malik Bailey nah dewight was overrated when he played he only seemed good because he was In Orlando a small market he was a big fish in a small pond he was carried by tayshaun prince hedo and Rashard Lewis and vince carter . Now Kyrie Irving was blackballed from the top 75 team kid
@@darnellwilliams8783 stop it lmao dwight was really good for around years yes even with the lakers and for like the first year in houston. Mans definitely didn’t get carried in the playoffs either, clearly the best player for his team with orlando. But hey at least dwight could make it to the finals being the best player on his team while being good on both sides of the ball unlike kyrie 🤷🏽♂️ even accolades wise d12 clears kyrie (kyrie not even a top 5 candidate for who got snubbed tbh)
It's crazy to think that if Dwight somehow received a career ending injury before he went to LA or even Houston he probably would've made the 75 team. People don't put him in that conversation because they feel like those later years take away from his prime. It doesn't. His prime cemented him in that conversation and nothing can take that away from him. The rest of his career only adds to his argument. Regardless of whether its a tiny addition because he was toxic and his impact was minimal there is no way to use it to subtract what he already accomplished. The fact he was also a huge contributer to a second ring later in his career should've had him even more in that conversation. Dwight being left off that 75 team was an absolute sin and those who made the list should be ashamed that they didn't include him.
I will never hate on Dwight, when I was in HS playing basketball, I had the 2 adidas armbands like he wore, I wanted to grow so tall so I could play like him
Melo is fringe top 75. you can argue either way, but there is no way in hell that he should be on it and Dwight isn't that's insane. it shouldn't even be a question if Dwight is top 75 lol
Because everyone was already on dame and AD. Also it’s not cuz Melo doesn’t deserve it, it’s that it’s hard to look at Dwight’s career and melo’s career and say that Melo deserves it over Dwight. Dwight clearly had the better career and was more productive in the playoffs
I wouldn't even call his career a "downfall" he just got old.. like most players do. I been telling people Bron fucked the perspective of longevity up as he's still expected to produce like he's 27. He has had a fantastic carreer, shout out Dwight
I can't grasp how Melo or Dame made it over Dwight into the Top 75. Melo is just a slightly more efficient T-Mac(T-Mac being one of the most overrated players to ever play, in my opinion.), and the battery in Dame's watch has always been a lil iffy. Dwight's Orlando years alone were better than those two's entire careers combined.
Na Kobe and the lakers dawged him to the craziest degree. The fans, the staff, and Kobe were mad unprofessional let’s be real. You can motivate someone through encouragement but people in sports don’t get that. Competition doesn’t have to be venomous. Losing Dwight Howard’s proven potential is a real fumbled bag
LA treated him fine. People need to realize that there is a certain expectation that comes along with playing for one of these legacy teams. Especially when you're playing with Hof like Kobe and Gasol... Who had just come off of recent back to back chips. Same with WB this year. If you play like garbage, Laker fans will let you know. If you play well and give it your all, you will be loved. Look at guys like Fisher, Caruso, Odom etc.
Even though Dwight Howard had a tragic downfall in his prime don't forget that his defense was his offense in 2009 and that Russel Westbrook averaged a triple double and mj taking it personally was his playing plus stephs offense is his defense and he's one dimensional??
The Melo disrespect...he's like top 10 all time scorer, multiple all star, multiple olympic gold medals, ncaa champion and in denver he was a beast! Look it up my gs
For American players, multiple olympic gold medals is equivalent to good enough to make the olympic team more than once, but the latter sounds much less impressive
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 I hear you about the Olympics...but what does that say about DH? A top 10 ALL TIME scorer is elite whichever way you cut it. He also lead a team to the WCF too
Calling the 2013 Lakers a superteam is being straight disrespectful to Kobe. Injured Dwight and 40 year old Nash who barely touched the court is not a super team. Kobe literally had to play mad games and do everything just to get them in the playoffs. It's why he got injured, if that's what it takes to be a failed super team then the Celtics are definitely a failed superteam. Put together the best roster in basketball to win only one chip. Even Kobe and Pau got two.
“Disrespectful to Kobe” I don’t want to hear that, Kobe was trash too. Bro averaged 22 on 35% shooting and 20 shot attempts w a 8 fta average. Nigga was ass
I’m ngl I’d take CP, Kobe, Dwight trio over the Heat. Kobe and Bron will be a wash as far as point production, CP can bother an aging Wade and give him buckets, and Dwight vs Bosh is a great matchup for the Lakers. I say they got it in 6 or 7
I would take the Lakers too if CP3 could change Dwight's attitude toward being mainly a PnR big. If not, they still have the petty locker room issues to stifled some of their success irl.
I would take them healthy especially when you consider even the real timeline was shut down moreso from Achilles than chemistry. No telling what may have happened if Kobe never got hurt. Wish CP3 had been.
The only bad year Dwight had was with Atlanta. He was still the best center in the league with LA, he was great in Houston before he got injured again, and he was really good in Charlotte where he put up a 30/30 game. Then he’s a pivotal piece of a chip in L.A. on his return. His fall is completely overblown, and he has 8 years of being the best center in basketball and a top 5 defensive center of all time. The thought that he’s not a top 75’er or even a 1st ballot Hall of Famer is absurd.
It's not about Carmelo getting into the top 75 lisr verses Dwight. It's about AD getting in b4 Dwight. That's nuts. Dwight lead the league in resounds and blocks and was the defensive player of the yr all 3 times each.
This is my 3rd year saying 2k need to add that magic team to the classics roster! Imo the more classic teams the better it will only shine more light causing fans to go back and possibly become a fan= more money💯 Howard should be a 93-94 and Jameer Nelson should be 87-89
Bro I legit forgot the fear niggas had to jump when in Dwight presence. Watching Dwight in his prime last second block someone who thought they were in the clear was amazing
Can’t believe you decided to bring out Melo as an example but didn’t mention Dame made the top 75? Dame over Dwight all time is ridiculous, and I’m a Dame fan.
Yeah Dwight was in the conversion just cuz of Wade injuries, between 2003 and 2009, the best NBA player debate (not talking about MVP) was between Kobe, Wade, Lebron, AI and KG, literally no one else
As a Hawks fan, I remember prime Dwight just like it was yesterday bc he always smoked us. He was literally Shaq reincarnated and that’s not even a hot take. The disrespect this dude gets is wild.
I always thought it was hilarious that Tracy McGrady left the Magic right before they drafted Dwight, and he never even got to the finals while being in the rotation
I'm sure I'm the only one , but im also a dbz fan , and when I thought about dwight howards body type he always reminded Me of Cell. Just a UNIT. tall asf , broad ass shoulders
Nah when they do the NBA top 100 list they have to start taking players from the original top 50 and top 75 out. Aint no way there's 75 players better than Dwight all time
11:30 it’s debatable I think but yeah people underrate how good prime cp3 is I think the lakers would of took it if anyone could make Dwight look like a superstar it would be cp3 and Kobe is Kobe.
C'mon man, let's not act like d12 wouldn't get his ass whooped by greg monroe and Andrew Drummond. Dwight played during a time where centers were booty. Of course I'm joking, but still, Dwight really should have been in the top 75 fr fr.
In his prime, Dwight defense was his offense 😔
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Even though his prime didn’t last as long because of injuries it’s a shame he wasn’t on the 75th team.
malik Bailey nah dewight was overrated when he played he only seemed good because he was In Orlando a small market he was a big fish in a small pond he was carried by tayshaun prince hedo and Rashard Lewis and vince carter . Now Kyrie Irving was blackballed from the top 75 team kid
@@darnellwilliams8783 Dwight has a better accomplishments than Kyrie. Dwight is a 8x all star, 8x all nba, and has 3 dpoy trophies.
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@@darnellwilliams8783 dwight beat lebron and went to the nba finals with that Orlando team.
@@darnellwilliams8783 stop it lmao dwight was really good for around years yes even with the lakers and for like the first year in houston. Mans definitely didn’t get carried in the playoffs either, clearly the best player for his team with orlando. But hey at least dwight could make it to the finals being the best player on his team while being good on both sides of the ball unlike kyrie 🤷🏽♂️ even accolades wise d12 clears kyrie (kyrie not even a top 5 candidate for who got snubbed tbh)
One of my favorite players in Orlando. Then he had that first year in Houston where he had 26&14 in the playoffs then Harden Ball took over.
Damian Lillard is also top 75 over Howard. Disgusting🤢. Major disrespect.
Not only dame but Anthony Davis too
They disrespected Dwight and Klay
Get dames name out your mouth
nah ad is disrespectful dame deserves to be there tho no question
@@KADE.7 W take
It's crazy to think that if Dwight somehow received a career ending injury before he went to LA or even Houston he probably would've made the 75 team. People don't put him in that conversation because they feel like those later years take away from his prime. It doesn't. His prime cemented him in that conversation and nothing can take that away from him. The rest of his career only adds to his argument. Regardless of whether its a tiny addition because he was toxic and his impact was minimal there is no way to use it to subtract what he already accomplished. The fact he was also a huge contributer to a second ring later in his career should've had him even more in that conversation. Dwight being left off that 75 team was an absolute sin and those who made the list should be ashamed that they didn't include him.
Ain’t nobody finna read allat
@@Kjklout 25 people liked his comment so 25 people did read that.🤔 Fuckin npc
@@Kjklout Watches a 20 minute video but can't read a single paragraph👍🤣
@@FoulTarnished47 lol I mean you don’t have to read in the video 😂
he should be in the 75 team unanimously even with that injury. Thats why the outrage was there
I will never hate on Dwight, when I was in HS playing basketball, I had the 2 adidas armbands like he wore, I wanted to grow so tall so I could play like him
Prime Dwight’s defense was actually different. Kind of like Steph Curry’s offense which also happens to be his defense
Dwight absorbed the other 7 babies’ power 💀
This is so wrong but so funny
Carmelo being on top 75 but No Dwight is insane
We won't let you forget when you clowned Rusty Buckets for picking him in the NBA 75 draft
that wasn't nice fr...they smoked rusty for that take
They were trolling Rusty but the chat took it serious. I remember being confused asf cuz I had thought they were serious 🤣
I don't care who would have won, those two superteams would be amazing to watch in the Finals.
the fact that dame made the list over dwight is insane. he shouldn’t have made it over kyrie
Dwight is an EASY top 75 player of all time, and if you made an argument for him being a top 50 player of all time, I genuinely wouldn't be mad
Dwight during his prime was all-time defense.
Didn't ya'll roast the fuck out of rusty for picking dwight in the all time draft LOL
Y'all aiming at Melo but should really be aiming at AD and Dame being in the 75
Dame and melo fasho I’m biased toward AD 😂
Melo is fringe top 75. you can argue either way, but there is no way in hell that he should be on it and Dwight isn't that's insane. it shouldn't even be a question if Dwight is top 75 lol
@@shepardice3775 top 10 scorer of all time is barley top 75?
@@kingrodney441 casuals didn't see his nuggets career and got robbed of the roty while bein in the playoffs
Because everyone was already on dame and AD. Also it’s not cuz Melo doesn’t deserve it, it’s that it’s hard to look at Dwight’s career and melo’s career and say that Melo deserves it over Dwight. Dwight clearly had the better career and was more productive in the playoffs
I wouldn't even call his career a "downfall" he just got old.. like most players do. I been telling people Bron fucked the perspective of longevity up as he's still expected to produce like he's 27. He has had a fantastic carreer, shout out Dwight
Dwight Howard was only 29 during 2015-2016 season
He's a 3 time DPOY and an NBA champion, yet he's not even top 75.
Old? He was in his prime when he got injured
I can't grasp how Melo or Dame made it over Dwight into the Top 75. Melo is just a slightly more efficient T-Mac(T-Mac being one of the most overrated players to ever play, in my opinion.), and the battery in Dame's watch has always been a lil iffy. Dwight's Orlando years alone were better than those two's entire careers combined.
😂😂😂battery a lil iffy I love it
@@McWms99 😂 I've been leery of that watch for a minute
14:47 Sage’s reaction had me dead. Melo making the top 75 and Dwight not making it is crazy.
Dwight Howard, at One point in time was the best center in the NBA. Prime Dwight was an absolute monster and he shoulda been in the Top 75.
Na Kobe and the lakers dawged him to the craziest degree. The fans, the staff, and Kobe were mad unprofessional let’s be real. You can motivate someone through encouragement but people in sports don’t get that. Competition doesn’t have to be venomous. Losing Dwight Howard’s proven potential is a real fumbled bag
He played like shit
They really don’t talk about how la treated him just how he treated them lol
LA treated him fine. People need to realize that there is a certain expectation that comes along with playing for one of these legacy teams. Especially when you're playing with Hof like Kobe and Gasol... Who had just come off of recent back to back chips.
Same with WB this year. If you play like garbage, Laker fans will let you know. If you play well and give it your all, you will be loved.
Look at guys like Fisher, Caruso, Odom etc.
@@leeqthe2nd721 Dwight played well for them tho. WB played abysmal this year. Dwight was 20 and 10 minimum
@@leeqthe2nd721 and not to mention Dwight Literally had better stats than all the players you named
People act like Howard wasn’t that guy🤦🏽♂️
Even though Dwight Howard had a tragic downfall in his prime don't forget that his defense was his offense in 2009 and that Russel Westbrook averaged a triple double and mj taking it personally was his playing plus stephs offense is his defense and he's one dimensional??
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Ok cool but how does ANY of this effect LeBron's legacy?
My head hurts. But did u know that Curry invented gravity?
@@timothylane3196 6-0 in the finals. Kevin Durant can do everything Curry can while being 7 feet tall. Romeo Langford is better than MJ
That Melo hate was crazy 🤦🏿♂️
dame lilliard making it to the top 75 is still the most shittiest decision ever.
The Melo disrespect...he's like top 10 all time scorer, multiple all star, multiple olympic gold medals, ncaa champion and in denver he was a beast! Look it up my gs
For American players, multiple olympic gold medals is equivalent to good enough to make the olympic team more than once, but the latter sounds much less impressive
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 I hear you about the Olympics...but what does that say about DH? A top 10 ALL TIME scorer is elite whichever way you cut it. He also lead a team to the WCF too
Honestly Dwight’s probably closer to Top 50 than Top 75
Of course melo was top 75 , he's currently 9th all time in scoring .
did you know russel westbrook averaged a triple double?
But is he tween tween tho
@@supertaco197 No but Curry's offense is his defense
@@delmorelouis639how does this affect lebrons legacy.
Calling the 2013 Lakers a superteam is being straight disrespectful to Kobe. Injured Dwight and 40 year old Nash who barely touched the court is not a super team. Kobe literally had to play mad games and do everything just to get them in the playoffs. It's why he got injured, if that's what it takes to be a failed super team then the Celtics are definitely a failed superteam. Put together the best roster in basketball to win only one chip. Even Kobe and Pau got two.
It's as much of a superteam as the 22 Lakers. That's the fact of the situation.
Bro this is before all that went down the expectations were a lakers vs heat finals
“Disrespectful to Kobe” I don’t want to hear that, Kobe was trash too. Bro averaged 22 on 35% shooting and 20 shot attempts w a 8 fta average. Nigga was ass
2013 lakers was supposed to have Chris Paul
Dwight Howard needs his flowers ong
You guys are honestly super entertaining
Why Boston fans LOVE to bring up being hurt or injured with Kobe but NEVER bring up Andrew Bynum was INJURED in 2008? 🤔
I’m ngl I’d take CP, Kobe, Dwight trio over the Heat. Kobe and Bron will be a wash as far as point production, CP can bother an aging Wade and give him buckets, and Dwight vs Bosh is a great matchup for the Lakers. I say they got it in 6 or 7
I would take the Lakers too if CP3 could change Dwight's attitude toward being mainly a PnR big. If not, they still have the petty locker room issues to stifled some of their success irl.
@@TheBaconBasket1 true valid take
I would take them healthy especially when you consider even the real timeline was shut down moreso from Achilles than chemistry. No telling what may have happened if Kobe never got hurt. Wish CP3 had been.
Bro said “off rip frame one”. Loveit
I just heard someone try to convince me that AD was better than prime Dwight 🤦🏼♂️
Sorry Sage, the 2013 Heat is packing up that Lakers team.
The only bad year Dwight had was with Atlanta. He was still the best center in the league with LA, he was great in Houston before he got injured again, and he was really good in Charlotte where he put up a 30/30 game. Then he’s a pivotal piece of a chip in L.A. on his return. His fall is completely overblown, and he has 8 years of being the best center in basketball and a top 5 defensive center of all time. The thought that he’s not a top 75’er or even a 1st ballot Hall of Famer is absurd.
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It's not about Carmelo getting into the top 75 lisr verses Dwight. It's about AD getting in b4 Dwight. That's nuts. Dwight lead the league in resounds and blocks and was the defensive player of the yr all 3 times each.
L dunk contest take. People dunking off handoffs and people get hype when the random holding the ball is on a hoverboard
This is my 3rd year saying 2k need to add that magic team to the classics roster! Imo the more classic teams the better it will only shine more light causing fans to go back and possibly become a fan= more money💯 Howard should be a 93-94 and Jameer Nelson should be 87-89
Crazy to say Dwight Howard has a better career than Melo. That's major disrespect right there. These boys have no clue what they are talking about.
Bro I legit forgot the fear niggas had to jump when in Dwight presence. Watching Dwight in his prime last second block someone who thought they were in the clear was amazing
I thought they were going to watch Rusty's video on it especially since they're featured in it if I'm correct
Cp0?? Thats cp4 n**** man i love this guy
He's a future Hall of Famer. Maybe first ballot. There's no such thing as a tragic downfall for him.
Then y'all roasted the F out of Rusty when he picked Dwight on your podcast. Lol
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Ya worried about Melo vs Dwight career but Dame is in the nba 75 too
From the day the Top 75 came out up until today, I stay in disbelief that a group of people put Carmelo Anthony and Damion Lillard in over Dwight.
Can’t believe you decided to bring out Melo as an example but didn’t mention Dame made the top 75? Dame over Dwight all time is ridiculous, and I’m a Dame fan.
solz and sage both missed at 1:02 when a babyfaced someone was in the picture with Dwight Howard, I almost couldn't believe that it was him
Solz talking a lot for a Celtic super team that won just 1 chip compared to Kobe’s Lakers 2 chips and dwights 1 chip
Dwight is a top 100 player all time no question
Yeah Dwight was in the conversion just cuz of Wade injuries, between 2003 and 2009, the best NBA player debate (not talking about MVP) was between Kobe, Wade, Lebron, AI and KG, literally no one else
"The fact that he can just skip high school and be the first overall pick" homie better watch out for the Jazz if he's coming out of middle school
Sure Dwight Howard's career spiraled downwards, but did you know that Carmelo Anthony in 2022 is a better closer than lebron?
I’ve got a few words for you why they voted melo in but not Dwight “tween hesi splash”🤓🤓🤓
It was so fun watching early 2010s Melo and his game was awesome, but how the *flying* fuck did he get in the top 75 before Dwight?!
peak Dwight was a monster. Top 5 player in the league for a 3 year stretch. 1.Lebron 2.kobe 3.wade 4.dwight.
It’s the hair change. Dwight w the fade was scary
TOP 75 ALL TIME!!! HE IS A HALL OF FAMER
Nba robbed the lakers with that veto. And then they let KD join the warriors?!?!?!? ROBBED
Cp3 lakers squad vs Bron nd heat would have been battling thru out the whole 2010s forreal
Sure Dwight Howard was decent at defense, but steph curry’s offense is his defense💯
HMMMMMMMM. Fax Bruh
No cap shaq mixed wit D12 would be crazy
14:35 THANK YOU!! Finally someone says it!
Shout out to steph for being a combo wing guy, whatever da fuc that means
Yeesh that finals match up woulda been amazing 😭
Facts, prime Dwight destroys prime Melo. Love Melo but not nearly the same impact.
Can we do a stream with yall during the season might be hilarious 😭😂😭🤞🏾🙏🏾
As a Hawks fan, I remember prime Dwight just like it was yesterday bc he always smoked us. He was literally Shaq reincarnated and that’s not even a hot take. The disrespect this dude gets is wild.
“And we didnt have Perk” Benjamin cmon now
I remember that cavs and magic series. The refs did everything they could to make sure the cavs won. The magic was too much though
Dave Bing was a hooper ngl 😂
i looked up dave bing, and bro was lowkey nice he deserves his spot. dwight should def go over AD or dame tho
“He would’ve been CP3 FORREAL this time!!!” 😂😂😂 goat statement 😂
The heat
Dwight Howard not being in the NBA 75 still pisses me off. Lets be honest, his career is so much better than Melo's, Lillard's & AD's.
I always thought it was hilarious that Tracy McGrady left the Magic right before they drafted Dwight, and he never even got to the finals while being in the rotation
1:02 spectacular Betta
Dude he is still a HOFer for sure. So idk. I don’t think it’s that sad. Besides the 75 team. He definitely should have been on that team
Dwight is easily top 75
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I’m surprised y’all didn’t get on dude for comparing Gobert to him lol
I'm sure I'm the only one , but im also a dbz fan , and when I thought about dwight howards body type he always reminded Me of Cell. Just a UNIT. tall asf , broad ass shoulders
Nah when they do the NBA top 100 list they have to start taking players from the original top 50 and top 75 out. Aint no way there's 75 players better than Dwight all time
Not too sure about the David Bing take but I agree Dwight should be in that top 75.
now we gotta do a 2k sim of chris paul on the lakers sheeeesh
I literally was just talking about him today
Idkkkk solz, sounds like you talking abt a 3 year peak ahahaha
ayo ngl CP3 Kobe and Dwight vs the Big 3 Heat thats a good ass series
11:30 it’s debatable I think but yeah people underrate how good prime cp3 is I think the lakers would of took it if anyone could make Dwight look like a superstar it would be cp3 and Kobe is Kobe.
C'mon man, let's not act like d12 wouldn't get his ass whooped by greg monroe and Andrew Drummond. Dwight played during a time where centers were booty. Of course I'm joking, but still, Dwight really should have been in the top 75 fr fr.
U guys forgot to add vid link I’m just tryna keep y’all honest
Gerald green blowing out the candle… Dwight throwing the ball through the rim, idk man I’m applauding all day
as a magic fan dwight is my fav player oat and my hot take is his peak is a top 10-20 off all time i consider his peak to be 07-12
Dwight and Josh Smith Atlanta Celtics AAU team was UNREAL. Howard was ridiculous in HS.
If Mr Garnett wasn't injured? Just gonna forget that Bynum was injured in 08? Just roll past that? 🤣
Bron would have 2 rings rn