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@@DadSavesAmerica Dave you’ll need to save the environmentalists, to whit, in an earnest effort we have now dumped tons of carcinogens onto the devastation. Sort of like the Romans salting the fields
@@JoeK-r3f Do you remember the hole in the ozone layer? The Data from different sources today is so contradictory, it's hard to know what's really going on. The only certainty is that it's not going away because the CFCs are still being produced en mass. There is only one noticeable difference from the 90s and today. And if I mention it, RUclips will censor me. Rome salted Carthage. Carthage used very unspeakable tactics on captured Roman Soldiers. It accomplished some very impossible things, but could never out run the impossibility of its existence the way it did. I grew up in a generation that bankrupted the Soviet Union and peacefully brought an end to Apartheid. It seems impossible to achieve now with today's indoctrinated generation of Americans growing up with a corrupted mass media and political sphere open to the best and worst the world has to offer. #FreeJimmyLai
I’m a Gen-X who has been so saddened by the changes to the environmental movement. Growing up, it was about preservation of wild habitats, reforestation, and what we all can do to clean up our air and local waterways, and even to stop littering. Now it’s carbon, carbon, carbon (not a pollutant) and what we all need to give up to keep the earth from “boiling,” except for the elite, who don’t need to give up anything because they are exempt. It’s so sad how this movement has been ruined.
I was talking with someone the other day how big the littering thing was back in the 80’s and early 90’s. It was about the worst thing you could do. I haven’t heard anything about that, or the other items you mentioned above in a long, long time. The left, and of course the MSM that’s left, is almost entirely focused on CO2 now.
What you may be missing it's it's no longer really about environment or climate change. It's about money. If the Government is on board with something its about putting money in their pockets and the donors they serve.
The reason that we had that view of the environmental movement while growing up is because we had not learned to question the viewpoint we were presented. It turns out that they were always some variant of anti-humanity: Anti-technology, anti-industry, anti-development, and always, always, always anti-capitalist and anti-freedom. Preserving nature was never their reason. It was their pretext.
Born in 66 GenXer here. My parents taught me self reliance, self responsibility, teamwork and problem solving. We gardened, mowed the lawn for ourselves and others, raked leaves, shoveled driveways and had paper routes. And we spent most of our times outside! We camped, canoed, and road inter tubes down rivers. We had great tv, actual honest news and a crap ton of friends. Great rock music as well! Church on Sunday and family meals with the whole family. Let’s go back there. That would be great.
@@timothyblazer1749probably not, but it was a lot less sensational and combative, and the elite groups disdain for the serfs wasn’t as obvious as it is now. The best thing about that time was as a kid, NOT one adult expected kids to be activists or join them in political tirades, you were perfectly free to not give a f**k about anything other than kid things and making decent grades.
I was born in 1967 and I’m sure you heard on the news about how we were going to run out of gas and oil and 10 years blah blah blah in the late 1970s. 😂😂 unlike the millennials and generation Z we didn’t worry about that and we did not let it eat us alive. we went through some hard times, but we didn’t suffer from major anxiety because we were outside getting exercise and eating better. I think video games were bad, but the worst has been social media.
I'm Gen-X. We have a foot in both the "old" world and the "new" world of computing. We were not raised with internet and phones consuming our days. We played outside and lived in the real world.
@@goldismoney5899 damn, that didnt come out right at all. Not the software testing tool, or anything else damn it 🙄 You are correct the old 2d puzzle game loderunner. I actually really liked that game
I told RUclips that climate change is fraudulent and a scam but I still get the notice. Dickholes at the UN, I hope Trump outlaws their influence like my state Louisiana, which put the UN and the WHO on notice as international SCUM
Obama's property at Martha's Vineyard is "predicted" to be underwater imminently. So far the prediction has turned out wrong. Not sure why he would buy a property he believed would be underwater.
@@andywomack3414Do you have a good example of a movement in the last 150 yrs that didn’t go through that progression. I’m been trying to think of one and not coming up with one.
I'm from the last year of the baby boom, and they didn't say it was definitely going to be an ice age. They taught us that it was an argument, and some scientists wondered where the tipping point would be. Warming Warming Warming Tipping point, cooling cooling. They still argue.
Have you read any books on history or nature? A human lives about 70 years. That's barely enough time to watch a creek become a river. What you're talking about takes centuries. You could literally learn that just by looking at any timeline in any history book 😂
Aussie here. I think Gen-Xers are a very unique generation. We grew up throughout our childhood without technology and mod-cons in our homes. No home computers, no diswashers, microwaves were a rarity, no mobile phones etc. Things HAD to be done the old way - BY HAND! To entertain ourselves, we got on our bikes and rode to our friend's house or to some pre-arranged meeting place and stayed out nearly all day. But ONLY after our morning chores were done! We had to be home in time to get our afternoon chores done before dinner. If we weren't, there was hell to pay! Riding our bikes everywhere kept us fit and built strong bones during those critical growing years. Yes, we didn't wear helmets. Yes, we came off our bikes on numerous occasions and took skin off our elbows, knees and countless other body parts. But, usually it was because we did something stupid. It taught us that stupid hurts and that hurting teaches you a lesson! In our teens, not much changed. Computer games started to pop up, but they weren't at home. No - you still needed to get on your bike and ride to the local milk bar or arcade to play them. Also, each game required 20 cents per go! All of those coins in your pocket really weighed you down. As we started our young adult lives, technology started to really take off. But as we were still young, we were able to embrace it. Appreciate how it made things easier (now I'm not so sure). Be excited by the prospect it brought. So yes, Gen X is unique. We have seen life with and without technology/internet/social media and been able to grow with it. At the same time however, we have seen what I term a slow decay in humanity with each "advancement" in technology. We are slowly losing the ability to properly connect with our fellow human beings on a personal, face-to-face level. I think we are becoming a little bit more "robotic" and a little bit less "human" with each big technological leap. No other generation before or after can say the same - generally speaking. Boomers were a bit too old to fully embrace technology as it has grown. Indeed, it seems to be just too confusing for many - and I can see why. Gen Y, Millenials and now Gen Alpha have largely not known life without a computer, dishwasher, microwave, gaming console and smart phones being everyday items around the home. Kids today largely would rather sit around in front of a screen all day than get on a bike and ride 1 KM to a friends house. There's no wonder they don't seem to have the physical and mental toughness of most Gen-Xers. I am truly grateful to be a Gen-X!
You call it "the slow decay in humanity", I refer to it as "the dumbing down of the human race". Seems some people these days think something is not possible, can't be done, unless their is an app for it on their phone. The world up to about 70 years ago was developed without the aid of computers, that is, everything was done manually, by hand or hand made mechanical machinery. Humans are quite capable if we bother to apply ourselves. We need to recognise the current tech can be a good slave but is currently a bad master.
I think Gen -X’ers understand that the world is not a fair place. We don’t try to tip the scales of justice when things don’t go our way. I believe our generation copes better with reality.
I want to believe that, but then I witness the hysteria when women athletes have to prove that they're "strong and equal". Suddenly fairness is the most important thing ever, which is incredible considering how many times I was told in childhood that "Life isn't fair, get used to it."
I turn 50 on June 2025, and I miss riding my bike from morning until sundown and my parents had zero clue where I was. I was a latchkey kid at 9yrs old. If the youth today only knew the freedom and happiness out brought me every summer before I got drivers license. Michael speaks 100% truth.
Same here. I turn 48 in April. And I would hear later on that my parents didnt care or weren't worried about me. But I see that they totally were concerned. But they knew I could handle myself in various situations. That helped make me who I am today. I still thank them even now how they taught me.
I’m going to be 56 in June and the things I see today, all I can say is God help us, money over morals is the highlight of what my RUclips coming soon will talk about, this is what happens when ppls values are measured by money, the old saying is money is the root of all evil, guess we’re seeing that 1st hand, P.Diddy is just 1 example of what we’ve come to
@@moss8702 Pretty sure that would apply to all generations! At least Gen X would do everything possible to try to figure out which photo is real. We are not a trusting generation. Remember most of us were born when Nixon was president!
Heard a Gen X youtuber say the other day that Gen X was a generation that had little parental oversight in the home and none whatsoever outside of it. Add to that the fact that there weren't CCTV cameras and cellphones everywhere, so we were literally on our own and left to our own devices. This means that any Gen Xer you see today is someone who survived the unsupervised wildness we got up to, so really, mess with us at your peril.
Born in 2002 here, have been compared to a boomer by a few people due to the exact same treatment in my childhood. Minimal supervision (not feigning nessecary warnings, like "don't pet a crocodile"), means you learn about the world yourself, with unbiased opinions. At least that was the case for me
There is also a lot of trauma that we won't own up to. But yes, you find stories of a teen going missing and it wasn't reported for a month. Though it's gone too much in the other direction. Now you can't hold an infant incorrectly without someone calling cps.
Yes. Read this comments section and notice that very few are owning up to the fact that, it has been 'boomers' and 'gen Xers' that have been the educators that have poisoned the following generations with 'woke'. They have also been the recipients of stolen tax dollars paid to their media companies to lie and brainwash the masses. Boomers and Gen Xers have been used to create the 'merit killing' 'woke and delusional Frankenstein's', who are threatening western societies today.
Check out Generation Jones - late boomers who are more like Gen-X. It is a useful concept and I am part of the tribe. I don't feel like a boomer at all.
I am 52 and my best friend is 62. She says she is my generation all the time even though not technically true. We do get a long just fine. She does remember things I don't in regards to variety shows and some older music. Other than that I think our views are similar
Umm. .. Boomers, as a group, basically created this mess. You guys stopped us from ascending, stayed in power, took away our opportunity, and then called us "slackers". So nah. .. ill keep my own counsel.
@@johncampbell8098Ah…so that’s what we are. “Generation Jones” I didn’t know that we had a category. I’ve always referred to us as Late-Boomers because most of us don’t fit the Boomer stereotype, but due to the year we were born, we weren’t considered Gen-X. Thanks.
As one of the oldest gen Xers you can be, I remember being taught in second and third grade about global cooling and acid ran destroying the planet. Am I the only one to remember that? Because we were also raised to be cynical and to question everything, I soon came to realize it's all bullshit.
I don't remember being taught about global cooling in schools, but I do remember reading articles about it when doing research for other school projects as a kid.
Yep..I remember that...then when I got older and came home from the Army..all the talk was about global warming..like huh..I thought it was getting cooler..Also remember how plastic bags and bottles was going to save the planet..that worked out well... ruclips.net/video/vUq0JnaIock/видео.htmlsi=T6r1TxVT_sCswEtJ
Gen X here!!!! when I was 10 years old in 1977. I remember hearing them say we were going to run out of oil & gas in 10 years blah blah blah. Ha!!! I did not worry about this as a 10-year-old or a 15-year-old blah blah blah. We didn’t pay much attention of them because they all said the same damn thing it was like they were speaking in tongue. Our outlook and our views were different and many of us were raised Christian and knew that it would work out so why in the hell should we worry about it?
The antihumanism in the environmental movement completely turned me away from it even tho i have always been a bleeding heart for the animals and very much a tree hugger type.
It's not environmental. The Uber rich flying around on jets and moving to the coast seems hypocritical to me. Blowing up a pipeline and creating an environmental catastrophe is not what I had signed up for. Net zero is not good for the planets flower and fauna. It's about control more than anything.
I grew up in California where progressivism reigns and also where resources are scarce such as water and farmable forests. There, a sort of collective preservation worldview develops in one's mind. It feels VERY serious but that we're all in it together, like singing hymns at church, as we share ideas that will save the world. But then I moved to the midwest in 1998 and saw forests so thick that you can't walk through them (a fire hazard if not logged appropriately) and freshwater lakes the size of small oceans, that don't recede or dry up. Seeing the abundance with my own eyes, completely changed my worldview. I grew angry at the California activists who denied the resource abundance and who fought against its consumption by chaining themselves to trees and enacting water-restriction laws in every corner of the state. They take from the water-rich to give to the water-poor. Unfortunately, panicky Californians (Hollywood mostly) are very loud and their problems are always on national news, so the world listens. Sadly, they have no idea that they're in a crisis of their own doing with their golf courses and localized overpopulation, and they think all of us should think and suffer like they do. With that said, I still pray today for the people and the animals who live in the Pacific Palasades area, where they are being consumed by a fire, the water in the pipes have run dry and it could be weeks before it rains. 💔🙏 Sadly, the government will surely crack down on something new after this, digging themselves deeper into an authoritarian culture and the Californians will "happily" comply in order to "save lives" and they will try to convince the rest of us that it's our fault, that we aren't doing enough to prevent their "climate change" demise.
Great points. Glad you progressed. California grows almost all the fruits and vegetables for the whole country. One state. How can you say resources are scarce in CA? The fertility of the Central valley, the massive Sierra snowpack (more water and snow than I've seen anywhere), the oceans teeming with wildlife, the enormous redwoods and extensive forests.... To me California itself is an area of great abundance. I used to suffer from the scarcity mindset .....and I realized scarcity is a human creation. Cheers!... sounds like you've come a long way. I used to be very deep in the environmental movement in California also.
Mike Rowe (of "Dirty Jobs") speaks on safetyism often. His motto - "Safety Third". You can find short clips, under 4 min., where he explains why "Safety First" is a bad idea.
Yes. Whenever I hear the words Health and Safety I cringe. The safer things are made the less individuals take responsibility for themselves. No wonder the younger generations are frightened of everything - climate, pollution, crossing the road!
Wanna know "why" I, as a GenX, don't hear the climate change BS? Because they TRIED to scare me with the Ozone Layer scare AND the Acid Rain scare. And, that didn't fool me AS A KID!🤣🤣🤣
'71 here. The closest I've ever come to activisim is signing a petition to free Mumia (as a joke). Trump isn't going to do shit, but I voted for him anyway because I love that it gets under Millenial's and Zoomer's skins. Another thing, I fucking despise the fact that safety has become hijacked by a self-appointed, civic HR department and we're all treated like toddlers who can barely handle our own lives. No wonder anxiety and other personality disorders are at an all-time high with the younger generations. Stay strong, Xers!
I agree with everything you just said. Though I hope we are both dead wrong about Trump not going to achieve the important goals, but the track record is there unfortunately.
Yes!! Straight up True. They've used the excuse of "for your own safety" for all sorts of legislation that has, quite frankly turned the country (Canada) into a Highschool Library. Things we used to freely do are now illegal or you need to pay a s*** load of money for licenses and when you are doing these things you have to buy expensive safety gear and there is law enforcement everywhere which definitely smothers any sense of a good time. The working man's world is gone. No Pubs, Live Bands and good times on Friday night. No hunting seasons every autumn with guys coming home with thier deer or moose on display in thier pickup truck and everyone honking and congratulating the guys. It's all about CONTROL. The academics have decided that we need our hands held from cradle to grave. I knew all of my neighbours in my subdivision growing up and had a great time with 99 percent of them. Now? I don't know any of my neighbours who live next door and actually have a feeling of fear rather than friendliness towards them. Growing up we were "Citizens" and treated with respect. Now? I feel like a criminal and am regularly treated like one by my government and people in positions of authority. What in hell has happened to us?
I remember when blue hair and septum piercings were for punk rockers and skateboarders. Now that's the dress code of feminists. Either way it's the uniform of untrustworthy people
I miss the days when we all equally made fun of each other and everyone thought it was hysterical. We would try and outdo each other, and applaud the best efforts. I miss those days. It was good fun.
Most Gen-X people don’t identify as part of a cohort and until recently rejected the whole idea. Our point of commonality is being neglected and ignored and a lot of us like it that way. On climate change, i completely agree. 20 years ago when i bought my house, it was as green as one could make it. Now I have teenagers telling me i am the bad guy for not being on board with progressive policies, while they are driving their parents’ $100,000 luxury SUV @13mpg. I used to give a lot of money to charities that are environmentally focused, but 95% of them are now about parties and being cool, and spend very little of their money on anything useful at all. And don’t get me started on ‘equity-based climate initiatives. Nothing like letting a town be destroyed intentionally because mostly white people live there.
As a Gen Xer - I think we had a very low interest in politics. In high school, we thought about normal things - getting your driver's license, parties, friends, girl/boyfriends, etc. We weren't obsessed with what was going on politically and getting intensely involved in activist pursuits. I'm not sure if it was the advent of the internet or what, but I always wondered if being constantly bombarded with news/propaganda and being that angry and scared at such a young age had a negative effect on the subsequent generations.
Yeah this is why it annoys the shit out of me when gen X acts so self-righteous. Youre right. You werent interested in politics. Neither were the boomers. Gen x is only slightly less responsible for the problems we are dealing with now because of straight up apathy and hedonism, yet they wrap it in the flag of indifference like its some sort of virtue. Its just weird.
@@sugarshack5129 "The problems we are dealing with now" are largely a result of a group of moral busy bodies inflicting their opinions and views on everyone under the threat of authoritarian measures. If you are saying that Gen X didn't do enough to curb this nonsense while it was brewing, you might be right. To be clear, I'm not bragging or self righteous about it, just stating how it was - but blaming the crowd that wasn't engaged for the behavior of the crowd that is hyper engaged to the point of insanity I don't think is quite correct either.
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@@sugarshack5129so be annoyed. Your histrionics are tiresome
@@sugarshack5129 Boomers where not interested in politics? WTF? You cant be that dumb. Ever heard of the 1960s? It was a full DECADE of cultural change and political protest. They were the boomers!
As a gen-x and 80s punk rocker, I was well aware of the wrongs of society, corruption in our gov and corporate power waaay before it became fashionable. Nothing new to me and I'm glad people are finally coming around.
NOFX last show, was a giant capitalist cash grab at a grotesque level... Really added a juxtaposition to all their best of they rocked out to feed it all. The irony was a bit depressing
@@szililolabu Sort of. I like how Michael framed it with CBT strategies. Many of them do indeed have issues in their own lives. Studies have shown that Democrats have far higher depression and anxiety than Republicans. Having common sense is another thing. Conservatives are more practical. If you really believe that CO2 is an existential threat, why aren’t they approving new nuclear plants?
During the dinosaurs the earth used to be 5°C warmer. So what? They didn't die from that. There have been ice ages here, continents have moved, seas have disappeared, all without the help of humankind. The earth is in a constant change. What exactly do we expect?
The dinosaurs didn't die from that, but from what I've heard/read, humans would die from that. Apparently our breathing system isn't based on how much oxygen is in the air, but how much carbon dioxide. Once there's enough carbon dioxide, our system interpretes the air as air to be exhaled, and not air from which oxygen should be extracted. Or something like that?
@Gillsing in large quantities carbon dioxide becomes a poison, that's how people commit suicide in their garages, letting the running motor of their car fill it with exhaust gas. But are we anywhere near producing this kind of concentration in the air?
Becasue we werent born with a screen in our hands in a total government surveilance state, we lived through the transisition so we got to experience what existed before.
I'm 59. I've lived a crazy life. My girls love hearing my stories or from someone that knew the young me and reflect. My beautiful crazy daughter tells me, "I wish I grew up when you did" and with a tear in my eye I nod yes, me too. My other equally beautiful daughter just has a different vibe. She lives in the now. I'm more blessed than I deserve to be.
“There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who "love Nature" while deploring the "artificialities" with which "Man has spoiled Nature.'" The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of "Nature" : but beavers and their dams are.” - Robert A. Heinlein
I do believe that humans are part of nature, and that therefore their artifacts are part of nature. However, the great difference between human artifacts (including culture) and the artifacts of other things in nature is the speed of evolution and the scope of impact, which makes the distinction between manmade things and natural things legitimate.
@@dixonpinfold2582because it's easier to absolve yourself of responsibility and believe whatever lies get you through the day then to critically examine what's actually going on. Nothing new there, a creature's natural desire to be in the middle, away from potential risks and outright ostracization from the tribe...
That is the crux of so many of our problems. Everyone stays in their own information silos. Everyone thinks "other people are propagandized, but not me".
Millenial here and I really don't care what gen X or boomers have to say. You are all the reason the country fell off the rails in the first place. My generation is the one paying the price and the only one really concerned about the future generations. Gen X = boomer lite.
I'm brazilian, and this channel is interesting because what you guys describes as Gen X experience, here was the Gen X, Millenials and early Gen Z experience. generally speaking the middle class here tend to copy many USA views, so they think that brazillian Millenials are the same than USA Millenials. But most Millenials ( almost 90% ) grew up without home computers and we hanged out in really REALLY dangerous places. Here in Brazil there're some signals in few Millenial parents to get away for the safetysm thing. Because in a poor country, safetysm is very dangerous, creates a scenario where the new generation will be freeze because of the lack of opportunities, thinking that only their generation will face it. It's what happening now here, many zoomers think that Boomers ruined everything, because their parents, genxers become obssessed with colege degrees, "good jobs", safety and so on, and zoomer really doesn't know too much about boomer ( who here, were basically extremaly poor semi-nomad farmers). As a Millenial I think that the responsability is on our hands to fix that, and this will be hard, because most of millenials from elites are pretty woke, the suburbs and favelas have a moral fight against hip hop, most of people from these places hate hip hop, buf for Millenials from elite, is the representative culture from the working class. Many of the Millenials still single, really drunk and addicted in Hookahs. many millenials parents still too much helicopter, specially in middle classes. It will be a real battle to fix it.
Wow, two of my favorites: DSA and Michael Shellenberger. Great Video.
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Whats being pointed to here is at the heart of the the macro issue of The West: apologizing for creating, and maintaining, the modern world. Anyone comfortable with any alternatives?
Wow, Michael has put down my point of view with words. Brilliant! Thanks Michael. The Bible and a Church on-line has kept me, a senior, well, also giving and helping where I’m able.
I remember around 1990 all the talk about global warming, and reduce, reuse, and recycle at school. The hole in the ozone layer was also a big topic. There was also commercials about planting trees. Now these conversations are 'out of style'? I see how strangely the terminology has changed to climate change and how culty it has become, and the obsession against carbon. WE are MADE mostly OF CARBON and water (greenhouse compounds). Almost everything we eat contains carbon. The dogma is just bizarre. It's a war against US for sure.
No, they won't. They are a feral generation who are just now coming to grips with reality; with no elders to speak of, and hanging on to poisonous inherited worldviews, the best they can do is reflect and pass on their accumulated acumen.
Born close enough to WW2 to listen to my parents stories of what people went through and appreciate my freedom, paid for by the previous generations. I can understand that without industrialisation we would be living on the verge of starvation and dying younger. Our current younger generations are unable to grasp just how bad life can be when there is not enough cheap energy. Climate change will seem unimportant when you can’t eat.
Control of information is essential to cults whose purpose is to destroy reality and create a new one for its members. Everybody wants to rule the world.🎶 Tears for Fears
Gen X woman who never got a ride from my mother but managed to get everywhere. Survived Class Action Park and am trying to raise self reliant, independent children in a world where you don’t need to think of an answer….you just ask a cell phone and get it.
Gen x learn from mistakes. Strong resilience generation. Concentrate in Tradition and the well being of the world and humans. We were the generations our parents divorce so high. Independent and strong.
Oh man, the freedom of Gen X youth. We rode bikes & walked everywhere. My mother would criminally negligent today. But that freedom, especially with cell phones & social media will never come back
Where the hell has YT been hiding your channel from me!? 😮 This format was perfect. 🙌 Shellenberger is bang-on accurate with everything he states. Looking forward to discovering your other vids, DSA. 🍻
My awakening was spurred on by the acceptance of narcissistic personality disorder as the main cause of human suffering. And the ineptitude of psychology. 😊
Whatever people. The world was supposed to end multiple times for me from the 70s until today. Wars, weather, asteroids, disease. We have double the amount of people in Canada since I was born and the amount of emissions from cars are 88% less than they used to be. Also while ownership might be high, use isn't. A few use their cars daily and the rest leave them parked during the day. Numbers are exaggerated. We are in a better spot than where we were, but people insist we are in a worse position. I throw out so little, sometimes I wait until the end of the month to throw garbage out. All my lights are LEDs. The house has new everything that is energy efficient. How is this worse than back in the day? I'm WAY more efficient, but yet the government and people feel the need to strip me of everything. Being X, I was given nothing. I fought and paid for it all with zero help.
Nice format. Kind of a “Big Think” sort of set up with taking the interviewer out of the equation. Very well done. Great production value and terrific guest. 👍
75 here , you have all said my thoughys better than i could explain . 8 years old with my own house key . Out the door at 9 am on weekends and home about 5 for tea , we were truly an independant , resourceful, hard working and personally accountable generation . Reached adulthood in the 90's with dance culture . Packed pubs and bars . Night life was amazing , safe and we still got up to do a hard days work the next day with no excuses . I miss those times . Never ever to return . Im just glad i realy did live those years and for that no regrets . I feel , realy feel for anyone post gen x , they think theyre living but have not clue what it should / could beblike
100% agree with Shellenberger about our generation!! We had to be self motivated. If we wanted to know something we had to seek it out, go to the library, the cinema, read a book. We found fulfillment in being self starters and gaining knowledge and skills. Gen X IS the hope for the future. The kids need to put down the phones and listen up!!
There are ways to utilize natural resources without polluting the environment. That is where regulation should focus, not on simply preventing any development
We grew up with the motto believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. Todays generation will believe anything you tell them despite having the greatest amount of information at our finger tips. SMFH
I remember so clearly back in the early to mid 90s when I first started driving, seeing a bumper sticker... Since censorship is so bad now, I can't even say it without probably getting penalized. The sticker said in 5 words, if you care for the earth you should hasten your departure. That has always stuck with me. It just makes me push forward. And also not get bogged down in the things I have no control over like larger environmental issues. And that's all I have to say as a Gen Xer. ✌️
i remember this one time i felt like no matter what i did, people just didn’t notice me. i tried everything-confidence boosters, social tips, you name it-but nothing seemed to work. then i found this book, Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it completely shifted how i saw myself. it’s not just about being noticed; it’s about understanding the energy you project. honestly, this book made all the difference for me. if you’ve ever felt invisible, you need to read it.
As a Gen X'r I don't want people to notice me unless I have a reason for them to do so. Most people today as soon as they open their mouth I immediately have the urge to tell them to "Go away.."
As a Gen-X Christian, it seems funny to me that he names the problem several times, but doesn't see the solution. He consistently points to loss of religion (i.e. Christianity) as the cause of our problems, but never suggests a return to Christianity. He won't even name Christianity, but instead softens it with the term "religion". Well, it isn't that we turned from Islam or Hinduism...we turned from Christ. The churches are more empty, and the mega-churches are counterfeits. We are Rome in reverse. The answer is to repent of our sins and place our faith in Jesus. I'm a dad too. I can't save America, but I know who can.
Regardless of the question of is there a god, religion has always been a tool to manipulate the masses, especially the poor and uneducated that's levied by the powerful. What's the last time religion, at a large scale given the prevalence, has helped humanity instead of turning us on each other for being less in some capacity? Religion always comes with bloodshed.
Valuable point! As a Christian mom and now Grandmother, and Xer, I do see a pretty strong correlation. I also have been seeing a lot of people recently returning to Christ. Let’s keep praying. 🙏
I'm a cultural Christian, northern European ancestry,…. living a basically moral/prudent/creative life,…. I appreciate the influence of the Jesus religion, I have no interest in other religions for the matter of faith,…. but, I think 'God direct' within prudent culture is the most true,… but, religion has its grip, and, some can work well enough culturally, particularly Christianity. But, I see it as a 'some sort of phase',…. that is not crucial for goodness and truth, and, can be a distraction from trueness and goodness,…. and there's the matter of individual genetics, including mental genetics, in how people are.
Ex confirmed Catholic here. Not interested in any of that Mythology anymore. Philosophy gave me a moral foundation to act in the world. Christianity just gave me guilt and a bill every week.
I wouldn't mind seeing all electric vehicles taking over the roads over the next 20 years but that will only be possible with a nuclear power grid. Environmentalists are so dense. Thank you Michael Shellenberger for fighting the good fight! Your Ted Talk on nuclear shifted my perspective significantly, it only took 20 minutes. It should be required viewing in every high school.
Electric motors are one thing. It's an entirely different story when all these cars are packed out with software and google has all your vehicle's data in real time. This is not a good thing.
When I ask climatists if they can name one - just one - measure that was taken in the name of climate that had a direct positive impact on the environment, they never have an answer. I believe there is none. Whereas many have been disastrous. The climate movement is not a continuation of environmentalism. It is the opposite. I and many others from the old movement have made a transition similar to Michael’s.
Definitely part of it. My take is that they are, statistically as it relates to the subject matter, completely uneducated. They make scientists into deities who can predict the long-term future (which no one can do) and then worship at the alter of these scientists and their reports. They cannot explain the reports yet they believe the reports. This is a religion or cult.
And there is no thermostat for the climate. They HOPE that doing this or that will have an effect since none of it can be demonstrated in a lab they way science is actually done. So they are just tools of the Neo Liberal Oligarchy.
I am a 70s GenXer, couldn't be more typical. The 70s are not even mentioned in the GenX time frame. I despise that we seemed to jump from Boomers in charge to Millenials and even GenZers in charge. Again... the overlooked generation. 🤨
Born in 79 and graduated high school in 98. I joke we were the last generation to play outdoors, but I genuinely can look back and see the shift just with my younger brother born in 83, and the kids after. I feel as if I have a foot in two worlds. There are pros and cons both sides, and I hope we are able to find a way to bridge the differences and find a happy middle ground.
Humanity and the environment are intertwined in an inseparable way. The system is too grand and complex for the psyche to behold. That system is resilient and never ending. However, the subjective experience within the greater system is the most fragile thing there is. It is this subjective experience and its possible change or end that creates our greatest of fears. Optimism comes from knowing that it is eternal, and beyond our control, nihilism comes from the misguided belief that control is more important than experience.
Its all about trade offs . Look at the fire in California as a example. Reservoirs where stopped by there governor, the excuse was to save the stickle back fish , which meant no water to fight the fires so houses are lost . Same in energy if youvwant to go to unreliable energy the trade off is higher prices and eventually brown outs and black outs . Is this really what people want 🤔 I'm not so sure .
My Daddy was a Boomer. My Mama a Gen X. I am a millenial. We are families being divided by generation . The one thing that has not changed is the following of revised doctrines written by ancient dead men. The dead controlling how the living live.
Such a millennial comment: "The dead control how the living live" Interesting how, towards the end he discussed ideologies, and how climate change provided the same needs as religion. If you're not full of God, you're full of yourself. Truth no longer comes from the wisdom of past elders but must be found within. This is what separates previous generations from today's generations. Millennials enjoy their self help books. Gen X and Boomers, as they age, realize the importance of religion.
I love my growing up years. Although TV was big but I was mostly reading and listening to radio and playing records. I walked and took buses. I window-shopped aimlessly. I wrote letters and cards. I had a lot of freedom to explore even under strong pressure to be academically successful from home, schools, and society (I was not in US). I only got my first smart phone less than 10 years ago. I don’t have fb ig TikTok discord. I truly feel lucky being a gen Xer.
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I'm Gen X. but i can't comment without knowing who is censoring my Gen X comments. its hard to know who is doing it, for all the worst reasons.
@@secretbassrigs its your fictional shadow censor ghost liberal dude thingy. he follows you all over the internet stopping you from posting.
That using 10% of your brain thing was spread everywhere. I was thinking about the other day and realized how stupid it actually was.
@@DadSavesAmerica Dave you’ll need to save the environmentalists, to whit, in an earnest effort we have now dumped tons of carcinogens onto the devastation. Sort of like the Romans salting the fields
@@JoeK-r3f Do you remember the hole in the ozone layer? The Data from different sources today is so contradictory, it's hard to know what's really going on. The only certainty is that it's not going away because the CFCs are still being produced en mass. There is only one noticeable difference from the 90s and today. And if I mention it, RUclips will censor me.
Rome salted Carthage. Carthage used very unspeakable tactics on captured Roman Soldiers. It accomplished some very impossible things, but could never out run the impossibility of its existence the way it did.
I grew up in a generation that bankrupted the Soviet Union and peacefully brought an end to Apartheid. It seems impossible to achieve now with today's indoctrinated generation of Americans growing up with a corrupted mass media and political sphere open to the best and worst the world has to offer.
#FreeJimmyLai
I’m a Gen-X who has been so saddened by the changes to the environmental movement. Growing up, it was about preservation of wild habitats, reforestation, and what we all can do to clean up our air and local waterways, and even to stop littering. Now it’s carbon, carbon, carbon (not a pollutant) and what we all need to give up to keep the earth from “boiling,” except for the elite, who don’t need to give up anything because they are exempt. It’s so sad how this movement has been ruined.
I was talking with someone the other day how big the littering thing was back in the 80’s and early 90’s. It was about the worst thing you could do. I haven’t heard anything about that, or the other items you mentioned above in a long, long time. The left, and of course the MSM that’s left, is almost entirely focused on CO2 now.
I agree and now look at the issue with PFAS contamination happening around the world. That's what you get by being distracted by a single issue.
What you may be missing it's it's no longer really about environment or climate change. It's about money. If the Government is on board with something its about putting money in their pockets and the donors they serve.
By design. When have you last heard about any actual conversation? Everyones' huge clue should have been the corpos suddenly being "concerned".
The reason that we had that view of the environmental movement while growing up is because we had not learned to question the viewpoint we were presented. It turns out that they were always some variant of anti-humanity: Anti-technology, anti-industry, anti-development, and always, always, always anti-capitalist and anti-freedom. Preserving nature was never their reason. It was their pretext.
Born in 66 GenXer here. My parents taught me self reliance, self responsibility, teamwork and problem solving. We gardened, mowed the lawn for ourselves and others, raked leaves, shoveled driveways and had paper routes. And we spent most of our times outside! We camped, canoed, and road inter tubes down rivers. We had great tv, actual honest news and a crap ton of friends. Great rock music as well! Church on Sunday and family meals with the whole family. Let’s go back there. That would be great.
News wasnt honest, I hate to tell you. It never was. But, the outdoors was pretty fab 😃
@@timothyblazer1749probably not, but it was a lot less sensational and combative, and the elite groups disdain for the serfs wasn’t as obvious as it is now. The best thing about that time was as a kid, NOT one adult expected kids to be activists or join them in political tirades, you were perfectly free to not give a f**k about anything other than kid things and making decent grades.
I was one of the first papergirl❤ had my own route
And we did not sacrifice our individuality and critical thinking to a mob, nor were we pressured to.
I was born in 1967 and I’m sure you heard on the news about how we were going to run out of gas and oil and 10 years blah blah blah in the late 1970s. 😂😂 unlike the millennials and generation Z we didn’t worry about that and we did not let it eat us alive. we went through some hard times, but we didn’t suffer from major anxiety because we were outside getting exercise and eating better. I think video games were bad, but the worst has been social media.
I'm Gen-X. We have a foot in both the "old" world and the "new" world of computing. We were not raised with internet and phones consuming our days. We played outside and lived in the real world.
Even at 53 I love being outside working on something. Yes lazy days happen. But I prefer to do something on my weekends.
LOAD RUNNER player here 😊
Spot on! I loved the ‘80s and playing outside.
Lode Runner, surely?
@@goldismoney5899 damn, that didnt come out right at all. Not the software testing tool, or anything else damn it 🙄
You are correct the old 2d puzzle game loderunner. I actually really liked that game
Hey RUclips, we dont give a ***t what Wikipedia thinks about climate change.
Yip.....when Al Gore said no snow 20 years ago......yet still snow fall....it's not coming out as predicted.
@@zoomby4380chemically nucleated flash freeze snow that looks like Dippin dots is what we got now.
it's so 1984 these days
I told RUclips that climate change is fraudulent and a scam but I still get the notice. Dickholes at the UN, I hope Trump outlaws their influence like my state Louisiana, which put the UN and the WHO on notice as international SCUM
Obama's property at Martha's Vineyard is "predicted" to be underwater imminently.
So far the prediction has turned out wrong.
Not sure why he would buy a property he believed would be underwater.
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket
No it doesn't. Dishonesty is the problem. Human caused climate change is a scam.
nonesense
Accurate assessment
Hoffer was right, agreed.
@@andywomack3414Do you have a good example of a movement in the last 150 yrs that didn’t go through that progression. I’m been trying to think of one and not coming up with one.
Gen Xer here. When I was in elementary school back in the 70's there was much talk about a coming ice age. I'm still waiting for it.
It's far more probable than burning due to CO2.
I'm an elder Xer born in 66.
I'm from the last year of the baby boom, and they didn't say it was definitely going to be an ice age.
They taught us that it was an argument, and some scientists wondered where the tipping point would be.
Warming Warming Warming
Tipping point, cooling cooling.
They still argue.
Have you read any books on history or nature? A human lives about 70 years. That's barely enough time to watch a creek become a river. What you're talking about takes centuries. You could literally learn that just by looking at any timeline in any history book 😂
@@GreyCroweif you’re going to just show up and be a self righteous douche, at least try to act like you read the comments that you’re replying to.
Aussie here. I think Gen-Xers are a very unique generation. We grew up throughout our childhood without technology and mod-cons in our homes. No home computers, no diswashers, microwaves were a rarity, no mobile phones etc. Things HAD to be done the old way - BY HAND! To entertain ourselves, we got on our bikes and rode to our friend's house or to some pre-arranged meeting place and stayed out nearly all day. But ONLY after our morning chores were done! We had to be home in time to get our afternoon chores done before dinner. If we weren't, there was hell to pay!
Riding our bikes everywhere kept us fit and built strong bones during those critical growing years. Yes, we didn't wear helmets. Yes, we came off our bikes on numerous occasions and took skin off our elbows, knees and countless other body parts. But, usually it was because we did something stupid. It taught us that stupid hurts and that hurting teaches you a lesson!
In our teens, not much changed. Computer games started to pop up, but they weren't at home. No - you still needed to get on your bike and ride to the local milk bar or arcade to play them. Also, each game required 20 cents per go! All of those coins in your pocket really weighed you down.
As we started our young adult lives, technology started to really take off. But as we were still young, we were able to embrace it. Appreciate how it made things easier (now I'm not so sure). Be excited by the prospect it brought.
So yes, Gen X is unique. We have seen life with and without technology/internet/social media and been able to grow with it. At the same time however, we have seen what I term a slow decay in humanity with each "advancement" in technology. We are slowly losing the ability to properly connect with our fellow human beings on a personal, face-to-face level. I think we are becoming a little bit more "robotic" and a little bit less "human" with each big technological leap. No other generation before or after can say the same - generally speaking. Boomers were a bit too old to fully embrace technology as it has grown. Indeed, it seems to be just too confusing for many - and I can see why. Gen Y, Millenials and now Gen Alpha have largely not known life without a computer, dishwasher, microwave, gaming console and smart phones being everyday items around the home. Kids today largely would rather sit around in front of a screen all day than get on a bike and ride 1 KM to a friends house. There's no wonder they don't seem to have the physical and mental toughness of most Gen-Xers.
I am truly grateful to be a Gen-X!
Great story, I relate but collectively we are raising these kids,
Absolutely accurate account of your generation. What a life!!
You call it "the slow decay in humanity", I refer to it as "the dumbing down of the human race". Seems some people these days think something is not possible, can't be done, unless their is an app for it on their phone. The world up to about 70 years ago was developed without the aid of computers, that is, everything was done manually, by hand or hand made mechanical machinery. Humans are quite capable if we bother to apply ourselves. We need to recognise the current tech can be a good slave but is currently a bad master.
@@davidkennedy4845 I like your analogy!
Absolutely
Our Gen knew life was about being able to take a tumble...and getting back UP!
I think Gen -X’ers understand that the world is not a fair place.
We don’t try to tip the scales of justice when things don’t go our way. I believe our generation copes better with reality.
Reality bites :)
We just didn’t figure out how to raise children
I want to believe that, but then I witness the hysteria when women athletes have to prove that they're "strong and equal". Suddenly fairness is the most important thing ever, which is incredible considering how many times I was told in childhood that "Life isn't fair, get used to it."
Your generation has brought us a lot of the hysteria. Look at the people who head up many of these rotted institutions. They're Gen Xers.
@@Arnsteel634 I should have raised mine closer to how i was raised, instead of giving them everything I never had.
I turn 50 on June 2025, and I miss riding my bike from morning until sundown and my parents had zero clue where I was. I was a latchkey kid at 9yrs old. If the youth today only knew the freedom and happiness out brought me every summer before I got drivers license. Michael speaks 100% truth.
Those were the days
Same here. I turn 48 in April. And I would hear later on that my parents didnt care or weren't worried about me. But I see that they totally were concerned. But they knew I could handle myself in various situations. That helped make me who I am today. I still thank them even now how they taught me.
Riding my BMX with no helmet all day with mates mum had no idea where I was. hahaha
I’m going to be 56 in June and the things I see today, all I can say is God help us, money over morals is the highlight of what my RUclips coming soon will talk about, this is what happens when ppls values are measured by money, the old saying is money is the root of all evil, guess we’re seeing that 1st hand, P.Diddy is just 1 example of what we’ve come to
51.. cheers from Orange County California 🇺🇸..
I've always said we are the least gullible generation
lol sure. Just wait til I put an AI generated photo and historical one side by side. We'll see how that goes
@@moss8702 Pretty sure that would apply to all generations! At least Gen X would do everything possible to try to figure out which photo is real. We are not a trusting generation. Remember most of us were born when Nixon was president!
Gen Xer i know made fun of the freedom convoy. Free-dumb. I wonder if he's still getting b000sted
Heard a Gen X youtuber say the other day that Gen X was a generation that had little parental oversight in the home and none whatsoever outside of it. Add to that the fact that there weren't CCTV cameras and cellphones everywhere, so we were literally on our own and left to our own devices.
This means that any Gen Xer you see today is someone who survived the unsupervised wildness we got up to, so really, mess with us at your peril.
Born in 2002 here, have been compared to a boomer by a few people due to the exact same treatment in my childhood. Minimal supervision (not feigning nessecary warnings, like "don't pet a crocodile"), means you learn about the world yourself, with unbiased opinions. At least that was the case for me
Add to that nobody caring about us as a generation. Boomer this boomer that, greatest generation over the top. We had no reputation to ruin.
@@TheIndianaGeoffand we didn't care...that's THE important thing
There is also a lot of trauma that we won't own up to. But yes, you find stories of a teen going missing and it wasn't reported for a month. Though it's gone too much in the other direction. Now you can't hold an infant incorrectly without someone calling cps.
No supervision outside.....and yet everyone's parents somehow told your parents. I got caught many times and still don't always know how.
Its easier to fool a man than to get a man to admit he has been fooled - Mark Twain
Hold it right there!
You're going all wrong,
Because,
I am the Biggest Fool in this World.
Fact.
He was right about everything and it's been 150 years
Yes. Read this comments section and notice that very few are owning up to the fact that, it has been 'boomers' and 'gen Xers' that have been the educators that have poisoned the following generations with 'woke'. They have also been the recipients of stolen tax dollars paid to their media companies to lie and brainwash the masses. Boomers and Gen Xers have been used to create the 'merit killing' 'woke and delusional Frankenstein's', who are threatening western societies today.
"The end is nigh!" This has been screamed out for centuries.
The end has come to MANY civilizations. Do you read history or live in a clam shell?
There's always been a lot of money and power to be gained on playing people's emotions with fear. Nothing has changed in that regard.
I always think of the nursery rythme chicken little the sky is falling the sky is falling.
Not centuries, thousands of years.
And for many... it has ended.
As a boomer I really wish that there were a lot more gen x folks. A really great generational dynamic.
There would be, but your stupid generation brought divorce and feminism into the equation. Thanks, Boomers.
Check out Generation Jones - late boomers who are more like Gen-X. It is a useful concept and I am part of the tribe. I don't feel like a boomer at all.
I am 52 and my best friend is 62. She says she is my generation all the time even though not technically true. We do get a long just fine. She does remember things I don't in regards to variety shows and some older music. Other than that I think our views are similar
Umm. .. Boomers, as a group, basically created this mess. You guys stopped us from ascending, stayed in power, took away our opportunity, and then called us "slackers". So nah. .. ill keep my own counsel.
@@johncampbell8098Ah…so that’s what we are. “Generation Jones” I didn’t know that we had a category. I’ve always referred to us as Late-Boomers because most of us don’t fit the Boomer stereotype, but due to the year we were born, we weren’t considered Gen-X. Thanks.
As one of the oldest gen Xers you can be, I remember being taught in second and third grade about global cooling and acid ran destroying the planet.
Am I the only one to remember that?
Because we were also raised to be cynical and to question everything, I soon came to realize it's all bullshit.
Not to mention the visions of Ark II, and Thundarr the Barbarian.
I don't remember being taught about global cooling in schools, but I do remember reading articles about it when doing research for other school projects as a kid.
Yep..I remember that...then when I got older and came home from the Army..all the talk was about global warming..like huh..I thought it was getting cooler..Also remember how plastic bags and bottles was going to save the planet..that worked out well...
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Yeah, and I'm pissed. When I was a kid I figured I'd have a pet mastodon by now. Do you get anything cool with global warming?
I guess with an attitude like that a towering genius such as yourself should be capable of ruling the entire world. What's stopping you?
Gen X here!!!! when I was 10 years old in 1977. I remember hearing them say we were going to run out of oil & gas in 10 years blah blah blah. Ha!!! I did not worry about this as a 10-year-old or a 15-year-old blah blah blah. We didn’t pay much attention of them because they all said the same damn thing it was like they were speaking in tongue. Our outlook and our views were different and many of us were raised Christian and knew that it would work out so why in the hell should we worry about it?
Typical attitude of the uneducated and ignorant.
The antihumanism in the environmental movement completely turned me away from it even tho i have always been a bleeding heart for the animals and very much a tree hugger type.
It's also anti-science
My story exactly
It's not environmental. The Uber rich flying around on jets and moving to the coast seems hypocritical to me. Blowing up a pipeline and creating an environmental catastrophe is not what I had signed up for. Net zero is not good for the planets flower and fauna. It's about control more than anything.
I grew up in California where progressivism reigns and also where resources are scarce such as water and farmable forests. There, a sort of collective preservation worldview develops in one's mind. It feels VERY serious but that we're all in it together, like singing hymns at church, as we share ideas that will save the world.
But then I moved to the midwest in 1998 and saw forests so thick that you can't walk through them (a fire hazard if not logged appropriately) and freshwater lakes the size of small oceans, that don't recede or dry up. Seeing the abundance with my own eyes, completely changed my worldview. I grew angry at the California activists who denied the resource abundance and who fought against its consumption by chaining themselves to trees and enacting water-restriction laws in every corner of the state. They take from the water-rich to give to the water-poor.
Unfortunately, panicky Californians (Hollywood mostly) are very loud and their problems are always on national news, so the world listens. Sadly, they have no idea that they're in a crisis of their own doing with their golf courses and localized overpopulation, and they think all of us should think and suffer like they do. With that said, I still pray today for the people and the animals who live in the Pacific Palasades area, where they are being consumed by a fire, the water in the pipes have run dry and it could be weeks before it rains. 💔🙏 Sadly, the government will surely crack down on something new after this, digging themselves deeper into an authoritarian culture and the Californians will "happily" comply in order to "save lives" and they will try to convince the rest of us that it's our fault, that we aren't doing enough to prevent their "climate change" demise.
Great points. Glad you progressed.
California grows almost all the fruits and vegetables for the whole country. One state.
How can you say resources are scarce in CA?
The fertility of the Central valley, the massive Sierra snowpack (more water and snow than I've seen anywhere), the oceans teeming with wildlife, the enormous redwoods and extensive forests.... To me California itself is an area of great abundance.
I used to suffer from the scarcity mindset .....and I realized scarcity is a human creation.
Cheers!... sounds like you've come a long way.
I used to be very deep in the environmental movement in California also.
Hadn’t heard the term Safetyism, but that totally sums up the madness.
Every time someone says "Be safe." rather than saying goodbye, I just stare at them like they're insane, because they are.
Mike Rowe (of "Dirty Jobs") speaks on safetyism often. His motto - "Safety Third".
You can find short clips, under 4 min., where he explains why "Safety First" is a bad idea.
@@palaceofwisdom9448 That puts me off too. It's like, "where are you coming from right now, guy?"
Yes. Whenever I hear the words Health and Safety I cringe. The safer things are made the less individuals take responsibility for themselves. No wonder the younger generations are frightened of everything - climate, pollution, crossing the road!
@@palaceofwisdom9448tempting to shout back "hell no, I'd rather have exciting"
Environmentalism today has become a religious movement similar to a cult. It is very difficult to reason with a person about their religious beliefs.
True. Try "reasoning" with a jesus freak.
We were the last generation that didn’t get participation trophies and kept scores in our games. We learned from our defeats, not our victories
wrong. participation trophies were INVENTED for Gen-X. go do some basic research, use Google.
Blue, yellow and red ribbons… all the others weren’t recognized
It taught us, that you have to put in the work to be the best.
It all goes back to those bastards taking away our 3-wheelers.
Amen
😂😅😂😅😂😅
Absolutely 😂
And lawn darts
No one took them from you. Stop lying.
Wanna know "why" I, as a GenX, don't hear the climate change BS? Because they TRIED to scare me with the Ozone Layer scare AND the Acid Rain scare. And, that didn't fool me AS A KID!🤣🤣🤣
'71 here. The closest I've ever come to activisim is signing a petition to free Mumia (as a joke). Trump isn't going to do shit, but I voted for him anyway because I love that it gets under Millenial's and Zoomer's skins. Another thing, I fucking despise the fact that safety has become hijacked by a self-appointed, civic HR department and we're all treated like toddlers who can barely handle our own lives. No wonder anxiety and other personality disorders are at an all-time high with the younger generations. Stay strong, Xers!
I agree with everything you just said.
Though I hope we are both dead wrong about Trump not going to achieve the important goals, but the track record is there unfortunately.
Yes!!
Straight up True.
They've used the excuse of "for your own safety" for all sorts of legislation that has, quite frankly turned the country (Canada) into a Highschool Library. Things we used to freely do are now illegal or you need to pay a s*** load of money for licenses and when you are doing these things you have to buy expensive safety gear and there is law enforcement everywhere which definitely smothers any sense of a good time. The working man's world is gone. No Pubs, Live Bands and good times on Friday night. No hunting seasons every autumn with guys coming home with thier deer or moose on display in thier pickup truck and everyone honking and congratulating the guys. It's all about CONTROL. The academics have decided that we need our hands held from cradle to grave. I knew all of my neighbours in my subdivision growing up and had a great time with 99 percent of them. Now? I don't know any of my neighbours who live next door and actually have a feeling of fear rather than friendliness towards them. Growing up we were "Citizens" and treated with respect. Now? I feel like a criminal and am regularly treated like one by my government and people in positions of authority. What in hell has happened to us?
I remember when blue hair and septum piercings were for punk rockers and skateboarders. Now that's the dress code of feminists.
Either way it's the uniform of untrustworthy people
I'm a feminist and wouldn't be seen dead with that stuff on. You might hate feminists, but don't blame it on the hair colour! 😆
Gen-X’ers can laugh at themselves.
I miss the days when we all equally made fun of each other and everyone thought it was hysterical. We would try and outdo each other, and applaud the best efforts. I miss those days. It was good fun.
Most Gen-X people don’t identify as part of a cohort and until recently rejected the whole idea. Our point of commonality is being neglected and ignored and a lot of us like it that way.
On climate change, i completely agree. 20 years ago when i bought my house, it was as green as one could make it. Now I have teenagers telling me i am the bad guy for not being on board with progressive policies, while they are driving their parents’ $100,000 luxury SUV @13mpg.
I used to give a lot of money to charities that are environmentally focused, but 95% of them are now about parties and being cool, and spend very little of their money on anything useful at all. And don’t get me started on ‘equity-based climate initiatives. Nothing like letting a town be destroyed intentionally because mostly white people live there.
As a Gen Xer - I think we had a very low interest in politics. In high school, we thought about normal things - getting your driver's license, parties, friends, girl/boyfriends, etc. We weren't obsessed with what was going on politically and getting intensely involved in activist pursuits. I'm not sure if it was the advent of the internet or what, but I always wondered if being constantly bombarded with news/propaganda and being that angry and scared at such a young age had a negative effect on the subsequent generations.
Yeah this is why it annoys the shit out of me when gen X acts so self-righteous. Youre right. You werent interested in politics. Neither were the boomers. Gen x is only slightly less responsible for the problems we are dealing with now because of straight up apathy and hedonism, yet they wrap it in the flag of indifference like its some sort of virtue. Its just weird.
@@sugarshack5129 "The problems we are dealing with now" are largely a result of a group of moral busy bodies inflicting their opinions and views on everyone under the threat of authoritarian measures. If you are saying that Gen X didn't do enough to curb this nonsense while it was brewing, you might be right. To be clear, I'm not bragging or self righteous about it, just stating how it was - but blaming the crowd that wasn't engaged for the behavior of the crowd that is hyper engaged to the point of insanity I don't think is quite correct either.
@@sugarshack5129so be annoyed. Your histrionics are tiresome
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@@sugarshack5129 Boomers where not interested in politics? WTF? You cant be that dumb. Ever heard of the 1960s? It was a full DECADE of cultural change and political protest. They were the boomers!
Gen X for the win.
Winning without a participation trophy. 😂
@@ltldxy71 Is that why you raised the weakest generation? Gen Z?
As a gen-x and 80s punk rocker, I was well aware of the wrongs of society, corruption in our gov and corporate power waaay before it became fashionable. Nothing new to me and I'm glad people are finally coming around.
Johnny Rotten spoke up and supported Trump
John Waters appeared on the Greg Gutfeld show
The Children of the Revolution continue
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It was fashionable before you dude. It’s called the 60s
@@RobertMJohnson it was “fashionable”
NOFX last show, was a giant capitalist cash grab at a grotesque level...
Really added a juxtaposition to all their best of they rocked out to feed it all.
The irony was a bit depressing
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Activists in general are unhappy. And their solutions make things worse when there are very good solutions to real problems.
Activists need to get real jobs. Their current path makes them and everyone around them miserable.
Reminds me of Jordan Peterson saying first fix your own damn self and clean your own damn room.
@@szililolabu Sort of. I like how Michael framed it with CBT strategies. Many of them do indeed have issues in their own lives. Studies have shown that Democrats have far higher depression and anxiety than Republicans. Having common sense is another thing. Conservatives are more practical. If you really believe that CO2 is an existential threat, why aren’t they approving new nuclear plants?
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You have no historical background do you. How do you think the Civil Rights act got passed? Seriously you cant be as dumb as your comment.
During the dinosaurs the earth used to be 5°C warmer. So what? They didn't die from that. There have been ice ages here, continents have moved, seas have disappeared, all without the help of humankind. The earth is in a constant change. What exactly do we expect?
The dinosaurs didn't die from that, but from what I've heard/read, humans would die from that. Apparently our breathing system isn't based on how much oxygen is in the air, but how much carbon dioxide. Once there's enough carbon dioxide, our system interpretes the air as air to be exhaled, and not air from which oxygen should be extracted. Or something like that?
@Gillsing in large quantities carbon dioxide becomes a poison, that's how people commit suicide in their garages, letting the running motor of their car fill it with exhaust gas. But are we anywhere near producing this kind of concentration in the air?
Becasue we werent born with a screen in our hands in a total government surveilance state, we lived through the transisition so we got to experience what existed before.
I'm 59. I've lived a crazy life. My girls love hearing my stories or from someone that knew the young me and reflect. My beautiful crazy daughter tells me, "I wish I grew up when you did" and with a tear in my eye I nod yes, me too. My other equally beautiful daughter just has a different vibe. She lives in the now. I'm more blessed than I deserve to be.
He couldn’t be more correct.
It’s so sad that his level of wisdom and balance is missing, sorely, in modern times.
When you get rid of all the sharp objects you get a bunch of dull.
you would know about dull.
“There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who "love Nature" while deploring the "artificialities" with which "Man has spoiled Nature.'" The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of "Nature" : but beavers and their dams are.”
- Robert A. Heinlein
I do believe that humans are part of nature, and that therefore their artifacts are part of nature. However, the great difference between human artifacts (including culture) and the artifacts of other things in nature is the speed of evolution and the scope of impact, which makes the distinction between manmade things and natural things legitimate.
Yes, the Climate Fraud is founded on HATRED of humanity
I agree with Heinlein that it's obvious, yet few people can spot it.
I wonder why. It's not subtle at all.
@@dixonpinfold2582because it's easier to absolve yourself of responsibility and believe whatever lies get you through the day then to critically examine what's actually going on. Nothing new there, a creature's natural desire to be in the middle, away from potential risks and outright ostracization from the tribe...
Yes. Climate changes gives atheist technocrats the thrill of unthinking religious fundamentalism.
As a Gen X, only Gen X and maybe older people will watch this. Not the people that need to see this. And I don't think they will ever want to.
That is the crux of so many of our problems. Everyone stays in their own information silos. Everyone thinks "other people are propagandized, but not me".
Millenial here and I really don't care what gen X or boomers have to say. You are all the reason the country fell off the rails in the first place. My generation is the one paying the price and the only one really concerned about the future generations.
Gen X = boomer lite.
I'm brazilian, and this channel is interesting because what you guys describes as Gen X experience, here was the Gen X, Millenials and early Gen Z experience. generally speaking the middle class here tend to copy many USA views, so they think that brazillian Millenials are the same than USA Millenials. But most Millenials ( almost 90% ) grew up without home computers and we hanged out in really REALLY dangerous places. Here in Brazil there're some signals in few Millenial parents to get away for the safetysm thing. Because in a poor country, safetysm is very dangerous, creates a scenario where the new generation will be freeze because of the lack of opportunities, thinking that only their generation will face it. It's what happening now here, many zoomers think that Boomers ruined everything, because their parents, genxers become obssessed with colege degrees, "good jobs", safety and so on, and zoomer really doesn't know too much about boomer ( who here, were basically extremaly poor semi-nomad farmers).
As a Millenial I think that the responsability is on our hands to fix that, and this will be hard, because most of millenials from elites are pretty woke, the suburbs and favelas have a moral fight against hip hop, most of people from these places hate hip hop, buf for Millenials from elite, is the representative culture from the working class. Many of the Millenials still single, really drunk and addicted in Hookahs. many millenials parents still too much helicopter, specially in middle classes. It will be a real battle to fix it.
Wow, two of my favorites: DSA and Michael Shellenberger. Great Video.
Whats being pointed to here is at the heart of the the macro issue of The West: apologizing for creating, and maintaining, the modern world. Anyone comfortable with any alternatives?
As a east German i strongly suggest to stick with the classical Western Modell.
Wow, Michael has put down my point of view with words. Brilliant! Thanks Michael.
The Bible and a Church on-line has kept me, a senior, well, also giving and helping where I’m able.
Gen-X. 💪
I’ve been a life long conservative and I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for this man.
I remember around 1990 all the talk about global warming, and reduce, reuse, and recycle at school. The hole in the ozone layer was also a big topic. There was also commercials about planting trees. Now these conversations are 'out of style'? I see how strangely the terminology has changed to climate change and how culty it has become, and the obsession against carbon. WE are MADE mostly OF CARBON and water (greenhouse compounds). Almost everything we eat contains carbon. The dogma is just bizarre. It's a war against US for sure.
Outstanding video and a great example of the level of English we should strive for.
Covid made me pessimistic. 80% will just go along with anything.
As a boomer I firmly believe that Gen X will save America.
No saving America, it has adopted madness.
Thank you! As an Xer I appreciate that.
We'll improve some things and ruin some things, just like humans always do.
We did in November. We showed up in numbers to change the election and polls. We're just getting started.
No, they won't. They are a feral generation who are just now coming to grips with reality; with no elders to speak of, and hanging on to poisonous inherited worldviews, the best they can do is reflect and pass on their accumulated acumen.
Born close enough to WW2 to listen to my parents stories of what people went through and appreciate my freedom, paid for by the previous generations. I can understand that without industrialisation we would be living on the verge of starvation and dying younger. Our current younger generations are unable to grasp just how bad life can be when there is not enough cheap energy. Climate change will seem unimportant when you can’t eat.
"Climate Change" has been identified. He lives in California, wears a hoodie and carries a blow torch and a cigarette lighter.
In the early 1970’s was told at school we would run out of oil in 20 years here it is 2025 and oil is still here 😅 what bs from the school system
They were still telling us that in the 80’s too.
I remember hearing that, too. The BS just changes, but it never stops.
Dammit Michael how dare you be so calm and reasonable!
Control of information is essential to cults whose purpose is to destroy reality and create a new one for its members. Everybody wants to rule the world.🎶 Tears for Fears
The Trump MAGA Faux Noose Cult owns you.
Gen X woman who never got a ride from my mother but managed to get everywhere. Survived Class Action Park and am trying to raise self reliant, independent children in a world where you don’t need to think of an answer….you just ask a cell phone and get it.
As a Gen Alpha raised by my Gen X dad, I am extremely grateful that he taught me to see through all this anti-climate change BS.
Gen x learn from mistakes. Strong resilience generation. Concentrate in Tradition and the well being of the world and humans. We were the generations our parents divorce so high. Independent and strong.
One of my favorite people.
They should have voted for him in California.
Maybe he'll run again.😊
Godspeed Michael
If only certain people could realise they've been duped and are actually holding us all back needlessly.
Oh man, the freedom of Gen X youth. We rode bikes & walked everywhere. My mother would criminally negligent today. But that freedom, especially with cell phones & social media will never come back
Where the hell has YT been hiding your channel from me!? 😮 This format was perfect. 🙌
Shellenberger is bang-on accurate with everything he states.
Looking forward to discovering your other vids, DSA. 🍻
My awakening was spurred on by the acceptance of narcissistic personality disorder as the main cause of human suffering. And the ineptitude of psychology. 😊
This is one of the best RUclips videos I have seen in a long time! I'm Gen X too and agree with what's being said here.
Whatever people. The world was supposed to end multiple times for me from the 70s until today. Wars, weather, asteroids, disease. We have double the amount of people in Canada since I was born and the amount of emissions from cars are 88% less than they used to be. Also while ownership might be high, use isn't. A few use their cars daily and the rest leave them parked during the day. Numbers are exaggerated. We are in a better spot than where we were, but people insist we are in a worse position. I throw out so little, sometimes I wait until the end of the month to throw garbage out. All my lights are LEDs. The house has new everything that is energy efficient. How is this worse than back in the day? I'm WAY more efficient, but yet the government and people feel the need to strip me of everything. Being X, I was given nothing. I fought and paid for it all with zero help.
Wiki warning is like the new two thumbs up. You know there’s good stuff in there.
Nice format. Kind of a “Big Think” sort of set up with taking the interviewer out of the equation. Very well done. Great production value and terrific guest.
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75 here , you have all said my thoughys better than i could explain . 8 years old with my own house key . Out the door at 9 am on weekends and home about 5 for tea , we were truly an independant , resourceful, hard working and personally accountable generation . Reached adulthood in the 90's with dance culture . Packed pubs and bars . Night life was amazing , safe and we still got up to do a hard days work the next day with no excuses . I miss those times . Never ever to return . Im just glad i realy did live those years and for that no regrets . I feel , realy feel for anyone post gen x , they think theyre living but have not clue what it should / could beblike
100% agree with Shellenberger about our generation!! We had to be self motivated. If we wanted to know something we had to seek it out, go to the library, the cinema, read a book. We found fulfillment in being self starters and gaining knowledge and skills. Gen X IS the hope for the future. The kids need to put down the phones and listen up!!
Yet, when we were kids, they called us slackers.
There are ways to utilize natural resources without polluting the environment. That is where regulation should focus, not on simply preventing any development
We grew up with the motto believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. Todays generation will believe anything you tell them despite having the greatest amount of information at our finger tips. SMFH
I agree. Us old Gen X, sarcastic, punk rock rebels cannot help but to question stuff. I blame Morrissey or Tarantino....
My millennial children and their friends also think this Carbon tax crap is a Scam!
Very well spoken, thank you sirs.
Unfortunately most of these issues causing these attitudes and conditions are now legislative and government policy and ideology.
I remember so clearly back in the early to mid 90s when I first started driving, seeing a bumper sticker...
Since censorship is so bad now, I can't even say it without probably getting penalized. The sticker said in 5 words, if you care for the earth you should hasten your departure.
That has always stuck with me. It just makes me push forward. And also not get bogged down in the things I have no control over like larger environmental issues.
And that's all I have to say as a Gen Xer. ✌️
Gen X rocks, peace out and tuffen up buttercup all in one
As we become adult we start to question the BS around us.
Some people never seem to.
i remember this one time i felt like no matter what i did, people just didn’t notice me. i tried everything-confidence boosters, social tips, you name it-but nothing seemed to work. then i found this book, Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it completely shifted how i saw myself. it’s not just about being noticed; it’s about understanding the energy you project. honestly, this book made all the difference for me. if you’ve ever felt invisible, you need to read it.
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As a Gen X'r I don't want people to notice me unless I have a reason for them to do so. Most people today as soon as they open their mouth I immediately have the urge to tell them to "Go away.."
Interesting. I'm an introvert so I rather like not being noticed.
Ive lost count of how many times I've had to have a conversation with some kind of authorities about my free range kids
As a Gen-X Christian, it seems funny to me that he names the problem several times, but doesn't see the solution. He consistently points to loss of religion (i.e. Christianity) as the cause of our problems, but never suggests a return to Christianity. He won't even name Christianity, but instead softens it with the term "religion". Well, it isn't that we turned from Islam or Hinduism...we turned from Christ. The churches are more empty, and the mega-churches are counterfeits. We are Rome in reverse. The answer is to repent of our sins and place our faith in Jesus. I'm a dad too. I can't save America, but I know who can.
Well said! Praying for our nation!
Regardless of the question of is there a god, religion has always been a tool to manipulate the masses, especially the poor and uneducated that's levied by the powerful. What's the last time religion, at a large scale given the prevalence, has helped humanity instead of turning us on each other for being less in some capacity? Religion always comes with bloodshed.
Valuable point! As a Christian mom and now Grandmother, and Xer, I do see a pretty strong correlation. I also have been seeing a lot of people recently returning to Christ. Let’s keep praying. 🙏
I'm a cultural Christian, northern European ancestry,…. living a basically moral/prudent/creative life,…. I appreciate the influence of the Jesus religion, I have no interest in other religions for the matter of faith,…. but, I think 'God direct' within prudent culture is the most true,… but, religion has its grip, and, some can work well enough culturally, particularly Christianity. But, I see it as a 'some sort of phase',…. that is not crucial for goodness and truth, and, can be a distraction from trueness and goodness,…. and there's the matter of individual genetics, including mental genetics, in how people are.
Ex confirmed Catholic here. Not interested in any of that Mythology anymore. Philosophy gave me a moral foundation to act in the world. Christianity just gave me guilt and a bill every week.
Wonder how many folks in the U.S. know that there are rain forests here, and that people are clear cutting them?
I wouldn't mind seeing all electric vehicles taking over the roads over the next 20 years but that will only be possible with a nuclear power grid. Environmentalists are so dense. Thank you Michael Shellenberger for fighting the good fight! Your Ted Talk on nuclear shifted my perspective significantly, it only took 20 minutes. It should be required viewing in every high school.
Electric motors are one thing. It's an entirely different story when all these cars are packed out with software and google has all your vehicle's data in real time. This is not a good thing.
Fresh air to my ears
When I ask climatists if they can name one - just one - measure that was taken in the name of climate that had a direct positive impact on the environment, they never have an answer.
I believe there is none.
Whereas many have been disastrous.
The climate movement is not a continuation of environmentalism.
It is the opposite.
I and many others from the old movement have made a transition similar to Michael’s.
Definitely part of it.
My take is that they are, statistically as it relates to the subject matter, completely uneducated.
They make scientists into deities who can predict the long-term future (which no one can do) and then worship at the alter of these scientists and their reports.
They cannot explain the reports yet they believe the reports.
This is a religion or cult.
And there is no thermostat for the climate. They HOPE that doing this or that will have an effect since none of it can be demonstrated in a lab they way science is actually done. So they are just tools of the Neo Liberal Oligarchy.
The climate "movement" is looking more and more like a coup to hoard the world's resources by people like Bill Gates and the WEF.
Well said Michael!!!🎉
Uh oh. You got a RUclips climate change Notre! Oh whatever shall you do?
Very well stated.
We were told to get out of the house and yes we ran free in our part of town
I am a 70s GenXer, couldn't be more typical. The 70s are not even mentioned in the GenX time frame. I despise that we seemed to jump from Boomers in charge to Millenials and even GenZers in charge. Again... the overlooked generation. 🤨
Gen-Z are the ironic ones. We Gen-X are pretty straight forward. We're not afraid of the truth.
65 gen x here. The idea that people should need my help, not me need their help, was fundamental to my fathers conception of manhood passed to me.
That was really interesting! Thanks! :)
Born in 79 and graduated high school in 98. I joke we were the last generation to play outdoors, but I genuinely can look back and see the shift just with my younger brother born in 83, and the kids after. I feel as if I have a foot in two worlds. There are pros and cons both sides, and I hope we are able to find a way to bridge the differences and find a happy middle ground.
Humanity and the environment are intertwined in an inseparable way. The system is too grand and complex for the psyche to behold. That system is resilient and never ending. However, the subjective experience within the greater system is the most fragile thing there is. It is this subjective experience and its possible change or end that creates our greatest of fears. Optimism comes from knowing that it is eternal, and beyond our control, nihilism comes from the misguided belief that control is more important than experience.
Its all about trade offs .
Look at the fire in California as a example. Reservoirs where stopped by there governor, the excuse was to save the stickle back fish , which meant no water to fight the fires so houses are lost . Same in energy if youvwant to go to unreliable energy the trade off is higher prices and eventually brown outs and black outs . Is this really what people want 🤔 I'm not so sure .
He gets it. Love his push against what is happening to California
My Daddy was a Boomer. My Mama a Gen X. I am a millenial. We are families being divided by generation . The one thing that has not changed is the following of revised doctrines written by ancient dead men. The dead controlling how the living live.
Such a millennial comment: "The dead control how the living live"
Interesting how, towards the end he discussed ideologies, and how climate change provided the same needs as religion.
If you're not full of God, you're full of yourself. Truth no longer comes from the wisdom of past elders but must be found within. This is what separates previous generations from today's generations. Millennials enjoy their self help books. Gen X and Boomers, as they age, realize the importance of religion.
GenX represent 💙
I love my growing up years. Although TV was big but I was mostly reading and listening to radio and playing records. I walked and took buses. I window-shopped aimlessly. I wrote letters and cards. I had a lot of freedom to explore even under strong pressure to be academically successful from home, schools, and society (I was not in US). I only got my first smart phone less than 10 years ago. I don’t have fb ig TikTok discord. I truly feel lucky being a gen Xer.
Millennials were latch key kids as well.
Elder Millennial here. Tend to identify and relate more with Gen X.