Hello! Fantastic video as always and what a nice Drummer is Mr.Kenny Washington! One question: Can the rivets be removed and replaced by hand? Cause we can see that the little holes still there. Thank you so much!
In this 2nd video, the new one sounds better than in the 1st video; however, I'm still digging the old Zildjian sound! I wonder how they compared in weight because I'm thinking that might be the difference. Straight out of the oven sounds pretty good to me! I do believe that older does often sound better than new.... just my opinion!
I tried it this weekend and it was the best cymbal I played, but could not get to pay the price tag davesdrumshop.com/collections/zildjian/products/zildjian-22-k-constantinople-bounce-ride. I found an old Zildjian from the 70s - I had to play all of Daves used cymbals to find one that sounds like the Bounce Ride, more like the original.
Playing a cymbal for a number of years doesn't add anything to it. That's just cymbal mythology. The old K was just a better cymbal from day one. You could play that Zildjian Bounce for 1000 years and it still wouldn't sound any better, and the old K would still come out on top. The original sound will always be richer in tonality and with loads more charater. You can't reproduce that with a hammering machine.
YES BUT K CONSTANTINOPLE IS THE MOST CLOSE TO IT AND QUITE ORIGINAL IN PERSONALITY. ELVIN JONES HIMSELF CREATED THEM TO COPY THEM. OLD K ARE THE STRADIVARIUS OF CYMBALS AND THEY GAIN QUALITY AFTER USE (LIKE STRADIVARIUS) SO, CAN'T MATCH AS BRAND NEW ONE. IT IS LIKE AGED COGNAC IN OAK BARRELS. AFTER FEW DECADES OF PLAYING, I AM QUITE SURE K CONSTANTINOPLE WILL REACH THAT SOUND QUALITY. I TESTED ALL MODELS OF RIDES IN ALL MARKS AT RELEASE IN 1997 IN BEST STORE IN FRANCE (LA BAGUETTERIE) AND I WAS LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY BY THE UNIQUE SOUND QUALITY OF K CONSTANTINOPLE COMPARED TO ALL OTHERS, AND THE MOST CLOSE TO VANGUARD JAZZ 60'S SOUND, WHICH IS FOR ME THE PEAK OF JAZZ DRUMS QUALITY (ELVIN JONES, TONY WILLIAMS AND JOE MORELLO). SECOND LEVEL ARE ALL K MODELS AND AFTER, ALL OTHER ZILDJIAN'S RIDE: ZILDJIAN IS THE HISTORICAL REFERENCE (EVEN THE NAME MEANS "CYMBAL MAKER" DATING FROM SULTAN'S AGES) THANKS TO UNIQUE SECRET PROCESS AND ALLOY. LIKE FOR THE BEST COGNACS, WHATEVER THE FABRICATION IS, THE QUALITY OF THE FRUITS LINKED TO GROUND AND CLIMATE, MAKES ALL.
SO SMOOTH, SO DARK, SO WELL DEFINED WOODEN STICK SOUND, SO ROUND, SO BEAUTIFUL, SO EXPRESSIVE! NO EQUIVALENT!
Beautiful sound, beautiful playing.
Hello! Fantastic video as always and what a nice Drummer is Mr.Kenny Washington! One question: Can the rivets be removed and replaced by hand? Cause we can see that the little holes still there. Thank you so much!
Beautiful ride.
In this 2nd video, the new one sounds better than in the 1st video; however, I'm still digging the old Zildjian sound! I wonder how they compared in weight because I'm thinking that might be the difference. Straight out of the oven sounds pretty good to me! I do believe that older does often sound better than new.... just my opinion!
@DubsMood of course !!! it has been played for almost 50 years that influences the sound very much :)
they should make bounce, renaissance, and medium thin low hi hats. why does zildjian only make one type?
Kenny Washington. Man.
@miffy126 he didn't say it, but it's a Zildjian I guess.
I tried it this weekend and it was the best cymbal I played, but could not get to pay the price tag davesdrumshop.com/collections/zildjian/products/zildjian-22-k-constantinople-bounce-ride. I found an old Zildjian from the 70s - I had to play all of Daves used cymbals to find one that sounds like the Bounce Ride, more like the original.
@miffy126 It's a Zildjian that's why he returned it to them...
Older I guess.
the original is somewhat richer in tone ;/
Playing a cymbal for a number of years doesn't add anything to it. That's just cymbal mythology. The old K was just a better cymbal from day one. You could play that Zildjian Bounce for 1000 years and it still wouldn't sound any better, and the old K would still come out on top. The original sound will always be richer in tonality and with loads more charater. You can't reproduce that with a hammering machine.
firstnational cymbals age over time and that changes the tonal qualities.
YES BUT K CONSTANTINOPLE IS THE MOST CLOSE TO IT AND QUITE ORIGINAL IN PERSONALITY.
ELVIN JONES HIMSELF CREATED THEM TO COPY THEM.
OLD K ARE THE STRADIVARIUS OF CYMBALS AND THEY GAIN QUALITY AFTER USE (LIKE STRADIVARIUS) SO, CAN'T MATCH AS BRAND NEW ONE.
IT IS LIKE AGED COGNAC IN OAK BARRELS.
AFTER FEW DECADES OF PLAYING, I AM QUITE SURE K CONSTANTINOPLE WILL REACH THAT SOUND QUALITY.
I TESTED ALL MODELS OF RIDES IN ALL MARKS AT RELEASE IN 1997 IN BEST STORE IN FRANCE (LA BAGUETTERIE) AND I WAS LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY BY THE UNIQUE SOUND QUALITY OF K CONSTANTINOPLE COMPARED TO ALL OTHERS, AND THE MOST CLOSE TO VANGUARD JAZZ 60'S SOUND, WHICH IS FOR ME THE PEAK OF JAZZ DRUMS QUALITY (ELVIN JONES, TONY WILLIAMS AND JOE MORELLO).
SECOND LEVEL ARE ALL K MODELS AND AFTER, ALL OTHER ZILDJIAN'S RIDE: ZILDJIAN IS THE HISTORICAL REFERENCE (EVEN THE NAME MEANS "CYMBAL MAKER" DATING FROM SULTAN'S AGES) THANKS TO UNIQUE SECRET PROCESS AND ALLOY.
LIKE FOR THE BEST COGNACS, WHATEVER THE FABRICATION IS, THE QUALITY OF THE FRUITS LINKED TO GROUND AND CLIMATE, MAKES ALL.