I got raped at gunpoint at a very young age and I would have rather do this kind of a process than what ended up happening in court. Rape isn't really distinct from other forms of violence. I think people still view it as sex and therefore put it in either a more awkward category or in a category that makes it more serious than even murder, but it's just another form of violence. Part of the reason I know this is because my rapist told me about the abuse he was facing while he had the gun pointed at me but before he raped me. He needed healing and, because he didn't get it, he acted out and raped me. What made it so that I could heal was that I forgave him and it made it a lot easier to forgive him because of all the stuff he told me before he raped me. What he did to me was terribly wrong and his past abuse is not an excuse for what he did, but I think he had a chance to turn his life around, especially considering how young he also was. Instead, I saw him a couple of times on the streets as a homeless person and then I never saw him again. Who knows how much he could have turned his life around and I was able to get past the incident and have a chance in my life because I was able to forgive him. I don't think we should underestimate the benefits to the victim of being able to see the person who did something so terrible to them as a human being instead of a monster. Whenever we allow ourselves to see someone else as "the other," we will almost certainly despise them and hatred in one's heart only destroys oneself.
I just found your comment, and thank you so much for sharing your experience. Your perspective is very inspiring to me, it seems to me as a truly interesting point for reform
interesting conversation. it's what you get with unregulated capitalism, no incentive to make anything better, just build gated communities so we don't have to deal with the oppressive society that it creates.
The ''monstrous others,...not quite human the way we are, from whom we must be protected'' are NOT imagined. Unfortunately, they're not in prison, they're in the US government.
Fascinating topic and interesting, intelligent discussion ladies, thank you. Very impressed with Danielle's unapologetic intellect, rationale, and candor. Nice. This is why I watch Democracy Now!
I fully agree with you Ms. Danielle Sered......I surely will buy your book during my visit to the USA. I think you are a very bright woman and a person with a very high social and human conscious.
Ok this women has good intentions. But she lacks clarity of thought. She is doing the unicorns and rainbows, and empathy and compassion will get through. I hope? No as I posted before this comment. First you need to change the whole entirety of the system. First we need to abolish the fantasy of the mythical merit system too many believe to be a fact. When every evidence show the exact opposite. 2nd we need to correct what success and aspirations ARE. 3rd we need to have the most accurate peer reviewed education system and bluntly honest history. 4th we need to have full access to as many aspirations and dreams for all. 5 we need controls on predatory criminals operators getting into elected & official government positions. As well as strong regulations on code of ethics and conduct of business, absolutely no monopolies. These are but a few of the things that need to take place. To curb violence. Prisons are nessary, but how they are run and built is primary. For instance. Why have cells? Why not open aired walled prisons with dorms. Why not supply the inside the wall with plots for growing food. That the prisoners must maintain to grow their food. Of course offer training to do this. Also give them buildings to make their own clothing and other necessities they will need. Give them the ability to produce products for their own use and to sell to the outside. This way they learn skills, and help pay for their time in prison and get money for when they get out. These would be actual solutions that would do a world of good on multiple ways for the prisoners.
All of that sounds expensive and unnecessary. The point of all this should be, how do we make people more reflective, conscious, and remorseful? Prison does and will not allow for any of those things.
This is total BS. How about you stop blatant racism of targeting BLACK people for prison and mass incarceration? Does that provide enough clarity of thought. I guarantee you if the same share of White men were getting incarcerated, the prison system would be looked at as the problem not a solution.
We can absolutely do better. We can change our minds to see people who commit crimes as human beings. Why did they commit that crime? Maybe if we can figure out how to heal society, and treat those who hurt us with love instead of fear, we won't need to build so many walls lined with razor wire.
I would never suggest people who have done wrong should not be punished. I only believe that the punishments we have now are not effective, and that maybe the society we live in drives people to do things they would not otherwise choose to do. I am very aware it is a complicated subject that can't be simplified into some poetic words on RUclips. But I stand by my previous statements. We will find peace, if we look for it even where we are afraid to go. @Dr. Edward Morbius
@Dr. Edward Morbius Well, what the Fuck you waiting for then?? I'm pretty sure you can deal with the lawsuits from his/her friends and close family members. Oh wait, you don't give a shit.....lets just shoot them too eh?? *Facepalm*
I'm down for making all drugs legal and regulated as a public health issue not a criminal one. But if you shoot someone or attack someone or do anything to harm another person physically, thats it you go to jail for a long time. I don't care what the background of the assailant is.
She has a very good point that if prisons worked, the U.S. would necessarily be the safest country in the world. But we're not. So the notion that a violent criminal belongs in prison is vengeful, not productive. One definition of "justice" is "conformity to truth, fact, or reason," and the truth is that prisons increase the likelihood of more violent crimes in the future. Do we really want a justice system based in vengeance rather than truth?
@@jameswatson9338 Tell it to the victims you. Seriously I want you to go to Prince Georges county, and talk to the family of Nia Owens and explain to them your grand plan to bring truth and justice to society. That's why the fellas need to be released from prison. Cuz feelings and stuff.
I respect your right to have the opinions you have. But this fantasy is going to get people killed. Now like I said make drugs legal. But don't be so quick to think you know why people are locked up.
Also America is one of the safest places on the planet. Not the chocolate cities of course. Baltimore and Chicago are hell holes. But the rest of the country is incredibly safe.
@@VVershCSIV As this interview mentioned multiple times, 90% of crime victims and their families prefer the option of not making a dangerous person more dangerous by putting them in prison. The factual outcome matters more than personal feelings, and the fact is that prison doesn't work. The real fantasy is that taking someone away for awhile and putting them in a horrible place with no outlet for development is somehow going to fix them.
I don't real like Danelles narrative of what must happen for police reform. POLICE can change with out a complicated understanding of that particular opinion. Being aware as she described would be great but not conditional to "police reform" .......... she brings up a lot of issues that DO need to be addressed, Thank you for that
Because they are VERY CONCERNED with LOOSING the CONTROL they have over our American Government! Can you imagine our President going to Israel with their Congress, to talk about PEACE with the Palestinan's? Oh hell no! But our Republican Controlled Houses ALLOWED Netanyahu to DISRESPECT us this way .......... TWICE!
yes...let's base our justice system based on what indeginous people in small communities did hundreds of years ago to a country over 300 million people
This woman is a hypocrite who is she Lord of fries you look to rehabilitation everybody black man gets stuck with a lot of sexual assault cases that are sexual assault cases
* "We end today's show with criminal justice reform and the fight to end mass-incarceration." (Lie, there is no fight). 0:02 * "Criminal justice reform gained momentum in recent years with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates vowing to take on the issue (Corey Booker's proposal is Next Step, that's it.) * "A number of states are tackling everything from cash bail to sentencing reform." (It's not comprehensive it's piecemeal. Again, Cory Booker made one national proposal.) * "These efforts have focused almost entirely on nonviolent drug offenses while side-stepping the core issue of America's addiction to incarceration - violence". (Wow. Lie. Drugs.) 0:23 * "More than half of those imprisoned have been convicted of violent crime." (That's true, street crime is drug crime. 12-years olds know this.) * "Must reckon with violent crime. And come up radically new ways to address it." (Again, street crime is drug crime. 12-years olds know this.) " "There's no path to ending mass-incarceration that doesn't include addressing violence. (Must address drugs. The violence comes from drugs.) 2:40 * "They wouldn't say petty theft and they wouldn't say drug possession, they would say crimes of violence. (You're not making the connection. Violence comes from drugs.) 4:02 * "Before the level of violence in Chicago went through the roof, before the crack epidemic, before mass-incarceration. (Exactly. That's the correct connection.) 4:37 * "The four core drivers of violence are shame, isolation, exposure to violence, and an inability to meet one's economic needs. (Complete lie. Street violence = drug violence.) 5:35 * "The four core features of prison are shame, isolation, exposure to violence, and an inability to meet one's economic needs. (Complete lie. Drugs put people in prison.) *Summary: Danielle Sered's goal is to trick the public from making the connection between drugs and street violence. She is undermining the need for universal drug decriminalization with drug clinics, as in Portugal, Norway, and Urguay, and replacing it with classic dog-whistling. Street = drug violence. Period.*
Blirdy: Based on your assessment, it would be interesting to see the statistics of violent crime if drugs were legalized. If only there was some data to extrapolate? Can you think of any country that has legalized drugs and monitored this in relation to crime? I can think of 4 countries. And every one of them have had a massive decrease in violent crime. The truth is, even if America legalized crime and violence goes down, the establishment will find some other reason to mass incarcerate because it's big business. Right up there with big oil and big pharma.
Prison is what you make it. Like anywhere else. With a captive audience it's a unique community. "T never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude." HDT Unless of course you don't like yourself.
Danielle would you like to borrow a brush? Why? Silly to put on makeup and leave your hair like you just crawled out of bed. lol OH! "sleeping on a friend's couch", splains zit.
I got raped at gunpoint at a very young age and I would have rather do this kind of a process than what ended up happening in court. Rape isn't really distinct from other forms of violence. I think people still view it as sex and therefore put it in either a more awkward category or in a category that makes it more serious than even murder, but it's just another form of violence. Part of the reason I know this is because my rapist told me about the abuse he was facing while he had the gun pointed at me but before he raped me. He needed healing and, because he didn't get it, he acted out and raped me. What made it so that I could heal was that I forgave him and it made it a lot easier to forgive him because of all the stuff he told me before he raped me. What he did to me was terribly wrong and his past abuse is not an excuse for what he did, but I think he had a chance to turn his life around, especially considering how young he also was. Instead, I saw him a couple of times on the streets as a homeless person and then I never saw him again. Who knows how much he could have turned his life around and I was able to get past the incident and have a chance in my life because I was able to forgive him. I don't think we should underestimate the benefits to the victim of being able to see the person who did something so terrible to them as a human being instead of a monster. Whenever we allow ourselves to see someone else as "the other," we will almost certainly despise them and hatred in one's heart only destroys oneself.
I just found your comment, and thank you so much for sharing your experience. Your perspective is very inspiring to me, it seems to me as a truly interesting point for reform
interesting conversation. it's what you get with unregulated capitalism, no incentive to make anything better, just build gated communities so we don't have to deal with the oppressive society that it creates.
The ''monstrous others,...not quite human the way we are, from whom we must be protected'' are NOT imagined. Unfortunately, they're not in prison, they're in the US government.
Fascinating topic and interesting, intelligent discussion ladies, thank you. Very impressed with Danielle's unapologetic intellect, rationale, and candor. Nice. This is why I watch Democracy Now!
I fully agree with you Ms. Danielle Sered......I surely will buy your book during my visit to the USA. I think you are a very bright woman and a person with a very high social and human conscious.
Ok this women has good intentions. But she lacks clarity of thought. She is doing the unicorns and rainbows, and empathy and compassion will get through. I hope? No as I posted before this comment. First you need to change the whole entirety of the system. First we need to abolish the fantasy of the mythical merit system too many believe to be a fact. When every evidence show the exact opposite. 2nd we need to correct what success and aspirations ARE. 3rd we need to have the most accurate peer reviewed education system and bluntly honest history. 4th we need to have full access to as many aspirations and dreams for all. 5 we need controls on predatory criminals operators getting into elected & official government positions. As well as strong regulations on code of ethics and conduct of business, absolutely no monopolies. These are but a few of the things that need to take place. To curb violence. Prisons are nessary, but how they are run and built is primary. For instance. Why have cells? Why not open aired walled prisons with dorms. Why not supply the inside the wall with plots for growing food. That the prisoners must maintain to grow their food. Of course offer training to do this. Also give them buildings to make their own clothing and other necessities they will need. Give them the ability to produce products for their own use and to sell to the outside. This way they learn skills, and help pay for their time in prison and get money for when they get out. These would be actual solutions that would do a world of good on multiple ways for the prisoners.
You have some good and original ideas.
All of that sounds expensive and unnecessary. The point of all this should be, how do we make people more reflective, conscious, and remorseful? Prison does and will not allow for any of those things.
This is total BS. How about you stop blatant racism of targeting BLACK people for prison and mass incarceration? Does that provide enough clarity of thought. I guarantee you if the same share of White men were getting incarcerated, the prison system would be looked at as the problem not a solution.
Ms. Sered, what you do is so important. Thank you so much for getting this right. Please keep up the awesome work.
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
2:20 It's no wonder why this country is about to be destroyed in world war. It deserves it. It is self-destructing.
We can absolutely do better. We can change our minds to see people who commit crimes as human beings. Why did they commit that crime? Maybe if we can figure out how to heal society, and treat those who hurt us with love instead of fear, we won't need to build so many walls lined with razor wire.
very poetic. tell it to the victims
I'm one of them. @@VVershCSIV
I would never suggest people who have done wrong should not be punished. I only believe that the punishments we have now are not effective, and that maybe the society we live in drives people to do things they would not otherwise choose to do.
I am very aware it is a complicated subject that can't be simplified into some poetic words on RUclips. But I stand by my previous statements.
We will find peace, if we look for it even where we are afraid to go. @Dr. Edward Morbius
@Dr. Edward Morbius Well, what the Fuck you waiting for then?? I'm pretty sure you can deal with the lawsuits from his/her friends and close family members. Oh wait, you don't give a shit.....lets just shoot them too eh?? *Facepalm*
I'm down for making all drugs legal and regulated as a public health issue not a criminal one. But if you shoot someone or attack someone or do anything to harm another person physically, thats it you go to jail for a long time. I don't care what the background of the assailant is.
She has a very good point that if prisons worked, the U.S. would necessarily be the safest country in the world. But we're not. So the notion that a violent criminal belongs in prison is vengeful, not productive. One definition of "justice" is "conformity to truth, fact, or reason," and the truth is that prisons increase the likelihood of more violent crimes in the future. Do we really want a justice system based in vengeance rather than truth?
@@jameswatson9338 Tell it to the victims you. Seriously I want you to go to Prince Georges county, and talk to the family of Nia Owens and explain to them your grand plan to bring truth and justice to society. That's why the fellas need to be released from prison. Cuz feelings and stuff.
I respect your right to have the opinions you have. But this fantasy is going to get people killed. Now like I said make drugs legal. But don't be so quick to think you know why people are locked up.
Also America is one of the safest places on the planet. Not the chocolate cities of course. Baltimore and Chicago are hell holes. But the rest of the country is incredibly safe.
@@VVershCSIV As this interview mentioned multiple times, 90% of crime victims and their families prefer the option of not making a dangerous person more dangerous by putting them in prison. The factual outcome matters more than personal feelings, and the fact is that prison doesn't work. The real fantasy is that taking someone away for awhile and putting them in a horrible place with no outlet for development is somehow going to fix them.
where is part 2?
Singapore and Japan have very punitive justice systems and low crime rates...so much for your theory
The question is, do they re-offend after going though the program?
I don't real like Danelles narrative of what must happen for police reform. POLICE can change with out a complicated understanding of that particular opinion. Being aware as she described would be great but not conditional to "police reform" .......... she brings up a lot of issues that DO need to be addressed, Thank you for that
just let everyone wear a peacemaker
#ADOS need Restorative Justice ASAP!!!
Communal Fascia tensegrity ~~~ we gotta learn 🙏🏽
Weaponize the pain of our victims😨
So Beautiful , this is transformative justice , Grace go with you in all you do :)
why are Israelis so concerned with American Politics?
Because they are VERY CONCERNED with LOOSING the CONTROL they have over our American Government! Can you imagine our President going to Israel with their Congress, to talk about PEACE with the Palestinan's? Oh hell no! But our Republican Controlled Houses ALLOWED Netanyahu to DISRESPECT us this way .......... TWICE!
Because they want to take control of the US and the rest of the world.
rebecca & allen -- you guys are idiots
What about rapists? Lock them up and throw away the key?
yes...let's base our justice system based on what indeginous people in small communities did hundreds of years ago to a country over 300 million people
How will it work with just breaking the law because you are poor and can't afford to pay tickets? Tickets that set a domino effects.
All we need is away from our captures #ADOS #REPARATION #SEPARATION
This woman is a hypocrite who is she Lord of fries you look to rehabilitation everybody black man gets stuck with a lot of sexual assault cases that are sexual assault cases
Smart woman!
* "We end today's show with criminal justice reform and the fight to end mass-incarceration." (Lie, there is no fight). 0:02
* "Criminal justice reform gained momentum in recent years with 2020 Democratic presidential candidates vowing to take on the issue (Corey Booker's proposal is Next Step, that's it.)
* "A number of states are tackling everything from cash bail to sentencing reform." (It's not comprehensive it's piecemeal. Again, Cory Booker made one national proposal.)
* "These efforts have focused almost entirely on nonviolent drug offenses while side-stepping the core issue of America's addiction to incarceration - violence". (Wow. Lie. Drugs.) 0:23
* "More than half of those imprisoned have been convicted of violent crime." (That's true, street crime is drug crime. 12-years olds know this.)
* "Must reckon with violent crime. And come up radically new ways to address it." (Again, street crime is drug crime. 12-years olds know this.)
" "There's no path to ending mass-incarceration that doesn't include addressing violence. (Must address drugs. The violence comes from drugs.) 2:40
* "They wouldn't say petty theft and they wouldn't say drug possession, they would say crimes of violence. (You're not making the connection. Violence comes from drugs.) 4:02
* "Before the level of violence in Chicago went through the roof, before the crack epidemic, before mass-incarceration. (Exactly. That's the correct connection.) 4:37
* "The four core drivers of violence are shame, isolation, exposure to violence, and an inability to meet one's economic needs. (Complete lie. Street violence = drug violence.) 5:35
* "The four core features of prison are shame, isolation, exposure to violence, and an inability to meet one's economic needs. (Complete lie. Drugs put people in prison.)
*Summary: Danielle Sered's goal is to trick the public from making the connection between drugs and street violence. She is undermining the need for universal drug decriminalization with drug clinics, as in Portugal, Norway, and Urguay, and replacing it with classic dog-whistling. Street = drug violence. Period.*
Blirdy: Based on your assessment, it would be interesting to see the statistics of violent crime if drugs were legalized. If only there was some data to extrapolate?
Can you think of any country that has legalized drugs and monitored this in relation to crime? I can think of 4 countries. And every one of them have had a massive decrease in violent crime.
The truth is, even if America legalized crime and violence goes down, the establishment will find some other reason to mass incarcerate because it's big business. Right up there with big oil and big pharma.
Prison is what you make it. Like anywhere else. With a captive audience it's a unique community.
"T never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude." HDT Unless of course you don't like yourself.
Danielle would you like to borrow a brush? Why? Silly to put on makeup and leave your hair like you just crawled out of bed. lol
OH! "sleeping on a friend's couch", splains zit.