Developing an expert point of view - The Carmudgeon Show - Ep. 23
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
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To appreciate all cars, you have to have experienced many. If it supposedly takes 10,000 hours of doing something to become an expert, can you fast-forward through that time by asking an expert like Jason or Derek?
Cars are irrational and personal choices, so what’s right for one person may be completely wrong for another, even if those people have the same needs. It’s not only because your car is your avatar, but it’s also because your perspective changes as you’ve experienced different cars.
The Porsche 911 is, the boys agree, probably the best overall daily-driven supercar. So you should probably own a 911. But once you do, it opens up the doors to owning lesser, more flawed - and charming - cars.
If you stick to one marque or model, how can you ever know that it’s any good? Or bad?
Perhaps what’s clearest here is an argument by car-hoarders explaining to other people why it’s important to own multiple cars. Perspective is everything.
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The Carmudgeon Show is a comedic, information-filled conversation with Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott, two car enthusiasts who are curmudgeonly beyond their years. Proving you don’t have to be old to be grumpy, they spend each episode talking about what’s wrong with various parts of the automotive universe. Despite their best efforts to keep it negative, they usually wind up laughing, happy, and extolling their love for cars. Which just makes them angrier and more bitter.
Jason Cammisa is an automotive journalist, social-media figure, and TV host with over 250 million views on RUclips alone. Jason’s deeply technical understanding, made possible by a lifelong obsession with cars, allows him to fully digest what’s going on within an automobile - and then put it into simple terms for others to understand. Also, a Master’s Degree in Law trained him to be impossible to argue with.
Derek Tam-Scott still tries. He’s a young automotive expert with old-man taste in cars, and a Master’s Degree in Civil Engineering - which means he knows how to be civil to Jason. Or at least he tries. With a decade and a half’s experience buying, selling, driving and brokering classic and exotic cars, he’s experienced the world’s most iconic cars. And hated most of them.
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Hey guys, RUclips had a problem and was continually deleting the video name and description! Sorry about the push notification and missing description. What I'm not sorry about: QUARANTINE HAIR!
As long as the two of you are there, I'm happy.
P.S. You're on of the bests journalists around and I was NOT ready for that hair.
I hate most of the influencers too, they are not a real car guys , they like just to show off
You saying you needed a haircut in the last vid was laughable Jason. You should see where I'm at.
Lose the guy fieri but keep the silver. Looks good
With hair like that youd think you would love the corvette😂
Jason’s Hair is like this so he can try to match Derek’s spiritual age
If that were the case, I'd have shaved my head bald.
Nah dudes that want 50s lancias have full head of grey hair see Jay Leno
These two are the Kirk and Spock of the car world.....it’s actually pretty awesome.
The 10,000 hour rule referenced is from a book called Outliers by Malcom Gladwell.
It basically states that it takes 10,000 hours of deliberate practice to achieve mastery.
The reason many people can do something for years and not become an expert is that they are not participating in deliberate, focused, practice.
Agreed. 10,000hrs alone is necessary but not sufficient.
"Your car is your avatar."
I'm a security guard who drives an Aston Martin Vantage.
I would say it is a part of you, not an avatar.
Jason Cammisa hair makes him look like a second tier mutant on the X-Men's roster who's quarantined from super hero duties. He gets to deal with Deadpool b/c none of the first tier members want to hang out with that crazy.
I was NOT ready for that hair.
Neither was I. I tried to incite a Hyphen Meltdown over it.
@@JasonCammisa Holy shit its really you! Sorry, it's just, you're kind of a legend amongst the petrolhead community. The video's looking great by the way. Nerdgasm. Imminent.
P.S : It's so good to find another Billy Joel enthusiast.
@@hamirthapar6788 Hahaha always glad to incite a nerdgasm. And thank you, seriously. Also, nothing beats BJ. (#phrasing!)
I suspect Jason knows all the words to Monty Python's " Lumberjack " song.....
@@JasonCammisa Your hair, electric. Love you, man.
lol, Jason there is nothing we don't expect from you now. You're a hero and a true motivation in car community. I said it before I bought my 2013 manual v8 vantage and anyone gives me hard time, I tell them Jason Cammisa approves.
Haha my name is Jason Cammisa and I approve of this message. 😏
ajbogosian your friends give you a hard time about an Aston Martin? What the hell do they drive? Do you want new friends?
@@horatiul117 It's not an obvious choice, everyone indirectly says they would have had the R8 or any 911, or some Corvette or a GTR, ..M4, Camaro SS... And it makes me happier because it makes my car even more unique :) people who are working on getting one of the cars listed above wouldn't own a vantage and they've never driven one. Sure.
The experience for me is the most important thing in a sports car when I'm just driving on back roads by myself I can't picture myself in anything else (sub $120K used or new, and I paid much much less than that). And It is a sports car, don't care what people think.. Also, it helps that it's gorgeous and rare and interesting and manual.
@@JasonCammisa My dream car is the orange creamsicle Aston Martin you reviewed in 2017 for MT Ignition. I'm 13, so they'll probably rise in price by the time I have money to afford a car. :'-(.
I love everything about this. Go drive stuff. If you're honest with yourself, you won't really know what you love until you drive it. 12 year old me was hooked on 60's muscle. 23 year old me discovered Miatas. Driving a race-prepped CRX opened my eyes to a good "wrong" wheel drive chassis. Buying a Volvo 850 turbo wagon as a winter beater created my strangest car crush to date. Several Porsches showed me how amazing they can be and alternately how sometimes it's more the cult than the experience. I still love massive American torque, but I never would have thought I'd be drawn to so many different kinds of cars for so many different reasons.
I've explained to my wife that I have different niches that cars need to fill; therefore it's impossible to have just one :)
I suddenly realize, listening to these guys, I have been an expert car enthousiast since my 12th! As a young teen I could recognize any car from a distance based on the tail lights, I bought magazines, year books, going from door to door with car brand showrooms to collect brochures, I was on the car coolaid for years well before I could buy a car.
SM has been my favorite since forever, and I love anything off-beat, owned a BX, but also the Nissan Prairy, Honda HR-V, and I could actually explain every detail and pro’s/cons of these cars.
It has been ages that I was so swamped in car memorabilia and still a can regurgitate most of the info stuffed into my system. Car geek for sure. Love their conversations, wellversedness and eloquence.
Oh, and Jason can sing!!
I can totally relate...
Jason looking like he came out of a 2000's time capsule
Jason: I wish there was an E30 hatchback
Me: Did some one say clownshoe ?????
YESSS! I am an idiot! (though it's really more E36 than E30.) That said, I'd love an actual upright hatchback like a 1-series.
Re. Asking the “experts” such as you guys on opinion about which car to buy, it’s basically like asking a sommelier about wine pairings. And overall it’s a sign of respect showing that you guys have way more knowledge and nuanced experiences with cars.
But I agree with your point regarding buying super cars for the sake of peacocking. It’s literally the same as ordering the most expensive wine on the list without really knowing what you actually like.
Most sommeliers will ask you for a starting point, a basis that they can begin to make recommendations from. Because ultimately, it’s not about them or the wine, it’s about finding something that you want to drink.
Sommeliers will ask you about what you like, what you're looking for, and your budget and will make recommendations based off that. Which is exactly the point that Jason and DT-S are trying to make.
You both are still on the wrong side sides of my screen, but thrilled to see you! Love your hairdo colors!......"Ashtray Surprise" and "Vinyl Top Black"!...Re: Hyphen's comment about evolving: I have owned about 40 cars, but started my "old car phase" 20 years ago with 1960's (Lincolns, Thunderbirds, Cougar) then moved on to 70's BMW's (five 2002/tii) then late 80's/early 90's....restored 6 w201's and 5 w126's. Collection has now stabilized around three cars:1994 840ci, 1990 420SEL and 1998 3i8ti M Sport. My daily driver is a 1993 300e....If I could have only one car, any price, it would be a BMW Z8.
I live in this exact scenario. Wife will let me own only one car due to space. Has to be jack of all trades, be able to handle winter weather. Currently have a Focus RS with a set of winter wheels/tires. The car is significantly more fun to drive during a winter storm in drift mode than it is to drive on a track over milder months.
Snow + good winter tires can be a fun multiplier in lots of cars. (and the opposite in others) As i never had the possiblity to go onto a closed track, i tend to think that i only really know a car after i used it on snow and ice. I personally like, how my 2010 E63 i had as my only car for 2 winters, is driving it in those conditions way more than how the fwd and the awd Golf estate we have in the company i work for drive. (just my personal feeling)
2004 Mustang Mach 1 on H&R Super Sport Springs, Maximum Motorsports full length welded sub frame connectors. Winter Mustang Bullit wheels with 245/45 Bridgestone WS80 tires. Cody, Wyoming.
We had 1 series rwd hatch in Europe, as an answer on the GTi being fwd.
Nice profile pic 😀
Counter point to the idea that you appreciate something more when spending more time with it: I bought a ‘08 VW R32 and the more I drove it, the more I hated the DSG gearbox. I reached a point I could not take it anymore and bought a BMW 128i manual that I loved so much, I kept it for 9 years
I lived for years with just a Miata. New ND would be the car I'd have. I'd make it work again for the joy it brings on an open road or highway.
Great topic. Owned many of my childhood cars: Opel GT, MGB, Citroen DS, Cit SM.
10 days before needing to drive a new car is nuts... Takes me a year before I get that urge :P
Also only have space for owning 2 cars, most of the time its been one daily/racecar plus one project car to work on. Finally building a racecar project car as of this year.
Note: My "only get to own/drive one car for awhile" have been - 95 Impreza for 9 years, BRZ for 3, Chevy SS, Mk7 GTI, and a STI Type-RA.
In a European city a fun mobility option is a Mini Cooper (classic, up to 1990). Great power to weight and fantastic parking! Very compromised, but highly enjoyable
Loved the point-of-view discussion - that's real-talk!
One thing about the "asking a car guy's opinion" is that it isn’t just that people don’t want to invest the time. They simply don't have the time and the oportunity to do so. And so they try to get usefull information for themselves out of someone who knows stuff they don't. If you are looking for a roof, you are asking someone who has spend time makeing, reparing roofs, and not necessarily spent years on it yourself.
"I'm notoriously unflappable" - DThyphenScott
My first experience with a lotus was in Ann Arbor, MI. 260S Sport. Glorious vehicle.
I can only have one car and I have a 2019 GTI manual. Thanks for the validation @JasonCammisa
You will always wish you would have bought an R.
@@dudndadn12212 People keep telling me that about buying an Alltrack over an R. Ehh, idk. Less power, but more unique.
@@05Forenza buddy has a stg 1 tuned alltrak he wishes he had an R.
@@dudndadn12212 nah, drove the r, it's fun and all but I enjoyed the GTI more. Plaid is fun, really feel the 350lbs weight difference, the now standard lsd removes most of the big negative traits of fwd.
R is great and all but an awful lot of money for a golf, that 10k or so would put me against competitors I would choose over it.
@@CabMech if plaid interior was available on the R, I would probably have one. Love that interior.
Thanks for the "Shoe argument" ;)
Even though I am just a 3 car owner...(but that is a lot for SVK)
Good video. I agree about needing to experience more brands. Growing up, all I knew was Honda reliability. Couldn't accept less. Then I drove VW, understood 'dynamic gratification' and how that makes up for more frequent repairs.
Wait til you try something RWD... Then you will go from 2d to 3d in "dynamic gratification"...
@@YoShImUrA53 3d: love it!
you guys are really building something big here. Thanks and congrats! Keep it up!
There is one thing I would do everyday, waching you guys!
The last time I owned one car was 1990. Since then I've been happiest with three, but seem always to have four. The core two get the garage, one becomes the project, and one is the daily driver. I originally believed if I had enough old cars, one would always be working...that has not proved to be the case as my Uber bill can attest. If I could only one car - any car - it would be a Z8.
One of those engineering drawings for a Corrado would be amazing! Hopefully the guy that makes these emerges again. Fun show, keep it up!
Derek should talk more about vintage Lancia. That would be cool
your opinion is probably interesting because you drove different cars and you were able to bring your point of view about drivers cars across so many ppl consider this combination valuable
some ppl won't be able to test as much cars to gain an opinion
Perspective is everything. I've owned several Japanese / European cars, my taste being tainted from reading every car mag since the early '80's... One day I decided I wanted a track car. In the the spirit of doing something different and suitable for track it had to be V8, RWD, American, inexpensive. That meant Mustang or Camaro, since it was a track car the image or cheap looking interior didn't matter. I got the a sweet deal on a mint 5 year old Mustang GT and about 2 weeks into the ownership It dawned on me: That was car I really wanted all along, just didn't know it. 17 years and about 25,000 very happy track miles later I still have it, along with a 2020 GT350.
I had that Billy Joel album on vinyl The Stranger. Great album. Can we get a tour of Derek's die casts behind him?
Hello Mr. Cammisa,
Mr. Jason! Your knowledge of things automotive is excellent, and your insights are more than worthwhile; the occasional expletives are, to me, part of the fun...what counts is your presentation. All to say the entertainment value is excellent and, combined with the valid info, what is there for a car freak not to like?
It's only my interpretation so, for whatever it's worth, i say stick to videos that you present yourself, with no one else there. You say interesting things, with excellent historical perspective and awareness of same; i include in that opinion the technical side of things (witness your videos on kilowatts, horsepower, etc). You do not need anyone else to bounce things off of; your presentations are knowledgeable, interesting, and you throw in some personal inflections (and what-not) that are entertaining.
When i look at what you say, i am keen, i want to see and hear what else you want to say, etcetc; when i see videos that you participate in with anyone else, it turns into a boredom fest. I've no interest in dissing any of your colleagues, there's no reason for that; what i'm saying is that your presentations require no one but yourself on the screen.
This turned into the biggest "first world problems" discussion lol.... "I can't imagine only having 1 car" well neither can I but I do cuz well...poor.
Hayden Cook - thank you for saying it for me:
First World Problem!
It was when I started shouting, (at my phone), at Jason,
"10 days & you got the 1st bmw you found? What if I break your arm & see if that fills up your attention for 6 weeks or so...?",
that I knew I was done with these car-fools.
@@jamesonpace726 Good example, i remember when my right lower leg was held together by a titanium rod and and some skin. I had to use crutches and canes for over over 2 months. No driving during that time. (And almost the same experience a year later when the rod was taken out again)
We now know Derek's actual age. Interesting! I thought he would be younger.
This episode resonated with me. We are definitely all stuck at age 12, and that teenage experience when we had all the time to pour ourselves into our obsessions was irreplaceable. Cars captured, and still capture, my imagination.
Maybe sports cars aren't selling as much these days, because when me (and Derek) were kids, and definitely more now, after school they have sports practice, then go to math club, a mountain of homework, then go volunteer at the soup kitchen, and maybe some video games, before going to bed. Now those kids are growing up, hobby-less (no, I don't count eating and Netflix as a hobby). I mean, they'll be better citizens than we are, but I can't help feeling bad for them.
i am more in the age of Mr. Camisa, could you please exlplain in which way the young generation after yours are going to be better citizens? I even feel bad for people your age, as you didn't grow up without internet and mobile phones. (No pressure to be accessable all the time, no pressure to find a powersource to load the damn phone, or to have FB,IG,Twtter... )
Not really I'm 22 spent a large portion of my teenagers playing lots of video games no I am yet another car degenerate with two projects lol
This discussion explains a lot about my car experiences. Vis à vie the first car I owned and drove on the road was a Renault R10. It was all downhill from there, I assure you.
Ha Ha around the 14 min mark you totally hit me perfectly. I just bought a C7 vette, I'm only 46 and not retired but I am white. My friends totally rag on me with the stereo type and I will totally embrace it. I even bought some white NB too but they are modern style ones just to play into it and I love that. My mom when she was alive always wanted a vette and that is a big reason why I always wanted one too, but it is a great car.
You guys really are spot on most of the time and appreciate my weekly episode of Carmudgeon.
The office's walls look like Jason's hair. Great episode and the hair looks great😂😂
your takes on Acura RSX. i have a premium model it's a lot of fun. it's enough and i enjoy it. spent the last 6 months looking to upgrade my '06 to something newer and modern. eventually realized i'd get more from spending a couple thousand and modify a previously unmodified low mileage car. i've been into cars since i was old enough to walk and if i had money i'd likely drive something different. as it is this RSX is a lot of fun and built well. I got a car made on wednesday i think. but i don't hear a lot about them anymore. but thanks for the vids. awesome rapport.
One key component for the multiple car life is time, which sadly I don't have.
I got HAMMERED with a fever and body aches; you two have been awesome company. These videos are something I half wish I would have found sooner and half something I’m so glad I found the last couple weeks.
Thanks Discount Sandler
Thanks Derek
You guys are great.
I know one of the themes of this video is that you aren't recommending cars to people because you don't have the same objectives/uses for the car as the person asking, but it sure would be great for you to put out a list/guide of cars you'd recommend for certain missions. Most people cannot get a multi-car garage for one reason or another (budget, space, life practicalities, etc.), but they still want a great car that brings joy to them every day. For example, I want a relatively small, rather reliable (sadly, I'm not capable of reliably working on my own car at this point and just don't have the time to learn given my career and family time commitments), extremely fun vehicle I can use to commute to and from the office a few days a week (into a dense, major city with less than ideal parking options), can load my newborn into, presents professionally to clients and colleagues (e.g., the last-gen Civic Type R is probably too juvenile and boy-racery to present appropriately), and can still bring me a big smile on a back road. If not for the baby, the ideal/obvious/boring answer would probably be a 911 of some sort or an M2, in each case with a manual. But I think the real answer has to be some sort of sports sedan.
The CT4-V Blackwing is probably perfect for this (and I'd settle for the CT4-V if it came with a manual), but it's just above my budget once one factors in dealer markups, and I don't think I can give up the modern safety features and practicality to go back to the mid-2000s. So where does that leave me? A GTI? An Alfa Romeo Giulia (but no manual!) or used Giulia QV (but no manual and a fairly well documented history of serious reliability problems)? An F80 M3? What else slots in as sufficiently fun, practical, and affordable? The GTI? The Veloster N?
All this to say, I'd love some kind of post/video/podcast episode covering your favorite cars through history for various missions. As Derek points out, not all of us have dedicated so much of our lives to knowing cars, but we may feel philosophically aligned with you and trust your opinion (an opinion honed through much more experience and much greater expertise than we might have).
Many years ago I though I needed a garage full of motorcycles. Now I have no motorcycles but do have three different vehicles. I agree with your feeling that owning only one would be no fun. The diesel VW is my 'drive to Alaska' car, the 330i is my 'weekend mistress' and the pickup is for driving over to the store for coffee with the locals.
Bangle-ized! Completely agree with you. Singlehandedly he has taken the form of the multi-armed Shiva the destroyer of the intimate car company.
Best episode so far, ive allready seen it twice =)
Another fun episode. I find myself looking forward to Thursdays. Great explanation of your particular brand of crazy. Everything makes sense now. By the way, never apologize for dissing influencers. They are the scum of the earth. Just one level above the mindless idiots that actually watch them and give them power.
Jason "Nu Metal Limp Bizkit" Cammisa...... sorry. Low hanging fruit.
Yeah I saw that too. Hahahaha
31:52 stopped and never graduate ... love that line. I used to be a hardcore VW fan thanks to the GTI. Broke out of that once Honda became that ultra reliable brand and I was tired of my VWs reliability and styling. (the 80 and 90s). I always loved Subaru thanks to WRC. Loved Audi and Volvo thanks to DTM . We all get influenced by different experiences which make up our choice of Avatar. Lately I have settled on Subaru BRZ.
1976...and love my 1988 E30 touring daily...i guess there is some truth to that 12 year old thing. Great show guys, Derek on fire, and Jason great shirt, the hair is...mweh :)
I look forward to the point where Jason gets desperate enough to cut his own hair.
This happened right after that episode. I might record the next one in the dark.
How do you know what of the countless dark blue 911 convertibles is yours in Hamburg Altona? Press your remote car key. The one blinking is yours.
last 3 minutes of this video was incredible. minus the hair jokes. miata, 911, something else not so perfect. more of that gents. you got in the zone right there.
The car as avatar thing is a great way to put it. I drive truck, I can rather reliably predict a drivers actions based in large part on what they drive.
Here in Australia we have these things called "Glasses" that we drink out of, jams and preserves come in what hyphen is using.
I would also say that I ask for “your” opinion because I have never and likely will never experience the plethora of cars you all have. All I can do is measure a car against my very limited experience. But I understand your answers as well.
I consider myself an automotive monogamist, and have essentially only owned one car at a time during my 37 years on this earth. The key in my opinion, is to have a genuine all around performance car as that one car. For me, it has to be something more intense than that standard hot hatch level, while still not quite reaching lotus levels of intensity. Not owning any automatics is key too, because boredom should never enter the equation. I genuinely enjoy just knowing exactly how the car reacts to every situation as well as how I will react instinctively to everything the car does. It’s that “finish each other’s sentences” level of relationship.
Cars I’ve owned
1. 1988 Celica All-trac (about 5 years)
2. 2006 Nissan 350z (15 ish years)
3. 2020 BMW M2 competition (new)
I’m obviously not at that level yet with the BMW, but I look forward to getting there.
Congrats on 50K subscribers!
Thank you!!
Great video! Now I'm trying to figure out how to apply my Tetris skills to my garage so I can add a Miata or Elise.
What a discussion.
Keep on keeping it real
Jason, i was aligned with you on your justifying for having multiple special cars because of their value (appreciation) and then you mentioned the "modern" gen 7 gti. Having multiple cars allows you to lose less money as you can't do a lot of miles on any one car. you spend significant effort just getting some miles on each for maintenance health. Going back to a one car model means a non collectable driver. One that you are ok to drive into the ground and take a loss for depreciation. Another aspect of why having multiple cars is beneficial that may have been overlooked.
Really liked the avatar idea...that makes perfect sense. I like a BMW 3 series (and other luxury sport sedans) and would consider a $10k-$15k example, but I don't want the image...i want a normal car image that drives special. I also would love a Corvette at that price, but also don't want that image. If I could afford it, I would have a Chevrolet SS with manual.
I have spent the last 15 years (that’s depressing) playing what I call rusty roulette, owning 2 cars or more since I was 18. I have had to reduce to reasonable load of two bike and two cars while trying to manage to get a roof over my head that i actually own and it has killed me to pass on some of the great deals that come up, or letting go of some my best (but arguably worst) cars. Especially the Baja bugs.
This episode was eye opening for me. I think my next vehicle needs to be German. There were a couple in my list of options, but they always worried me because of running costs. I should really experience one fully though. I went from v8 Camaro to bikes to NA Miata to my current BRZ. Think I'll pick up a Cayman or M235i next instead of a C6Z, ND2 Miata, or S2000.
The reliability of Japanese cars is great. I've had a few and they're great dailies. But nothing seems to compare to the interest and fun of a German car. Or Swedish for that matter. Every once in awhile, my Saab will randomly throw a Low Coolant warning, or not recognize the key. It's an experience lol
Even though I am younger, I feel like the older version of Jason - he had a 190 and a Scirocco, while I now have a 1996 w140 and a 1990 Passat which I have owned for more than 15 years
One and only one car for a year would have to be a six speed E46 M3 for me. Enough power to be interesting, and good steering and balance. As good as Mk7 GTI's are, the FWD would put a damper on things, and yes, I've driven one.
Doug Robinson yep I got a e46 330(m3 out of my price range) as my one car solution, Miata is too impractical and a e46 is more fun than any Mk4/5/6 gti or civic si...I’ve driven
I'd say the self destructing engines and dodgy electronics have done way more damage to my beloved BMW than Chris Bangle ever did.
Jason your funny AF. Love it when you break in to song
If I had to drive one car unmodified for the next year, Lexus LC500 coupe or Lexus GS-F. Why? I need it to not break and my knees and shoulders aren’t going to let me do a stick daily anymore. Which really makes me sad.
I learned to drive on a 1979 Mk 1 Rabbit L 5 speed 1.5L. Gosh I loved how that drove!
Audio is twice better than the studio one with the cars on the background. I think it was mic placing issue.
My ultimate car for a year (longer very welcome) would be the Renault Espace Quadra, for sure.
Thanks for getting Bob Vila on the podcast.
I feel like I started off in the mildly more unique vehicles and have pretty much stuck there. I had a Suzuki Forenza WAGON (with a manual) for my first car. Then I bought a first gen manual VW CC, and then a Volvo 850 wagon. VW Tiguan was probably the most boring, followed by a manual 06 Acura TSX (loved that car for the driving dynamics). Then got an 18 Accord Sport 2.0T with an Auto, very advanced car that could basically drive itself and was fun in a corner but not very me. Got a second car, manual 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero that I thought would be mediocre...I've had it nearly 2 years. And now went back to my roots of a 2019 VW Golf Alltrack WITH the manual transmission.
They're not exotics or super odd cars, but a bit off the beaten path with the exception of the TSX and Accord.
Some absolute wants: Citroen SM, Alfa 159 Estate, Volvo 850 R Estate, Pagani Zonda
And like DTS, as soon as I could afford 2 cars (I was 26), I've had 2 ever since. I never want just 1 car again.
Towards the end of the 39 minute mark. Until 2020, I needed different clothes every day. After 2020, it didn't seem to matter that much that I had multiple outfits of clothes.
Question for anyone: what's a ~$15K classic toy car. Priorities: (1) enjoyable to drive - works with you rather than against you (2) mechanical/analog feel e.g. great shifter (3) easy to work on (parts availability) and relatively reliable (4) cool sound would be great
Basically a not-miata Miata. Used Caterham around here goes for €30k at least. No idea what Lotus Elan costs.
Fav cars owned has been Gen 3 Megane RS cup for chassis, S2000 for shifter and general drop top experience. Current have Tesla 3 for primary car but it's too anodyne
I know a guy who lives in Texas who gave up his gen 1 Mustang for a Lotus Elise and I'm just like "why???"
I never understood it. I would somewhere where the Elise was designed for (e.g. UK), but in Texas...? But he loves it. So this stuff is definitely very personal.
I have a corrado vr6 one of them blue prints still looking for the perfect frame for it though
I think Jason is right about the 10.000 hours theory that Derek rightly brought to the table, in that when you are young, you probably absorb much deeper into whatever you do, like Warren Buffett investing since 11... or Mozart composing at 6 or 7? Good point Jason!
Is this Jason Cammisa or Jaques Villeneuve ?
As an E34 540i 6spd owner I understand and agree with the logic of this show which is part of the reason why I watch your vids. You guys know what you're talking about! However, choosing SKY over Tito's or Stoli is totally unacceptable. Like wtf. Nail polish remover? Seriously??
I own a Citroen DS. A rare one with A/C, and a SM. It is definitely not for everyone. You need to have a proficiency in automotive mechanical knowledge, and some knowledge of basic engineering in order to at least enjoy and maintain them. There’s way too few people that can work on them. My favorite is still my 1984 Celica Supra 5 speed. It hits me in the right places.
You only live once? NO! You only die once. Car guys live every day. I need more cars, please.
That was me!!! Oh the lengths necessary to get top gear episodes.
I got a like on my E28 euro converted blue 535is from DT-S, now it makes sense, he owned one..
ROW only GTI TCR or Clubsport with the Golf R IS38 turbo would be an awesome daily.
You guys need to read up on "Quiver Theory" as defined by the bicycle pursuit.
Everyone rants about the Bangle designed cars because most people think about the pre face-lifted E65 . That is what gets stuck in your head. In the meantime the E60 has aged beautifully and the face-lifted E65 looks magnificent up close. E63s are also aging nicely and if you want a car that stands out enough without being extremely eccentric, a Bangle era BMW is your best choice. Manual E63 for under 15k. Come on!
my wife said that Jason wear's the hair really well.
of all the cars I have, the MK6 GTI somehow becomes the default. I can see me trading the racecar, the track car, the SUV, and the garage queen for something else, but the daily has to be a GTI.
i went the other way...after an MGB, Jensen Healey, 58, 67 and 76 alfas, an audi coupe and a volvo, I graduated to a 914-6 and then 911...
If I had to sell all my cars and keep only one it would be my E39 M5 without thinking twice.
Nice rally wheel t-shirt Jason.
Looks crappy here now - it's our new ISSIMI T-Shirt! Will post better pix asap.
I consider this podcast as part of my 10000 hours
Great, you're 45 minutes in. :-D
@@JasonCammisa But it felt like 10,000 hours.
You guys should do an episode about all the cars you ever owned, yes it would be 10 hours long but it would be great!
Don't we talk about our cars too much already?
@@JasonCammisa Yeah, but every now and then one of you mentions an incredibly cool car you owned and it makes me wonder how much crazy metal you guys went through, like that vr6 golf or your 318is or Derek's e28, those are really nice cars that deserve an episode in my opinion.
Jason, will you do more of video car reviews? Like a 12 minutes or so of what you do on your Instagram.
I miss car videos staring Adam Sandle... I mean Jason Camisa! (obviously after all this lockdown).
Two things .....
One: l think a lot of times a car guy gets asked about "what car to buy" or "what do think about xxxxx?" is validation. Chances are that person asking the questions has something already on their mind (or in their garage) and are seeking validation from an alleged "expert". ln my circle of friends and family l am one of the very few car guys and every so often get asked those sorts of questions and 99% of the time l bat it away with some benign answer ......"oh, they're nice" ,
"that's sensible". But deep in my (Italian) car mind l am thinking either "epic yawn" or "freaking rubbish" .... but l keep civil about it, cuz......friends
Two: nice Speedline T-shirt
The Gulwing sound remind me of truck engines, almost all of them these days, in the big "semi" trucks are straight 6 engines now, only hold outs is the Scania with its V8's still in production.
CAT might make V8's still but not for trucks or road use as far as I know. So I guess agricultural is an apt description.
Straight 6 engines are my favorite config of all engines. You get the best of everything, smoothness, power... it can work in most things, only downside is the size, requires some space since its a long engine. And most of them tend to be fairly high displacement these days. You dont see many sub 3 liter straight 6 engines, do you? Maybe I'm wrong... I'd love to see a 2 liter straight 6... would be cool! Not that I care too much anymore, any modern car for me would be an EV. No matter how much I like regular cars.