I think this has more to do with what happened with Robert Kraft's immoral acts at the massage parlor and tarnished the friendship with someone he thought highly of
TB wants to stay. BB has no better option for 2020. Need to stop this nonsense and re-sign TB - one year deal, with an option (bs) for a 2nd year. Move up and draft a top college QB and tell TB he’s a player-coach and needs to get the new kid ready to start. Let’s get on with it!!
Marcellus nailed it with the free agency point, Patriots were gonna low ball him for sure, Marcellus took it to next level commentary with that one, he was on point with this topic...
Belichick wanted trade Tim Brady in 2017 because of the decline in efficiencies but Robert Kraft opposed that move. Tom Brady is an old quarterback and any team hiring him will eventually lose out because such an investment would have to last for at least ten years.
I think everyone already understood that lol. Can you guess what he'll do next is the conversation that'll ride this whole off-season. Similar to LeBron's situation when he left Cleveland (both times). Slightly similar but different.
@@kernalbert4939 Not the same thing. So far Belichick wants Brady gone and Kraft has not shown his hand. My tip is that Kraft will not make an offer this time around.
Belichick owes Brady a great supporting cast in order to send him out the right way. Brady has taken many home town discounts so it's time for the Pats to do right by Brady...
Bill has never and will never cater to any player. That's why they went to so many SBs. It's about the system not the player and if they compromise that it can break the system. Plus if you think about it, teams generally have a hard time paying a QB top money and having a competitive team overall. That being said there's a 1st time for everything.
If Im Belichick and Kraft brings Brady back again, Im flat out quitting. That would be the second time that Kraft wouldve forced Belichick to use a Quarterback he clearly lost faith in a long time ago. Belichick could literally go anywhere he wanted. All these teams that have young talent but need a leader would absolutely give up the house money wise to get Belichick away from the Patriots if Belichick gave an inkling he wants to move on
Kraft needs to be careful that he doesnt lose both his QB, GM AND head coach in the same offseason. That happens and the Pats will once again be the doormat of the NFL
Jonathan Jones Going forward, Belichick is more valuable than TB12. Tom is aging out and what more can he give at most, 2 years? Until Bill has to put on a pair of cleats his age is a non factor. The Patriots need to rebuild and is it gonna happen in one season? When you look at the second half of the Patriots season, they were a .500 team going 4-4 and if want to add the wild card game to that, that puts them below .500, that’s 4 wins in a 9 game stretch. In their regular season losses, they gave up an average of 28 points a game. Patriots fans are complaining that Brady doesn’t have weapons or an O Line and that’s why they lost the Wild Card Game. So going forward are the Patriots going to have a formidable defense complete with weapons on the offensive side of the ball? So the real question is, do the Patriots want to rebuild a team around a QB that is going to be 43 at the start of the 2020 season?
Man, the blunt honesty of these guys is amazing and a pure pleasure to watch! Some of the best perspectives on pro football to be found anywhere -- and in openly addressing the gap between the player/coach community and the ownership/front office of any NFL team, James Harrison is illuminating an aspect of NFL corporate culture that too many fans prefer to ignore in their enthusiasm for their particular team....
It is a business and they can make WAY more money with Tom on the team. Brady has been top five in jersey sales for over a decade. He is getting old. Fans are willing to pay to see him play if they think they will lose the opportunity to do so in the near future. Look at D.Wade's retirement. His jerseys were selling as fast as they could make them. If they play up the whole "Could this be his last year? Come see his last game!" they can really cash in on Brady's presence. On top of that, if Brady goes to another team and starts balling, it will look very bad. Belicheck will look bad, he may even lose the locker room. Tom inspires guys. They respect and believe in him. He makes New England a popular spot for offensive free agents. Guys like Beckam, Landry, Diggs, etc. Want to play with him. Bill can sell that in free agency. "Come play with the only player in the NFL with six super bowl rings and help him get #7 and make history!" The alternative is "Come catch passes from a 4th round white Jameis Winston". If Bill doesn't keep Brady, he needs to aggressively go for Tannehill or Bridgewater.
I will argue that Brady owes Belichick, he has had a dominant D defense his whole Career, had a beast of a TE for Three SB wins (he was Bradys outlet and savior a lot of the games) Brady is a great QB but he benefited from a great coach
So if they pay Brady a low ball salary the locker room wouldn’t respect him? What a dumb comment. He’s been taking a hometown discount most of his career!
Tom Brady is goat, BB is one of the goats and the Patriots are the goat franchise, so eat all of Whitlock's criticisms now that y'all are finally looking mortal.
@@synapticflow Jimmy has 2 rings which he wouldn't have if he was starting not TB12! He threw 3 more TDs and 4 more ints while going under 4k in yards this season. With an all pro TE and better receivers
its simple. kraft has to choose between coach or quarterback because bill belichick does not want tom brady and was forced to trade jimmy g because tom went over his head and cried like a little girl to the owner. they made a deal and now toms time is up.
@The Locker Room Robert Kraft wanted Jimmy G traded. Bill Belichick wanted to trade Tom Brady and keep Jimmy G. That's exactly why owners shouldn't be trying to interfere with football operations, especially when they have hired others to do the job.
Y'all missed the most obvious "maybe" and that is, Belichick contemplating the window of opportunity closing on him proving that he could have done all this without Brady and Brady thinking likewise. This drama is all about "Egos"
Id love to see Brady play for a new team, all the other open teams have weapons he can use, Pats need a fresh start, especially with Bill and Bradys relationship.
JSkitt I’d love to watch him struggle as a .500 team. It will totally validate that he was a terrible QB and only had success because he played under Belicheat!
OnYourKillList haha even if he goes .500 he is 43 next year! In his prime with another team he would still have gotten superbowls. Not as many of course they are the best duo in all of football but don’t be ignorant
@@onyourkilllist6880 ' Brady was NOT a terrible QB. Was he the most athletic QB to ever play the game? No. Did he have the best arm? No. But there is no measure of "Heart". The man has always had a burning desire to WIN. He never quits. He has won games that other QB's would have folded. He has had enough ability and more than enough intelligence to play the game. He's slowed down a bit, which is understandable. He was never one to avoid a rush very well. But with good players, to throw the ball too and the ability to READ Defenses, he has won more Championships than anyone.
None of that is happening, Brady and Bill are together until death do them part. Brady will retire before Bill retires . Done, facts, as young folk/ new age media likes to say.
Lol considering what bill did for Tom in the last 4 year when Tom betrayed bill by going to craft to trade away Jimmy g. I said Tom Owe bill not the another way around
Bill runs his team by the system not the player. I doubt he'll change now. Personally I think the league has finally caught up to the Pats. Brady should leave though. Why play for a coach that doesn't want you...The 🐐 can play anywhere and win right?
So you don't think this was just simply somebody explaining that it's OK to lose sometimes? As long as you learn? Seemed like a class act to me. Brady isn't going anywhere, and if hes does, I'll be rooting for him on that team. Plain n simple
I think we underestimate their relationship firstly. I think Bill is the guy who says (privately) hey, the money will always be here for you and so will a future, we have the greatest dynasty in football. Why don't you dip your toe into the market, see what its like, force teams to pay more, to offer more, set a new standard, see what you'll be offered. It doesn't hurt to do what MJ did, give me a lot for a little amount of time, check out Peyton's post Colt's career.
Brady is a Benevolent king, he is content with riding away into the sunset no qualms, no need for 'get back' there is no indictment on Tom Brady. He has proved himself. The legacy is complete
I'm not even a Brady fan......but he is that great and if he think he can play longer he probably should be a Patriot.....I think that would be the right way for him to finish as a player. But I think his receivers need to do better if he stays.
Win or lose Tom Brady is one of the better quarterback in the NFL everyone loses everyone isn't Tom Brady so this season didn't turn out good for the Patriots but noing Brady he will be back next season so good luck patriots
Let's think about Farve. He lost it, Aaron Rodgers got put in. Bye bye Farve. Then comes back and wants his job back lol. Not the same situation but it makes me think of that whole awkwardness.
Does not matter what Brady says or types...Sports Media will try and turn it into some cryptic message and actually have a whole DEBATE segment about it....Some of these Sports Media shows are so Desperate for Topics
I'm a Patriot's Fan. I mean I am a fan of the Patriot Way. And I'm sorry, but the Patriot Way is WINNING. It's not the losing of this year. Especially not the way they lost this year. It's the HOW of the losing. That was a truly terrible offense for virtually all of the year. It was just last year that EVERYONE was making the point that the Patriot system helped Brady win. It was a mutual thing but it did NOT depend on lots of individual talent. You didn't have to be a star player, but you had to be a TEAM player. And it worked. All those years. But not last year when for many reasons (but at least a fair amount of which were on the performance of TB) it didn't work. In fact it crashed and burned. A Patriot TEAM got worse as the season progressed. Worse to the point they lost the last game against MIAMI at HOME, and then did nothing really against The Titans. The system didn't change. People didn't execute. And TB was absolutely among those people. BB is there to WIN. He was probably right in 2015 but no-one can complain about 2016-2018. No-one. 2019 ----- That's a whole different story. LOTS of not good stuff. Get credit for the ups : Gotta expect blame when it all goes down. Bottom Line. For the FUTURE the Patriots HAVE to move-on. They need their new QB. Now not a year or two from now. Stats don't lie. Not over time. Change is coming. Gotta be done.
If the Patriots don't sign him, there are a few teams I can see taking a swing at using him to transition to a new QB, top of my list is Carolina. Newton is done, whether he admits it or not, his heart isn't in it anymore and his physical situation has him looking at backup money wherever he goes next. His trade value isn't high, no one is going to give a high pick of top flight player to get him. I don't see anyone posting up big numbers to sign a big name with with NO future and few skills left. Brady would be a good fit in Carolina, a team that needs ONE really good WR and a good QB to get them over this next 2 years while they get the rest of the players they need.
John Doe this isn’t a lifetime achievement award you base it on his career instead of right people Jordan the goat that doesn’t mean a nba team is going sign him to contract at age 56 right now he’s not the best player in sports you need to stop
Don't let this distract you that Bill didn't get to pick his own players in Cleveland and in my entire life Cleveland dont have winners as coaches yet Belichick is the last browns coach to win a playoff game that's before they became the Ravens lol
Don't let this distract you from your cherrypicking. The only reason his record there looks bad is that he walked into a 3-13 disaster. Then took them to 11-5 with a WC win in 4 years.
Doug dont let this mess you up as he nor anyone won anything in 53 years at least but do take heed that when he started doing his own grocery shopping he started winning big time he even got Cassel and Goropollo and Brissett in Indianapolis not to bad as every time they were called on in new England they did pretty well he also made something out of that 199th pick Brady guy lol
Hes also the last Cleveland coach to win a playoff game and it was against new England with Bill Parcels as the Patriots head coach that's pre Ravens lol
They’re looking way too much into all this.. Yes, He put a house up for sale then bought another in Connecticut. His contract was a 2 year contract. Brady made it a 1 year. This wasn’t exactly his worst season stat wise 2013 wasn’t great either. Both years the receiving corps was pretty bad. He thanked the fans and that’s about it.
I want Brady back, but he needs to treat it like it's his rookie year and show up to all mini camp activities. He needs to start getting familiar with the team from the jump.
I don't know Wiley. what if none of them wanted to tag on Brady? So they could avoid paying the top average price and a be able to afford to keep him on the cheap and put players around him?
Could be wrong, but wherever Brady goes, I don’t think it’s going to be about cashing in. He’s never really don’t that all his career. The guy is focused on winning and legacy and I think what he really wants is investment in top talent around him so he can win. Belichick has always been focused on value in players and I think Brady is really saying, “I’m near the end of my career. Enough of the value. Get me some marquee free agent offensive players NOW.”
Brady says he has something more to prove because he wants to prove that he can win a Super Bowl without Belichick. He wants to prove that he isn't just the worlds greatest system QB. Also. Dude said hair cut, not pay cut.
@810 JAMARI *every successful QB Tannehill wasn't a system QB. Now he is. Lamar wasn't a system QB. Now he is. Plenty of coaches out there have it in their head that their QBs and players need to fit their playbook, not the other way around. Refer to Chip Kelly's Eagles or McCarthy's later Packers.
It’s Brookline Massachusetts, lots of Boston university, Boston college and Harvard elite rich peoples live there so it inflates the values of homes there
Look people there isn't a QB out there that could work with the line in front of Brady his line had injuries he is not retiring or going anywhere else they will fix it and I really believe that
Any team would gladly take Tom Brady because the simple fact he gives you a chance to win a super bowl. Look what Peyton did in Denver. Do you think looking back now the Colts would still take Luck over Manning knowing they could have got 1 more championship?
I honestly watch clips of these sports shows to keep up with what’s going on . I could never make it through an entire show. Because it’s at its core show business, they are basically making things up to keep people interested and talking - as a former business owner , you reward your best employees based on talent ,consistency showing up and giving your best every day - if you do those things Your business will be successful- This is what Kraft will and should do and it’s simple get brady some offensive help Two consistent receivers and the patriots are in the super bowl -
First of all not every single team besides the Patriots want him. Stop with "the other 31 teams". Chiefs, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Cowboys, Eagles, Rams, Titans, Vikings, Raiders and Giants have their future quarterbacks or have their quarterbacks for the next 3 or 4 years. Second, Brady should just retire. My god for christ sake retire you have nothing to prove you have 6 rings he makes it sound like that's not enough or he is being called overrated
Everyone lives in the moment we all think mobile or running quarterbacks are the answer thats just the trend now pocket passer is the ultimate solution if u want to win a superbowl bottom line
They make so much out of nothing. Tom thanked his fans and clearly said he wants to be back. He doesn’t want the franchise tag because that would ear too much money to sign other players end of story
It's a common saying. "Getting a haircut" means getting less in profit or income. "The company could have paid its employees more, but the CEO didn't want to get a haircut."
Why do they keep saying 31 other teams? Realistically if New England doesn’t want him Ravens no Chiefs no Texans no Packers no And the list goes on it’s maybe about 8 teams that will be willing to sign him as their starter if that many even the teams that really need a QB and aren’t in win now mode can get a rookie on a rookie deal so why get Brady?
Hello from Canada. Tom Brady not playing in New England is like Jeter and Kobe (R.I.P.) playing somewhere else. It's as American as you can get (apple pie)
But that is a dangerous game for both to play...not sure I'd want to risk the legacy that I built. Tom goes off to another team and sucks; they'll say "yep...we were right...system quarterback"; he goes out and wins another SuperBowl (which means Belichick didn't win it); they'll say "yep....we were right...Belichick is not so great without Tom Brady".
There's a small viable market for Tom. Miami, Las Vegas, L.A., and maybe Pittsburgh. He can go to Pittsburgh and win two more Super Bowls. L.A. Is the sexy option, but won't bring home a championship there.
What do you think of Tom Brady's social media message?
I think this has more to do with what happened with Robert Kraft's immoral acts at the massage parlor and tarnished the friendship with someone he thought highly of
Just Win Baby ☠️
Very cryptic but hes never leaving New England.
TB wants to stay. BB has no better option for 2020. Need to stop this nonsense and re-sign TB - one year deal, with an option (bs) for a 2nd year. Move up and draft a top college QB and tell TB he’s a player-coach and needs to get the new kid ready to start. Let’s get on with it!!
Marcellus nailed it with the free agency point, Patriots were gonna low ball him for sure, Marcellus took it to next level commentary with that one, he was on point with this topic...
All Brady is saying is, "I have no intention of retiring." END ... OF ... STORY. After that, you can guess and speculate anything you want.
Belichick wanted trade Tim Brady in 2017 because of the decline in efficiencies but Robert Kraft opposed that move. Tom Brady is an old quarterback and any team hiring him will eventually lose out because such an investment would have to last for at least ten years.
@@roseamberzine5846 so you got that info from bill, or are you speculating..... thats right I didnt think so
He's saying if the Patriots cut me I'm gonna play somewhere else
I think everyone already understood that lol. Can you guess what he'll do next is the conversation that'll ride this whole off-season. Similar to LeBron's situation when he left Cleveland (both times). Slightly similar but different.
Kraft has to choose between his B's...
Lets see what Belichick can do with Jarett "Pick-Six" Stidham... LMAO
As opposed to Tom "pick six" Brady.
@@davidgalinat4257 Are you referring to the toss up at the end as a last resort? Lol oooof
Stidham played 1 snap all year and it was a pick six
@@davidgalinat4257 Tom "pick six rings" Brady
Fixed for you
@@davidgalinat4257 bruhh im a raiders fan but how dare you compare the goat to stidham #thatsdisrespectful
Brady threw back to back pick sixes in the last two games of the season.
Brady isn't leveraging his fan base, he is leveraging Bob Kraft.
Brady is called a son by Kraft and calls Kraft a father, you really think the Patriots, don't have a sense of what Brady wants?
@@kernalbert4939 Not the same thing. So far Belichick wants Brady gone and Kraft has not shown his hand. My tip is that Kraft will not make an offer this time around.
Belichick owes Brady a great supporting cast in order to send him out the right way. Brady has taken many home town discounts so it's time for the Pats to do right by Brady...
Bill has never and will never cater to any player. That's why they went to so many SBs. It's about the system not the player and if they compromise that it can break the system. Plus if you think about it, teams generally have a hard time paying a QB top money and having a competitive team overall. That being said there's a 1st time for everything.
If Im Belichick and Kraft brings Brady back again, Im flat out quitting. That would be the second time that Kraft wouldve forced Belichick to use a Quarterback he clearly lost faith in a long time ago. Belichick could literally go anywhere he wanted. All these teams that have young talent but need a leader would absolutely give up the house money wise to get Belichick away from the Patriots if Belichick gave an inkling he wants to move on
Kraft needs to be careful that he doesnt lose both his QB, GM AND head coach in the same offseason. That happens and the Pats will once again be the doormat of the NFL
Belichick doesn’t owe Tom anything. Neither person owes the other person jack
Jonathan Jones Going forward, Belichick is more valuable than TB12. Tom is aging out and what more can he give at most, 2 years? Until Bill has to put on a pair of cleats his age is a non factor.
The Patriots need to rebuild and is it gonna happen in one season? When you look at the second half of the Patriots season, they were a .500 team going 4-4 and if want to add the wild card game to that, that puts them below .500, that’s 4 wins in a 9 game stretch. In their regular season losses, they gave up an average of 28 points a game.
Patriots fans are complaining that Brady doesn’t have weapons or an O Line and that’s why they lost the Wild Card Game. So going forward are the Patriots going to have a formidable defense complete with weapons on the offensive side of the ball?
So the real question is, do the Patriots want to rebuild a team around a QB that is going to be 43 at the start of the 2020 season?
Man, the blunt honesty of these guys is amazing and a pure pleasure to watch! Some of the best perspectives on pro football to be found anywhere -- and in openly addressing the gap between the player/coach community and the ownership/front office of any NFL team, James Harrison is illuminating an aspect of NFL corporate culture that too many fans prefer to ignore in their enthusiasm for their particular team....
Still has a lot to prove? What, play until he's 65, winning 18 super bowls and owning the NFL?
Yes
@J Belichick has won his last superbowl as well.
Probably
Marino be like, “ let me get one of those super bowls”
Wiley you truly need your own show!!!
Tom Brady didn't take a haircut😆😆😆 1:15
And no one corrected him
Wiley's the most objective and honest cat on this panel.
With Whitlock on this. He was their good soldier keeping people in line. What he feels is right but this is business...
wakawaka1976 business can be cold hearted at times
It is a business and they can make WAY more money with Tom on the team. Brady has been top five in jersey sales for over a decade. He is getting old. Fans are willing to pay to see him play if they think they will lose the opportunity to do so in the near future. Look at D.Wade's retirement. His jerseys were selling as fast as they could make them. If they play up the whole "Could this be his last year? Come see his last game!" they can really cash in on Brady's presence. On top of that, if Brady goes to another team and starts balling, it will look very bad. Belicheck will look bad, he may even lose the locker room. Tom inspires guys. They respect and believe in him. He makes New England a popular spot for offensive free agents. Guys like Beckam, Landry, Diggs, etc. Want to play with him. Bill can sell that in free agency. "Come play with the only player in the NFL with six super bowl rings and help him get #7 and make history!" The alternative is "Come catch passes from a 4th round white Jameis Winston". If Bill doesn't keep Brady, he needs to aggressively go for Tannehill or Bridgewater.
I will argue that Brady owes Belichick, he has had a dominant D defense his whole Career, had a beast of a TE for Three SB wins (he was Bradys outlet and savior a lot of the games)
Brady is a great QB but he benefited from a great coach
So if they pay Brady a low ball salary the locker room wouldn’t respect him? What a dumb comment. He’s been taking a hometown discount most of his career!
They wouldn’t respect management. Brady isn’t going to take a discount either.
I for one am getting really tired of Whitlock’s takes on Brady, BB and the Patriots
Tom Brady is goat, BB is one of the goats and the Patriots are the goat franchise, so eat all of Whitlock's criticisms now that y'all are finally looking mortal.
He’s there to provide an alt sports media narrative
Just a man that cant accept that its time to retire. Go out on top before you get seriously injured.
Bill will put any player out to pasture.
Didn't he try when he drafted Jimmy Garoppolo , but Tom went and cried to daddy and got Jimmy traded. And now look at San Fran playing good ball.
@@synapticflow I don't know if Tom cried to Kraft, but it's the only time Bill didn't get his way. I don't think that will happen again either.
Pat's fan....YESSSSS HE WILL, 🙄😡
@@synapticflow Jimmy has 2 rings which he wouldn't have if he was starting not TB12! He threw 3 more TDs and 4 more ints while going under 4k in yards this season. With an all pro TE and better receivers
@Red HawK15 what happened to bills D in the other SB where Brady shattered the passing yards in a SB with over 500??
its simple. kraft has to choose between coach or quarterback because bill belichick does not want tom brady and was forced to trade jimmy g because tom went over his head and cried like a little girl to the owner. they made a deal and now toms time is up.
That's a Great Quote by Tom Brady. I generally don't say that in regards to him.
Brady and his attitude. My gosh
Belechick wishing he had Jimmy G right now
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Robert Kraft wanted Jimmy G traded. Bill Belichick wanted to trade Tom Brady and keep Jimmy G. That's exactly why owners shouldn't be trying to interfere with football operations, especially when they have hired others to do the job.
Exactly.
Bryan Rivers Jimmy is playing this week no?
@@aregimechangeisimminent5781 Ah yes. The classic Brady sux argument. Not actually a point, just a hypothetical. Stay mad.
@Bryan Rivers
Ok and why are you telling me basic simple-minded stuff, that I know already?
LaVar really likes that "touch of grey" stuff.
Coach Bilichick owes Brady everything players play the games coaches watch
At 8:20 Whitlock talking about walking a thin line. Good luck with that! Lmao.
yeah walking a thin line would be tough for Whitlock but not as dangerous as going out on the limb.
TB is too immobile, he needs a specific set of players around him to compensate. So BB has to change a lot of the team or get rid of one.....
Y'all missed the most obvious "maybe" and that is, Belichick contemplating the window of opportunity closing on him proving that he could have done all this without Brady and Brady thinking likewise. This drama is all about "Egos"
Only Tom knows what Tom is thinking so keep on speculating and wasting air time . Never had a QB done so much with so little !
"'He's not [used to tips]!'
But we GAVE it to him."
-Marcellus Wiley
Id love to see Brady play for a new team, all the other open teams have weapons he can use, Pats need a fresh start, especially with Bill and Bradys relationship.
No. He stays.
JSkitt I’d love to watch him struggle as a .500 team. It will totally validate that he was a terrible QB and only had success because he played under Belicheat!
OnYourKillList haha even if he goes .500 he is 43 next year! In his prime with another team he would still have gotten superbowls. Not as many of course they are the best duo in all of football but don’t be ignorant
Osamaben Laid He only has his legacy to tarnish somewhere else. He’s an idiot for not retiring.
@@onyourkilllist6880 '
Brady was NOT a terrible QB. Was he the most athletic QB to ever play the game? No. Did he have the best arm? No. But there is no measure of "Heart". The man has always had a burning desire to WIN. He never quits. He has won games that other QB's would have folded. He has had enough ability and more than enough intelligence to play the game. He's slowed down a bit, which is understandable. He was never one to avoid a rush very well. But with good players, to throw the ball too and the ability to READ Defenses, he has won more Championships than anyone.
None of that is happening, Brady and Bill are together until death do them part. Brady will retire before Bill retires . Done, facts, as young folk/ new age media likes to say.
Knowing bill he probably sabotage this season for Brady
It.s hard to say. Way too many injuries. Ab getting released. The entire offensive line is practice squad.
Bill has to lock up Joe Thuney at all costs.
Lol considering what bill did for Tom in the last 4 year when Tom betrayed bill by going to craft to trade away Jimmy g. I said Tom Owe bill not the another way around
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff So Brady betrayed Bill by trying to keep his job? You're not too bright.
Bill runs his team by the system not the player. I doubt he'll change now. Personally I think the league has finally caught up to the Pats. Brady should leave though. Why play for a coach that doesn't want you...The 🐐 can play anywhere and win right?
So you don't think this was just simply somebody explaining that it's OK to lose sometimes? As long as you learn? Seemed like a class act to me. Brady isn't going anywhere, and if hes does, I'll be rooting for him on that team. Plain n simple
As many teams that have historically played the loyalty card one can certainly see it being dealt in this case.
I think we underestimate their relationship firstly. I think Bill is the guy who says (privately) hey, the money will always be here for you and so will a future, we have the greatest dynasty in football. Why don't you dip your toe into the market, see what its like, force teams to pay more, to offer more, set a new standard, see what you'll be offered. It doesn't hurt to do what MJ did, give me a lot for a little amount of time, check out Peyton's post Colt's career.
Brady is a Benevolent king, he is content with riding away into the sunset no qualms, no need for 'get back' there is no indictment on Tom Brady. He has proved himself. The legacy is complete
This aged well…🤣🤣🤣
Marcellus is Right ON !!!
He didn't take a "Haircutt", LOL!!!!
It's a bad move on management's part. Stidham is not the heir apparent in any way shape or form.
If it can happen to Joe Montana, it can happen to ANYBODY .
All of these opinions on why Tom said this, how Tom Brady said that..... We can all do the same. Can I get a job with these guys?
Patriots fans are still crying about the smacking Titans gave them at Foxboro.
Let the GOAT 🐐 play until the wheels fall off!
All I know is that Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and a number of other GOATS and top players were moved on from and played elsewhere.
Can only be one goat!🤔
@Pone Vongsouvan
😂😂😂😂 Earl the pearl manigault was also "the GOAT"!
@Pone Vongsouvan
Farmer.😁
Desr FS1 SFY 🔮 #StraightTrade Tom Brady to Dallas Cowboys for Dak Prescott to New England Patriots 🏈 (neither one has a contract...yet)
I'm not even a Brady fan......but he is that great and if he think he can play longer he probably should be a Patriot.....I think that would be the right way for him to finish as a player. But I think his receivers need to do better if he stays.
Win or lose Tom Brady is one of the better quarterback in the NFL everyone loses everyone isn't Tom Brady so this season didn't turn out good for the Patriots but noing Brady he will be back next season so good luck patriots
Let's think about Farve. He lost it, Aaron Rodgers got put in. Bye bye Farve. Then comes back and wants his job back lol. Not the same situation but it makes me think of that whole awkwardness.
Does not matter what Brady says or types...Sports Media will try and turn it into some cryptic message and actually have a whole DEBATE segment about it....Some of these Sports Media shows are so Desperate for Topics
Imagine Bill Belichick with a young mobile quarterback...
I was thinking that's what he may want to explore going forward.
@Chris Biddzz so your telling me that you never cheating before play boy?
Mike Kiviranta imagine Brady has covered Bill’s coaching flaws. Fact: Bill sucks at drafting skill players.
Omg crazy
Bill passed up on Lamar so I’m not sure he even wants a mobile QB.
Ha Ha! I think Marcellus could be a preacher.
Game is changing, mobile quarterbacks are in demand.
Harrison hit the nail on the head
3M Buccaneer (Lions, Browns) fans say team love IS unconditional.
I'm a Patriot's Fan. I mean I am a fan of the Patriot Way. And I'm sorry, but the Patriot Way is WINNING. It's not the losing of this year. Especially not the way they lost this year. It's the HOW of the losing. That was a truly terrible offense for virtually all of the year. It was just last year that EVERYONE was making the point that the Patriot system helped Brady win. It was a mutual thing but it did NOT depend on lots of individual talent. You didn't have to be a star player, but you had to be a TEAM player. And it worked. All those years. But not last year when for many reasons (but at least a fair amount of which were on the performance of TB) it didn't work. In fact it crashed and burned. A Patriot TEAM got worse as the season progressed. Worse to the point they lost the last game against MIAMI at HOME, and then did nothing really against The Titans. The system didn't change. People didn't execute. And TB was absolutely among those people.
BB is there to WIN. He was probably right in 2015 but no-one can complain about 2016-2018. No-one.
2019 ----- That's a whole different story. LOTS of not good stuff. Get credit for the ups : Gotta expect blame when it all goes down.
Bottom Line. For the FUTURE the Patriots HAVE to move-on. They need their new QB. Now not a year or two from now. Stats don't lie. Not over time. Change is coming. Gotta be done.
All Greats Move On😎
If the Patriots don't sign him, there are a few teams I can see taking a swing at using him to transition to a new QB, top of my list is Carolina. Newton is done, whether he admits it or not, his heart isn't in it anymore and his physical situation has him looking at backup money wherever he goes next. His trade value isn't high, no one is going to give a high pick of top flight player to get him. I don't see anyone posting up big numbers to sign a big name with with NO future and few skills left. Brady would be a good fit in Carolina, a team that needs ONE really good WR and a good QB to get them over this next 2 years while they get the rest of the players they need.
The Pats don't have a replacement for TB12. They need to get him back or start a rebuild. I believe Kraft will step in and settle things.
Hunter Henry, AJ Green or another true #1 X will being him back. Otherwise he's headed to LA would be my guess
Ryan Rhoades that line is terrible tho
@@ifimlyingimdying in LA?? I didn't watch a lot of their games just know skill position wise they have a great skill player's
As a brady fan I want to see him in LA or some where with some weapons
Or Gronkowski comes back! It would be the biggest story in sports! One more bro!
I wouldn’t mind seeing him in LA either , but I just know the o Line isn’t the best ... Colts maybe ? Titans ?
Tom Brady asked to be let out of his deal and Kraft allowed it. Tom has never been a unrestricted free agent in his 20 years
Tom Brady need to retire. I would not invest my money in 42 year old quarterback.
Except he's the best player in all of sports history. So...
John Doe this isn’t a lifetime achievement award you base it on his career instead of right people Jordan the goat that doesn’t mean a nba team is going sign him to contract at age 56 right now he’s not the best player in sports you need to stop
You couldn’t afford him
Dont let this distract you from the fact that Bill Belichick had a losing record when he was the HC of cleveland
Don't let this distract you that Bill didn't get to pick his own players in Cleveland and in my entire life Cleveland dont have winners as coaches yet Belichick is the last browns coach to win a playoff game that's before they became the Ravens lol
Don't let this distract you from your cherrypicking. The only reason his record there looks bad is that he walked into a 3-13 disaster.
Then took them to 11-5 with a WC win in 4 years.
Doug dont let this mess you up as he nor anyone won anything in 53 years at least but do take heed that when he started doing his own grocery shopping he started winning big time he even got Cassel and Goropollo and Brissett in Indianapolis not to bad as every time they were called on in new England they did pretty well he also made something out of that 199th pick Brady guy lol
Hes also the last Cleveland coach to win a playoff game and it was against new England with Bill Parcels as the Patriots head coach that's pre Ravens lol
They’re looking way too much into all this..
Yes, He put a house up for sale then bought another in Connecticut.
His contract was a 2 year contract. Brady made it a 1 year.
This wasn’t exactly his worst season stat wise 2013 wasn’t great either.
Both years the receiving corps was pretty bad.
He thanked the fans and that’s about it.
I want Brady back, but he needs to treat it like it's his rookie year and show up to all mini camp activities. He needs to start getting familiar with the team from the jump.
I don't know Wiley. what if none of them wanted to tag on Brady? So they could avoid paying the top average price and a be able to afford to keep him on the cheap and put players around him?
Could be wrong, but wherever Brady goes, I don’t think it’s going to be about cashing in. He’s never really don’t that all his career. The guy is focused on winning and legacy and I think what he really wants is investment in top talent around him so he can win. Belichick has always been focused on value in players and I think Brady is really saying, “I’m near the end of my career. Enough of the value. Get me some marquee free agent offensive players NOW.”
TB12🔥
Marcellus spitting truth.
Brady says he has something more to prove because he wants to prove that he can win a Super Bowl without Belichick. He wants to prove that he isn't just the worlds greatest system QB.
Also. Dude said hair cut, not pay cut.
@810 JAMARI *every successful QB
Tannehill wasn't a system QB. Now he is.
Lamar wasn't a system QB. Now he is.
Plenty of coaches out there have it in their head that their QBs and players need to fit their playbook, not the other way around. Refer to Chip Kelly's Eagles or McCarthy's later Packers.
There is no right answer
Qtrback picked last in the draft would not have survived in the NFL with some other teams.
43 million dollar house...wow! That must be some house!
It’s Brookline Massachusetts, lots of Boston university, Boston college and Harvard elite rich peoples live there so it inflates the values of homes there
I pray he comes to Chicago
Bam, right on point. Love it
Look people there isn't a QB out there that could work with the line in front of Brady his line had injuries he is not retiring or going anywhere else they will fix it and I really believe that
... today on PTI, Dungy said Brady would be a good fit for Indianapolis !!! with their very good offense - receivers & offensive line .... maybe ???
Pats have 19 free agents, can`t sign them all, or ask them to take a pay cut, do you give up on your defense to rebuild your offense?
I have read all the posted opinions up to this point in time and I haven't found one that was incorrect.
He will stay in New England that offense is built to protect him .
This was good dialogue.
Any team would gladly take Tom Brady because the simple fact he gives you a chance to win a super bowl. Look what Peyton did in Denver. Do you think looking back now the Colts would still take Luck over Manning knowing they could have got 1 more championship?
Manning wasn’t 42 years old, and he doesn’t throw a tantrum on the sidelines when things weren’t going their way.
I'm already over this whole thing
Fr, it's all talk at this point. Just wanna see whay Brady does lol, he's the only one that can shut these fools up.
I honestly watch clips of these sports shows to keep up with what’s going on . I could never make it through an entire show. Because it’s at its core show business, they are basically making things up to keep people interested and talking - as a former business owner , you reward your best employees based on talent ,consistency showing up and giving your best every day - if you do those things Your business will be successful- This is what Kraft will and should do and it’s simple get brady some offensive help
Two consistent receivers and the patriots are in the super bowl -
Great points! The best sports show aired!
Undisputed sucks!
First of all not every single team besides the Patriots want him. Stop with "the other 31 teams". Chiefs, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Cowboys, Eagles, Rams, Titans, Vikings, Raiders and Giants have their future quarterbacks or have their quarterbacks for the next 3 or 4 years. Second, Brady should just retire. My god for christ sake retire you have nothing to prove you have 6 rings he makes it sound like that's not enough or he is being called overrated
Lol cowboys vikings giants all could is qbs. They got qbs who are utter garbage
Bill Belichick has **eight** Super Bowl Champion rings--he doesn't have to compromise **any** football values for anyone!
Brady should leave them,take Edelman with him,and Gronk would then unretire to join them .
@T. A.A Please. Those three would enhance any team. Go play some more fantasy football.
Everyone lives in the moment we all think mobile or running quarterbacks are the answer thats just the trend now pocket passer is the ultimate solution if u want to win a superbowl bottom line
And that will always be the answer at that level I agree Sue
They make so much out of nothing. Tom thanked his fans and clearly said he wants to be back. He doesn’t want the franchise tag because that would ear too much money to sign other players end of story
That’s the issue with having a steady winning team, you get low picks year after year. Can’t build a better team like that
Not even with an extra 100M in cap space?
1:16..a HAIRCUT or pay cut?
Rodino Wright I caught that also
It's a common saying. "Getting a haircut" means getting less in profit or income. "The company could have paid its employees more, but the CEO didn't want to get a haircut."
Taking a “haircut” is common business slang when someone or an entity takes slightly less.
Why do they keep saying 31 other teams? Realistically if New England doesn’t want him
Ravens no
Chiefs no
Texans no
Packers no
And the list goes on it’s maybe about 8 teams that will be willing to sign him as their starter if that many even the teams that really need a QB and aren’t in win now mode can get a rookie on a rookie deal so why get Brady?
Hello from Canada. Tom Brady not playing in New England is like Jeter and Kobe (R.I.P.) playing somewhere else. It's as American as you can get (apple pie)
Belichick's QB was in the super bowl . He could have gotten some good players for Brady last year . Belichick looks to the future
Brady will make his decision on what the Pat's draft and free agency picks. If not good enough he will call it quits.
What if Belicheck is ready for a new challenge? To see what he can do without Brady as his QB. Nothing wrong with that.
I believe both Bill and Tom want to separate in order to prove they can be successful apart from one another.
But that is a dangerous game for both to play...not sure I'd want to risk the legacy that I built. Tom goes off to another team and sucks; they'll say "yep...we were right...system quarterback"; he goes out and wins another SuperBowl (which means Belichick didn't win it); they'll say "yep....we were right...Belichick is not so great without Tom Brady".
What if Bellichick had Drew Brees? Do you think Brees would be the goat? CERTAINLY.
Tom Brady didn’t have any good weapons this year but his age beginning to show on the playing field.
Agree... I think the talent on this years offense was better than what they had in 2006
There's a small viable market for Tom. Miami, Las Vegas, L.A., and maybe Pittsburgh. He can go to Pittsburgh and win two more Super Bowls. L.A. Is the sexy option, but won't bring home a championship there.
Wait belicek has values?? Since when??
the giants had to make the same decision regarding eli manning ..