TSR2 Vs. TSR3 // Comparing the new Titleist TSR drivers Head to Head
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2022
- Today, Ian is comparing the new Titleist TSR2 vs TSR3. After enjoying both, Ian is trying to find out which is actually most suitable for his game.
The TSR2 is a “max” performance driver offering a combination of speed and stability. The Titleist TSR2 is slimmed down and ramped up. For players who make contact across the entire surface of the face, it combines Titleist's most significant CG shift with a new Multi-Plateau VFT face to boost speed across the face.
While the TSR3 provides speed and distance through precision tuning technologies such as SureFit Adjustable CG Track weighting. For players with a consistent impact location, the Titleist TSR3 is your ticket to maximum driving performance.
Each of these models provide distinct performance options for a variety of players.
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Nice! Also would be very interesting to see the TSI4 vs TSR4 you were talking about at the end (or the other TSI's vs TSR's head to head)
Loving the comparison.. I can’t wait to receive ordered a TSR3 that I got fitted into. 🙌🏻
Thank you guys I'm deciding between these two, and great comparison, I'd like to add ever since you got together with Martin and he told you you were a little to static which you knew, I gotta say your swing looks incredible, much more athletic, you look like everything working really nice together, just my 2 cents , I'd take anyone of those drives but of course the better you are the more you expect, I love the high toe ,, they just get out there with distance,, Thanks again guys great content, !!
I can't believe how much going from TSi2 to TSR3 has done for me. I was already getting about 10 yds more carry with the TSR2 but I couldn't find the center of the head as well. TSR3 gives me similar carry on avg except when I hit it on the screws: then it's another 8-10 yds for me. I'm not long and I rely on roll, but 225 avg carry to 238 with the occasion 245-250 is huge for me. What a milestone for Titleist! And the Tensei 1K 65 plays just like my Hzrdus Yellow HC 63g but slightly smoother. Easily interchangeable! Life is good! Thanks for the video gents!
Very good video on these new drivers. I’m curious: is the TSR3 driver club face taller than the TSR2?
Excellent test Ian. Would love to see a mid handicapper and scratch test these.
I got fitted, and I was dead set walking in that I wanted a TSR3 but I ended up leaving with the TSR2. My previous gamer was the cobra radspeed, and the difference in forgiveness is insane. I hit a terrible shot out the toe and it ended up going like 284 meters which is like 310 yards ish and the fitter was like yeah good shot lad, and I was like no that was so far out the toe, and the gc quad shows that it was literally 20mm out to the toe😂😂.
Spin numbers stayed consistent and I got tonnes of distance. I tried the TSR3 and just didn’t get as much forgiveness and distance on mis hits. I’m not the best driver player so I just thought why don’t I take more consistency than ego this time. I think it’ll work out great. I tried all the shafts on offer like the tour ad stuff but I couldn’t quite get the feel of them. I ended up going with my usual shaft: hzrdus black (their new rendition this year). Great driver, nothing else like it I think currently.
Went to get fitted for a TSR, thinking I'd get the 3 and ended up ordering the 2. Cannot wait for it to arrive next month.
Great swings Ian much improved for sure......Totally agree the TSR2 in my opinion is the best looking driver on the market, now i just need to save some serious bucks to get it with the autoflex setup
bought the tsr3 without looking at the tsr2. i really like the look of the tsr2 vs tsi2. the tsr3 seems forgiving enough im not regretting my quick non fitting purchase, but as a 2 cap i could definitely play either.
My new TSR3 has completely transformed my tee game. Instead of everything going high left and hanging on for dear life - I'm ripping mid-flight low spin cuts with more control than I've ever had. 44.5" 1K Black 75 Stiff, C1 setting, +6 gram weight in T1.
It came out 2 days ago
@@MrAhuraMazda I received mine last Wednesday and have played 3 rounds with it. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I'm thrilled so far haha
After hearing you mention about putting the weight in the back is there any video about moving weight around on driver to achieve different goals. Have a Radspeed driver for almost 2 years ago but never occured i can move weights around. Don't know what will do what
Great video boys. My TSi hung right there with TSR 3, and I actually spun TSR 4 a touch more (at around 181 ball speed, which kinda took me by surprise, even though the Titleist rep said it’s uncommon, but not unheard of). Either way, Titleist has absolutely killed it with these last 2 releases. They’re top dog in the driver market at the moment
You don’t have 181 ball speed lol
Any thoughts on forgiveness high to low on the clubface with these 2 compared to each other & main competition? Both certainly better then my M5 especially forgiveness wise - how much better would you say they would be to the M5? Thx
The first strike with the TSR3 👌🏼
4:04
I got fitted for the tsr2 with a heavier weight in the back. I found it much easier to feel where the club us during my swing. Ended up going 9° lofted all the way up to 10.5°. The lower loft gave me better ball speed and I like the closed look at address as it reminds me to get hands forward
Just recently bought the TSR3 with stock Tensei 1k black 65x shaft and absolutely love it! Combination of looks, feel, sound, and forgiveness it’s perfect! Must say I’m quite impressed with the stock shaft as well, feels great. Prior I was hitting the Stealth 2 plus and i must say it was very disappointing!
Looking forward to giving these a try. I was hoping to see Mike hit a few.
Currently playing R3
How's the middle of the clubface feel? Rare. I felt that in my soul
Yep, I got a chuckle out of that as well.
I was hoping I wasn’t the only one 😂
Haven’t used my driver all year zero control. I hit my 3 wood 240-250. Hoping I add 20 yards with control after buying this driver. Just need to figure out the best adjustment for my draw.
Considering going into the TSR3 from rogue triple diamond. Thoughts?
It would be nice to see footage from behind the ball with clubs when you describe them as well. Other then that i have nothing more to wish for 🙂
I would love to know what shafts are in those heads when you are testing them
Played the 3 model for a few generations of Titleist drivers and this year have gone to the TSR2. Paired with a Tour AD XC it has been a monster for me. It's straight, very reliable and really long
I had similar results with same shaft. Looking forward for my delivery day. Feel like I could just do drew cooper swings with more forgiving head 😂
Love the lower spin of the TSr3. On the range, it was launching a bit low for me but it's perfect on course because I tee it up high. If you are battling high spin, check it out along with the Ventus TR line.
Would love to see a TSR vs ZX comparison. I'm in the market and will probably use Golftec to fit me as I've never had the experience.
Currently gaming the TSi4 with a Tensei AV White 65. Would like to see the TSR4 with a Tensei Black 1k 65.
What advise/ tips can you give for when you're getting fitted and your swing doesn't feel right. Thanks.
I’d reschedule, Get things in check. I had a fitting in January and my swing was terrible, it was a struggle and I felt bad for the fitter and felt like I didn’t get as much out of the fitting
Love to see the TSR 4 test and switch the weights to set it up as the 3.5 as they say.
Tsr4 sounds awful
Honestly had stealth plus. Tried TSR3, and was also fitted into Kaili white 60X, and wow. Left side miss is negated. And I attribute it all to being able to set up with bulge and roll over twist face. Love it!
So did you end up with stealth or TSR?
@@BuffaloBarber24 TSR3. Stealth was all over the place and a little slower. TSR was just the easiest choice I’ve ever had in a fitting.
TSR = TaylorMade Stealth Replacement
@@axehole25 did you try the stealth 2 (not the plus)? - Also, what’s your SS? I’m trying to decide between S or XS with the Kai’li White. Swung it a couple times and the stuff felt really whippy for a stiff shaft.
@@BuffaloBarber24 I tried the stealth 2 plus as well. The stealth 2 plus felt exactly like the first one. Misses and everything felt the exact same. If you are coming from stealth there is absolutely zero reason to change within TM. My SS is 108 stock and very top end is 112.
@@axehole25 I mean the regular version of the stealth 2.0. Not the original stealth. The 2.0 standard. Not the plus. I wonder if you would have liked that one better.
Tried both today & tsr2 best for me - shame it was with the graphite design ad upgrade though!🙈
i saw a 4mph increase in ball speed and 12y increase in carry with tsr3 vs tsi2 (gamer). 400rpm less spin as well.
TSR2 was great for me coming from the TSi3. Better launch and more consistent direction. Similar spin but all in its straighter, more friendly and 5-10 yards further carry. Love it
Hey Tony I’m thinking of jumping from a TSI3 to a TSR2. Playing a 9 degree TSI3 with evenflo T1100 white 65x. Do you think the TSR2 is a good happy medium for ball speed and forgiving compared to the new TSR3? Thanks
@@cantill2 Hi, I tried both the 2 and 3 in my fitting but the 2 gave me better launch and carry, upping my overall distance and accuracy. Loved my TSi3 but I probably always needed something more forgiving but didn't like the shape of the old 2. New 2 is much, much nicer. I had a GD XC stiff shaft in my old TSi3 and was fitted into the Hzrdus 4G for the TSR. Tried the GD UB that replaced the XC in the premium range and it felt very loose in comparison (something the fitter agreed with). Will play around with both in the TSR before settling. Also got the TSR3 3 wood....wow, this is money off the deck and tee. Big improvement on the old 3. Not sure if that helps but hope it does.
I would love to see TSR4 vs TSI4 vs Stealth Plus :)
With all these new drivers, high on the head is where you want to hit it. Backspin drops under 2K, producing a significant distance increase. And the TSRs don't seem to lose a lot of ball speed on toe strikes...which is my typical miss.
I tried both of these this past weekend and was surprised that that both models had tangible improvements over the prior models. Here were my main takeaways. 1. TSR2 is a vast visual improvement over TSi2. Ian and Mike note this in the video but if you have can see them side by side you can really appreciate what was done to improve the visuals. I tried it and was tempted given how easy it was to hit. 2. Bigger surprise was that the TSR3 actually improved on TSi3 (which was my prior gamer). Flight windows were similar on launch monitor but was impressed with the results on my "miss" shots - for me a high toe shot. 3. Was hard to pick between the two given that results were similar on the launch monitor. Ultimately went with TSR3 since I felt like I had an easier time hitting different shaped shots. If I knew I was not going to be playing very often I would be tempted to go with the TSR2 given how confidence inspiring it is at address. Anyway, finding a new driver late in the season was a welcome surprise. The new Ventus TR Blue shaft I chose was nice as well...
How elongated is the TSR2 , I game the. Cobra LTDX and absolutely love the head shape , I seen the TSR2 and TSR3 side by side and the TSR2 was a fair bit longer front to back , thoughts please
@@wnfakind9197 TSR2 is definitely longer than TSR3, but it does not appear as long as the Tsi2 model - which was a bit off-putting to me previously. Not sure how they created that illusion, but I do prefer the newer version aesthetically.
@@stevet.7927 I haven’t seen the tsi3 so wouldn’t know the difference but have you seen the cobra LTDx that’s what I now can you compare the TSR2 to that ?
I decided on the TSR3 ...I strike center or a few mm toe, never heal. I'm right handed and my natural shot is high draw with my bad miss in left going left. Thought if I could move the weight toward the toe and maybe flatten the lie a bit I could have a driver that I will be an asset instead of score killer when my bad miss shows up. Although I've had some decent sim numbers with Stealth and Rouge ST, I haven't had a solid on course performing driver since M5.... Hope this is the one when I hit the course.
for a guy who tends to hit a bit around the face, I am guessing TSR2 is the way to go?
Does the elongated shape of the TSR2 not bother you ? I don’t care if I hit it a fair bit better then TSR3 I’d hate looking down at the TSR2 lol unless I’m wrong and it’s not to elongated any comparison to the LTDX head shape wise ?
Definitely a nicer shape in R2 not as elongated as before!!
I'm a "seasoned citizen" but still carry a 6 handicap. I've been playing a TS1 (for which I was fitted) for a few years now and I'm curious if you have any information on whether Titleist will be introducing a TSR1 and if so when it might be coming out. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
They have said spring.
I'm sure you could fit into TRs2 very well with the right shaft as a 6 hcp. Maybe a perfect fit with the right ball as well.
@@lkae4 I actually just went through a fitting with Titleist and was fit into a TSR2 with a Hzrdus Red CB shaft. It works great! Consistent distance and most importantly very tight dispersion. Just finished 2d in my flight in our club champion this past weekend so I'd say this driver is just what the doctor ordered.
I found the TSR2 a bit vague in that I couldn't feel where the middle of the face was - it was an immediately different feel once I tried the TSR3 head with weight sleave slightly in the Toe. I also feel the head would benefit by adding a touch of internal weight.
The slider weight can be swapped out for a heavier weight by your golf shop.
I have been looking for distance gain over my G425 max and went to demo these new TSR drivers and others at my local course. The new TSR driver BLEW AWAY the others. I tried the G425 LST to stay in the Ping family and saw marginal improvements of about 5-8 yards. I tried Cobra and Callaway but couldn’t get along with them. Then jumped to TSR3 and saw a 10-12 yard improvement over LST! I tried TSR2 and was about 4 yards shorter than the TSR3, but similar ball speed and good control. I scheduled a fitting to get a new TSR3 and dial it in for myself and take the Ping out of the bag 👍🏽
Did you like the tsr2 or 3?
@@BuffaloBarber24 I liked the tsr3 better and have it in the bag now. Tsr2 was forgiving and pretty consistent, but the control wasn’t enough of a difference compared to the extra ball speed I had with tsr3. The adjustability of tsr3 also made a difference for me and now I see comparable dispersion/forgiveness to tsr2. FWIW, I recently went and tried tsr2 against g430 max in same loft on the Toptracer at my range. I hit g430 out of the middle and was consistently heel striking tsr2, but tsr2 was about 3-5mph on measured ball speed, but it’s also Toptracer and not a Trackman/gcquad
Curious what makes the tsr 2 sound different than the tsr3 and likewise the tsi2 vs tsi3. Most say the 3 model sounds better.
COG
Can you please do some driver tests with stock shaft options? Most people don't spend $300 on a shaft...
Yep, gotta echo that comment. Most people aren't going to spend $800 on a driver.
yeah it would be nice. 2 separate videos one with high end aftermarket shafts and one with stock
He is comparing the heads Forgiveness. Launch. Spin rates. He uses his “gamer” shaft on these tests so there is a consistent base line.
Why? It doesn’t help showcase the clubs when the the spin is off or sloppy dispersions with shafts that don’t work for Ian. Also most manufacturers offer several stock shaft offerings so testing a stock option isn’t front to cover what you’re looking for. Also, every swing will produce unique numbers, and no two shafts same launch and feel.
If you get fit properly, there’s a good chance you’ll find a stock option that will work. Most manufacturers offer enough no-upcharge shafts that cover most players.
If you want to compare a driver head to another you want everything else to stay the same. A premium shaft is going to be more consistent and highlight the actual differences of the heads better. If he used a stock shaft he wouldn't know if it was the shaft or head causing the difference.
Hi guys. I'm low on spin. Tried multiple different shafts only one that seems to work kuro kage silver regular flex but I'm 155-164mph(strike dependant) my attack angle around 4-5 up. In to out path around 2 club speed 106-110mph. Tried the stealth tsr2 cobra and rogue all seem to be the same on spin 1800 on good contact and dive bombers on high toe. Any help on shaft options.
Also multiple different shafts. Was at a fitting today and even the fitter was a little confused as to what to offer me
From my experience, as I am a low spinner off the driver, the shaft isn't going to solve your issue. You described shots that I used to struggle with.
Club head will impact spin the most and also your path. How in to out are you?
@@ianporzondek4414 👋 0-3 in to out from my last fitting session maybe I'll just swing harder and capitalise on the low spin lol.
@@nellynelson9387 yea, that's not that into out at all
Was hoping to make a good deal on this year's "end of season sale" of drivers but nothing could really beat my M1 gamer. The Tsi3 was solid in terms conistency but ball speed lower compared to other, the Tsr3 looks really intriguing - but certainly a proper fitting is required to achieve full potential!
Do we have a TSi3 vs TSr3 head to head video coming up?
Don’t wait for the video just upgrade. 😂
@@markushayes you buying? Sure! 😂
I’d be interested to know if the 2 of you will actually keep these in your bags, or will go back to your existing gamers. Also there’ll be a feast of new driver launches in a few months time to consider. I haven’t played a Titleist driver since the 910 D2, which I ended up with after going to be fitted for a TM driver, now playing a Stealth. Having played mostly TM drivers for the last 10 years I may spread my net a bit further next time. Shame the shafts aren’t interchangeable, as I’m loving a Ventus Red Velocore atm.
Recently transitioned from my TSi3 to TSR3. Both are ball speed monsters. Super stable with the TSR yielding a bit more clubhead speed with less effort. 💪💪💪👍🙏🙏💯💯🔥🔥🙌
1:37 Ian sounds like an angry boss
Why no TSR-1 ??
I think we'll see a 2 head sub zero in next model cycle
Is the Mac Boucher partnership over alredy?
No not at all. Mac travels a ton so we’re limited to how much time we have with him. Fingers crossed he’s back in town soon.
You could set the lie angle flatter in the 2.
TSR4 as much a niche product as TSI4?
According to Titleist 5% PGA pros played TSI4 and 10% will play the TSR4
Haven’t seen the other lefty. Where art thou lefty?
Can i buy Tsr3 just the head
3:12 was that a fart?
Like Ian nothing between 2 and 3 in the fitting but the TSR3 with the weight in the toe just made it more predictable and consistent
A little high on the head…..313 yards.
tour edge is a better driver!!
I don’t even think the great folks at Tour Edge believe that their driver is better than TSr.
@@clubchampionmedia play with boys that are half my age with the titleist driver, they arent outdriving me but they are out spending me on their purchases and not getting your results.
The test is worth nothing if you move the weight to the toe on the 3! The weight is in the center of the 2 you want the clubs to show the difference you should have set the 3 center... You guys are pros! Can't compare clubs that are set different