Great Moments in Unintended Consequences: Subsidized Trees, Daycare Fees, NY Alcohol Ban (Vol. 11)

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  • @rickprice6285
    @rickprice6285 Год назад +278

    Here’s a great moment in unintended consequences: The city of St Paul MN, in roughly 2017 (give or take a couple years) decided that they would stop allowing residents to contract for their own garbage collection services and instead limit garbage hauling to government awarded contracts where haulers would have exclusive rights to neighborhoods. This was supposed to allow for fewer trucks in the allies and it would allow small operators to compete with the big national companies. (Waste Management) With the ability to just concentrate on one neighborhood, haulers would save money and prices would go down and service would improve! Within a year, due to all the bureaucratic nonsense, the number of garbage haulers in St Paul shrunk from 17 to 1. Waste Management. And… wait for it…. Prices went up and service is poorer (for me at least).

    • @kardush
      @kardush Год назад +21

      Here's a perfect example of a monopoly created by 'capitalism'.

    • @0011peace
      @0011peace Год назад +15

      @@kardush qctuqlly it ws created bygovernment just th big haulers just go rich off it

    • @ernestsmith3581
      @ernestsmith3581 Год назад +27

      A great example of how the socialist solution to the Tragedy of the Commons problem (a Commons Administrator) is not a solution at all, but a replacement of the Commons with the most corruptible Commons of all, a human administrator.

    • @tylerian4648
      @tylerian4648 Год назад +12

      ​@@0011peace Hence the quotes around capitalism.

    • @definitelynotobama6851
      @definitelynotobama6851 Год назад

      Morons: *give megacorporations a monopoly*
      The same morons: capitalism has failed us

  • @bcubed72
    @bcubed72 Год назад +151

    We did the "Raines sandwich" bit during Covid. Here in PA, there was a point where restaurants were open, but you couldn't drink at a bar. Hence, when you ordered a beer, you got a "roller dog" to go with it, and (so long as you didn't actually finish the hot dog) you could have as many drinks as you liked.

    • @SimonASNG
      @SimonASNG Год назад +32

      Yea, same on airplanes. If you were eating (such as peanuts), you didn't need your mask. But when you stopped eating, you would have to put it on. People ate that tiny little bag of peanuts so slowly. ;)

  • @marcusmoonstein242
    @marcusmoonstein242 Год назад +479

    In South Africa the government mandated that any company tendering for government contracts had to meet stringent affirmative action requirements. As in the company had to have a certain percentage of black ownership. This directly led to the phenomenon of "fronting", whereby a black person with no skills in the relevant industry would tender for government business and then immediately subcontract the work to a company that had experience in the industry but which couldn't meet the AA requirements. The South African government itself estimated that the practice of fronting increased the costs to government by about 10% on all contracts.

    • @Vaelosh466
      @Vaelosh466 Год назад +57

      The US has a similar incentive, it's not a requirement but factors like woman-owned, veteran-owned, etc can be counted toward the "score" a bid has and let it win out over an equal bid. Similarly I wouldn't be surprised if there are unintended consequences to the Prompt Pay Act.

    • @jeremykraenzlein5975
      @jeremykraenzlein5975 Год назад +56

      I have heard of "minority-owned" businesses in the US where the"owner" is barely even a figurehead. The non-minority "manager" has all of the real authority, and effectively started the company, but found a minority friend who would call himself the "owner" of the business for a small fee, so that the business could get affirmative action contracts.

    • @marcusmoonstein242
      @marcusmoonstein242 Год назад +28

      @@jeremykraenzlein5975 We had exactly the same problem here. It got so bad that white business owners were paying semi-literate black workers to become "shareholders" and sign their names on government tender documents. The practice of fronting was eventually outlawed.
      Unfortunately fronting is very profitable, so it evolved to a point where politically connected black people would exploit their connections to get contracts they had no right to get. They would then hire white-owned businesses to do the actual work.
      Luckily the latest court rulings may mean that the AA requirements for government contracts might be declared illegal. If this happens then fronting will no longer be necessary.

    • @marcusmoonstein242
      @marcusmoonstein242 Год назад +3

      @@Vaelosh466 Just out of curiosity, what's the Prompt Pay Act?

    • @Vaelosh466
      @Vaelosh466 Год назад +10

      @@marcusmoonstein242 It requires the US government to respond to any invoice from an entity it has a contract with within 30 days or the right to dispute the invoice is waived and the payment has to be disbursed. As I recall this is a big part of why Medicare scams are so common, although it might be a similar requirement in Medicare law. There are so many claims the government can't investigate most of them before time runs out and it has to pay.

  • @aussiewanderer6304
    @aussiewanderer6304 Год назад +157

    There's two towns in Victoria Australia that have a very winding road (rather than straight) because there were laws once in place that people couldn't be served alcohol on Sunday unless they were travellers who had travelled more than a certain distance from home (10km I think) and so both towns rebuilt the road to make it just long enough so on Sunday all the men would swap towns so they could drink.
    The winding road is still like that today because it was too difficult to change.

    • @kimj5037
      @kimj5037 Год назад +8

      That is hilarious 😅. Thanks for sharing.

    • @Barskor1
      @Barskor1 Год назад +18

      In Austrailia the road swerves for you when you are drunk

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat 10 месяцев назад +5

      In my neighborhood there was a BEAUTIFUL street lined with big oak trees I used to like to drive down. But they had a problem with speeding so the local council paid millions of dollars to add artificial curves to the street. You have to see it to believe it. It's a perfectly straight, double-wide American residential street, where they've built in big concrete chicanes out of curbs and pointless concrete round-about-islands at every single intersection.
      And of course all of this is a HUGE problems (for everyone obviously) but especially for Snow Plow drivers. So they've had to absolutely cover all these artificial obstacles in big flashy road signs so no one crashes into them. There's at least three reflective road signs on every chicane and four on every round-about-island. They didn't even "beautify" any of this, it's just concrete, and they filled the chine's with plain stones.
      So now, the street looks like maybe the ugliest street in the valley, it's incredibly dangerous because cars are swerving back and forth, weaving in and out of parked cars and pedestrians (there's literally a dog park on this street), and I've already seen at least one accident of a car crashing into a parked car.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад +1

      As Beatles sang ...
      The long and winding road
      That leads to your beer
      Will never disappear
      I've seen that road before
      It always leads me here
      Lead me to you beer
      😅

    • @gregiles908
      @gregiles908 9 месяцев назад +1

      5 miles seems accurate

  • @garrettkocach8974
    @garrettkocach8974 Год назад +51

    In many places, like Bourbon County Kentucky, it is illegal to throw away tires because they are an environmental problem. People are charged a disposal fee. This has led to people piling them or secretly dumping them causing more damage than going to a landfill.

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII Год назад +5

      In France, for a lot of stuff, you get charged when you buy. The disposal price is listed on the sale document but, you are still expected to take it to the appropriate recycling center.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@PhilJonesIII You need to show the 'unintended consequence' part and how it connect to the 'good intention' law part.

  • @peterhessedal8539
    @peterhessedal8539 Год назад +81

    I think this series should be required viewing for every legislative body in the country. If I'm required to go through required sensitivity training every year. Legislators should be required to go through required second and third ordered reasoning training every year.

    • @mofbombay6290
      @mofbombay6290 Год назад +4

      And a test afterwards

    • @Woodside235
      @Woodside235 Год назад +6

      For some of them it would just be a tutorial, not a warning.

  • @herknorth8691
    @herknorth8691 Год назад +500

    Gun buy "backs" are a something that you should throw into one of these vids if you haven't already. Some people started making zip guns that didn't even work with a few bucks worth of materials from hardware stores. The program gave anyone who turned in a gun something like $50 per gun so the sub $50 zip guns were quite profitable.
    Another gun-related one that I recall from many years ago (please fact check this since my memory is not reliable!): Belgium outlawed guns in "military calibers" and paid owners of such guns to turn them in. In Europe, the barrel and bolt of a firearm are considered the controlled parts (unlike America where the receiver or frame is) and counted as a "firearm" in and of themselves. Many patriotic Belgians owned FN-FAL rifles in a military caliber, 7.62x51mm NATO, which they took the barrel off of, turned it in for more money than it was worth and then used part of the proceeds to buy a barrel in caliber .308 Winchester, which is not in the inventory of any military but that can shoot 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition safely and reliably. The firearms were essentially unchanged except to get a brand new barrel and the owner made a profit to boot.

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness Год назад +51

      the gun control ones are great. you can't stop technology.

    • @Tysto
      @Tysto Год назад +4

      @@SeraphsWitness The unintended consequences in both those cases probably numbered in the dozens and amounted to a few thousand dollars in waste. Those were probably quite successful programs.

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness Год назад +67

      @@Tysto It depends how you measure "success".
      Most of the guns turned in are old rifles and junk weapons that wouldn't even be used in any sort of crime. A lot of them are gun folks turning in their junk so they can go buy better weapons. I know some personally.
      And the notion that this somehow helps gun violence is completely absurd.

    • @stevenscott2136
      @stevenscott2136 Год назад +52

      It's hilarious to think that a mugger or gangsta would sell his primary tool for less than he makes in one day of USING the tool.

    • @TheDuckofDoom.
      @TheDuckofDoom. Год назад +15

      They aren't just compatible, a .308 barrel litterally is a 7.62 barrel. There may be some subtly different tolerances within the chamber or head clearance adjustment (neither is part of the barrel of course), but the only difference in barrel and bolt is the label stamped on it.
      Really all modern "30 caliber" rifles use the same basic barrel inside diameter, the small numbering differences only designate the specific cartridge and expected chamber pressure range.

  • @jeycee32
    @jeycee32 Год назад +406

    The Raines sandwich reminds me of the covid restrictions NY put in place requiring people sitting at a bar to have food in order to be unmasked.

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 Год назад +77

      And the airline passengers who took an entire flight to consume a bag of peanuts.

    • @GeneralThargor
      @GeneralThargor Год назад +14

      And the UK pubs thinking a 'substantial meal' was covered by a pork pie!

    • @RENEG4DE4NGEL
      @RENEG4DE4NGEL Год назад +38

      In Idaho they passed a law that prohibited smoking cigarettes in public establishments, but exempted private clubs. Restaurants with a lot of smoking customers had a quick solution. They became private clubs! All one needed to do was sign their name into a registry and pay $1 to join. Since membership came with one free drink (retail value $1) we just kept smoking in our new "private club" without skipping a beat.

    • @Direkin
      @Direkin Год назад +10

      In Hong Kong getting a liquor license is an arduous process. The way around it for some establishments is to operate as a private club. Membership is the price of one drink, with the first one free when joining.

    • @humbughumbughumbug
      @humbughumbughumbug Год назад +17

      @@GeneralThargor In NYS governor Cuomo stated that a plate of chicken wings "did not constitute a substantial meal" and he angered quite a lot of Upstate NY folks, especially those in the Buffalo region, famous for their "Buffalo Wings!"

  • @josephoakes168
    @josephoakes168 Год назад +133

    Here's one for ya. When Obamacare passed in whatever year, it mandated that employees who work more than 30 hours a week must be provided with healthcare insurance. The intention was to up the number of people with insurance. But employers found that having 2 part-time employees each working 20 hrs per week was cheaper than 1 full-time employee working 40 hrs per week because then the employer is not required to pay for health insurance. Several people I know were let go of full-time jobs and they instead had several part-time jobs to make up the loss of pay, resulting in a more hectic work schedule. I'm a teacher and the school district only pays once a month, so there was an upper limit on the number of times a substitute teacher would work for the month (I think it was 12), so what happened is that when we get to the last week of the month, there are no subs available, so teachers have to give up their prep time to cover other classes.

    • @jackdonkey22
      @jackdonkey22 Год назад +5

      It should be illegal for employers to pay for healthcare. Shaq and Flo and Jake and a gecko could sell us health insurance instead. Also then very small businesses could hire their first employees without worrying about that stuff.

    • @GrimRuler
      @GrimRuler Год назад +19

      @@jackdonkey22 If an employer wants to pay for their employees healthcare out of the kindness of their heart, then that's their prerogative. But they shouldn't be mandated to do so.

    • @thegadphly3275
      @thegadphly3275 Год назад

      ayup

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting Год назад +18

      @@jackdonkey22 Netherlands made it illegal for employers to pay for their employees' health insurance. Result? Insurance premiums went through the roof because whereas the companies were getting bulk discounts when paying for sometimes hundreds or thousands of insurance policies, the hundreds or thousands of employees now each have to shop around themselves and don't get those discounts.
      Many companies ended up upping salaries to part compensate their workers, but that increase mostly disappears into the government's coffers in the form of additional income tax paid.
      Result? More workers with insufficient health insurance because they no longer can afford the extras on their plan, higher operating cost for businesses, more financial stress on workers.

    • @brendanayres7920
      @brendanayres7920 Год назад +7

      Or you could just have universal heathcare like every other developed nation.

  • @Zetact_
    @Zetact_ Год назад +316

    Considering how often the result is the government getting more money and power without solving the purported problem I think it's less "unintended consequences" and more "unstated intentions with successful results."

    • @MichaelMaxwell747
      @MichaelMaxwell747 Год назад +5

      Everything they say they mean the opposite. Anti corruption becomes corrupt

    • @pendlera2959
      @pendlera2959 10 месяцев назад +7

      Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

    • @1685mannoduff
      @1685mannoduff 3 месяца назад

      gubbamints are under the delusion they are the ones to 'fix' the problems THEY create

  • @AdamSPARTAN76
    @AdamSPARTAN76 Год назад +88

    Centrally planned, authoritarian social engineering could never possibly go wrong!

  • @michaelbcohen
    @michaelbcohen Год назад +54

    Well the day care one in Israel did results in many places realizing they could make a lot of extra money (especially lower paid day care staff) through late penalty fees. Now its standard in many places in Israel. The original idea failed, but a whole new business came around because of it, and people love it today.

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Год назад +13

      Hey look! More unintended consequences! 😂
      Though personally, I kind of like the solution of normalizing it. As long as everyone understands that it’s a business transaction, it’s a win-win all around.

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Год назад +12

      @Citro Soda Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t. Certainly we don’t want a situation where the parents are ignoring the kids and just leaving them in daycare longer. The flip side is that the kids stressing out about if their parents are going to arrive on time isn’t good for anyone either. Solving the undesirable aspects require looking at the larger system to understand the drivers rather than focusing on the side effects of late pickup.

    • @Jakehava
      @Jakehava Год назад +8

      @Citro Soda, Actually, the kids haven't won since day "care?" became a thing.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад

      it's a win - win 😅

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 9 месяцев назад +1

      The trick is you have to set the fine high enough that it actually compensates for the inconvenience.

  • @fantasdeck
    @fantasdeck Год назад +10

    It's also illegal to drink on Indian reservations in New Mexico, so many Native Americans drive to Gallup to consume alcohol, and then drive back to the reservations. If you remove the highway between the two from calculations of drunk driving fatalities, New Mexico falls from number 1 or 2 in drunk driving fatalities to number 48.

  • @ProductBasement
    @ProductBasement Год назад +52

    "A fine is just a price"
    Words to live by

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal 10 месяцев назад +1

      Only if you have the money

  • @jefferydebbink282
    @jefferydebbink282 Год назад +24

    Good job using the tree one from Mexico, I remember seeing that one in the comments from the last Unintended Consequences video. What I’m still waiting on? Unintended Consequences videos that include the unintended consequences of gun control!!

  • @BewareTheCarpenter
    @BewareTheCarpenter Год назад +106

    The second one could actually be a win-win so long as you use the fine money to pay your staff to stay later, or hire someone new to run after daycare daycare.

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Год назад +7

      in what way would it not be win-win? both sides got exactly what they wanted.

    • @aguyyouneverknew
      @aguyyouneverknew Год назад +30

      Sure, but the study was specifically trying to cut down on the number of parents that were picking their kids up late, so regardless of if it could be viewed as a win, from the study's specific goal, it was a failure.

    • @franklyanogre00000
      @franklyanogre00000 Год назад +14

      ​@@aguyyouneverknew I'm pretty sure the sociologists are the real failures.

    • @iandick1364
      @iandick1364 Год назад +22

      The real loss is for the kids who spend less time with their parents.

    • @bozimmerman
      @bozimmerman Год назад +4

      So, the answer to the "Unintended Consequence" is : Change your intentions to whatever just happened?

  • @wizworm
    @wizworm Год назад +22

    Flathead lake is the largest freshwater lake in Montana it was home to Kokanee salmon and had a thriving ecosystem. Biologists added brine shrimp for them to eat but soon found out that the shrimp were inactive while the salmon were active and it caused trout to eat the shrimp and it killed off the salmon

    • @beavcleav3086
      @beavcleav3086 11 месяцев назад

      Seems every time they screw with nature something like this happened

  • @effyH
    @effyH Год назад +18

    Plz talk about this one.
    There’s a Mapo Bridge crosses the Han River in Seoul, South Korea. Between 2007 and 2012, over 100 ppl tried to suicide or suicided by jumping into the river on Mapo Bridge.
    In order to alleviate this situation, the government posted many sweet photos about family around the bridge, and the handrails were equipped with motion sensors to sense movement, lighting up with slogans like ‘Are you tired? Did u eat? Does your crush like you? How’s your life going?’, etc.
    A year later, however, the number of suicides on Mapo Bridge had increased by six times year-on-year.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад +1

      You need to show why it backfires. Otherwise, it's just an unhappy coincidence.

    • @AmericanVet.4everJesusAmen
      @AmericanVet.4everJesusAmen 3 месяца назад +3

      By asking questions, it made people think how shity your life is. So they got more people to think about suicide, not why you should live.

    • @effyH
      @effyH Месяц назад

      @@AmericanVet.4everJesusAmen yeah, that's how they made it worse

  • @jedimmj11
    @jedimmj11 Год назад +82

    Not sure this fits the theme, but it's definitely an unintended consequence: In the year 2000 most of Israel's doctors went on strike. The result? A 20% drop in mortality rate for the duration of the strike.

    • @davidball3081
      @davidball3081 Год назад +15

      Readers digest magazine had an article about medical malpractice in Michigan... ? Ten of thousands of deaths occurred due to human error and botched operations. 😢

    • @VestinVestin
      @VestinVestin Год назад +6

      Wow, sounds like if there were no doctors, people would live forever! No, wait, wait... It's just that people who'd inevitably die without intervention but could live with one were tossed onto the backburner. Duh.

    • @markh4926
      @markh4926 Год назад +7

      My pancreas surgery was a success, the problem was they closed me up with a cut somewhere in my gut. I almost died of internal bleeding. Two doctors came up with the idea of sending a scope and a wire up my femoral artery and they found the leak and tied it off. Don't ask me how the heck they do that but I was wide awake and in serious pain for hours, maybe up to three.

    • @SimonASNG
      @SimonASNG Год назад +15

      Yea, so risky surgeries were temporarily deferred. You can bet the numbers all evened out (or were possibly worse) the following year.

    • @mrdanforth3744
      @mrdanforth3744 11 месяцев назад +2

      Canada had a doctor's strike with similar results.

  • @AnaIvanovic4ever
    @AnaIvanovic4ever Год назад +23

    Nice! In Sweden we did have something similar to the Raines Sandwich. Never had prohibition like the states but used to be strict regulations that you had to order food to order a drink, so old sandwiches no one ate came with every drink. Since you could only order one drink per meal a proffession of "sandwich boys" grew up, they just followed drinkers around so he could order two drinks and drink them both himself.

  • @PS-hv7on
    @PS-hv7on Год назад +3

    South Africa had a similar "Raines" problem. Up until the late `80s it was illegal for shops to trade on Sunday. This excluded restaurants. Numerous convenience stores (similar to bodegas) set up a few small tables and chairs and served coffee and small snacks, hence changing their designation to cafes, allowing them to trade on Sundays.

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts1 Год назад +24

    We need more of this video series. There's plenty of material.

    • @ardentenquirer8573
      @ardentenquirer8573 Год назад +1

      I agree 100%

    • @error.418
      @error.418 Год назад +1

      There's also plenty of material for successes. They should show both so we can learn what works alongside what doesn't work.

  • @CAAStudios
    @CAAStudios Год назад +6

    In the early 1920s, it was illegal to mention the word tornado in media (1st ammendment anyone?) to prevent panic. This culminated in the Tri-State Tornado of 1925, the most deadly tornado to date with 695 deaths and 2,027 injuries. The system lasted for 3.5 hours and over 219 miles. Peak winds and groundspeed are estimated to have been 301+ and 73 respectively.

  • @kathyingram3061
    @kathyingram3061 Год назад +11

    ~New Environmental Protection Agency laws in the east bay of S.F., CA started requiring boat yard customers to sweep their work area at the end of each day, however, that is when the wind is very strong, so all of those toxic particles, like fiberglass, etc., all blew downwind, creating far more pollution, instead of being swept up when there was no wind, earlier in the day, like itd always been done before~

  • @Entertainment-
    @Entertainment- Год назад +18

    The EU wanted to prevent hearing loss by loud music, so they regulated the output of headphone jacks in electronic devices from phones to mp3 players. Only problem is that volume is dependable on the resistance of the headphones, some require more power than others for the same volume. This makes electronic devices unusable for many high-impedance headphones, forcing audiophiles to import electronics from other regions.

  • @johnfitzgerald7618
    @johnfitzgerald7618 Год назад +43

    Ontario had laws like the Raines Law into the 1980s. Beer parlours were even commonly called hotels. And we had the same sandwich. On Sunday you could only have a drink with a meal, so on Sundays you'd walk into a restaurant and see groups drinking around a single sandwich that had dried out so much its ends curled up. Of course, progressive relaxing of these laws has seen alcohol consumption go down.

    • @jwil4286
      @jwil4286 10 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder if instead of outright banning alcohol, they simply taxed it, if that would cause people to reduce their drinking.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад

      @@jwil4286 Are you forget about the day care story already?

  • @jongreen9171
    @jongreen9171 Год назад +19

    Here is my favourite - Barber vs GRE 1990. Mr Barber was disgruntled that he had to retire at 65 whereas women could at retire at 60 (this was because men were often older than women in relationships and therefore could retire at the same time). He argued that pension is a form of pay and therefore should be equal and took his case to the European court and they ruled in his favour.
    However instead of lowering the age of retirement for men to 60, they raised the retirement age or women to 65, thus achieving equality.
    The irony is that he died aged 58.

    • @VestinVestin
      @VestinVestin Год назад

      Guy was completely right! Why should I be treated like a second-class citizen just because I don't have a vagina? Absolute nonsense...

  • @mikecoote9546
    @mikecoote9546 Год назад +3

    This is the 1st of these that I have seen. They should be required viewing by every politician.. Well done Reason

  • @joshcarlson9352
    @joshcarlson9352 Год назад +41

    Lol, the parents and late pick ups... Everyone knows that a fine simply translates to "legal for a price"!

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Год назад +1

      Yeah, I saw that one coming as soon as they started describing it. Probably any parent who’s used after care or day care is familiar with the problem. 😅

    • @mat2000100
      @mat2000100 Год назад +3

      In Australia, voting is COMPULSORY! The penalty for not voting is just a measly $20 fine. Freedom isn't free, but that's a rather underwhelming price tag.

    • @YSLRD
      @YSLRD Год назад +3

      ​@@mat2000100 I would think another consequence would be uninformed, uncaring voters. Could be why you're losing freedoms at such a fast clip.
      The idea that everybody should vote is irresponsible.

    • @stevenscott2136
      @stevenscott2136 Год назад

      ​@@YSLRD We've managed the same thing in the US without needing to pay morons to vote. USA! USA! 🤣

    • @0011peace
      @0011peace Год назад

      @@stevenscott2136 the US has the lowest voter turn out in the western world

  • @scotttaylor8462
    @scotttaylor8462 Год назад +15

    Please continue this series. This is great!

  • @scoutwalters
    @scoutwalters Год назад +38

    There’s no shortage of material for this series and we’re paying for it.

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 Год назад +96

    Good intentions sure has skyrocketed this last decade, and so has bad results.

    • @waldotheranger3987
      @waldotheranger3987 Год назад +5

      Recency Bias
      We remember more things that happened recently, and there's a lot more information available on them too

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever Год назад

      Stage IV metastatic government. Our nation is living on borrowed time. We're living in the time that future history books will refer to as The Fall of the American Empire.

  • @christina5949
    @christina5949 Год назад +12

    So glad to see more of these.
    Easy to share with friends.

  • @Morbius907
    @Morbius907 Год назад +2

    This happened in Greece. The problem churches are poor and can't afford property tax. The solution was to enact a law that says if your property has a church on it you get a discount on property tax. The result was that every farm built a small church somewhere on the property. Another problem the government wants to raise more taxes on houses but does not want to discourage home building. The solution tax completed houses and buildings more than unfinished houses and buildings. The result is a bunch of houses and buildings with rebar sticking out because it is not finished construction.

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu Год назад +3

    I'm loving this series. Nothing like concrete examples of unintended consequences.

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 Год назад +4

    That one about the ceremonial sandwich happened elsewhere too. I remember seeing it done in Montreal in the late 1960s.

  • @pedropradacarciofi2517
    @pedropradacarciofi2517 Год назад +12

    The Brazilian favelas were famously built after the government banned cheap housing known as "cortiços", wich were considered unsanitary (thou some people belive it was just an excuse to kick the poor out)
    The now homeless people simply started building shacks on the nearby hills instead

  • @zacharymarentette5269
    @zacharymarentette5269 Год назад +10

    A moment in uninted consequences
    Year: 1863
    Problem: Not enough people enlisting in the Union Army during the Civil War
    Solution: Enrollment Act of 1863, forcing young men between the ages of 20-45 against their will to fight and risk their lives in a war they might not even support. This could be waived if said person paid 300 dollars or paid someone else to take his place.
    Consequence: Draft Riots in New York CIty. As it turns out, when you piss a man off and give him nothing to lose, he might not exactly act the way you want him to. The payment of the 300 dollars also paved the way for the slogan "Rich man's war. Poor man's fight".
    What resulted was days of chaos without pause, 120 lives lost, thousands injured, 50 buildings ransacked and destroyed, about 1 and 5 million dollars, and troops that ironically enough the solution was trying to reinforce having to march away from the battlefield into New York to stop. There was so much damage that historians liken it to a confederate victory.
    And I should metion all monetary figures are not scaled with inflation.

    • @fluffysheap
      @fluffysheap 3 месяца назад +1

      With inflation, that's like 1200 dead, 500 buildings pillaged and 50,000 injured

    • @For_What_It-s_Worth
      @For_What_It-s_Worth Месяц назад

      @@fluffysheap
      “Logic is logic, that’s all I say.”

  • @thedude7319
    @thedude7319 Год назад +7

    I always love how far some unintended consequences can go but also how simple some are

    • @styleisaweapon
      @styleisaweapon Год назад +2

      I like how the outcomes are always easily predictable in practice. For example, when you pay people for the heads of {pest animal}, people start intentionally breeding {pest animal}

  • @WhyFeartheTruthNow
    @WhyFeartheTruthNow Год назад +2

    Ideas: Aid for Families with Dependent Children. Obamacare. California energy "deregulation" which fixed rates for consumers but not for suppliers (of course, bankruptcy for PG&E resulted).
    Covid lockdowns for public employees. In Houston, for example, the planning and zoning department still works from home today. Costs for everything involving a permit has skyrocketed: every lease involving a permit, every sidewalk extension, and of course, every new project is held up for months.

  • @vincenmt
    @vincenmt Год назад +4

    Probably a urban legend but I have heard from several people that a couple years ago Grants New Mexico passed a law prohibiting the sale of gasoline and alcohol in the same business this meant that the much less profitable gas portion of these stations was shut down and grants didn't have any gas stations for months.

  • @matthewmorrisdon5491
    @matthewmorrisdon5491 Год назад +33

    Governor Mariam Ferguson of Texas was accused of corruption with the state curriculum. Unintended consequence--- she picked the publisher randomly from a hat so some years the books had worse spelling then the children.😁

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Год назад +12

      Hahaha. "then"

    • @matthewmorrisdon5491
      @matthewmorrisdon5491 Год назад +12

      @@nonyadamnbusiness9887 I spent 2nd grade in Texas public school, can you tell?

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Год назад

      @@matthewmorrisdon5491 That's really only a valid explanation if you're in third grade now.

    • @WhyFeartheTruthNow
      @WhyFeartheTruthNow Год назад

      Ma Ferguson was the first female governor of a State. Since her husband was in Jail for corruption, she seemed like the perfect successor, a dynasty candidate for the one party State (dems).

    • @gungho7129
      @gungho7129 Год назад

      @@matthewmorrisdon5491 Your spelling is fine, but you used a comma splice.

  • @miiitchhh225
    @miiitchhh225 Год назад +5

    I seem to remember in florida there was a bounty on iguanas in Miami but then they realized that people were breeding iguanas just for the bounty so they stopped.

  • @dpm365
    @dpm365 Год назад +64

    As much as I enjoy the series I don't like the implication that you won't run out of content for it

    • @theALTF4
      @theALTF4 Год назад +1

      IKR? im happy and devastated at the same time with every video
      if there was an english word to describe my amuse-frustration?

    • @ardentenquirer8573
      @ardentenquirer8573 Год назад +1

      Excellent LOL

    • @HopalongGinsberg
      @HopalongGinsberg Год назад +2

      They won't.

    • @PromptCriticalJello
      @PromptCriticalJello Год назад +1

      Who would be happy at the realization that humanity's capacity for shortsightedness is limitless?

    • @humbughumbughumbug
      @humbughumbughumbug Год назад +2

      It's only the best of intentions! WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

  • @AdLockhorst-bf8pz
    @AdLockhorst-bf8pz Год назад +1

    Its called PERVERSE PRIKKELS in Dutch 😁 perverse incentives. Back at CBN we discovered one fun loophole; do overtime and take the extra compensation in time off.
    So you swap a shift with a coworker - on a different day - and get extra pay for both 😁👍

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад

      Shouldn't supervisor determine who and why an extra time is needed?

    • @AdLockhorst-bf8pz
      @AdLockhorst-bf8pz 9 месяцев назад

      @@gorilladisco9108 well, with shift work (24/7 in Operations) it gets ... messy. Often its hard to get a shift staffed, e.g. when someone calls in sick "last minute" - especially outside office hours.
      So its often the same same people who get asked, those usually willing to pick up an extra (half) shift 🤷 and if they offer flexibility, then have a right to receive some flexibility.
      We got a new departmenthead who didn't 😁 as he was inflexible with everything, soon nobody wanted to do any overtime (and the only thing that could be *demanded* was staying on for 4 hours after your 8 hour shift) so staffing got almost impossible at times.
      I personally had a standard deal; "I'll come in 4 hours early *IF* you let me man the plantlab for that 12 hour shift." - we Operators alternated tasks, field operator, powerplant, controlroom, plantlab; most shift leaders never even visited the lab so there I could just *get on with it* and put on my music.

  • @oldreliable303
    @oldreliable303 Год назад +13

    Ms obama "heath food in school", meaning no salt, or sugar. It lead to me selling salt packits at lunch, and a class mate selling candy bars and cans of soda... and the school quit making money on the vending machine...
    Edit, the same happened when trump raised the age for dip, or smokes, alot of people still wanted them, so some of us made some money supplying our younger buddys.

    • @jfangm
      @jfangm Год назад

      I love capitalism.

    • @amethyst_cat9532
      @amethyst_cat9532 Год назад

      I was in school when that was enacted. I remember being SO mad because I had to take the gross, overcooked vegetable side and had no room on my tray for anything from the little salad bar. We were told straight-up that we didn't have to eat it, we just had to take it. So much food waste

    • @areadenial2343
      @areadenial2343 Год назад +1

      @@amethyst_cat9532 The food waste indeed... I remember so many untouched vegetables and fruits going in the waste bin

  • @technicalspaghetti2560
    @technicalspaghetti2560 Год назад +2

    sweden thought people drank too much beer and hard liquor, and decided to launch a campaign to get people to drink wine instead. wine sales skyrocketed, but sales of beer and spirits didnt lower much.

  • @TheSipherArcher
    @TheSipherArcher Год назад +11

    The low income housing tax credit program is a limited program that can only give out so many millions of dollars in credits. So many developers want these valuable credits. The solution? TDHCA give bonus points to projects that get approval from local politicians! The problem? These local politicians approval comes with a price now! And corruption is rampant see Dallas county Mayor Pro-Tem Dwaine Caraway and many others. Cato did a paper on the subject as well.

  • @skeleskele
    @skeleskele Год назад +2

    This is my favorite series of the channel, I look forward to the next one

  • @jackcoleman5955
    @jackcoleman5955 Год назад +14

    “Do not be so eager to deal out Death in Judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.” - Gandalf the Grey

    • @Gibeah
      @Gibeah 3 месяца назад

      nah. I'm sure quite a few of those were predictable. Like, "hmm. Everyone wants to drink, so what would they do if I tell them they have to have food in order to drink?" Wisdom101💀💀💀

  • @J1P2K
    @J1P2K Год назад +14

    The No Child Left Behind Act! That needs a video.

  • @knight4today
    @knight4today Год назад +1

    Best series. This is what got me to subscribe.

  • @Frx-dm1wd
    @Frx-dm1wd 5 месяцев назад +1

    As far as I remember, Mexico’s tree program had a second part with a more unintended consequence: each town was given the option to choose “democratically” which kind of crop to plant, and everybody chose “pineapple”, so pineapple prices dropped and everybody blamed the government…

  • @wesjones6370
    @wesjones6370 Год назад +5

    After the sinking of the titanic, congress passed regulations requiring all ships carry enough lifeboats for all passengers, much to the opposition of shipping companies. The result was the Eastland capsizing because the excess weight on the top of the ship, resulting in even more passengers being killed than died on the titanic (although Titanic lost more people in total due to more staff).

  • @zacharyhoskins1184
    @zacharyhoskins1184 Год назад +1

    This is the greatest video series of all time.

  • @katiecoollady
    @katiecoollady Год назад +6

    I always love what comes after, "what could possibly go wrong?"

  • @bradleygard8381
    @bradleygard8381 Год назад +1

    New Mexico restricted the number of applicants for optometric licensure by making the exam exceptionally difficult and limiting the number of times one could sit for the exam to once a year. All in an effort to discourage the national chains and “big box” stores from gaining a foothold in the state. All that wound up happening is the large corporate interests found ways around the licensing requirements and new docs opted to go to neighboring states where the economy is better and licensure is much simpler to obtain😢. Now, instead of protecting private practice, it actively discourages it, leaving the corporate interests as the only option in many places, although even they struggle to fill positions many times. So, rather than improve quality of care, it simply reduced the quantity of capable providers.

  • @calorion
    @calorion Год назад +1

    I love these so much.

  • @juanolotgn
    @juanolotgn Год назад +12

    American government putting restrictions on fuel use and co2 emissions for cars
    Sounds like a great idea! With the best of intentions! What could possibly go wrong?
    Bigger commercial vehicles are exempted, leading to companies marketing, producing and selling more pickup trucks which to consumers. Those vehicles are bigger in size requiring more infrastructure, they're gas guzzlers, since they weigh more they wear down the roads, because of their high ground clearance are less safe for drivers and especially pedestrians and kids. It also causes a perverse incentive where drivers to feel safer on the road feel the need to buy bigger trucks. We see a massive explosion in sales and 99% of the time truck beds empty because of ridiculous government regulations that pushed the market in a suboptimal direction.

    • @myblacklab7
      @myblacklab7 Год назад +1

      Interesting. There is also a lot of catalytic converter theft going on, and I think they just extract the precious metals from the old cats, which is probably not environmentally friendly, not to mention the environmental impact of manufacturing and installing replacement cats.

  • @jcvanbreugel
    @jcvanbreugel Год назад

    This is possibly the best channel on RUclips.

  • @pleblira
    @pleblira Год назад +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @patrickvalentino600
    @patrickvalentino600 Год назад +1

    I seem to recall the Raines Sandwich made a reappearance in 2020-2021 in the guise of food in NYC bars which justified the unconscionable behavior of people leaving their homes to go outside

  • @MrHeff
    @MrHeff Год назад +2

    It’s wild, there’s evidence shown that if cities invest in trees for city streets to create a natural canopy for the street, it drastically increases property values, which gives the city more money overtime to cover the cost of the tree and then some. Plus, the natural shading saves the homeowner on their cooling bills, and increases street aesthetic!

  • @craigpridemore7566
    @craigpridemore7566 Год назад

    Your voice is PERFECT for this! Nice work!

  • @TheOtherGr8ScottO
    @TheOtherGr8ScottO Год назад +23

    We are shaping up for a future "Great Moments in Unintended Consequences" here in Colorado with the passage of a law that charges $.10 per plastic shopping bag to encourage... well, not using a plastic bag I guess. Instead, we are supposed to bring our own cloth bag for our grocery shopping. Here we are, a few months in, and already retailers don't want push-back from their customers so it's now on the "honor" system where the bags are set out and you input on the checkout screen how many "provided" bags you need. You can see where this is going. I have also seen plastic bags placed by the door, unmonitored, where anyone can take them. Welcome to mass non-compliance.

    • @definitelynotobama6851
      @definitelynotobama6851 Год назад +1

      *becomes ungovernable with malicious intent*

    • @grapefruitpineapple7667
      @grapefruitpineapple7667 Год назад +5

      It's worse in Canada. Plastic bags are going to be illegal to give away in stores pretty soon. Many stores are phasing them out.
      Decades ago, most stores begin a policy of charging 10 cents a bag. Of course, nowadays you can't even do that. People, being fallible humans, do occasionally forget their reusable bags. Before, if you forgot your reusable bags, you'd simply purchase a plastic bag for 10c to replace them. Nowadays though, if you forget your bags, you have to buy a reusable one for $1.
      Those reusable bags are only good for the environment if they are *actually* reused. A reusable bag that ends up in the garbage wastes far more resources than a plastic bag that ends up in the garbage. To buy a reusable bag, only for the customer to not actually reuse it, completely defeats the purpose and wastes far more resources than a simple thin plastic bag.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 Год назад +2

      in ny state there are no plastic grocery bags . paper is allowed at 5 or 10 cents. but wegmans markets sells great reusable bags for 99 cents that i like better . they can hold way more than the thin bags . i saved the thin bags before the ban ..i got a garbage can stuffed with them thinking i would need them. only use them for garbage now.

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun Год назад

      That's not an unintended consequence of the law, it's simply a lack of enforcement of it. An unintended consequence would be if, in complying with the change, something is made worse (like the trees cut down to make room for new ones), or in order to not comply with it, something bad happens (like the mass organized crime created by Prohibition).
      Keeping the status quo despite the change because there isn't enough enforcement isn't an unintended consequence.

  • @DugrozReports
    @DugrozReports Год назад +3

    So glad this series keeps going!!!

    • @freethebirds3578
      @freethebirds3578 Год назад +1

      I wish they would run out of material, but I'm afraid it will be eternal...

  • @Eatcrow
    @Eatcrow Год назад +2

    We had a similar Raines law in the U.K. for real during the great convid madness but this time with a scotch egg instead of a sandwich which worked soo well that the disease was defeated and is just a memory in modern times

  • @gregoryreview
    @gregoryreview Год назад

    Always looking forward to this series

  • @Mycroft616
    @Mycroft616 Год назад +3

    The problem: Bullying.
    The solution: Have schools implement Zero Tolerance Policies against bullying. All incidents must be documented, and maximum sentences for bullying are applied every time.
    Turns out: Bullying has financial consequences. The courts have ruled repeatedly that the actions of the bully are the responsibility not just of the bully and family, but also the school system. The meticulous documentation necessitated by these policies creates an evidence trail of liability borne by the school. As a cost-cutting measure, administrators stopped documenting and disavowed all knowledge of the incidents, then pressured teachers to do the same under threat of termination, _exacerbating_ the problem.

  • @rbmfslc
    @rbmfslc Год назад +2

    The Raines Sandwich one was hilarious!

  • @Michael-rx7ff
    @Michael-rx7ff Год назад +6

    Idea: During distance learning in the California State University (CSU) system, they wanted recorded lectures to be accessible to students. The solution? Mandate that professors can not delete the recordings. The problem was that recorded lectures took up a massive amount of storage. Tough luck, they can’t be deleted. So, professors stopped recording them entirely. (Please fact check the specifics)

    • @VestinVestin
      @VestinVestin Год назад

      WTF? A consumer grade hard drive can store HUNDREDS of hours of high quality recordings, and you can stretch that to thousands if you're willing to compromise. What the hell sort of cost-cutting measures were these people implementing? If you have money to educate and employ university professors, you should have the money to buy storage...

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 9 месяцев назад

      @@VestinVestin I think the problem come from home video camera usually record in raw data. So it's a normal thing for 15 minutes recording to have several gigabytes of data. For comparison, a security camera system can compress its footage into some tens of megabytes.
      That being said, a university should be able to afford several terabytes of storage per professor.

  • @Cuzzazbuzz
    @Cuzzazbuzz 3 месяца назад

    We had a similar situation In the UK during the lockdown experiment whereby you could only buy a drink in a pub if it was with a meal. Not a bar snack. Scotch Eggs were considered a meal hence their popularity shot up.

  • @USSResolute
    @USSResolute Год назад

    This is one of my favorite series.

  • @sarysa
    @sarysa Год назад +5

    This series could be its own channel.

  • @rebeccaconlon9743
    @rebeccaconlon9743 Год назад +1

    3:13 sounds familiar like the covid restrictions on drinking in the UK...

  • @alanhill4338
    @alanhill4338 7 месяцев назад

    I have seen this video before, I just had to come back for another laugh. Thanks guys.

  • @DM-it2ch
    @DM-it2ch Год назад +2

    The Raine's Law came back in the UK, briefly, in 2020.
    You could only sit in a bar and have a drink if you were eating "a substantial meal".
    So we all bought our Scotch eggs, which were put back in the fridge at the end of your drink, ready for the next person to get round the stupid and unnessecary lockdown law.

  • @edgabel6814
    @edgabel6814 Год назад +5

    I wonder how the needle exchange program is going?

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 Год назад +1

    Always enjoyable - thanks.

  • @SirStarGazer00
    @SirStarGazer00 3 месяца назад

    I'm loving these videos

  • @cnrspiller3549
    @cnrspiller3549 Год назад

    I LOVE this series!❤

  • @hughmongus6191
    @hughmongus6191 Год назад +2

    Yay it's back.

  • @Dr_Larken
    @Dr_Larken Год назад

    I love these!

  • @jamesmir89
    @jamesmir89 Год назад +3

    Governments are great!

  • @bevo65
    @bevo65 Год назад

    Great series!

  • @benselectionforcasting4172
    @benselectionforcasting4172 Год назад +3

    How bout doubling the Money Supply in response to COVID

  • @Emanemoston
    @Emanemoston Год назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @MaskHysteria
    @MaskHysteria Год назад +3

    The Raines Law, or "why Salt Lake City is not a tourist destination (except for LDS)"

    • @SeraphsWitness
      @SeraphsWitness Год назад

      That's not true at all, that's a HUGE ski destination

  • @TRyan3
    @TRyan3 Год назад +1

    Yes, Moar!

  • @mrtalos
    @mrtalos 8 месяцев назад

    The second one reminded me of a rumoured problem that happens in London every so often. The parking fines start to become reasonable compared to parking charges. It makes financial sense to just park on the street and get the fine. All the car parks were extortionate and not close to where you wanted to go, so...

  • @kellyshea92
    @kellyshea92 Год назад +1

    I love these

  • @andreasreich3933
    @andreasreich3933 Год назад

    More of these!!!

  • @vernonvouga5869
    @vernonvouga5869 Год назад +2

    That sounds just like New York. Thank God I'm from upstate there's at least some sense up here

  • @cxa011500
    @cxa011500 Год назад

    These videos are critical to see.

  • @mikelmart
    @mikelmart Год назад +2

    Leave it to the government to screw up everything and the entrepreneur to figure a workaround.

  • @notthefbi7932
    @notthefbi7932 Год назад +4

    After 11 episodes I've finally realized big government ideas aren't always good ones 😉
    Any bans on alcohol always seem to make things worse 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @reubenmiller7988
    @reubenmiller7988 Год назад

    The best one yet

  • @mikeeuritt4396
    @mikeeuritt4396 Год назад

    if tis isn't all ready a series it ought to be. What fun

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Год назад

      It is, here's the playlist:
      ruclips.net/video/rkhrf5MNYRk/видео.html

  • @largefarva4712
    @largefarva4712 Год назад +1

    Needed a laugh. Keep up the good work.

  • @Twotailedkit
    @Twotailedkit Год назад

    My son will be so happy to see a new one!