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The main issue with curved displays to me is they're reliant on staying in the perfect sweetspot. I like to sit up close to the screen when gaming and lean back, reclining my chair when doing things like watching RUclips. Plus I'm a bit of a spaz and can't sit still for more than a few minutes. If you leave that sweetspot you also get warping of the image which can also be annoying and for some even nauseating. I mean, I never had issues with 3D TVs and displays yet I hear people say it all the time.
That's an aspect I didn't really think about. I lean closer because my vision is bad and sometimes to snipe pixels at long range with iron sights in games, I just need to. If the curve forces a sweetspot, it really doesn't take that use-case into account.
I don't really get what you mean, of course everything is always warped on a curved screen no matter what angle you sit at. It's warped in the shape of.. a curve. But that's kinda the point
If I recall curved monitors aren't ideal for competitive gaming due to the curvature distorting the player's fov which can in turn cause inconsistencies when playing at a high level. If you're a casual user, then having a curve monitor would be the better choice but if you want to play games semi competitively, choosing a flat monitor would be a safer option.
I've been flatscreen gaming for years, didnt like fovs above 85 because of the distortion effect but after gaming on the same size monitor but curved I can say I barely notice the disortion now and been cranking fov over 100.
I notice my eyes don’t get red from using the computer for hours. The curved screen prevented the red eyes as that was the only change that prevented it. Previously, I get red eyes after continuously using the PC for gaming more than 2 hours.
Monitors with a small curve are almost not noticeable whilst sitting in front of them but it helps keep the edges more visible during gameplay which is nice 😀 Many monitors has a to aggressive curve though
@@sogetsu60 I had an old samsung with a 1800R curve and really liked it, it broke 2 weeks ago. I decided to get the Odyssey G7 but was sceptical bout the agressive 1000R curve. But now i got to say I don't really notice a big difference anymore and like it. Would be cool though if we get flexible monitors in the future, where we can adjust the curve based on our likes.
Had to return my curved monitor because i couldnt get used to it giving me headaches because the straight lines just look off and slightly deformed to me. Maybe you get used to it eventually or some lucky people just don't notice it at all but it isnt for me.
All perspective content (both games and film) are projected onto flat planes, not curved. So technically you're seeing a warped image on curved displays. No idea how perceptible this error is, but it's possible that it bothers people! Games could theoretically do correct projection for a curved display... would be interesting to test 🤔
It pisses me off so much when people go "oh the ONLY reason for curved screens is because it isn't an IPS panel". Like yes, that is A REASON that they were developed (high resolution screens where you're closer means a greater viewing angle at the edges so you get washed out colors, etc), but there are a LOT of other benefits! Eye strain is the main benefit, it is proven with actual experimental studies that curved monitors reduce eye strain/fatigue. It increased the time required to have eye-fatigue/strain by a factor of 3. It's massive. I got a 1440p 27 inch curved display to replace by old ass 24 inch 1080p 10 year old monitor. It is amazing. When compared to a flat IPS panel I would choose a curved VA display any day for eye strain.
The problem with curved is that it solves only one dimension of curvature (section of a cylinder). It needs to be spherical (section of a sphere) for each pixel to be equidistant from your eyes. That's why the screen seems pinched in the middle vs the corners on a curved monitor. Therefore, it's a half-baked solution which, after owning two of them, got really annoying to me to deal with as a coder. I went back to flat monitors.
I was about to say something about the clickbait, but you mentioned the OLED difference, so I'll just see myself out with a comment for the algorithm. lol. I don't like curved because it made my eye strain go up to untenable levels.
curved displays are aaaawesome. but the 'shrinking' that goes on at the middle of the screen (because of parralax) should be addressed. the curved displays should be curved in both horizontal and vertical.
I have both.Curved monitors only make sense if you're buying a screen 34 inches or larger. For 27-32 inch screens they make very little sense, and they're very much INFERIOR in every meaningful way to a quality IPS or OLED panel that's flat. Color accuracy is more consistent on flat panels, and the viewing angle as well. Oh, and about 90% of all curved monitors on the market use inferior HVA panels.
I am a proud owner of the Alienware 34'' DWF. I love high end OLED monitors but a 49'' ultrawide just looks obnoxious to me in my opinion!!! Plus your GPU must take a huge hit running that resolution!
I used a g5 34 curved for 14 days, it caused me dizziness and motion sickness all day, I will go back to a flat monitor, because curved monitors are not for everyone.
I got a curved monitor it made me nauseous, 🤮 I tried really hard . Apparently people who get VR sickness wil have the same effect with a curved screen . It’s important to remember this , the longer you use the screen the larger this effect becomes
Got one of the best curved 240hrzinsane color. Returning it tomorrow I hate the curve wanted to plug in my old monitor after 8mins. It is not immersive at all.LG 34GS95QE 34-inch Ultragear OLED Curved Gaming Monitor WQHD 800R 240Hz 0.03ms DisplayHDR True Black 400 AMD FreeSync Premium Pro NVIDIA G-Sync HDMI 2.1 DisplayPort Tilt/Height/Swivel Stand Black
Just got the same one and I'm returning it tomorrow, if you haven't gotten a monitor yet the Samsung G80SB just released yesterday for around the same price and you get a 300$ gift card with it.
Problem with curved is not all shows or games fit the screen so like 25% of screen not being used I don’t get why they put majority of high end monitors curved really kills it
I prefer 3 x 28" 4k flat screens. The extra peripheral vision is more immersive in StarCitizen. My buddies 34" curved OLED screen looks really nice but the lack of width is immersion breaking for me.
This is all depending on the size monitor. The large the monitor the more pronounced the curve generally is. The Corsair flex is the only one that allows you to adjust the curve. For movies the curve is best at the center whereas a flat is beneficial for all angles. The curve will get in the way of you sit at a far angle. For gaming the curve is best up close allowing you to see content at the far edge clearly without any distortion or greyness compared to a large flat monitor even OLED.
@@oof7835 That's interesting. I see that HDTV being way overpriced compared to the c3 for what you get. Same 4k 120hz on a 16:9 for a crazy price over the existing c3 42" with the only main advantage of flexing. This tv also has no wall mount vesa holes. It also protrudes out quite a bit from the stand compared to the c3. I don't see this tv lasting much in the market compared to the c3.
Yeah it's simply people that are feeling mad that they have a flat monitor and dont understand optics. Though it looks like I will move from 240hz curved to the asus 480hz oled switching monitor in the next quarter.
I have the Alienware aw3423dw....not a bad monitor because I game on it...but go with the Samsung g8 oled. No one should have a monitor that can't be updated as the manufacturer comes out with better fixes for problems, and the Alienware aw3423dw dosent have this option.
This video came out at the perfect time because I was considering the 32” Samsung Odyssey Neo 7 curved monitor versus a 27” flat mini LED monitor. However, I plan to use the monitor for both Work and gaming, so how is the curved monitor for working with Excel spreadsheets or Word documents?
We have multiple cubicles at work with high end, 32 inch curved monitors that literally sit empty because no one likes to use a curved panel. I don't hate curved panels, but for work related purposes like Teams calls, or doing Excel work, they're inferior to a flat panel in my opinion. And read the studies, unless you're using a very large screen, it's a myth that you're eyes are taking advantage of the claimed benefits of a curved screen.
I'm actually fine with curve screen but I just couldn't find any monitor with curve screen at 16:9 aspect ratio bigger and 42in size. I just hate ultra wide curve.
Curved at 34 is the sweet spot I think. I tried the ultra wide and reverted back to 34. It’s just more practical unless you want to sim race or sim fly. It just comes down to what you want to play. I enjoy immersion and picture quality over FPS competitive games which require a smaller screen and high FPS. Curve is fine as long as the curve is right for the application it’s being used for.
For immersion maybe, but what if you're trying to play a competitive shooter? I am not 100% sure it affects aim, but there is no adoption at all of curved screens from top competitive players, so clearly the top comp players themselves seem to think so.
@@raptorhacker599 Only in games with small engagement distances, and even then 25 inches not 20. Have long engagement distances and the optimal screen size changes.
I suspect that many people avoid curved displays because their only experience with them was with a curved TV. At least this was my case, I knew curved TVs were a bad idea and I assumed the same is true for curved monitors. But when you take into account the different use cases of monitors and TVs, then curved monitors make sense.
not everyone uses their screen only for gaming. a PC Monitor has thousands of uses, most of use use it for productivity, work, chatting and many other activities aside from gaming.
Agreed. I love curves on my girls and monitors. Furthermore, my life will be at a better stage when Tim from Hardware Unboxed 1 day start recommending curved Monitors.
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The main issue with curved displays to me is they're reliant on staying in the perfect sweetspot. I like to sit up close to the screen when gaming and lean back, reclining my chair when doing things like watching RUclips. Plus I'm a bit of a spaz and can't sit still for more than a few minutes.
If you leave that sweetspot you also get warping of the image which can also be annoying and for some even nauseating. I mean, I never had issues with 3D TVs and displays yet I hear people say it all the time.
That's an aspect I didn't really think about. I lean closer because my vision is bad and sometimes to snipe pixels at long range with iron sights in games, I just need to. If the curve forces a sweetspot, it really doesn't take that use-case into account.
I don't really get what you mean, of course everything is always warped on a curved screen no matter what angle you sit at. It's warped in the shape of.. a curve. But that's kinda the point
If I recall curved monitors aren't ideal for competitive gaming due to the curvature distorting the player's fov which can in turn cause inconsistencies when playing at a high level. If you're a casual user, then having a curve monitor would be the better choice but if you want to play games semi competitively, choosing a flat monitor would be a safer option.
4k curved for RPGs, 1080p or 1440p 240 Hz (or as high as your cash allows) flat for competitive FPS 😎
@@cassusgames Yep, that's why I'm waiting on 1440p 240hz flat screens to come down in price.
I only play singleplayer games and occasionally coop, so I think a curved would serve me better.
The reason curved monitors were invented because they remove convex distortion. Think more deeply about it, it's simple.
I've been flatscreen gaming for years, didnt like fovs above 85 because of the distortion effect but after gaming on the same size monitor but curved I can say I barely notice the disortion now and been cranking fov over 100.
I notice my eyes don’t get red from using the computer for hours. The curved screen prevented the red eyes as that was the only change that prevented it. Previously, I get red eyes after continuously using the PC for gaming more than 2 hours.
Monitors with a small curve are almost not noticeable whilst sitting in front of them but it helps keep the edges more visible during gameplay which is nice 😀
Many monitors has a to aggressive curve though
Exactly. 1800R is decent, but 1000R distorts all gemometrical shapes way too much, making everything bad.
@@sogetsu60 I had an old samsung with a 1800R curve and really liked it, it broke 2 weeks ago. I decided to get the Odyssey G7 but was sceptical bout the agressive 1000R curve. But now i got to say I don't really notice a big difference anymore and like it. Would be cool though if we get flexible monitors in the future, where we can adjust the curve based on our likes.
@@NoMisZx Actually there already is one - ruclips.net/video/yd-MMDEbpx4/видео.html
@@NoMisZxI think you're onto something!😉
Had to return my curved monitor because i couldnt get used to it giving me headaches because the straight lines just look off and slightly deformed to me. Maybe you get used to it eventually or some lucky people just don't notice it at all but it isnt for me.
My wife didn't like curved before she met me
Yeah, bananas are better than pool cues for real games. Besides, the pockets are curved anyway. Take a look at a cross section view.
All perspective content (both games and film) are projected onto flat planes, not curved. So technically you're seeing a warped image on curved displays. No idea how perceptible this error is, but it's possible that it bothers people!
Games could theoretically do correct projection for a curved display... would be interesting to test 🤔
It pisses me off so much when people go "oh the ONLY reason for curved screens is because it isn't an IPS panel". Like yes, that is A REASON that they were developed (high resolution screens where you're closer means a greater viewing angle at the edges so you get washed out colors, etc), but there are a LOT of other benefits! Eye strain is the main benefit, it is proven with actual experimental studies that curved monitors reduce eye strain/fatigue. It increased the time required to have eye-fatigue/strain by a factor of 3. It's massive. I got a 1440p 27 inch curved display to replace by old ass 24 inch 1080p 10 year old monitor. It is amazing. When compared to a flat IPS panel I would choose a curved VA display any day for eye strain.
The problem with curved is that it solves only one dimension of curvature (section of a cylinder). It needs to be spherical (section of a sphere) for each pixel to be equidistant from your eyes. That's why the screen seems pinched in the middle vs the corners on a curved monitor. Therefore, it's a half-baked solution which, after owning two of them, got really annoying to me to deal with as a coder. I went back to flat monitors.
32" and greater, I prefer curved screen... 27" and lower, I prefer flat screen. Simple~ 😗
27 '' need curve for eyes...
The earth is flat and as a result our screens should be too!
don't forget the giant turtle attached to the back
I was about to say something about the clickbait, but you mentioned the OLED difference, so I'll just see myself out with a comment for the algorithm. lol. I don't like curved because it made my eye strain go up to untenable levels.
Well that's a subjective issue.
@@raptorhacker599 You know the difference between objective and subjective. Congratulations?
@x8jason8x As far as subjective goes, I believe the original comment WAS subjective. I apologize for being late to the party, btw.😁
@@gameygoat Yes... it was lol. Not exactly sure why you bring it up but better late than never?
Or something? 😂
Technically thats not subjective it's objective. It's a PERSONAL issue not a subjective issue. Objectively it strains his eyes. @@raptorhacker599
curved displays are aaaawesome. but the 'shrinking' that goes on at the middle of the screen (because of parralax) should be addressed. the curved displays should be curved in both horizontal and vertical.
After using a curved 32” I can never go back to flat. I sue very close though while gaming
I have both.Curved monitors only make sense if you're buying a screen 34 inches or larger. For 27-32 inch screens they make very little sense, and they're very much INFERIOR in every meaningful way to a quality IPS or OLED panel that's flat. Color accuracy is more consistent on flat panels, and the viewing angle as well. Oh, and about 90% of all curved monitors on the market use inferior HVA panels.
Colour is way better on VA
I am a proud owner of the Alienware 34'' DWF. I love high end OLED monitors but a 49'' ultrawide just looks obnoxious to me in my opinion!!! Plus your GPU must take a huge hit running that resolution!
I used a g5 34 curved for 14 days, it caused me dizziness and motion sickness all day, I will go back to a flat monitor, because curved monitors are not for everyone.
I like a subtle curve for larger monitors, but for 27 inches it's not necessary imo.
Yes it is.
I prefer it over a 27 inch flat screen. The corners are big plus on the curved in my opinion.
Even on a 24” it is, it’s so much better
I think you’ve pushed me into buying an oled monitor 😂 the vignetting is gonna do my head in now 😢
I like curved screens on ultrawides but not on any other screen ratio.
I got a curved monitor it made me nauseous, 🤮 I tried really hard . Apparently people who get VR sickness wil have the same effect with a curved screen . It’s important to remember this , the longer you use the screen the larger this effect becomes
I do professional cad work on a 1800r ultrawide and have no problems
I was using 32 1800r curved monitor for almost 10 years and now I swiched to flat and I really miss the curve.
Got one of the best curved 240hrzinsane color. Returning it tomorrow I hate the curve wanted to plug in my old monitor after 8mins. It is not immersive at all.LG 34GS95QE 34-inch Ultragear OLED Curved Gaming Monitor WQHD 800R 240Hz 0.03ms DisplayHDR True Black 400 AMD FreeSync Premium Pro NVIDIA G-Sync HDMI 2.1 DisplayPort Tilt/Height/Swivel Stand Black
Just got the same one and I'm returning it tomorrow, if you haven't gotten a monitor yet the Samsung G80SB just released yesterday for around the same price and you get a 300$ gift card with it.
I like my 16:9s to be flat and my 21:9s to be curved.
I love the 1000 curvature of mine. And I wish it was curvier.
Imagine only having 1 monitor. smh
Almost all curved monitors are VA panels and most have awful ghosting issues especially the ones that are more affordable.
Most Mini-led monitors use VA, but IPS is definitely better when it comes to viewing angles
Problem with curved is not all shows or games fit the screen so like 25% of screen not being used I don’t get why they put majority of high end monitors curved really kills it
I prefer 3 x 28" 4k flat screens. The extra peripheral vision is more immersive in StarCitizen.
My buddies 34" curved OLED screen looks really nice but the lack of width is immersion breaking for me.
Just get a spaceship at this point, bro.
This is all depending on the size monitor. The large the monitor the more pronounced the curve generally is. The Corsair flex is the only one that allows you to adjust the curve.
For movies the curve is best at the center whereas a flat is beneficial for all angles. The curve will get in the way of you sit at a far angle.
For gaming the curve is best up close allowing you to see content at the far edge clearly without any distortion or greyness compared to a large flat monitor even OLED.
No the "LG oled flex" also allows you to adjust the curve
@@oof7835
That's interesting. I see that HDTV being way overpriced compared to the c3 for what you get. Same 4k 120hz on a 16:9 for a crazy price over the existing c3 42" with the only main advantage of flexing. This tv also has no wall mount vesa holes. It also protrudes out quite a bit from the stand compared to the c3.
I don't see this tv lasting much in the market compared to the c3.
I'm sat looking at my Samsung Odyssey Ark 55" and it's heaven! 😂😂
C&C Remastered on it is a dream!!
Yeah it's simply people that are feeling mad that they have a flat monitor and dont understand optics. Though it looks like I will move from 240hz curved to the asus 480hz oled switching monitor in the next quarter.
it picks up SIGNIFCANTLY more light sources and reflections
True 👍
Yeah in some cases it makes it nearly impossible to fully get rid of reflections and some are magnified to the center of the screen.
What about wanted to stream and using a curved ultrawide. Is this going to be a problem for the stream output? I would just want to output 1080p60fps
yes if ur playing in 21:9 its going to be that for the output on stream. u can get 16:9 and also curved its just not ultrawide like u said
I do not plan to buy another LCD or LED monitor, so I'm still going to continue to not use a curved display when I do go to OLED.
I have the Alienware aw3423dw....not a bad monitor because I game on it...but go with the Samsung g8 oled. No one should have a monitor that can't be updated as the manufacturer comes out with better fixes for problems, and the Alienware aw3423dw dosent have this option.
aw3423dwf does indeed support firmware updates unlike the aw3423dw. Plus dwf is cheaper too.
Dwf model allows updates fyi.
@@AlanMane gotcha...I have the dw...and not the dwf...
Agreed. I have two of these monitors and luckily the manufacture date is new enough to have the latest firmware.
@@genejones7902 same way with mine. I was lucky enough to get the most updated model.
This video came out at the perfect time because I was considering the 32” Samsung Odyssey Neo 7 curved monitor versus a 27” flat mini LED monitor. However, I plan to use the monitor for both Work and gaming, so how is the curved monitor for working with Excel spreadsheets or Word documents?
This channel is just a collection of awful takes and clickbait titles. It's mostly safe to just do the opposite of everything he recommends.
It's very easy to get used to. I both work and game on the LG 45 inch R800 curved.
I am Software developer.
We have multiple cubicles at work with high end, 32 inch curved monitors that literally sit empty because no one likes to use a curved panel. I don't hate curved panels, but for work related purposes like Teams calls, or doing Excel work, they're inferior to a flat panel in my opinion. And read the studies, unless you're using a very large screen, it's a myth that you're eyes are taking advantage of the claimed benefits of a curved screen.
I've done a lot of cad work, and it makes no difference.
i just cant stanf black bars on curved ultrawides and the fact that all older games will have black bars
Understandable.
Just like curvy women are better than flat ones.
Are you saying flat isn't justice!?
@@Skylancer727 Only a very "straight" justice. 😎
@@redheadsilver8041you are right bro🐍😂😂
I'm actually fine with curve screen but I just couldn't find any monitor with curve screen at 16:9 aspect ratio bigger and 42in size. I just hate ultra wide curve.
2:03 What’s that for a OLED RUclips video?
I bought a msi curved monitor. Got really sick and a bad headache after first time using it.
your cat jump scared me!!
I've hit crazy kovaaks high's with my msi curved vs an older acer both 170hz and 165hz
curved monitor can bother too people that use the monitor for productivity apps
This video made me switch over. Waiting for my new curved monitor.
Curved at 34 is the sweet spot I think. I tried the ultra wide and reverted back to 34. It’s just more practical unless you want to sim race or sim fly. It just comes down to what you want to play. I enjoy immersion and picture quality over FPS competitive games which require a smaller screen and high FPS. Curve is fine as long as the curve is right for the application it’s being used for.
Yeah 27-34" is the best if you want to be competitive i'd gett the 27" for immersion/single player 34". Also ultrawide format with curved is amazing.
Sim people should use VR
for 16:9 i don't see the benefit but love it for 32:9
We gamers, also work!. A curved screen is not great for excel!.
This curve hyped is nonesense..
Only cater for streamers or students
I do excel a couple of hours everyday on my 34" curved VA. No issues. And I play GTA and Forza. Sooo great... But yeah, to each their own, I guess.
need help, is there's a monitor that has 4k oled 120hz or more? and small one don't tell me lg c2
there isn't
@@C0BEX thanks🌚💔
What is that samsung monitor? at 3:31
Oddysey g7 I think
For immersion maybe, but what if you're trying to play a competitive shooter?
I am not 100% sure it affects aim, but there is no adoption at all of curved screens from top competitive players, so clearly the top comp players themselves seem to think so.
top comp players use 20 inch monitors.
nope, 24-25 inch@@raptorhacker599
@@raptorhacker599 Only in games with small engagement distances, and even then 25 inches not 20. Have long engagement distances and the optimal screen size changes.
I suspect that many people avoid curved displays because their only experience with them was with a curved TV. At least this was my case, I knew curved TVs were a bad idea and I assumed the same is true for curved monitors. But when you take into account the different use cases of monitors and TVs, then curved monitors make sense.
Helpful, but I am not a "fella".
not everyone uses their screen only for gaming. a PC Monitor has thousands of uses, most of use use it for productivity, work, chatting and many other activities aside from gaming.
I don't even have a personal preference, really. I game with my wife so flat screen suit the task better
But curved screens are so pretty.
aww the haters r hating
It gave me a headache
counterpoint: VA=bad
I think flat is good upto 24 inches, from 27 inches on the curve wins out.
No, you don't even take advantage of the curve in the monitor until you're well beyond 32 inches. Read the studies.
Curved is best ever
most are VA pannels and VA pannels are horrible
For me, 1000R is too much, but 1500, 1800R, no big deal at all
curved is horrible.
Flat screen to my grave.💯
Agreed. I love curves on my girls and monitors. Furthermore, my life will be at a better stage when Tim from Hardware Unboxed 1 day start recommending curved Monitors.