinema where Abby overpowered Ellie would’ve been an example of dad strength the way he would’ve been whooping her ass lol
She was about to pull out ol Joel's move. This almost played out like the scene where Joel has the two scouts from David and he tells one to point on the map where David is, after dude points the location he kills both of them
When you hit someone's father figure with a golf club until he died a painful death, you really shouldn't expect that she is going to even notice your bump, If they told her earlier this wouldn't have happened.
Give her what she wants and beg her to spare the unborn child vs try to overpower her and risk dying anyways. Guess the guy was really confident about being able to take the gun from her to not even try to agree to her demand. Well too bad he made a dumb choice.
A good thing to think about is how Ellie learned this from Joel like how he used it in the first game. Her flaw was how she wasn’t able to stay calm, when Joel did it he kept calm and it made him more intimidating than if he was freaking out like Ellie did. (Js a small theory basically)
First time you see Mel she is lying unconscious in a sleeping bag next to a knife. Manny is doing the same next to a gun and Abby is again doing the same but is choking and wakes up. The foreshadowing in this game is incredible!
ellie seeing that she just killed someone who is pregnant while having dina who is also pregnant must be horrible because she knows that this could happen to dina
@@generallyuseless5821 my question is how would they know where she is on the map? I think at this point Abbie is on the seraphite island and isn’t in contact with her allys.
To everyone saying those two are dumb/its not ellies fault: The point of this moment is not about fault, regardless of the blame of the whole situation Ellie stuck her knife in a pregnant woman’s neck, that will cause some serious mental damage no matter who’s fault it is. One of the biggest themes of the game is a back and forth revenge match. The message its trying to portray is that if you keep going for that revenge your only perpetuating violence that will lead to more violence while becoming a monster, that was the point of this scene.
Ellie didnt commit any revenge here. Its self defense. She has nothing to feel bad about. The only people responsible for those 2s deaths is themselves.
That dude Owen is one of the worst characters ever in game history Cheats on his pregnant girlfriend then gets her killed trying to protect his trans girlfriend 😂
I always think how overtime as Ellie kills more and more WLFs and more of Ellie's friends and family, her still living ones hear about how gruesome their deaths were from reports and start to slowly realize how much they fucked up. Especially when they might have started learning that Ellie wasn't the only one slaughtering WLFs looking for more.
@@chicnstu6157 That is true, I guess they were trying to develop these characters through the lens of Abby. I think what got me was what the comment said below, it’s finding out that she IS killing people. It’s just like playing Joel, when he starts killing the people at the hospital, you don’t know how to feel. Like I agreed with him but the SHOCK of seeing people act human and vulnerable. It’s pretty crazy.
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This is 110% Owens fault, he still loved Abby and risked his child and his gf’s life for Abby’s safety
That’s mel
as if Ellie wasn't gonna kill them anyway
I mean, he was right. Psycho was gonna kill them anyway.
@@awildsnorlax3075 yeah
@@awildsnorlax3075she wasnt lol
Quick tip: if someone points a gun at you don’t attack them, especially if you are with your pregnant girlfriend; that’s a whole new level of stupid
Eh, I wouldnt care it's the zombie apocalypse anyways. We're all dead eventually!
You’re getting a gun pointed at you by Ellie, you know, the same Ellie that said they would find and kill every last one of them? She’s Already done it multiple times before this, remember???
@@mtn123because they know that in game apparently, you get a gun pointed at you in real life and you think “that’s Charles mason the same Charles mason that smoked five blunts before he got here”
@@NazoNova but it’s not real life, it’s The Last of Us
@@mtn123 in the original comment it says if YOU are with your pregnant girlfriend and I don’t think we live in a video game so it’s definitely a what if on reality not video games
When your baby daddy cares more about his fling than your child
Seriously! Owen pissed me off. He was thinking about Abbey, not his pregnant girlfriend and unborn child.
@@lilscenechick1995 bad writing, lmao
bro💀
Wtf r u on about?💀 abby was never his "fling", he's known her since forever, and he loved her. No shit he didn't want to give up where she is
@@grannyperson Then he should have made sure his dwarf went into the right garden to plant to begin with.
Every single clip I've seen of Ellie killing someone, the people really just do it to themselves man.
Yeah. The writers trying so hard to make them look innocent victims of a revenge while it's mostly the way they behave that ended up killing them
Yeah, that’s kinda the point. Almost everyone she killed was in self defense/they attacked first. that’s why the fight with abby is so different. abby doesn’t want to fight, she just wants to get lev out of there, and when she does fight it’s slow and sad. that’s why ellie doesn’t go through with it- there’s a difference of killing out of necessity and killing out of hate. (don’t get me wrong this story had so many problems but, this one was purposeful.)
Its so the writers can pretend like ellie wasn't fine killing 100 people then stopping right before killing who she wanted
@@Wyrm7774 The writers only script a few deaths, any others are player not 'Ellie'. You can play the game killing only those where the writing gives you no choice if you choose to.
@@Wyrm7774you don’t have to kill that many, that’s how YOU poay
When you kill two people, but the "triple kill 🎉" pops on the screen
Ha
Two birds one stone 😎
Или возможно ремпейдж
@@khylerrodriguez1443*Three birds, one stone
💀
“Ah yes, I shall put my baby’s life in danger instead of simply doing what’s best”
Believe they did that a few times this game
There was no way to know she was just gonna let them go for sure as a father/mother you do what you believe is best even when it's not ,
You react instinctively in the face of danger where you would regularly talk and use logic..
Idk why but I imagined her drinking some Earl tea lol
Tlou part ii top tier writing.
Or the part where she's somehow maneuvering with a fucking rifle and shooting, despite being VERY pregnant. Her feet should hurt and she should be more fatigued at that stage...
Ellie did what Joel did in the first game to find her. Man that's amazing
I was thinking the same thing! It’s so cute how they are similar!
Yeah but she lacks the experience to do it properly, which is another good detail too
Yes but unlike Joel, who did it from a place of his love towards her, Ellie did it from a place of hatred, towards Abby. That’s why Joel succeeded in doing it, and why Ellie not only fails miserably, but regrets even doing it in the first place once she realizes the scope of what she’s done
She forgot to tie them up first, but definitely tried
If I'm not wrong tommy did it too
The main reason Ellie was so distraught by the fact that she killed a pregnant woman is also probably because her own girlfriend is pregnant.
I WAS THINK THATTTTTTT
& she brushed it off. Like a true serial killer
@@Ishbikes fr 🗡️ ❤️
Well yeah that definitely helps the player and the fictional character relate to situation. But also its js a very well known tragedy in stories.
Interesting , the same way she wanted to kill abby with a knife like happened in the last of us 1 , she turned a monster that she wanted to destroy
Ellie really just handled 2 trained soldiers. Meanwhile she was trained by Joel and Uncle Tommy. Kinda shows how skilled and ruthless they really were.
Nah this was just bs plot armor lmao she John wicked both of them even tho a (my guess) 6 foot fit soldier should realistically over Power her gun Arm but he just gets manhandled and then the other women has a brain freeze consider she reacts like 30 seconds to late which is crazy long especially for a soldier pregnant or not
Edit: it’s been 6 month now and I still get comments complaining because I call out lazy writing lmao
mel wasn't a trained soldier, she was a medic
No.
It’s just that this game’s got a terrible writing
@@prska dont forget venom snake was a medic too
Plot armour.
Kills hundred and a pregnant lady but stops at the person she wanted revenge on
To be fair, she didn't know the lady was pregnant
@@ThingsWithSomeConnectioncome on my guy, you go on a killing spree just to not kill the main person who caused you to trip out?… 😂
What?
Appetently to the die hard morons that liked this game, that means you didn't get it.
Kills hundred who were also about to kill her but stop at the person she wanted to revenge on who didn't even tried to kill her and spare her twice*
I know that some people say Ellie shouldn't have it, or maybe it was desserved. But no matter which side you take this was 110% Owen's fault, I actually despise him. He cheats on his wife for his ex girl, somewhat standard, then proceeds to try and defend her even though his wife wants Abby out of the picture, and then decides to spare her location from Ellie even though his PREGNANT WIFE is held at gunpoint. Mel should have just said, "Fuck this I'm leaving your ass" and could probably still lived.
This is exactly why I feel Mel's death was not deserving at all. It didn't end well for the baby too, smh this is just too saddening.
I wouldn’t have fought if I was Mel. I don’t know if I would’ve given up abbey’s place but I would’ve told her I was pregnant and went from there. But I can see why Neil chose to do it the way he did because then it lead to that scene with Dina and when Ellie told Abbey she was pregnant and Abbey said “Good” which speaks volumes about all four characters in that scene.
Cared more about Abby than their kid
Right??😂😂 anybody would’ve pleaded and told EVERY bs if they have a gun pointed at them like “i have a kid” or “she’s pregnant”. That mf dint give a shit about his life istg
They were dead regardless..
This storyline is so shit and unimmersive
So they knew that & decided to act upon it that’s why they ended up dead because the girl wasn’t stupid, nobody having a gun is & if anybody realistically cared for there life’s they would plead for mercy & in a way they would try to compensate for what they have done through their actions & pleads, but that’s if they where trying to go for that they didn’t they intend to take the other initiative hence trying to grab the gun
& yes people do get nervous & do dumb things but that’s unrealistically dumb, you have to be the guy from The Good Doctor show to do that, especially knowing fully well that they’re in trouble is why they did that. At the end of the day they’re pussy’s that ran from responsibility if they tried otherwise they might’ve had a chance to live a normal life or at least one of them
Bad writingggg
Imagine not listening to the clearly mentally unstable women pointing a gun at you
Wouldn’t call her mentally unstable
Hell the villain of the game is the mentally unstable one
@@dungeonsanddragonshomebrew3165 uh they're both mentally unstable
@@adrasteia7092 and mind explaining why you see Ellie as mentally unstable? I see the other but not Ellie she just seems struck with grief and anger in a world where she couldn't deal with it properly
@@dungeonsanddragonshomebrew3165sound like a nonstable mind state to ne
@@dungeonsanddragonshomebrew3165there are no true villains or heroes in this game.
“Point to where she is and you, it better match up” takes me back to when joel was trying to find Ellie
That kid is lucky asf😭🙏🏾
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Killing Joel was probably the worst decision they ever made. Who knew that a vengeful girl would go after them along with the sniper "uncle" and kill everyone?
Killing Joel wasn’t a mistake
killing joel wasn't the biggest mistake, prolly keeping her alive was
@@SchoolWasTaken it absolutely was
especially taking so much enjoyment out of it right in front of his family
Killing Joel arguably was the mistake of the developer, not the characters
@@Richard030 both really
“S-she’s pregnant…”
“Damn that sucks…Guess Mel shoulda thought about her choice a little harder lol.”
You weird
@@revenant2160 You, explain…
@@shoreiguess it’s not really a thing to LOL about
@@revenant2160 yet i did anyway, didn’t i buddy?
@@shoreiguess what was the point of this statement? You’re still weird for saying that
Elle learned a lot from Joel, considering this scene was almost a direct matchup to the first game when Joel was trying to find her.
Its cool how they call back to how Joel figured out where the canibal camp was
**in Halo voice over** Bloodline slayer
OR A TRIPLE KILL
Family Tree Destroyed
I read all of these in the halo voice over
😂😂
@@gman057I could probably do that.
Abby's entire gang felt so incompetent.
Their only mistake was listening to Owen, every dumb thing in the game is because of him or people going along with his shit.
How about abby’s mistake for letting ellie live
@@KheapathicWell to be fair Owen had better morals than his crew. He knew Ellie and Tommy did nothing to Jerry
@@Hello_there_obi Everything would've been resolved if they killed Ellie and Tommy; but no, Owen had to let two people live, after killing their friend in front of them.
@@Luke-vf6qc You don't get to cite morality when traveling across multiple states to kill someone. You either kill them all, or leave the door open for them to come find you. Owen wasn't moral, he was stupid.
Yo I had no idea Owen said that Mel was pregnant. That makes this scene so much more heart wrenching on top of Ellie killing Mel, who was pregnant. I just thought he went to say where Abby was but couldn’t get the rest of it out bc he died. Wow. This is… eye opening to me
Maybe the idiot should’ve said it when the girl covered in blood was pointing a gun at them, like any normal human would, but Neil and Halley are not normal.
Well, in the game subtitles it doesn't show "pregnant" I watched the cut scene many times
That pointer trick was Joel's tactic
Tommy did the same to those 2 guys on the chair.
You think at least one of them would tell Ellie that Mel’s pregnant. But nope…
Completely the guys fault seriously a dumb move neither of them had to tell her she was pregnant the guy should have known better Ellie kills a ton of them before this meeting his priorities where off 100%
@@irongrid4682 It’s dumb either way if you ask me. This game was just a bunch of dumb choices made by dumb people based on dumb circumstances. Such a downgrade from the first game.
@@GabesEdtiz agreed
@@GabesEdtizyes just the game focus about revenge for joel and revenge can blind people ellie who kill and hurt (emotionally) his friend and (new)familly and abby who get his revenge for the murder of his father but still do nightmare about it and the random girl with his game who did a total despair move and die a stupid way
@@GabesEdtizjust because YOU found it to be dumb doesn’t mean it’s a downgrade. You see this all over the internet people claiming it’s objectively bad when it’s actually objectively good thus the awards and success it’s had since the sequels release. Sorry you didn’t like it but that’s life. 🤷♂️
Ok so she was pregnant , failed to mention it AND attacked the person who had her at gunpoint ?
You think that would've really changed anything that the thing Ellie was in such a rush she didnt even try to understand
@@jarvisfowlkes3200 I mean haven’t played the game , but as an outside observer maybe leading with the “She’s pregnant” and not antagonizing the assailant is a better idea than trying to strongman your way out and then tacking on a “She was pregnant” when it doesn’t matter anymore
Apparently she lost her basic maternal instincts when the apocalypse hit
Yeah this game was a mistake if we're being honest here there was so much wrong with it
@@silverfreedomsyeah what the fuck was the point in telling Ellie that the woman was pregnant? To make her feel bad?
I think my problem with the plot in TLOU2 isn't that it's "revenge is bad" it's that everything feels tacked on to prove that point. Like, narratively, the only purpose this chick being pregnant serves is to further show Ellie that revenge was bad.
But Ellie has no way of knowing, and was attacked first. Her killing them was 100% justifiable in this situation. So it's like the writers were like, "How do we show Ellie defending herself as a bad thing and as a lesson on revenge? Oh I know! The woman was pregnant the whole time!"
“She’s pregnant”
I missed the part where that’s my problem
Okay so what if they killed off Dina you probably be all butt hurt😂
@@laneconnelly30 there will always that one guy that says some stupid thing and right now that’s you
@@laneconnelly30 bro your really out here comparing someone who killed Joel to Ellie’s gf, lol truly you have a dizzying intellect
@@jacobshelton5129 why is Joel so important though, I must of miss the part where that’s my problem really out hear trying to compare people life’s even over someone who killed millions😂
@@laneconnelly30 so you’re one of those people, well listen well kid, it’s a video game and for that reason I have the option to not give a fuck when someone who happens to be pregnant dies especially when that person helped kill a beloved character. Your trying to make it seem like this shit is something that really happened when it’s a work of fiction, and for that reason I don’t need to care about her fate. Have a nice day
Never underestimate a pissed off ellie
That was not on Ellie, those 2 were just beyond stupid.
Everyone in the game does a really fcking stupid thing at least one time. Like... everybody.
Ellie got the most of them.
Makes you wonder how they survived the apocalypse
3*
@@Chupapaninewell i don’t think the fetus really did anything. you could say lil bro was the smartest in the situation😭
"Sure she killed them but, like, they were dumb so it's not her fault"
She ended a whole bloodline
Ellie ended tons of bloodline during her playthrough while abby destroyed a whole village
Imagine NOT saying "stop I'm pregnant" as a bargaining chip when held at gunpoint.
Even dumber would be to resist and try to attack the person holding the gun...
And then tlou fans believe this is the best written game ever😂😂
"No no no no no..."
Ellie is so cold, but hearing her say no continuously because she realizes she just killed a baby, makes me so happy, because she still cares about children, even if they were born yet
Triple kill nice
"Thx for the likes guys wish u all the best"
Christ 💀
that was good dflldnsşhsb
Lil one just got spawnkilled. 💀
@@jurassicjojo4758dead before even spawning💀
This guy is a meance 💀💀
Never have I been so satisfied by killing complete strangers before. An amazing triple kill.
Really should give additional points for the abortion,
it’s a special move after all.
Thats foul 💀
bro...
@@POTUS-46thso was killing Joel and being hunky dory afterwards; way I see it they ALL had it coming and even though I wish Abby died I’m glad she lived…so that she can live with her stupid ass self; she killed Ellie’s father (or the closest thing she had to one) she ends up with no friends 🤷🏼 fair play in my opinion
@@alphaxan8175 bro tf did I do to you??
Owen was a nice guy, as nice as any of the WLF anyway, but he got both of them killed.
Smart play was to tell Ellie then go after her once Mel was safe and see if he could catch her before she got to Abby.
Or let Ellie have her vengeance. After all it's not as if Abby didn't deserve it.
I got chills remember when Joel interrogated David’s men looking for Ellie and he said he’ll die if his partner didn’t match his mark
That 3 man team wipe was crazy
Clutch
My girl Ellie really ended a family career that was just doing self defense but didn't kill the main villain of the story even tho she killed Joel and almost kill her 😂😂😂
technically she was just trying to get information, the guy got them both killed
@@DarkWolf-nq4ydyou missed the point of the comment, Ellie was killing people left and right to get to Abby to kill her specifically, then at the very end, she doesn’t kill her anyway.
@@TheDeletharbecause of shitty writing
@@TheDeletharShe was projecting her anger on Abby's for not forgiving Joel properly. When she learnt that all those killings were useless because she understandood, it was herself to blame, she stopped killing Abby at the right moment.
Abby would go for a killing spree, but she was more mature than Ellie. She wanted all that stuff end. That's why Abby preferred to moved on with Lev instead of killing Ellie during the final fight.
@@benmoraxno killing Abby was literally her best option. After what happened to Joel she deserved to die but they tried to turn it into a “revenge is bad story” after she killed like 30 other people
that punch was personal, she didn’t even pull out the switchblade lmfaoo
Ellie got a mean ass left hook 😂
Fr
She should join the Ufc
Still couldn’t beat Arthur tho
@@kellerhenry7249 Arthur?😂
@@1highvelocity1 Arthur Morgan
as ellie said earlier in the campaign "that was dumb"
It really was! How did these people survive so long when they have no clue how to handle these situations? I guess they relied too heavily on numbers. Not their decision making skills.
You know, I hope they show this scene is season 2. This whole scene was so gut wrenching and dark!
Marking the map just like Joe made me cry hard in this scene
afterwards she felts the exact same way she felt the first time killing somebody
Yup that trauma her hard
i think this was worse then her first kill, because she knew she was meant to feel bad but she was more upset about not getting approval then actually killing someone
Should’ve killed Abby
"Shes pregnant"
"..... so what?"
*stand back up and shoot her tummy* "No worry about that..."
@@dofydudes1735not funny
@@AbyssaloftheVoid its funny , and also its a game so.
"so its a triple, got my UAV"
Tbh I really thought they were gonna kill Dina off to
"she's.... pregnant"
*Triple kill*
Angry Joe had the best reply to this encounter and it’s like the game is tryna make us feel bad for two people that just tried to kill us. The pregnant lady just should have never got aggressive 🤷🏻♂️ she ain’t give a shit about that baby since she popped up on screen.
Damn she got a triple kill and killed the baby before spawning. What a legend.
Lil bro got spawn killed without spawning now he’s in the baby gulag tryna survive 💀🍷🗿
This actually makes me really sad hearing that Owen said she was pregnant. It was sad to begin with but man… it hits deeper. Yes, I’ve played this games too many times to count and this is the first I’m hearing the word “pregnant.” Out of Owen in this moment
I have to keep saying this: *never* wrestle with someone who has a loaded gun
For thoes saying she didn't care that mel was pregnant. She did, you can tell by the worry we saw at the end of this clip and just after this she panics and thinks about dina.
If only they would have mentioned that Mel is pregnant.Abby still has no heart,she knows that Dina is pregnant but she is still ready to kill her but Lev stopped her.I wish Ellie had just killed Abby, she didn't but it's so sad.
You say ABBY has no heart because of that scene? You're not that bright are you? Abby only was ready to kill Dina because she thought Ellie killed Mel on purporse, that's why Abby was angry and wanted to kill Dina in that moment. You can't blame her for that when Ellie has been equally heartless all game.
@@Bloody_Cake.Ellie shows more remorse than Abby ever had lmfao. Abby literally killed her own faction for 2 strangers she met for 2 days. Abby is a snake. Period.
@Bloody_Cake. Ellie was distraught learning she killed a pregnant woman, Abby was about to do it willingly. Ellie was angry about Joel, how does abbys anger over Mel excuse her being a shit person?
abby wasn’t heartless, she spare ellie and tommy twice (even because of lev) she only focus on her revenge towards joel while ellie slaughter everyone on purpose except mel and owen
@@zul6227 except all those people tried to kill her in those cases
Ever hear of self defense?
I don't know if anyone noticed, but at that moment when she says: point out where she is and you'd better point to the same places. Joel also said this when Ellie was kidnapped by those cannibals
The worst death in the WLF is Alice, couldn’t care less about Mel and Owen, let’s go Team Ellie 💪😎
Ellies reaction to accidentally killing a baby seemed so realistic
Both of them were sooooooo dumb here.
1. Neither of them mentioned that she's pregnant. Ellie is a killer but she's NOT heartless.
2. Attacking her was the wrong way to handle the situation.
3. I get Abby is your friend but telling Ellie where she is WAS the best option.
4. Both of them seemed to be done with this whole thing. Neither of them really seemed to care anymore.
5. Ellie wouldn't have killed you without reason. They weren't a threat to her so why make yourself one.
Edit: Damn, didn't expect to get so many likes and comments.
how thry can know ellie is a good person
I mean Mel hated Abby, if i was her i wouldve given her up so fast
ellie is a shitty prsn , she wldve killed them . wdym don’t care ? owen wanted to leave with abby and yara to protect thm
@@rugu2368well considering what happened the last time they met. She could've beat the shit outta them before asking questions but she straight up walked up to them and asked.
First of all there's no way they would argue with an angry stranger and tell them about the pregnancy as if it will change their mind and second Mel was actually going to give Abby up but Owen intervened
This game is basically the snowball effect of killing people.
I believe Owen thought he could grab the gun from Eliie because he had done so earlier in the story. Its crazy that he didn't factor how determined Ellie must be considering where they left her.
Joel taught her well
They really tried to kill Ellie💀
Edit: nah how did I get this many likes thank yall
Yeah beacuse they saw her as a child
Bro the whole game tried to kill Ellie no shit 😂
@@DimisianoDude they're literally around the same age as her.
Ellie has plot armor
Just realized she used what Joel used to find her in the first game. Make them point somewhere in the map and make it match.
Both could’ve choose to keep their child as safe as possible and they both chose to fight knowing it would take them out of probability of the safest choice.
Call an admin, we've got a spawnkiller here 💀
Dude knew she was preggers and still chose the high risk option🤦♂️
yep that's why the new characters are forgettable except for issac and lev
this scene makes me realize how much Ellie was transforming into Joel when he did the same thing to the men in the part where he was recovering and some people took Ellie
The map thing was a complete reference to Joel when he asked that guy in the first game where Ellie was and his buddy better say the same thing
- She's pregnant
- OMG!!!! Triple kill!!
I get why Ellie feels guilty for killing a pregnant person, but also- you were gunna die don't stress about it.
She literally attacked her with a knife, that’s an incredibly dumb thing to do when you are pregnant, even Owen attempting to disarm her put Mel in danger and got himself killed
she could have performed a C-section to save the baby, use the same knife to save a life
@@peterhz3128dawg...do you know how to just "do a c-section" 🤨
@@peterhz3128 you think Ellie knows how to do a C section?
@@peterhz3128baby would still die..
Arguably the best character in The Last of Us
God i really want a prequel that shows joel and tommy, considering how well they trained ellie they must have really been skilled
Ellie said she would let them live if they cooperated but they didn’t cooperate so Owen and Mel brought that on themselves!
Then again, you can’t trust some people. They might just want you calm and useful before they execute you
Let’s be honest if the story had Abby get saved by Ellie when she was too weak to escape the infected at the start of part 2 and Abby killed Ellie in front of Joel hypothetically if they somehow knocked him down to force him to watch in an eye for an eye situation (unlikely I know) Joel would’ve killed everyone in that group without a hint of regret if it meant getting revenge on another militia group who killed his second daughter and that fight in the cinema where Abby overpowered Ellie would’ve been an example of dad strength the way he would’ve been whooping her ass lol
I would love to play that version of the game rather then what we got
Dude, I 100% agree with you.
Man I’d prefer to play that version Joel rage is the best rage
Dude that isnt a survival game for us, its a survival game for them
She was about to pull out ol Joel's move. This almost played out like the scene where Joel has the two scouts from David and he tells one to point on the map where David is, after dude points the location he kills both of them
Joel was the main character in the game, so most people won't blame him. It's the protagonist bias in the players.
Mel dying was my favorite part
You need help, no normal person says that even if it’s just a video game
I think Lego Batman might be more of your speed
@@tntxcash547 I think a mental asylum is more your speed as well
Like Arkham Asylum? Featured in the Lego Batman game you been playing
She got the triple kill 💀💀
Joel’s death is the saddest
it's crazy how much more pregnant mel looked after she was on the ground 🙄
When you hit someone's father figure with a golf club until he died a painful death, you really shouldn't expect that she is going to even notice your bump,
If they told her earlier this wouldn't have happened.
I mean HER father figure did fuck with someone elses father figure so….yeah shitty writings aside tho
But you don’t know that, you don’t know what Neil would’ve made her do
And when you kill a doctor who was a father to get back some girl for selfish reasons, you get consequences
@@revenant2160 well he was about to kill Ellie, Joe did what every father would do, he didn't started it.
@@revenant2160the consequences were all the fireflies dying in the hospital and 10x more casualties on Abby’s side compared to Ellie
"tell me where Abby is so I can apologize to her for my papa's death!!!"
her doing the same thing that Joel did with pointing to the map when they were in the cabin in part one🥺
That scene escalated so quickly
She got a killstreak. She can now call in a UAV
“Friendly UAV online”
Give her what she wants and beg her to spare the unborn child vs try to overpower her and risk dying anyways. Guess the guy was really confident about being able to take the gun from her to not even try to agree to her demand. Well too bad he made a dumb choice.
A good thing to think about is how Ellie learned this from Joel like how he used it in the first game. Her flaw was how she wasn’t able to stay calm, when Joel did it he kept calm and it made him more intimidating than if he was freaking out like Ellie did. (Js a small theory basically)
First time you see Mel she is lying unconscious in a sleeping bag next to a knife. Manny is doing the same next to a gun and Abby is again doing the same but is choking and wakes up. The foreshadowing in this game is incredible!
ellie seeing that she just killed someone who is pregnant while having dina who is also pregnant must be horrible because she knows that this could happen to dina
Ironic considering that Dina almost got killed
“Point to where she is on this map.”
If somebody asked me that I would say, “I literally have no clue, I’m not the FBI.”
I imagine people in the game are better at it. Maps are probably more important post apocalypse than they are rn.
@@generallyuseless5821 my question is how would they know where she is on the map? I think at this point Abbie is on the seraphite island and isn’t in contact with her allys.
I would just say “ girl im failed geographic test! i can’t point shit 😭”
"Point to where she is on the map" like father like daughter
I recently played this game for the first time and i was surprised by it, dude even the NPC’s in each encounter has personality and names
Imagine your friend tries to wrestle a gun from somebody and you just stand there, and then draw a knife afterwards
To everyone saying those two are dumb/its not ellies fault:
The point of this moment is not about fault, regardless of the blame of the whole situation Ellie stuck her knife in a pregnant woman’s neck, that will cause some serious mental damage no matter who’s fault it is. One of the biggest themes of the game is a back and forth revenge match. The message its trying to portray is that if you keep going for that revenge your only perpetuating violence that will lead to more violence while becoming a monster, that was the point of this scene.
Ellie didnt commit any revenge here. Its self defense. She has nothing to feel bad about. The only people responsible for those 2s deaths is themselves.
Okay I know Ellie killed them but the immediate regret when she found out the lady was pregnant was soo saddd
That method of asking both of them to make sure they r telling the truth is what Joel made in the first game , nostalgia ..
She continued to vomit and be traumatized for a couple days
Yeah and her hearing Joel voice when Tommy was calling for made the trauma worst for her
Poor murderer lol
While Abby laughed at the fact that Ellie’s girlfriend was pregnant
@@MazDconDecepticon it was self defense, not murder.
That dude Owen is one of the worst characters ever in game history
Cheats on his pregnant girlfriend then gets her killed trying to protect his trans girlfriend 😂
Bro what, he was such a nice carachter his only mistake was to cheat
Abby isnt trans 💀
@@doggo9481wait fr? Why did she/he look like that then lmao she/he looks so masculine
@@caballo3739 Yes, she’s just a woman that works out
@@caballo3739idk who told you that abby was trans its not true she is just super buff
I always think how overtime as Ellie kills more and more WLFs and more of Ellie's friends and family, her still living ones hear about how gruesome their deaths were from reports and start to slowly realize how much they fucked up. Especially when they might have started learning that Ellie wasn't the only one slaughtering WLFs looking for more.
If you notice Ellie does the same thing Joel does in the first one when he is trying to find her
All they had to do was say that and chances are they would have lived… guy just kept inching towards Ellie trying to disarm her
This moment hurt so much
She terminated that clump of cells
I dont really think it was to make you feel bad about killing, but rather Ellie realizing the horrific things she's done.
@@chicnstu6157 That is true, I guess they were trying to develop these characters through the lens of Abby. I think what got me was what the comment said below, it’s finding out that she IS killing people. It’s just like playing Joel, when he starts killing the people at the hospital, you don’t know how to feel. Like I agreed with him but the SHOCK of seeing people act human and vulnerable. It’s pretty crazy.
😂
@@jessecuevas6456Three times, because everyone is a clump of cells, that’s literally what multicellular organisms are.
Human beings are clumps of cells.