Warcraft 3 - Custom Hero Arena Defense
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Game: Warcraft 3 (The Frozen Throne)
Media: Gameplay Commentary
Version: 1.27
Mode: Multiplayer
Platform: PC
Genres: Real-time Strategy, Fantasy
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Игры
Hi guys.
Hi guy.
Guy hi.
hi tainted
hi nick
Tainted Hi Tainted
5:14 "Take your time look aro.. I grow impatient"
I am the son of the wind and rain
Thunder beckons and I heed the call
And if die upon this day
In battle I will fall
Hear me brothers, gather up the wolves
To battle we will ride
War drums echo the beating heart
Pounding from inside
Storm!
Black clouds fill the sky
Earth!
Hear my battle cry
Fire!
Thunder will bring forth...
Death!
From the power of the Horde
Far seer to the Warsong clan
To no man will I yield
Feel the power and the energy
For the black god, honor, and steel
I feel the fire burning in my veins
Lightning strikes at my command
With storm and earth, Axe and fire
We've come to claim this land
Storm!
Black clouds fill the sky
Earth!
Hear my battle cry
Fire!
Thunder will bring forth...
Death!
From the power of the Horde
Surrounded by the enemy
The wolf among the hounds
Thunder turns to silence, it took...
A hundred to bring me down
War-brothers falling at my side
With honor I will die
Upon the altar of the storms
I will be reborn
Storm!
Black clouds fill the sky
Earth!
Hear my battle cry
Fire!
Thunder will bring forth...
Death!
For I have been reborn!
Storm!
Earth!
Fire!
Death!
The power of the Horde!
CursiveS Strom "earth fire heed my call" this one is the right duh!! Btw that poem of yours that added with death was cringy
I can hear the poem.
20:31 illidan finishes the round:" is that all"?
wc3 is a legend
People still play WC3? So cool, I used to play waaay too much Frozen Throne, mostly played TDs though, even made a few. :D But was also playing loads of C&C Renegade, miss that comunity man!
I have just rediscovered. The custom campaigns and these maps are awesome (and that comes from someone who plays alone). I used to play a lot of frozen throne... Like a lot... But never pvp. Just the origilan story and normal maps.
Cant wait for the wc3 reforged remaster of this
9:36 "so you're tellin me theres a chance"
good to see wc3 is still alive!
Thats a nice skill combination. If your agility is hide enough you will be in unstoppable. I will level the critical,then cleave, up the ulti whenever possible and last I will level the bash
Ill never forget the great music of wc3 and wow and the great world
I cant believe you still play this game i m inspired
There's still much greatness from the game, which is why you see quite a lot more variety, more custom games. It's an opportunity to visit all of the custom games I missed out on playing when Wc3 was new
Yeah, Arena ruined this shit hard. Also, lul at Kidzin believing he deserved such a huge reward for playing a ranged agility hero who can easily pick off all the kills.
I'm so late to be watch this video so lately late, also I like it so much you guys are good.
wtii i yesterday thought "when will he play C.H.A.D. and now i see 9 mins ago Warcraft 3 - Custom Hero Arena Defense (C.H.A.D.)
Wtii you looks like the famous professor who plays basketball very well.
I was getting very antsy that you didn't buy mask of death in the early stages
Looks nice please more
You are the best man
AS cap is always 400%. Not sure of the formula at the moment, but attack speed increase always works linearly per item. You do not get less increase than the guy with a higher base attack speed.
Bash and crit - they always get rounded up to the closest 5%. Your bash went from 18% to 22%, meaning that it was 20% chance on both levels. You only got an increase on the damage per hit. Not sure if that was worth it, since you got it for the stun chance and not the damage.
I like passive builds too. :D
classic game ever
I love these custom hero arena style games and I'd be happy to see you have another go at this one, now that you know how to handle arena and what skills/characters are good/broken.
I recall there being a custom hero map which revolved around killing creeps to level up and to buy skills in a huge FFA map. There were bosses in the world with unique twists to them and occasional random arena fights. Since you bought skills, you could actually adapt to what your opponents were doing and counter their strategies.
Would you be interested in that? I could try and fetch it.
sounds fun, ye that would be interesting
Sounds very similiar to herocraft 2. That was an ffa where you buy skills and such. There are also 4 bosses at each corners of the map. Also a 5th hidden boss if you typed -darkness in the center where you bought the skills.
Thanks for the reply! At first glance, it seems to be yet another hero arena type map. I've looked through hundreds of maps but haven't found it yet. I am going through the maps chronologically and only got to 2007 thus far. I think I played that map in '08 or '09.
Maybe Angel Arena? but thats not really FFA I guess
No, I vividly remember Angel Arena. I'd like to see Wtii play that, too but it's not the one I'm trying to find.
Wtii Doesn’t get gold for once in a game ‘it’s about time you share that gold’
He gets gold in the game ‘I better just float this gold and not help out any team mates’
MrUnrucky The gold should go to those who knows how to use it, which is Wtii of course
Omg, a dude streaming Warcraft III in 2017! :)
Kidzin is just waiting for the last shot, then atking anyone with ranged could do the same.
Hello.
As far as the hardcap for attack speed goes, it is always 400% Attack Speed. The lower your initial BAT, the faster you can potentially attack. It does not equate the attack speeds of different units. A Blademaster with AS cap will have a much faster attack speed than a paladin with it.
I don't have the formula at the moment.
That's ok, I understand. Roughly 200 agility is what you are looking for then.
It still seems like if you gave them 2000 agility though they would attack faster but that may just be me
I Love this game
The actual Bash chances for the Bash ability:
Level 1: 10%
Level 2: 10%
Level 3: 15%
Level 4: 20%
Level 5: 20%
Bash goes to the closest value of 0-5-10-15-20-25...etc
Edit: I still wish these maps would give you full disclosure as to what abilities do. For an example, how much more damage does that Bash do? And I feel that the player should know the real values of abilities before they buy them.
I also think it'd be neat if everything properly stacked (Except Orb effects). For an example, you can very easily make lifesteal items stack with lifesteal, crit items stack with crit, etc.
Also depending on how that Thunder Clap was triggered, you could actually spam it by issueing an attack order over and over
Can confirm after testing that Thunder Clap is on attack and so you can spam Stop to make it proc more often, though I'm not sure how effective that is
U could make orbs stack in a spell book and make the effect you want selectable. That gives more micro possibilities.
I mean, sure, but that's still not actually stackable. That's like having an auto-cast attack modifier you can switch off or on. Now, you could technically replicate most bits about the Attack Modifiers through triggers, by having a single one that applies a debuff, which you instantly remove upon damage detection, and you then do whatever you want: You could spawn an invisible unit belonging to the attacker with Dark Arrows, no attack animation and no projectile speed (instant), so you then replicate the effect of Dark Arrows (without the actual missile model mind you, I wonder if you could trigger missiles completely but I doubt it'd work very well)
Nethalythic I was thinking about commenting on the actual probabilities.
It seems to me that Blizzard didn't programed more of these probabilities (like 2-4-6-... or 1-2-3-4-... for instance) because you have to do some work to compute the constant for the pseudo-random distribution for each probability. Also they didn't really intended to use so many values anyway.
I did a quick search on Hive to see if someone did more on that (computing the constants & implementing pseudo-random for them) but didn't find any substantial progress. Do you know of something?
I know enough of the probability behind that to compute the constants using some software like matlab, but it would be cool to have like a function in Jass where you insert the probability (to mimic) and it gives you the constant and everything (in short, a system for using pseudo-random for any or almost any probability).
I read about the limit and I know it has to do with that pseudo-random distribution, which actually benefits Bash as you wouldn't want to stun many times in a row any way, but I don't know more about it other than it's there and that Evasion isn't a part of it
aw yess
There should be an option to turn off gold rewards and xp gain for last hits on the arena.
Should have picked vampiric aura. It stacks with mask of death anyways.
50 G for every person on the winning team in arena, 100 G for being the first to kill the creeps
i believe this would be pretty balanced, it wouldnt go out of control after 1 arena at least
I think the rush to kill them the fastest is theoretically limiting of strategies, or at least fails to encourage a "I can outsurvive these mobs" strategy with a tankier character. I personally think the challenge should be in surviving the waves
Edit: Agree on sharing gold between winning team though. You don't want to be on a team where you feel that your teammates are your opponents (in the way of the goal of acquiring gold). I think if each kill added 50 Score to the team, and each Death subtracted 25 from the team, and then the team got their score in gold at the end, +100 Gold for being the winning team, you might've incentivised players to play as a team as they stand to gain a little by trying to save their teammates too.
Thirs remind me anti-mage ability draft with,jugg crit,sven cleave,void bash
how come i never see this on the custom map screen
That name is literally a curse in AIA
SOMEBODY MAKE A GAME like thiss!!! some small company !!! come on!!! i wll drop all my moneyy!!!
I don't get it, it's already made. It's right there! you just gotta download it
Pretty sure he's talking about a whole, new game, not a custom map in wc3, ;P
Daniel Vergara Like Dota 2
This was legit where the idea for DOTA came from
make another game with this survival game pls tnks for the entertrment from brazil!!
tried this map, and the 3rd ability doesnt even apply after picking
First comment in 2021
Currently July 16, 8:59 PM
Waiting on Kong Skull Island
So did you play that map again to see if blink exist?
Well, you could have given them lives or decide to do the team arena 1v1 (against the one in the opposite side, not choosing who you want to duel) to make it last longer
@Wtii i just want let u know about bril. aura, it does more manareg/sec , but the tooltip isnt right !
Everything is winable with bash, I always max bash in these mods :)
Hmm to be honest doesn't Drunken Brawler Passive worth more than just Critical Strike in the long run ? Yes it may deal less damage but it's basically 2 passives in one.
Much lesser proc chance makes it not really worth
At level 5 Drunken Brawler gives %16 chance to do 2.0 Damage and %14 Evasion
Level 5 Critical strike gives %20 chance to do 2.5 damage
To me only a %4 seems like a good tradeoff for some survivability at the cost of some damage.
As a matter of principle you do not want double crit/bash and/or evasion. They also round up to the closest 5%, meaning that 16% is actually 15%. If you have two critical strike abilities and both proc at the same time the last acquired critical strike will apply and the other one will be wasted. So you have to make sure you pick the last level of the stronger (in multiplier) critical last. But still, it is an overkill.
wtii plays right click champ and says: "Skillz!" so funny XD
That's his trademark haha
How to play multiplayer?
are WC 3 servers still popular? every time i go on there are only ever like 1 or 2 people in a lobby max
Is Wtii Brendan Fletcher the guy who was on Rampage the movie?
No, doesn't look like him either
wtii can u make more video of this costum game
I enjoyed that WoW trailer reference at 11:20 haha
gawwwwwlldddddddddd
would love a custom hero arena without agi heroes and crit.
What version is this?
Vampiric Aura instead of the Bash.. Or dodging
Does cleave also splash the damage of a bash proc or a critical. So many questions.
If you asume effects stack and it doesnt. You are screwed.
cleave does get extra damage from crit, it doesn't however gain anythingf rom bash
How to play this mode?
SKEEL! 24:47
We need watsh you playing warcraft reforged 👍👍👍👍
Lol in a game which is 100% choice people where complaining about imbalance. Don't choose a retarded loadout then, that is basically the skill that is being tested.
thats a bit retarded itself because it rules out 80% of all of the other avaiable builds, and pretty much all melee.
And even then whoever happen to get the most kills in the first arena between all the identically built heroes will then snowball due to the extra gold anyway, so even if everyone goes for exact same hero and build and everything, one person will still dominate
como se juega online?
Which server do you play on, and is it still alive, I haven't touched the game in a few years
Northrend
the gold price rewards are indeed fucked up, i would suggest the winning teams get some other bonus instead, like making the enemy wave's slightly harder instead.
one way you can modify the enemy spawns is getting team points, and use them on a aura totem to be affecting your hero's or the enemy spawns during wave clearing only.
this way you could possibly weaken one targeted player by making his wave slightly harder harder over time, buy de-buffing him/her or buffing his wave.
Hey, how can i get this game?
In our Country Gago Is a Rude Word to say xD
What is the name u nead for playing this?
when you play full rng set and call a random crit skill... neat.
Tooltips need to be manually typed in, so they aren't always accurate.
How you play online?
should of remade the moment the team arena turned out shitty
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR KAZZZZZH MODAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN
play on gameranger?
Wtf, this is so weird to see this map. I know the creator he made this in 2007-2008. I used to play wc3 with my best friend at his house and his older brother made this map.
You need to not focus on items so much in these type of games. Get some early then focus all into stats. Aka agility times. You end up way way stronger. More dmg/attack speed and then the items from early just increase them even more
hello fellow wc3 player
Wtii, I got a 4v4 crazy strat for you!
"Animal Style"
There's only one rule: you are only allowed one two-legged unit, the Beastmaster, who must be your first hero.
All other units and heroes must fly, craw, slither, or gallop. Go Night Elf, so that not even your workers walk on two legs.
ok
When Will We Unban Will?
it would be funny if Will stream sniped the duel :D
Ofc he will :P
Will is greatest waste of time this channel has see imo
Oi kidzin just because he's more popular than you doesn't give you the right to be jealous
ha-ha-ha.
Traitors!
Imo 150 is just fine if it's just 1 round arena. Teams are supposed to be relatively even so it's not my problem they did not focus fire.
But yeah, 50 per kill and like 100 for winning team should be just fine. If Nick gets permission to edit that this will be a fun custom all around.
I doubt it. The mapmaker hasn't been on HiveWorkshop for years. He has an email but I doubt he'd see my message or reply. I'm thinking of making my own one from the ground up instead, that would allow me the most freedom, but I have a lot of maps I technically "should" work on + I've got my education going on now.. :(
yep the only stupid thing was the 3 rounds arena.
if creator abandoned map i don't think there would be much harm in you changing some things and uploading that version to bot
Problem is the map is protected any way, and I'm not good enough at deprotecting maps, and it's still a bit unreasonable to do to someone's map. I actually did work a bit on my own idea of a map like this though. I'll keep up on that and make something decent eventually, it's not that time consuming to make.
=)
how is he playing online ? with like other peoples ?
You where bad to kitzi
Can u help me .. I need the name of this server and how to join it
Northrend (Europe) is the server, you change servers by clicking on the magnifying glass icon next to Battle.Net & selecting that server before clicking on Battle.Net after
you want a way to balance the game?
no more then 1 hero (2 snipers not allowed)
arena- duals the same rule (agility melee vs agility melee, tank vs tank...)
alot less lifes
heheheh. Arener.
Looks like you know tagalog
whats a mask of deaf???
His ign name is literally a curse word in filipino
gago ka ba?
You look like gnome xD
I miss the TC moan 🤔
Why do you go for 4 passives its super boring :/
i agree.. talk about entertainment lol
yes ofc it is but feels sad not using the mana at all
I think what's appealing is the thought process behind: Can you make all these effects stack together to make a super powerful auto attacker? It doesn't help that this is almost always the best option by a mile in these maps.
Should have picked blood lust
Hufflepuff passives may be good but it's not entertaining
is this garena?
Play darkness reborn
Its called envy. And its called last hitting and its not for you
noob talks a lit
Frankly on my opinion. Arena IS Fair. People just complaing constantly because they are losing and doing nothing to change that. They could focus Kidze more,but even being focused he still gets free shot or only focused by 2-3 people ou of 6 players. Team 2 was just sucking and complaning and doing nothing to improve, they deserved to be left behind by arena seriouly
Only annoying thing was Kidze stealing the last hits, but that ones of the perk of being ranged unfortunely :p
PASSIVE ONLY VIDEO? WHAT IS GOING ON
4th
fuck you
Fuck you back
What a fuckery
tbh kidzin was kinda right , he was carrying the team and got punished for it ... i know it isn't LoL but thats kind of a shitty attitude to act like that to a teammate. and he wasnt the only ranged , he just picked his abilities better .
Should have like some rules, maximum 2 passives and stuff to make it a little more balanced :)
I really liked the previous Custom Hero Survival type map they played for the "random abilities" option. I think it's worth a replay with that mode on.
that is true, tho its kinda all RNG who will win depending on what skills u get :)
Yeah, but that's part of the charm. You get more excitement, the idea of "ok, how will I make this work?", and yeah, you might be weaker due to the skills you got, but as we saw with that map (not the 1 in this video), some heroes were simply stronger than others because people got "lucky" and picked good skills. I'd consider getting "bad" abilities in that circumstance more of a challenge to overcome instead of being able to meticulously plan out your abilities to min-max your potential
random heroes is always fun, random abilities is always shit
In a map where you select the abilities for your hero, having the hero itself be random means so very little, and in my opinion the random abilities could put abilities at your disposal you'd normally never get. I honestly think it'd be a fun thing to try instead of always picking the same abilities
Isn't it fun to see Wtii being a hypocrite?
u play to win why try to get your teammate killed? ik its not fair but it started fair so thats all fair