I think the most haunting scene of the episode was the opening when Kendall was yelling at his ex-wife about how everything he’s done has been for his children that he clearly doesn’t care about. For better and worse he is becoming the spitting image of his father.
From Wikipedia: The Scorpion and the Frog is an animal fable which teaches that vicious people cannot resist hurting others even when it is not in their own interests. A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's in my nature."
It's really a perfect metaphor for Shiv and Tom. That all Tom has really ever wanted from Shiv is that she act and acknowledge them as being on the same team, and though she can do it for moments, she can't maintain it. She always has to put him in a position where he's beneath her, because deep down she just doesn't respect him as an equal.
Scorpions are also a symbol for self destructiveness as cornered scorpion will sting itself in the head as it would rather suicide than be killed. When it comes to literature: "The scorpion symbolizes the evil that is found in nature, which is seemingly arbitrary and unmotivated, in contrast to the evil that is found in mankind, which is generally the result of selfish desire and greed."
Kendall slowly turning into the man he despised is the actual tragedy , he can never outrun his fate because he's Kendall Logan Roy , he was always meant to be Kendall Logan Roy
I kinda disagree. Kendall *isn't* naturally like Logan. The tragedy comes when he tries to be like his dad and ends up making a fool of himself/hurting his loved ones. That's not his character but he thinks that's what 'masculinity' should be.
@@jacoenglander9608 yes, but it's something they both acknowledge and are aware of. Just being honest with each other shows how much more healthy they are than Shiv and Tom
The fight between Shiv and Tom might have been the best scene I have ever seen. 2 awful people fighting over who has been more awful. The writing this season has been so captivating. It's like watching a 12 round fight. Who will survive, who has already been knocked out, who is taking a ton of punishment and is on the brimk of going down and who will win?
LOL, NO, it won't. Because it isn't. It's easily the worst Season of Succession. It's still Great, but still the worst season, and less Great than all the other 3.
Yeah can't agree either. It's still fantastic, but the first two seasons were way more varied and focussed on comedy and character more.. Great as this season is, its key focus is, understandably and inevitably, bringing the whole narrative to a close.
@@AdAstra78 You have understood the circumstances well. I have also noticed that there no longer is a Seasonal Main Character, and all the biggest characters now have pretty much the exact same amount of screentime, and nobody is pushing the plot forward more than anyone else. My biggest criticism of the Season is the lack of humor, and lack of wit, and actually, poor pacing. Logan's death was the worst episode in the series simply because of how LOOOONG it was. It was dragged out. I'm not saying it should have been 5 minutes, but when 1 moment lasts 30 minutes, it loses some of it's impact.
Breaking Bad season 5, specifically part 2, is the greatest final season of any show ever, but Succession's doing a good job with what they have and where they need to take the story to wrap it up
Remember when people were saying they killed off Logan to early in the season and now we’ve had some of the most scheming crazy power playing episodes of the show since he’s been gone? Forgot the Roy’s, these show writers deserve to win Succession.
We got 3 episodes of drama left, funny thing is once Logan died I stopped caring about who falls into "winning" anymore. I'm more invested in the relationships. It's why Kendall has kinda bored me this season.
I still think Roman is playing 4D chess. Deep down he is a killer he was always a killer. He’s the Romulous. Now that would be something. He will either do that or commit suicide.
absolutely hilarious how sarah is just laughing about the scene and so visibly enjoying the time she has with it, and matthew so nonchalant and almost proper about it. like what are you doing that scene was the wildest thing to ever happen to me and it DESTROYED me
Yes I actually find it so beautifully ironic that connor and willa's relationship is the healthiest and most successful in the show given that no one expected it to actually turn into anything
I am heartbroken about Shiv and Tom. But how fckin realistic is this? Sometimes just when you think you got it together, a blow up like this just nukes a whole relationship, no grass will ever grow in that spot.
May I just go right ahead and say this: This is officially thee BEST TV SHOW I HAVE EVER WATCHED IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE!!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Succession is truly destined for TV greatness👑👌🏿
Watching this now I'm more calmed, because it was such a heavy loaded fight that two actors accomplished very well that it make it feel like it was real. I was upset last night and overwhelmed with anger and sadness before going to bed. Now thank you for the kind words that Sarah and Matthew have for each other in this clip.
How does Waystar Royco still exist? So much news worthy headlines for today’s episode. Karolina and Hugo were absent because they were probably working overtime! CO-CEO Kendall and CO CEO’s estranged ex-wife Rava’s public argument, CO-CEO Roman yelling at Presidential Candidate Connor, Tech Founder and potential Waystar Royco buyer having a public disagreement with CO -CEO Kendall. Founder’s daughter and former president of domestic operations Shiv having a verbal altercation with husband and ATN chair Tom, Founder’s Great nephew and executive assistant to ATN chair Greg laying off dozens of workers, Former Interim CEO and general counsel asking for money and threatening to release CO-CEO’s Roman’s sexts to public (that one was near the bartender, but anyone nearby could’ve heard it)
I mean the Rava & Ken story is a tabloid story at best. They can drop a politician but not CEOs. Plus most of the people in the room in this episode are just as important and realise that having Lukas and the kids on their side is better for them than going against them so they don't say anything.
Problem is if someone exposed something on them then they have a background team who will crush anything and anyone. Never ending money buys that protection. People and businesses are scared of them. Money = Power.
Excellent, excellent interpretations. Those two performances define artistry. (I have strong "contempt" for both "characters as they're written and played, but at the same time I understand the characters, have empathy for them. What's more, I can separate the actors enough from the characters tthat they've created that I look at these artists and admire their talents to infinity.)
god that scene with tomshiv was so so depressing but also so so good to see them let it out like it hurt yes but as a viewer this was so satisfying to see how matthe and sarah took this.
I really believe he doesn’t know she is pregnant as that is the one thing on earth he wants more than perhaps anything. yet good point if true. … what kind of scorpion is that? by a quick google search this is not a normal occurrence or habit of scorpions
Gerri is furious with herself that she let Roman hurt her emotionally. I loved their relationship. Why are young women and older men okay but not young men and older women?
Tom and Shiv's relationship: Absolute sh*tshow British way of saying it: "Quite a curious place" 3:24, I guess that's why Jesse Armstrong'a writing the show
@@xfozty2372 Tom needed that release. I don't care how sleazy he is, he's definitely been there for Shiv during her toughest times but all she's ever done is walk over him. Don't get me wrong, I like Shiv; girlypop, ha-ha, but that was a long time coming.
@@RGBEAT I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but Slovenia is basically cheaper Italy/Austria, first world country, EU and NATO member with beautiful Mediterranean nature and Alpine landscapes. greetings from Poland (which is also developed country, it's not 1989 anymore).
@@blase777 I'm not being sarcastic! I haven't been, but I know it's a beautiful country with a high GDP and great quality of life (for most) in the middle of Europe. I'd love to go, and I'd love to see Poland too!!!
Shiv and Tom's relationship is that of the tortoise and the scorpion who asked to cross the lake and promised not to back stack him when they do. What cab I say Shiv's a shiv and see just loves twisting her blade in Tom.
The show is positioning Ken to be the one to succeed but of course a surprise ending twist dictates that he once again cringingly Kendell's everything, and so I think Shiv gets it all and turns ATN from Fox into MSNBC.
@@Voyager759 As someone that watched VEEP, loss after loss, isn’t always an indicator that someone will fully flop. I’m going to wait and see. Do I see him getting a full fledged clear cut victory? No. Does that negate any chance of him winning? No. Would I be surprised if he lost? No. Jeremy has previously said that he walked into the writers room in season one, and found a note that said ‘Kendall wins, but loses’. That can mean many different things. Kendall flat out losing has been such a repetitive pattern that I get why it does feels like it absolutely has to keep occurring. This is a show though, that repeatedly teased Logan’s health issues, and in the episode before they offed Logan, had him about as revitalized as one could imagine. Patterns can be broken.
Matthew and Sarah are amazing in this, but the dark horse canidate for best supporting actor is for sure Alan Ruck. Stand out episode for him for sure.
I would be fine if they dumped the rest and we just followed Shiv and Tom for the rest of the show. I say that as someone who loves the whole cast and all the characters
I loved Gerri and Roman. They feel so authentic. although Rom is slightly broken, i feel they could just take care of each other and hangout more often in a matured way instead of all the d*** pics.
Maybe Tom knew that Shiv is (was) pregnant and already aborted? It makes sense since this has not been addressed since episode 4? The "scorpion" present was a subtle "I know what you did".
the whole I was screaming at Shiv to tell Tom she's carrying his child. At least they hashed it out, next time they talk theyre starting from square one
@@stupidcupid111100 Exactly. They were all very strange at the tailgate party and were supposed to be there showing their best behavior. Ebba had a very strange smile on her face when Kendall confronted Lukas about India. I think it was a play.
I disagree. It was a set-up episode, or what I call a chess-piece episode. Alliances and balances of power were shifting with each duo interaction (Kendall / Frank, Roman / Gerri, Shiv / Tom, Matsson / Ebba, Connor / Willa).
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I think the most haunting scene of the episode was the opening when Kendall was yelling at his ex-wife about how everything he’s done has been for his children that he clearly doesn’t care about. For better and worse he is becoming the spitting image of his father.
I believe that was the funniest and immediately laughed when he said that. It was so ironical, kendall becoming what he hates the most, his own dad!!!
It's goes full circle. And this is very realistic.
Truly in his Michael Corleone era
He was his number one boy
Where's the better?
Connor having the healthiest and supportive relationship out of all 4 siblings is so *chef’s kiss*
I was so happy when he stood up for her
@@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult Stood Up***
Connor is delusional.
@@marthaworc7873he owns u
Seriously. I cannot believe a delusional rich dude with a gold-digging call girl as his wife has the healthiest relationship. Damn good writing
From Wikipedia: The Scorpion and the Frog is an animal fable which teaches that vicious people cannot resist hurting others even when it is not in their own interests.
A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's in my nature."
Thanks for sharing this!
It's really a perfect metaphor for Shiv and Tom. That all Tom has really ever wanted from Shiv is that she act and acknowledge them as being on the same team, and though she can do it for moments, she can't maintain it. She always has to put him in a position where he's beneath her, because deep down she just doesn't respect him as an equal.
Scorpions are also a symbol for self destructiveness as cornered scorpion will sting itself in the head as it would rather suicide than be killed. When it comes to literature: "The scorpion symbolizes the evil that is found in nature, which is seemingly arbitrary and unmotivated, in contrast to the evil that is found in mankind, which is generally the result of selfish desire and greed."
Yes I immediatly thought about that. But he did not mention himself as the frog. And frankly speaking he is also kind of a scorpion.
@@jeviosoorishas181 You
The way Gerri handled Roman lol, She knows her worth
I honestly felt she went easy on him in that exchange
@@truedardii she definitely did. But she was also in a public setting and realized the harm in escalating the situatuon
It was business. What's this worth thing you're talking about?
Yeah he's fked
@@KK-pm7ud Probably the hundreds of millions she bagged.
That scene between Tom and Shiv was PEAK Succession. It was perfection
totally agree..one of peak moments!
So raw!
It's a real time situation. I love it
Top 3 scene in the series for me.. might be number 1
Mcfadyen's and Snook's real accents are killing me
Adds to their genius to me. Also some of us Aussie’s are stylish boss ladies 😅
@@amandaluxmoore4228 She’s Aussie and he’s British. I love it!
go watch him as Mr Darcy... so good
@@jessiek3500 is that the Keira Knightly version?
@@kman20 yes! It’s a dream
I’m sad this is coming to an end. Tom and Shivs fight needed to happen but it still hurt
Kendall slowly turning into the man he despised is the actual tragedy , he can never outrun his fate because he's Kendall Logan Roy , he was always meant to be Kendall Logan Roy
I kinda disagree. Kendall *isn't* naturally like Logan. The tragedy comes when he tries to be like his dad and ends up making a fool of himself/hurting his loved ones. That's not his character but he thinks that's what 'masculinity' should be.
Wait Kendall's middle name is Logan?? I didn't know that
@@Chibbykins that's what it should be
Matthew macfadyen may not be pregnant but he never fails to deliver 😊
Nice
"he may not"
lmao 😭
Underrated comment 😂
@@shaneelkishore8773 are u late to succession??
Kendall vs Rava. Roman vs Gerri. Tom vs Shiv. The only healthy and REAL relationship on this show is Conner and Willa.
No it’s Tom and Greg
@@mike365fly no?
@@mike365fly Wait till Greg fires Tom
Willa is with Connor for money
@@jacoenglander9608 yes, but it's something they both acknowledge and are aware of. Just being honest with each other shows how much more healthy they are than Shiv and Tom
It's fun seeing how much joy actors take in a scene like Tom and Shiv's fight while fans are just devastated 😂
The balcony scene was one of the best scenes of the entire series. Matthew and Sarah are killing it!! Hope they win Emmys!!
The fight between Shiv and Tom might have been the best scene I have ever seen. 2 awful people fighting over who has been more awful. The writing this season has been so captivating. It's like watching a 12 round fight. Who will survive, who has already been knocked out, who is taking a ton of punishment and is on the brimk of going down and who will win?
This episode was masterful. This season will go down as the best finale season of a show in history
LOL, NO, it won't. Because it isn't. It's easily the worst Season of Succession. It's still Great, but still the worst season, and less Great than all the other 3.
Yeah can't agree either. It's still fantastic, but the first two seasons were way more varied and focussed on comedy and character more.. Great as this season is, its key focus is, understandably and inevitably, bringing the whole narrative to a close.
@@AdAstra78 You have understood the circumstances well. I have also noticed that there no longer is a Seasonal Main Character, and all the biggest characters now have pretty much the exact same amount of screentime, and nobody is pushing the plot forward more than anyone else.
My biggest criticism of the Season is the lack of humor, and lack of wit, and actually, poor pacing. Logan's death was the worst episode in the series simply because of how LOOOONG it was. It was dragged out. I'm not saying it should have been 5 minutes, but when 1 moment lasts 30 minutes, it loses some of it's impact.
@@juicypineapple6995 This is the best season of the show. You're hilarious.
Breaking Bad season 5, specifically part 2, is the greatest final season of any show ever, but Succession's doing a good job with what they have and where they need to take the story to wrap it up
best scene between tom and shiv ive been waiting for that the chemistry this season is so fire
The music during Shiv & Tom’s fight was beautiful. This show has an amazing score.
Agreed. Truly effective score 👏
Remember when people were saying they killed off Logan to early in the season and now we’ve had some of the most scheming crazy power playing episodes of the show since he’s been gone? Forgot the Roy’s, these show writers deserve to win Succession.
Dude just wanted some sleep
Yes, Men act like babies when they're overtired.
@@estellacoggins715can you blame us? Bois gotta sleep
@@estellacoggins715 Shiv must be exhausted
The craziest thing? Ive not even noticed Logan is missing
That smile Shiv gives at the end there, soo painful and forced, excellent by Snook
I don't want it to end. I need more Shiv and Tom.
I guess it's better if it ends here.....
We got 3 episodes of drama left, funny thing is once Logan died I stopped caring about who falls into "winning" anymore. I'm more invested in the relationships. It's why Kendall has kinda bored me this season.
I think that the actors have cause to be concerned that they will never have such wonderfully written characters to play every again 😢
Roman taking the lead on the funeral planning was basically his resignation after realizing he’s not cut out for it.
Or some twist to be expected in the next episode. Each sibling has their own thing going to usurp the power
I still think Roman is playing 4D chess. Deep down he is a killer he was always a killer. He’s the Romulous. Now that would be something. He will either do that or commit suicide.
@@samcad-ho3ze Yup, I have been anticipating his suicide since the first season and I rarely get hunches like these.
The fight was so heartbreaking
Highkey would’ve loved to see Shiv and Tom have that argument from the actors’ original accents.
Shiv basically treats Tom like Tom treats Greg
Matthew McFadyen and Sarah snook put on a generational performance on that balcony
Matthew macfadyen and sarah snook engraved his respective emmy after this episodes
absolutely hilarious how sarah is just laughing about the scene and so visibly enjoying the time she has with it, and matthew so nonchalant and almost proper about it. like what are you doing that scene was the wildest thing to ever happen to me and it DESTROYED me
Yes I actually find it so beautifully ironic that connor and willa's relationship is the healthiest and most successful in the show given that no one expected it to actually turn into anything
This show is just the epitome of Drama.
A Masterpiece to say the least and that balcony scene between shiv & Tom was just BRUTAL
🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️
Modern Shakespearean
I am heartbroken about Shiv and Tom. But how fckin realistic is this? Sometimes just when you think you got it together, a blow up like this just nukes a whole relationship, no grass will ever grow in that spot.
May I just go right ahead and say this:
This is officially thee BEST TV SHOW I HAVE EVER WATCHED IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE!!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Succession is truly destined for TV greatness👑👌🏿
How about The Night Of or Ozark?
@@colud_5446 Still yet to watch those. Currently binging other shows. Once I'm done with them, I'll check those out
it's like wolf of wall street in a series. Unforgettable
im not ready for this show to end
“See what my wOMAN thinks about OMAN” love it 😂
Watching this now I'm more calmed, because it was such a heavy loaded fight that two actors accomplished very well that it make it feel like it was real. I was upset last night and overwhelmed with anger and sadness before going to bed. Now thank you for the kind words that Sarah and Matthew have for each other in this clip.
How does Waystar Royco still exist? So much news worthy headlines for today’s episode. Karolina and Hugo were absent because they were probably working overtime! CO-CEO Kendall and CO CEO’s estranged ex-wife Rava’s public argument, CO-CEO Roman yelling at Presidential Candidate Connor, Tech Founder and potential Waystar Royco buyer having a public disagreement with CO -CEO Kendall. Founder’s daughter and former president of domestic operations Shiv having a verbal altercation with husband and ATN chair Tom, Founder’s Great nephew and executive assistant to ATN chair Greg laying off dozens of workers, Former Interim CEO and general counsel asking for money and threatening to release CO-CEO’s Roman’s sexts to public (that one was near the bartender, but anyone nearby could’ve heard it)
I mean the Rava & Ken story is a tabloid story at best. They can drop a politician but not CEOs. Plus most of the people in the room in this episode are just as important and realise that having Lukas and the kids on their side is better for them than going against them so they don't say anything.
Problem is if someone exposed something on them then they have a background team who will crush anything and anyone. Never ending money buys that protection. People and businesses are scared of them. Money = Power.
"Wonderful Episode" is how I describe Ted Lasso. This episode was heartbreaking and amazingly performed. Climactic masterpiece of an episode.
Loved the scene of Shiv and Tom on the balcony
Tom and Shiv's fight at the end is my favorite Succession scene of all time. Fantastic performances. I've watched that scene multiple times!
Tom and Shiv finally had their moment and they freaking rocked the boat so hard!
Tom and Shiv's fight was Epic, He let her have it
They both did
I thought the last fight between them from Season 2 finale was great, it just escalated in this episode. Amazing
Excellent, excellent interpretations. Those two performances define artistry. (I have strong "contempt" for both "characters as they're written and played, but at the same time I understand the characters, have empathy for them. What's more, I can separate the actors enough from the characters tthat they've created that I look at these artists and admire their talents to infinity.)
Who else thought Tom was gonna jump?
Me!!!!
It crossed my mind, sad to admit.
Him and Ebba made me nervous too. I was glad when the episode ended with no one taking a header.
god that scene with tomshiv was so so depressing but also so so good to see them let it out like it hurt yes but as a viewer this was so satisfying to see how matthe and sarah took this.
that type of scorpion eat their offspring and I immediately thought of this detail.
I really believe he doesn’t know she is pregnant as that is the one thing on earth he wants more than perhaps anything. yet good point if true. … what kind of scorpion is that? by a quick google search this is not a normal occurrence or habit of scorpions
Logan's not here and everyone's gone rogue.. no one is their DAD
Shiv & Tom were my favorite characters, I just can’t get enough of their scenes together
this might have been the best episode of the whole series
I love Gerri.
Gerri is furious with herself that she let Roman hurt her emotionally. I loved their relationship. Why are young women and older men okay but not young men and older
women?
The scene where Roman comes up to Geri at the bar, she does a slight recoil of repulsion. There are so many small subtlies that make it great.
Greatest show EVER
They ate that, one of the best couple fights i have ever seen.
The 'rats' story told by Javier Bardem as Silva in Skyfall aptly describes this brilliant series.
Tom and Shiv's relationship: Absolute sh*tshow
British way of saying it: "Quite a curious place" 3:24, I guess that's why Jesse Armstrong'a writing the show
God, loved Tom in the ending.
Why - (same btw)
@@xfozty2372 Tom needed that release. I don't care how sleazy he is, he's definitely been there for Shiv during her toughest times but all she's ever done is walk over him. Don't get me wrong, I like Shiv; girlypop, ha-ha, but that was a long time coming.
@@titasbhattacharyya he’s a social climber and betrayed her. It’s not one sided
@@bkc6873 of course it's not one sided. But I hate how Shiv has constantly trampled on him. Maybe it's my bias, idk, but yeah.
@@bkc6873exactlyyy he’s just as bad idg how ppl are fully blaming her
Such an incredible episode of TV. This entire season has been elite!
This season has become incredible.
Tom and shiv shouldn’t have ever gotten married the cracks were there since their wedding night.
Succession never disappoints! 🔥
Did anyone else forget that Kendall even had kids till they were brought back up at the beginning.
Yea he's such an absent father
Connor was seriously considering Oman instead of Slovenia, lol, American impressions about Eastern Europe are mind-boggling as usual
Ha. Yeah Slovenia is actually a fairytale paradise
@@RGBEAT I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but Slovenia is basically cheaper Italy/Austria, first world country, EU and NATO member with beautiful Mediterranean nature and Alpine landscapes. greetings from Poland (which is also developed country, it's not 1989 anymore).
@@blase777 I'm not being sarcastic! I haven't been, but I know it's a beautiful country with a high GDP and great quality of life (for most) in the middle of Europe. I'd love to go, and I'd love to see Poland too!!!
Such an extraordinary performance.
I love drunk and tired Tom.
roman and gerri :(
Funny thing is that I grew up in Oman 😂 Willa and Connor would have actually really thrived. They're Americans!
If Kendal and Frank 5 min turns out to be a real plan, what a masterpiece 😯😯🤩
Shiv and Tom's relationship is that of the tortoise and the scorpion who asked to cross the lake and promised not to back stack him when they do. What cab I say Shiv's a shiv and see just loves twisting her blade in Tom.
*Wow, this episode gave me an ulcer. Shiv and Tom implosion was just insane...yet I think they will work it out.*
This was a tough watch.
The show is positioning Ken to be the one to succeed but of course a surprise ending twist dictates that he once again cringingly Kendell's everything, and so I think Shiv gets it all and turns ATN from Fox into MSNBC.
Great and so sad. Tom and Shiv.
Best episode this season
Love every minute of this show
I hope Shiv aborts and Tom finds out "turns out I didn't want to have a child of yours either"
Not Connor being the best husband in the show
These videos aren’t long enough
They just completely skipped past Kendall attempting another coup?
Together with Frank just like in Season 1 and we all know how that ended 😬
@@Voyager759 Because Shiv and Roman have so many allies and people supporting them within the business...
They probably don’t want to talk about it because it will be an important part of the next episodes
It's gonna collapse....just look at his face when he gets told he's not Logan
@@Voyager759 As someone that watched VEEP, loss after loss, isn’t always an indicator that someone will fully flop. I’m going to wait and see. Do I see him getting a full fledged clear cut victory? No. Does that negate any chance of him winning? No. Would I be surprised if he lost? No.
Jeremy has previously said that he walked into the writers room in season one, and found a note that said ‘Kendall wins, but loses’. That can mean many different things.
Kendall flat out losing has been such a repetitive pattern that I get why it does feels like it absolutely has to keep occurring. This is a show though, that repeatedly teased Logan’s health issues, and in the episode before they offed Logan, had him about as revitalized as one could imagine. Patterns can be broken.
Great episode
Matthew and Sarah are amazing in this, but the dark horse canidate for best supporting actor is for sure Alan Ruck. Stand out episode for him for sure.
I would be fine if they dumped the rest and we just followed Shiv and Tom for the rest of the show.
I say that as someone who loves the whole cast and all the characters
‘Who is such a darling to yell at ?!’ What does that even mean?
Her co star. it’s called acting - playing off one another
Matthew (actor who plays Tom) is a delightful person in real life....
Now I wish the echo was on the episode
I loved Gerri and Roman. They feel so authentic. although Rom is slightly broken, i feel they could just take care of each other and hangout more often in a matured way instead of all the d*** pics.
i love all those people
Oh man, MacFadyen himself looks kind of depressed and sad in this interview. Look at his eyes..
If Connors actor thinks he's gonna end up on top that would be a trash ending 💯💯💯
Maybe Tom knew that Shiv is (was) pregnant and already aborted? It makes sense since this has not been addressed since episode 4? The "scorpion" present was a subtle "I know what you did".
There's absolutely no way that's wouldn't have come up during such a raw argument. Pretty safe to say that'd be Tom's main focus.
Did she abort?! Did I miss something, I don’t recall that
@@DonInADresscomment is pure speculation and I say 100% inaccurate
& maybe unicorns are real
No, that makes no sense. The conversation about her not being a good person to have kids with would have gone very differently
It finally got sed Tom used her to climb the corporate ladder
Tom does love her though, right?
Yes and she him … I think. They both were thinking of each other once in bed - seperate beds
Yes he does…but Shiv like her siblings is incapable of real love is as she’s never been given it or modelled it by either parent
I don't understand. Have they talked about her being pregnant? Does Tom know?
the whole I was screaming at Shiv to tell Tom she's carrying his child. At least they hashed it out, next time they talk theyre starting from square one
Tom is American ; Matthew is British
Who’s afraid of a ginger wolf?
having ebba tell kendall and roman about the india numbers was poor writing
Which is why I think it may be a play by the swedes to manipulate the failsons to act contrary to the best interest of their shareholders
@@stupidcupid111100 Exactly. They were all very strange at the tailgate party and were supposed to be there showing their best behavior. Ebba had a very
strange smile on her face when Kendall confronted Lukas about India. I think it was a play.
@@faithworldleader6891 let's see if we're correct
Amazing how these British actors can turn off their accent
Tom is british????????
Every second episode is one of them backstabbing the other, its tiresome
I like Toms American accent so much better than his English one 😂
ofcourse you do.Because the whole universe 'speak American'.
Bit of a filler episode, but that’s normally unavoidable
are you out of your mind
Filler??
What?
How is this a filler episode? That Tom Shiv scene was explosive.
I disagree. It was a set-up episode, or what I call a chess-piece episode. Alliances and balances of power were shifting with each duo interaction (Kendall / Frank, Roman / Gerri, Shiv / Tom, Matsson / Ebba, Connor / Willa).
@@_abracadabra set-up, filler, same thing. I agree with you