Road Tubeless Tyre Sealant Test & Review - No Tubes Race vs Hutchinson vs Caffelatex

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • Test & review to see what tyre sealants work best for road tubeless applications.
    Hutchinson Protect air MAX vs Stans No Tubes Race vs Effetto Mariposa Caffélatex (+ caffelatex zot nano).
    A test to purposefully puncture a Continental GP5000 TL tyre in 3 ways to determine which sealant performs best.
    1. A small hole in the centre, to represent a thorn
    2. A larger hole in the centre, which is similar to glass
    3. A small pin hole in the sidewall, away from the rolling edge of the tyre
    In each instance the tyre is inflated to 80psi to reflect a realistic tyre pressure at the upper end of what riders would be recommended to use for road tubeless applications.
    Hutchinson Protect'air & Stans No Tubes Race are both latex based sealant. Effetto Mariposa Caffé Latex is water based with no ammonia.
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Комментарии • 37

  • @JFomo
    @JFomo Месяц назад

    I was going to purchase a tub of the Effetto but I don't think I will now. Great video.

  • @bioches
    @bioches 2 года назад +2

    Wasn’t a believer in tubeless until this video

  • @peterbee8892
    @peterbee8892 4 года назад +15

    I've used stans standard sealant on mtb and on road bikes for 5 years on schwalbe pro one tyres. For holes that are too big for the sealant to fix carry Stans Dart which plugs the slashes that come from flints. I have not needed a tube to get back home yet in about 10,000k. Probably need one tomorrow.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  4 года назад

      Darts or similar plugs are great. More so off-road though, or perhaps in a more urban area where glass could be more of an issue.

    • @peterbee8892
      @peterbee8892 3 года назад

      @@MattPage I have had to use it on 3 on road bikes since I got the dart in November. Two on my own tyres and one on a stranded cyclist last Sunday. The November dart stayed in the tyre till I scrapped it in march with about 1000 kilometer of winter riding on it.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  3 года назад

      You must live in a very harsh place for punctures in that case!

    • @peterbee8892
      @peterbee8892 3 года назад

      @@MattPage I cycle in the Downs of Oxfordshire and Berkshire where the roads are peppered in small flints. No tyres are Flint proof.

    • @justusandre4158
      @justusandre4158 2 года назад

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      I was dumb lost the login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me

  • @JoaquinMaceda
    @JoaquinMaceda 2 года назад +4

    I've been using Caffelatex for quite sometime now. (It is my first time going tubeless, haven't tried other sealants in my case). It has failed me numerous times. Got a not so big puncture in the middle of my tire, to the point that all the sealant left has drained out, and has left a mess everywhere from my bike to the road. It's also very hard to clean out all the sticky goo left in the tire. Really a pain in the ass, switching to Stans.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  2 года назад +1

      Exactly my experience. Stans is good, as is Joes.

    • @boyuap
      @boyuap 10 месяцев назад

      agree, i always going back to stans after trying other brands

  • @paulbusby2013
    @paulbusby2013 2 года назад +2

    I trust you cleaned out all traces of the previous sealant before pumping in the next sample - having really shaken the bottle 1st?

  • @AllanPhillips
    @AllanPhillips 3 года назад +1

    I've also found that the Caffelatex leaves a rubbery mess in your tyre after a while, which is a pain and has to be cleaned out, so I've switched to Muc-Off No Hassle.

  • @Karel.C
    @Karel.C 3 года назад +1

    I bought a big bottle of Stan's Race Sealant. Kept in in a dark place in the garage. After only 6 months the sealant in the bottle was clogged... Pretty disappointing.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  3 года назад +2

      It must have had a hole somewhere for air to enter. I have some that is well over a year old, just shake it up and its fine. But if air can get in, it will start to loose moisture and go hard.

    • @Karel.C
      @Karel.C 3 года назад

      @@MattPage thanks for the tip. What's also strange is that the Stan's sealant got very liquid after 3 months. Almost as liquid as water. Where as the Effeto Mariposa I am currently using still remains the same, even after 8 months of being in the tyres of my mtb. Don't think it still works. But the thickness hasn't changed over time.

    • @michielnooren2076
      @michielnooren2076 3 года назад

      @@kayp8949 8 bar?

  • @BenjaminWasHere
    @BenjaminWasHere Год назад +1

    I have a different opinion. Of course the most important objective is the tire seals while you’re riding such that you don’t even know you got a hole. I haven’t had a flat for THREE years. And that’s a hard-core three years because I live in Los Angeles. Streets here are like off-road would normally be with glass, steel parts and pieces, holes, cracks in the road, pretty bad… and that’s why, sidenote, I ride my “gravel” bike in Los Angeles, not my road bike because a 38 mm tire is just tougher. Period. there are other variables besides with the liquid is seal in the hole, Besides the fluid sealing the hole, the second thing is the maintenance of it and/or the price of it. there’s also things like, will it clump up in the tire and in that UNbalance the weight of the wheel? How heavy is it from one fluid to the other, in that there is enough fluid is to seal a hole. We have some white weenies out here and I’m one…! The café and Stan’s make a consistent coating around the inside of the tire which is what you want. The flat out seems to goop along center of the tire? I guess from centrifugal force? I didn’t find it to coat the side walls at all? At the end of the day, I have three years of no flats riding in Los Angeles streets, and I use café.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  Год назад +1

      It is the worst performing tubeless sealant I have ever used, and several years on from this video it now includes almost every one.

    • @BenjaminWasHere
      @BenjaminWasHere Год назад +1

      @@MattPage obviously, you have had a different experience than I have. i recently tried some FlatOut. But it’s too thick n heavy for this size tire. I also noted that the flat out collected along the center strip of the inside of the tire, not really coating the inside of the sidewalls very well. I just bought some Silca Ultimate to test, since I’ve run out of any other. Wonder why we have different experiences? I have been riding a gravel tire, not a road bike tire last couple years. 38mm Panaracer Gravelking SS TCL on a carbon Aeolus Pro3V wheel. On LA streets. Also spent a year in Texas recently. Same tire/wheel. I see small cuts and holes all round the tire, but no flat for 3 years. 3 years no flats says a lot. You’re probably riding a 25mm tire? Not sure what tarmac you ride. LA is brutal on a tire. But no flat for 3 years…wonder how the Silca is going to perform. It’s fairly “watery”, so I should get some side wall coverage.

  • @gaza4543
    @gaza4543 2 года назад +1

    Don't fuck about just use the original and best, I've used stans for 11 years and it's the only one to use, that, or Doc blue by Schwalbe its made by stans. The only other one id uses if you using hand made tyers and they are very thin, would be Panaracer's smart seal it reacts very quickly to air and seals very quickly and can penetrate the pourus sidewalls and keep them sealed. Downside hard to keep topped up, dries out quick, very reactive. The pros it doesn't weep, it's very reactive, seals very quickly.
    People are too quick to put darts into the tier, just let the sealant do its thing. if you notice a puncture turn the puncture to the floor and work the tier into the grit or dirt on the road this will aid in sealing, top up with air if needed. I've never needed a dart on a road tier. Come to think of it never used one a gravel tier either.
    I was converting tiers to tubless before TLR tiers were a thing I generally don't know why people have such a hard time with it. Its just about being methodical.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  2 года назад

      Having tested many more since filming this there are a few others I would also recommend. Vittoria make a good one and it is ammonia-free. Joe's is also good and often cheaper than No Tube equivalent.
      But No Tubes - either Race for shorter durations - like races, or standard stuff are very good.

  • @kidsafe
    @kidsafe 2 года назад

    Orange Seal, nuff said.

  • @derekt3923
    @derekt3923 2 года назад

    Strange…

  • @GeorgeMormor-fr7mu
    @GeorgeMormor-fr7mu 11 месяцев назад

    These are ideal holes. I ran GP5000 S TR with Muc Off and they would seal one out of every 5 punctures. Even then they would have about 30 psi left. Tubeless is no good for road tyre pressures. It's being pushed by big cycling channels / websites as they are paid by the manufacturers.

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  11 месяцев назад

      Since recording this I've tested almost every sealant, and Muc-Off is rubbish. Try a better sealant like Peaty's, WTB or Milkit.
      Think what you like, tubeless is brilliant if you use the right stuff
      GP5000s are poor too, as they are too tight to fit or repair.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 2 месяца назад

      80k miles of tubeless road and I'd probably quit cycling if tubeless disappeared😂 Totally life-changing living in a place with tons of goatheads

    • @NinthwaveThe
      @NinthwaveThe 20 дней назад

      @@MattPage Cade Media says that Silca is the ONLY solution for road tires. The guy who said that runs a shop in London

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  20 дней назад +1

      ​@@NinthwaveTheWell ive tried 3 batches, they've all dried up into balls.

  • @kubackjeee
    @kubackjeee 9 месяцев назад

    First off all road tubeless is stupid af. Clincher tire with tpu tube all the way. But for gravel tubeless is the way to go. Stans race is good, but never buy the regular one. Worst shit ever, would not seal a pinhole

    • @MattPage
      @MattPage  9 месяцев назад

      You are of course entitled to your opinion, but I couldn't disagree with you more in both areas. Since this, I have tested almost every sealant on the market, and both Stans are very average.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 2 месяца назад

      Living in the desert, I was getting 3-4 thorn flats a week, often not even making it off my block with robust, conti 4 seasons. I still get those same thorns but I just pluck them out and keep riding...while riding fast rolling, supple tires. I've used 3 tubes in 80k miles vs a good 1000 tube replacements😂