How restorative justice could end mass incarceration | Shannon Sliva | TEDxMileHigh

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @asianhippy
    @asianhippy 4 года назад +55

    I have been attacked, beaten up and nearly blinded in one eye, I still have the scars. I suffered mental scaring that I lived with for years. You think I would want to have a face to face with the perpetuators, if they had been caught? I can, even though it was years ago, still hear their laughter as they ran off. Never forgiven, never forgotten. If they had been caught, I would let them rot in prison.
    Ask the victims of crimes if restorative justice is what they want. I don't think you would be happy with the answer.

    • @Sharsung
      @Sharsung 4 года назад +13

      I am so sorry for the bad things that happened to you. Please have a good life anyway.

    • @asianhippy
      @asianhippy 4 года назад +7

      @@morecatst7049 Ok, let them take responsibility for their actions and then lock them up.

    • @mamazombieee5418
      @mamazombieee5418 4 года назад +19

      I'm so sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately, restorative justice is ineffective for offenders of serious crime. You are correct in believing that certain types of crime require the criminal to be separated from the general population in order to keep them from victimizing anyone else. I hope you continue to find healing, and I hope that you someday get justice.

    • @asianhippy
      @asianhippy 4 года назад +4

      @@mamazombieee5418 It was over 30 years ago, so I doubt I will, but thanks :)

    • @kevinhung1575
      @kevinhung1575 4 года назад +11

      That’s terrible what happened to you, but not all offenders are violent. People change and restorative justice can be the best route going forward.

  • @kingkong905
    @kingkong905 3 года назад +31

    Restorative justice is powerful. I confronted 1 of my victims face to face and listened to her story long ago. She talked about how deeply I affected her, how alone she felt, how she suffered from the bad things people did to her, from people blaming her for being a victim, and treating her like an outcast. She basically said "I needed you.. you were my role model but you hurt me.." we were crying like babies. I felt so guilty over what I did that I asked her for forgiveness.

    • @yagurll_vanna3303
      @yagurll_vanna3303 2 года назад

      What did you do?

    • @kingkong905
      @kingkong905 2 года назад +5

      I bullied and humiliated people. I was violent to people. I was cruel. I remember 2 girls in elementary school saw i was alone at a table. I felt bad about myself in that moment. They said hello to me and asked me a question. I aggressively said something like "none of your beeswax!" I humiliated a girl really badly by exposing her for leading me on. I kept verbally abusing and threatening her. I realized I didn't do it because of them. It was because of my personal problems. I wish I could make amends with them but I feel its too late.

    • @romanianhustler3309
      @romanianhustler3309 Год назад +1

      @@kingkong905 go outside touch some grass

    • @rodneystanger1651
      @rodneystanger1651 Год назад

      @@kingkong905 Everybody has personal problems and they don't ruin other people because of it. You still talk about your own "personal problems" as being the cause. This way it's not your fault? You're a sociopath that doesn't really feel bad for anyone except yourself, quit crying. Hopefully someone like yourself ruins your pathetic life, scumbag.

    • @ykwtfgo
      @ykwtfgo Год назад

      Do you believe in restorative justice for mass shooters? Liberals complain about those shootings 24/7 , yet don’t believe in the death penalty.

  • @therealsandraweise
    @therealsandraweise 7 месяцев назад +3

    So many victims just want acknowledgment and apologies.
    Many don't want the courts or jail or the public shame and scrutiny.
    It's individual, but that option should be available to those who want it.

  • @kyleposey8380
    @kyleposey8380 3 года назад +25

    I would definitely want them to hear how their actions affected me, but I would also want them to go to prison for their action.

    • @cliveadams7629
      @cliveadams7629 Год назад +4

      Wouldn't you rather they were put to work to repair, as best is possible, the damage they have done to you whilst keeping their life more viable in the long term? Better than paying a lot of money to keep someone locked up, losing their job, their home, probably their family and most likely having to resort to crime when they come out just to survive.

    • @Rokettyt
      @Rokettyt Год назад +1

      Restorative justice becomes an option AFTER sentencing and all parties must agree to it. You couldn’t guarantee it being genuine if it happened before sentencing as offenders may know it could help their case and try to abuse it.

  • @hiss9989
    @hiss9989 3 года назад +19

    How about building a stable base first? Education, health care, social services, equal opportunities.

    • @jameshoney2506
      @jameshoney2506 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hiss9989 we have all that but many criminals opted out of it to begin with.

  • @891delta
    @891delta 2 года назад +9

    How exactly does this reform criminals? Criminals will likely say what you want to hear to reduce their punishment and go on to commit crime again.

  • @ginalynnpurisima2913
    @ginalynnpurisima2913 2 года назад +5

    A guy and his whole family broke our windows, beat my mom and spoke mean and unreal things against us yet got the audacity to rush filing charges against us that led to my old mother's arrest. They're so in denial of facing their offense against us. They're just outside our home laughing at us till now, I doubt if restorative justice will ever work on him. Rats are already entering our house through the broken windows of our house and we do not even have finances for having the windows repaired.

    • @redeemingpatriot3487
      @redeemingpatriot3487 Год назад

      They should pay for that

    • @vuko-ww5dn
      @vuko-ww5dn 9 месяцев назад

      no one said restorative justice works in every case. when someone is showing remorse and their actions did not cause serious damage it works much better than harsh sentences.

  • @badsoup8857
    @badsoup8857 4 года назад +42

    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.

  • @kiranminer7955
    @kiranminer7955 11 месяцев назад +1

    My son 20yo was hit by someone on two different controlled substances that are contraindicated for being prescribed together or for driving while on them, the driver was on the phone and drove into the oncoming lane and hit my son an army reservist on his way home from work on his motorcycle. She, the white driver ,who grew up in the area was not charged with a felony or DUI despite the toxicology showing both drugs present in the system. The officer told me "Your son is no angle I could hear him speeding from the barracks" sight unseen and knowing nothing of motorcycles and muffler systems and stating how he hates motorcycles. According to PA state law, this should have been an automatic felony when you cause serious injury. My son was life-flighted to a trauma hospital and had 14 surgeries to save his life and his leg and has permanent disfigurement, infection and injury. Wayne County Pa did not give access to victim assistance as the person quit and the DA never charged the driver or spoke to my son about his account and nor did the State police. Have my son's rights been violated? and certainly, the police officer and DA have extremely unprofessional conduct in both the law and enforcement as well with possible discrimination and clear bias. Who do I contact?

    • @jameshoney2506
      @jameshoney2506 2 месяца назад

      @@kiranminer7955 Did you go to civil court?

  • @michaelstone203
    @michaelstone203 5 лет назад +36

    I have seen accountability and communication change lives, so i know that works. And people sitting in prison because they had some dried leaves, is just crazy to me. Great to see you up there shining the light on some of the inequities!

    • @jinglejangle100
      @jinglejangle100 4 года назад

      @Justin H The evidence says otherwise.

    • @jinglejangle100
      @jinglejangle100 4 года назад +7

      @Justin H The part that says that rapists, murderers, and people who hurt others need to be locked up.
      Restorative justice works in those cases much better than systems based primarily on incarceration.

    • @user-wr9mr5hm9f
      @user-wr9mr5hm9f 4 года назад

      @@jinglejangle100 so they can walk free after commit a crime?

    • @jinglejangle100
      @jinglejangle100 4 года назад +10

      @@user-wr9mr5hm9f It's so that the offender and the offended can resolve the harm together. The criminal punishment system generally increases repeat offenses, while the restorative justice process helps heal the person harmed and decreases the chance of the offender offending again.
      I'm glad you asked.

    • @Patrick-sg7cm
      @Patrick-sg7cm 3 года назад +2

      @@jinglejangle100 most rapists and murderers can't be rehabilitated and they don't feel any remorse for their actions, so restorative justice won't work for everyone

  • @jamilsalih9724
    @jamilsalih9724 2 года назад +7

    It depends on the crime , are we talking about someone who stole someone's car or robbed a liquor store and the clerk got shot when they reached for a gun ? If it's the later that person needs to do hard time.

  • @averageboi5195
    @averageboi5195 2 года назад +37

    to the people saying restorative justice doesn't work, I'd really like how our current american system of justice is doing any better.

    • @MikeKabaWike
      @MikeKabaWike Год назад

      It doesn’t work. Study and study has shown it is basically nonsense. Coddles perpetrators. It is based on a fantasy - the assumption perpetrators genuinely feel remorse and victims genuinely want to participate. Both of those are rare at best. Don’t believe me? Feel free to Google around. It is roundly shown to be BS (with some super limited exceptions).
      But as to your comment about what’s better. I don’t know. But does that matter? Sometime simply incarnating offenders so they can no longer roaming freely in society is enough. Protecting people is - in itself - good.

    • @redeemingpatriot3487
      @redeemingpatriot3487 Год назад +2

      You're not lying about it

    • @cliveadams7629
      @cliveadams7629 Год назад +3

      It's doing worse, it creates a class of people who, in the main, can only survive by continuing to be criminals. It's hugely expensive and self perpetuating, it makes things worse rather than better.

    • @travissharon1536
      @travissharon1536 Год назад

      Restoritive justice is the hegemony at the moment. The consequences are apparent.
      Do some research, or stay out of it.

  • @nagasako7
    @nagasako7 4 года назад +11

    The problem is when prosecutors give victims two options. Suspects walk or restorative justice. In blue states that is your " justice ". And people are shocked at rise in violence, why go to courts and your basically given a elementary school apology or you and your crew ride up on the people that wronged you and you take eye for and eye

  • @kylaschooling4517
    @kylaschooling4517 5 лет назад +16

    I work in the education system and I definitely see how this could apply to our approach with students. Great talk!

    • @7eyesopenwide168
      @7eyesopenwide168 5 лет назад +3

      It has failed in the education system where it has been attempted. Schools became more violent.

    • @Uncle_John14.6
      @Uncle_John14.6 3 года назад

      Restorative justice equals more guns on schools, more repeat criminals.

    • @ikkarezlet1922
      @ikkarezlet1922 2 года назад +1

      @@7eyesopenwide168 how

  • @AbenaAnima
    @AbenaAnima 4 года назад +14

    Now imagine her and Brene brown having a talk. Wow. That would be awesome

    • @sarahpace5400
      @sarahpace5400 3 года назад +1

      Hahahahah I couldn’t agree more !!! I was actually just looking for videos by Brene Brown on mass incarceration. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ We’re on the same wavelength:)

  • @JothanGurr
    @JothanGurr Год назад +12

    As much as I deeply appreciate and agree with this presentation, I also think we need to recognise that so much crime is committed because of mass inequality and the degradations of poverty. We can make sure everyone in our society gets what they need or we can continue to punish people for seeking the resources they need to exist. I just don’t see how we can transform our justice system without transforming our economic system to have an actual social safety net.
    We could end deadly poverty in this country if we wanted to. Poverty is a policy choice.

  • @JoseVasquez-sp6kc
    @JoseVasquez-sp6kc 7 месяцев назад +3

    So...the victim is obligated to do work for the sake of the perpetrator? I don't think so..lol

  • @LadyLazarus1027
    @LadyLazarus1027 4 года назад +14

    there’s a lot of psychology in this. i love it.

  • @adamlowe8822
    @adamlowe8822 3 месяца назад

    And skyrocket violent crime rates

  • @brendacox7433
    @brendacox7433 5 лет назад +17

    Great presentation. For interested people, I can see this as being life changing.

  • @DouglasGKunkleEsq
    @DouglasGKunkleEsq 2 года назад +1

    Victims have a right to offer witness impact statements at sentencing. Educations what you need.

  • @mckenziebrock4197
    @mckenziebrock4197 5 лет назад +8

    Brilliant ideas to change our system and change ourselves!!

  • @joevasquez1776
    @joevasquez1776 4 года назад +10

    How not comitting crime will keep you out of jail. ...... 🤦‍♂️

    • @jinglejangle100
      @jinglejangle100 4 года назад +4

      Not committing a crime isn't enough to keep you out of jail or prison.

    • @kloud13unlimited38
      @kloud13unlimited38 4 года назад +8

      If you think everyone who is jail are all guilty of crimes, then why even have a court system? There are some hard headed people like my own mother, who I have repeatedly have had to explain that there are innocent people in jail fighting for their lives to prove their innocence.... Especially during a global pandemic where the US Supreme Court suspended speedy trials, so those innocent people are now at a higher risk of getting covid and dying if they can't make bail or lift a pv hold. That's causing innocent people to be forced into pleading guilty just so they can get time served and get back home to their families where they are safe from the criminals who just kidnapped them

    • @TheRenegade...
      @TheRenegade... 3 года назад +2

      @@kloud13unlimited38 I thought it was common sense that there are some innocent people in prisons?

  • @noahclayborne5560
    @noahclayborne5560 4 года назад +19

    Republicans be like "I want to punish them for something I really don't like even thought that increases their chance of doing something I don't like again when they get out!"

    • @noahclayborne5560
      @noahclayborne5560 4 года назад +2

      @Micke B What's your basis for that?

    • @noahclayborne5560
      @noahclayborne5560 4 года назад +4

      @Micke B punitive justice doesn't work here for sure since our crime and incarceration rate is so high. Sweden has lower crime and incarceration rates so I don't know what your point is.

    • @noahclayborne5560
      @noahclayborne5560 4 года назад +2

      @Micke B well it should only be punitive if they aren't getting out but restorative for releasing sentences since there is a better chance that they won't commit a crime when they get out

    • @lach10211
      @lach10211 4 года назад

      @Micke B great statistical analysis there.

    • @lach10211
      @lach10211 4 года назад +1

      @Micke B where are you sources.

  • @TheThrobgoblin
    @TheThrobgoblin Год назад +1

    Hi Crim 110!!!!

  • @zirakguzder3764
    @zirakguzder3764 3 года назад +3

    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.
    If their actions can be at least partially explained by their mental health, socioeconomic standing, or another similiar problem that can be fixed, help them. If they are in a position of power and abuse it and/or commit a serious crime that is clearly premeditated or done long term or repeatedly, rehabilitation doesn't necessarily have to be an option. People are not inherently bad, but bad people exist,but not all people who do bad things are bad.

  • @chrisfisher6954
    @chrisfisher6954 5 лет назад +4

    Amazing talk!!

  • @miguelcontreras1684
    @miguelcontreras1684 2 года назад

    Unbelievable !

  • @user-wr9mr5hm9f
    @user-wr9mr5hm9f 4 года назад +1

    She said might. Or might not?

  • @richsuga
    @richsuga Год назад +4

    Good idea for many misdemeanors. Violent felonies...no way!

  • @theluckiesteh9058
    @theluckiesteh9058 5 лет назад +7

    This is just beautiful....

  • @ForedeckYoda
    @ForedeckYoda 5 лет назад +5

    In order to believe this RIDICULOUS approach will work en masse, one must believe there are no people that have ever appeared on Springer or Maury Povitch. You must believe that there are no people that have a failure streak, violent tendencies, or are almost predestined for jail. No abuse victims that actually can't recover from talking things out. As a teacher in a failing urban district, the MASSIVE resources that actually must be allocated to this farcical unicorn rainbow approach simply ignores a significant portion of human nature- significant because they are the ones that act out. To modern education, the CONCEPT of discipline and self-restraint is useless...although it worked for all of civilization up to now...

  • @celymarberrioslopez1771
    @celymarberrioslopez1771 2 месяца назад

    She is using the word offender?

  • @Uncle_John14.6
    @Uncle_John14.6 3 года назад +4

    Abolishing restorative justice!

  • @trixie8008
    @trixie8008 5 лет назад +6

    Fabulous!!!! This system definitely needs changing!

  • @melikmartirosyan
    @melikmartirosyan 5 лет назад +3

    great English, thank you))

  • @mikef.530
    @mikef.530 3 года назад +8

    I like this title better: "How criminal justice could help end mass crime."
    Stop refusing to prosecute people who commit crimes.

  • @lisabaughn
    @lisabaughn 5 лет назад +11

    I hope to see this transform our world! Prisons are the worst things that exist in America. Then, ex offenders are punished forever once they get out and cannot get housing, jobs, education, etc. Let's work together for a new future for everyone. Can't wait. ❣️❣️❣️

  • @nonas2856
    @nonas2856 4 года назад +7

    Victims are NOT satisfied in Colorado. They are told it is this or nothing. Shame on you for lying. You lost credibility.

    • @hassu2149
      @hassu2149 3 года назад +2

      Where did you get your information and where did she?

    • @susanatkinson3978
      @susanatkinson3978 2 года назад

      Really? I'd like to know more about this. Can you explain more. Thanks

  • @7eyesopenwide168
    @7eyesopenwide168 5 лет назад +5

    Yes change is needed. This is not it.

  • @jameshoney2506
    @jameshoney2506 2 года назад +2

    This nonsense has been a BIG FAILURE so far.

    • @bromstead
      @bromstead 2 месяца назад

      norway disagrees with you

    • @jameshoney2506
      @jameshoney2506 2 месяца назад

      @@bromstead If you don't live there already, I hope you move there. If it works there consider how different the populations are and how quickly one party here is working to change the population.

  • @theopholistpunuval3594
    @theopholistpunuval3594 3 года назад +11

    Hippie flower child idealism

    • @conormcgregorsbrokenleg9847
      @conormcgregorsbrokenleg9847 2 года назад +5

      Ain’t that a better world than what we have currently. You sound like the naive one to me. Why not move towards a better society so one day we don’t have problems we so easily accept today. "It’s never going to change" mentality has allow this to happen and allowed too many to be okay with it.

    • @theopholistpunuval3594
      @theopholistpunuval3594 2 года назад

      @@conormcgregorsbrokenleg9847 You sound like the naive idealist. I worked in a probation department. These clowns won't work to pay anyone back. They're lazy. If they had the gumption to get and keep jobs they wouldn't have run up against the system to being with. They don't give a damn about hurting anyone. By the time the justice system kicks in the damage was already done. You're oversimplifying and vague about your solutions.

  • @HawkGTboy
    @HawkGTboy Год назад +2

    Hahaha, this video has not aged well.