I have a 14 for trailer (deck length) . Where do you measure from for center of axle placement? From tongue or from front of deck ? Is it 60 percent of deck length or 60 percent of total trailer length ? Or is the 60 percent wrong in general . Thanks for any help ... If I go by the 60 percent of deck length, it should be moved forward a few more inches but that isn't far from being center of deck .... I feel like it should be moved back a few inches ...
Typically you would do the 60% rule on the deck length, not on overall trailer length. So if you have a 14' deck you would measure from front of deck back about 8' 4" and that would be where you would center the axle. That would put about 5' 6" of deck behind axle. If it is a tandem axle trailer, same thing but you would center the center hanger for equalizer off of that measurement putting one axle in front of the 60% and one behind the 60%. There are many ways to calculate axle placement depending on trailer type and how weight is distributed. For most utility type trailer the 60/40 rule works just fine.
@johnsontrailerparts thank you for the info , I plan to make this a tandem axle trailer at some point but for now it will remain a single axle . Thats where I have the axle at now but it just looked to far forward to me . I just wanted to be sure basically. I used the 60/40 rule back when I placed the axle .
Is there a reason why you didn't weld the front and back edges of the spring hangers to the frame as well? I am about to weld mine up and just want to make sure I do it correctly.
Hi, thanks for the question, we never recommend welding across frame tubing since it creates a weak point. A good solid weld on each side of the hangers is more then sufficient. Our engineer for our trailer plans even recommends welding the hangers to flat stock and then welding that to the frame for even more strength. See our other video here showing this. ruclips.net/video/Hxu-QLF_d7g/видео.html
I just bought an axle to replace a broken one. Can the hangers be drilled through and bolted on? My old leafs had hangers bolted around the square stock. Can I drill right up through the frame and bolt on?
I'm curious too. Just thinking of loading it's pushing the springs nearly the same I would guess. Only big difference is lift profile, this method lowers the trailer bed I would guess about 6"?
@@motleypixel Yeah. I ultimately reinstalled my new axel the same way it was originally installed, which is under the springs. It is a square axel, so perhaps that's the difference? I have no idea.
Hi. Thank you so much for the video. Quick question. By looking through the wheel (without taking the wheel off) is there an easy way to tell if there is a brake system?
This is something we will do a video on in future. Here is a link to diagram for tandem axle spacing: eide7eqjasg.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Single-Tandem-Axle-Hanger-Kit-Spacing-Diagram-For-Double-Eye-Springs.jpg?lossy=1&w=2560&ssl=1
I may be wrong, but it looks like you welded the shorter mount in the front and swiveled off the taller in the rear. I believe that is the opposite of the graphic you shared. The leaf spring should have ended up being more parallel with the trailer deck.....
On the hangers there is a narrow one an wider one. The narrow one goes to rear of trailer with shackles and wider one to front. The spring only drops into the wider one on front and rear hanger requires shackles.
What isn't shown is that the tongue has to be square to the trailer and perpendicular to the center line of the trailer. It helps to have the trailer frame square and the hangers equal distances from the front of the trailer. You can't show that in a 1-2 min. video. Also, the measurements in your print are center to center in some places.
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Thank you for the video. The spacing diagram was very helpful!
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is the leaf spring shackle necessary?
Yes, I would recommend using shackles as it is part of the Suspension
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I have a 14 for trailer (deck length) . Where do you measure from for center of axle placement?
From tongue or from front of deck ?
Is it 60 percent of deck length or 60 percent of total trailer length ? Or is the 60 percent wrong in general . Thanks for any help ...
If I go by the 60 percent of deck length, it should be moved forward a few more inches but that isn't far from being center of deck .... I feel like it should be moved back a few inches ...
Typically you would do the 60% rule on the deck length, not on overall trailer length. So if you have a 14' deck you would measure from front of deck back about 8' 4" and that would be where you would center the axle. That would put about 5' 6" of deck behind axle. If it is a tandem axle trailer, same thing but you would center the center hanger for equalizer off of that measurement putting one axle in front of the 60% and one behind the 60%. There are many ways to calculate axle placement depending on trailer type and how weight is distributed. For most utility type trailer the 60/40 rule works just fine.
@johnsontrailerparts thank you for the info , I plan to make this a tandem axle trailer at some point but for now it will remain a single axle .
Thats where I have the axle at now but it just looked to far forward to me . I just wanted to be sure basically. I used the 60/40 rule back when I placed the axle .
Is there a reason why you didn't weld the front and back edges of the spring hangers to the frame as well? I am about to weld mine up and just want to make sure I do it correctly.
Hi, thanks for the question, we never recommend welding across frame tubing since it creates a weak point. A good solid weld on each side of the hangers is more then sufficient.
Our engineer for our trailer plans even recommends welding the hangers to flat stock and then welding that to the frame for even more strength. See our other video here showing this.
ruclips.net/video/Hxu-QLF_d7g/видео.html
@@johnsontrailerparts Makes sense to me! Thanks a bunch!
@@DIRTADDICT922 No problem
I just bought an axle to replace a broken one. Can the hangers be drilled through and bolted on? My old leafs had hangers bolted around the square stock. Can I drill right up through the frame and bolt on?
why is the axel between the spring and the frame? I have never seen this before this and another youtube video. Am I missing something?
I'm curious too. Just thinking of loading it's pushing the springs nearly the same I would guess. Only big difference is lift profile, this method lowers the trailer bed I would guess about 6"?
@@motleypixel Yeah. I ultimately reinstalled my new axel the same way it was originally installed, which is under the springs. It is a square axel, so perhaps that's the difference? I have no idea.
Hi. Thank you so much for the video. Quick question. By looking through the wheel (without taking the wheel off) is there an easy way to tell if there is a brake system?
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i would like how you see an tandem now!!!!!!
This is something we will do a video on in future. Here is a link to diagram for tandem axle spacing: eide7eqjasg.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Single-Tandem-Axle-Hanger-Kit-Spacing-Diagram-For-Double-Eye-Springs.jpg?lossy=1&w=2560&ssl=1
Great video! Nice and short.
Thanks!
I may be wrong, but it looks like you welded the shorter mount in the front and swiveled off the taller in the rear. I believe that is the opposite of the graphic you shared. The leaf spring should have ended up being more parallel with the trailer deck.....
On the hangers there is a narrow one an wider one. The narrow one goes to rear of trailer with shackles and wider one to front. The spring only drops into the wider one on front and rear hanger requires shackles.
What isn't shown is that the tongue has to be square to the trailer and perpendicular to the center line of the trailer. It helps to have the trailer frame square and the hangers equal distances from the front of the trailer. You can't show that in a 1-2 min. video. Also, the measurements in your print are center to center in some places.
After getting load u bolts will touch frame...😢
We have not had any issues with u-bolts touching frame
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