FAIL! Don't buy a DV8 Tire Carrier | Jeep Wrangler
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2019
- Hi Team,
Today we show you step by step our install process on the DV8 bumper on our JK. We have had our eye out for this bumper for some time now, and we recently decided to pull the trigger...and we regret it. The quality control of the product leaves a lot to be desires and the setup has a huge design flaw. Make sure to watch the video until the end to hear all of our comments and complaints. Even with a replacement bracket, we still had loads of issues. Now we know why more people aren't running this setup, and this goes to show you that not every jeep part fits easily.
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You guys were not wrong! I watched your video yesterday. Today I installed the beast. I had to grind a ton of metal off those hinges and it still doesn’t quite fit right. It’s very poor quality. I’ll be making a video and posting it on my new channel. I’ll give you guys a shout out. Thanks for the help.
Oh boy! I'm so sorry to hear that! It was a brutal install for sure. We look forward to watching your video! Cheers 🥂 🍻
Thanks! I love that you enjoy the Jeep Life as a couple. I am still in the dog house for getting the JK. I will live vicariously through your enjoyment!
Haha! That's pretty funny.. I guess we got lucky!
@@Garagecouple as advertised, I posted my own video and acknowledged that I should have listened to you both! ruclips.net/video/_3w0vHFj_vI/видео.html
I’m no Mechanic by any means and y’all r making this out to be way way harder than it needs to be. I installed this on my 17 Jeep, and yes it took time and patients, but nothing like the way y’all make it look or sound. Could DV8 have made parts as to not grind out the pins, sure, but @ how much more of a cost to us? It’s already $$$....... all in all not that hard with a bit of commons sense and elbow grease.
Loved the video but dude when you punched out the holes on the left side it KILLED me. You dented the quarter panel when you didn’t need to and that bracket is not going to sit flush on the panel because it’s got multiple dents underneath. Also a dremel is not the right tool. A grinding disk would have gotten the bolt out of the hinge WAY quicker. I am also curious, how did the bracket on the left side fit perfectly when you were lining it up to mark the holes but after install it didn’t? My suspicion is that when you punched out the holes, denting the quarter, because the bracket is no longer perfectly flush against the panel it caused it to be misaligned slightly causing the issue you had.
Thank you so much for the comment! The theme of our channel is to get it done with the tools we have or with those that are incredibly readily available..That being said, despite denting the panel, the bracket sits flush once you tighten the bolts. In fact, when I removed the bracket, it was no longer dented. The issue with the bracket was even when it is off the vehicle, the two tabs did not align with the tire carrier, as you could imagine, it turned into a nightmare after installing since it didn't align during the very best case scenario - off the vehicle.
I agree, a grinding disk would have been better, however, most people have dremels, so we wanted to show that it IS possible with a dremel. IF we ever decide to part ways with the carrier, we will repair the holes or get corner guards. Not a problem. Happy jeeping and thanks for your comment and support!
I thought the same , he did some bad options but The product is poor
Just as a note for others watching this when you center punch to drill all you need to do is make a small mark that a small drill bit will center on so that the bit stays in place when starting the hole you dont need to punch through the metal.
Ive installed maybe 8-9 of these dv8 kits and have had ZERO of the issues that you have had. You’re not supposed to file anything on the kit. Its your mistake for trying to tackle something that you’re not familiar with. YOU messed up your kit AND your jeep. All I’ve ever had to do was give the hinges a very slight love tap to open them up, level the kit from side to side with the bumper as a guide. Tighten the passenger side, then line up the driver side hinge plate THEN mark your holes checking 4-5 times before drilling to avoid ONE of your mistakes. You have given a bad product revue due to YOUR shit abilities. People think that they must do everything alone (built not bought) but if its NOT your forte then dont be afraid to get help. I give full props for doing it yourself but your install would have had not one issue had you just asked a local shop a few questions. Be safe riding. Happy trails.
You got some solid kits. Unfortunately we didn't. If all I had to do was tap it in, I assure you I would have. I'm happy for your success, but dozens and dozens of others across all of our social media have told us they had the same issues. Even when we contacted the company they said they have issues during welding and that the bracket . Anyways, what's done is done. I'm glad you had positive experiences.
Also, our kit wouldn't even align when it was off the vehicle.. I mean, that bit has nothing to do with install process.
Great video guys! I like that you don't edit out the struggle. A lot of youtube install videos make things look so easy.
Appreciate the support!
Wow, thank for the install video, and thanks for sticking it out!
Thank you! Appreciate the comment!
Thank you for the video. I ended up getting a bumper mounted swing away tire carrier. Super solid, and opens with the tailgate so you do not have to open the tire carrier separately. My install was soooo much easier than yours. For what it's worth, yours does look way cooler than mine.
Thanks for the support! Yeah we hope to switch to that down the line!
Thanks for the video. I have just started modifying a Mercedes rear wheel holder for my Jeep. The big tubing matches my bull bar at the front, and the side tubes.
Nice! That sounds very unique. Hopefully your experience isn't as frustrating as ours!
Just a thought maybe having the bracket with the 2 pins already on the tire carrier would allow you to swing it closed and you would be able to see exactly where to mount the bracket on the jeep.
Nice effort Garage couples. I almost went with those tire carrier. But on my jeep i went with a teraflex tire carrier. Straight up plug n' play.. no drilling required and easy acces to the trunk.
Seriously jealous of that. Wish we did the same!
Thanks for this, I bought the bumper that is shown with this carrier majority of the time online. The RS-14, it is just like this carrier. It looks cool, but there are ABSOLUTELY no LED lights that fit in it, and it only bolts to the side frame, not the middle one by the muffler. I called DV8 about the LED light situation, I see some bumpers come with flush mounted LED lights. Exact questions and answers “Do you have the lights for this bumper?” “No sir we no longer sale them.” “Okay, what kind are they so I can go to my Jeep store and get them?” “2 inch LED, cube.” “No they’re not. I have those, and they don’t fit.” “Well we do sale the wiring kit you’ll need!” “No I won’t need that, and what good does having the wiring kit if you don’t even have the light?”
Guy at Jeep store said they didn’t account for the housing of the LED light. Also the reason he switched from carrying DV8, to Rough County products. Stated he hated that kept manufacturing something, it wouldn’t work, so they’d modify it to “make part of it work”, but still sold it.
Yup. Total junk quality control.
Thanks for doing his video. I was considering getting the DV8 tire carrier, but after your video. I think I will start looking for a bumper mount carrier.
Thanks for the support
It’s very disappointing to get something that don’t fit . I have had that happen several times and had to return them. Thanks you both really enjoy your show the decant ion you have in making your shows. God Bless!
Thanks for the support! Cheers and God bless
I've always love the look of these design way before I don't even owned a Wrangler. Now with a Rubicon Wrangler now. I feel sorry for you guys dealing with these serious imperfections and flaws. Just sad. Since this is 3 years ago. Perhaps newer install has updated these flaws.
Thanks for the comment. We will just steer clear of this company..years later...
I’m not gonna say what is right and what is wrong. The point here. Is that you are enjoying yourselves and spending time together doing something you both like. And that is awesome.
Not gonna lie glad to see diy projects but invest in some tools grinders impact guns and other things glad to see you guys together out working on the Jeep
Thank you !
I felt like I was there stressing with you. Most of my projects go this way...lol. You are correct DV8 should have designed this better.
Thanks for the support 🍺
I have the same carrier and had no problem with the install. I guess that's why they say professional installation required lol I did it by myself and I also customized my truck alone.
good video but side grinder is a must and id have placed the brackets against jeep and line it up before drilling anything.take a sharpie and make your marks,then check it over a few more times before you drill.i know it was a night-mare but you fixed it and it looks good.cant say i could have done any better but side grinders are a must for grinding,cutting and removing paint or metal.great come back.you kicked its butt.love it.knew you could
This is very true. We have one but we choose to use a dremel for convenience.
I had to cut the bracket to make it work right. Wish I could share a pic of the end result. Your video helped with not spending tons of time on it though. Thanks.
Awesome! You are very welcome! Looking forward to getting rid of it soon!
hey guys great video you guys are awesome. if nothing else you showed exactly what people should expect from DV8. i'm sorry you had to go through that to teach us though. it is way cool you guys are learning this together I love it. some of these modifications do get a little frustrating getting them installed but the end result is what your after. The bad a$$ jeep collection you have.
Thanks for watching! We appreciate your support!
The state where I am requires a third brake light. Is there a place to mount the stock one or even a taller aftermarket one to accommodate taller tires?
Thanks for the comment! Check out our latest upload to see how we wired the third brake light as well as the license plate light! Cheers! 🍻
For your convenience ruclips.net/video/7c4FK1swYPs/видео.html
Great video showcasing how great the DV8 tire carrier makes the JK look but the QC and installation hassles is a BIG turnoff! I went with the Teraflex HD hinge and it was truly "bolt-on". I miss the aggressive look of the DV8 but don' t want any of the problems. I see rust issues in the NE and rattles on the trail. Mods can be done to reduce the issues I mentioned but for the price it should have been better. Onto the next mod....;)
Nice! That's a solid choice! In retrospect I would go that same route! Hopefully ours doesn't cause any more headache than it already has. Cheers 🍻
Hey guys nice video love to see DIY'er getting stuff done, you two need to get a couple of shop tools to make your life easier. as a cut-off wheel grinder, the pins would have been out in less than 1 minute, cut the pin in the middle, and push both ends out and you're done. I'm thinking of buying this tire rack what do you think about it if it wasn't hard to install?
Would completely steer clear! Go with another brand that makes quality products, poison spyder being one! Thanjs for your support
Pariluys. Was turned on to this channel chatting with your sister a couple weeks back. Love it! I also have a TJ and just completed the Rubicon trail last month. Just wanted to say you guys are doing a great job and I love the fact your dealing with both a JK & TJ. One stop channel. Swing by the park this Sunday for an event your sis and bro in law are going to be attending. Ask them about it. Would love to compare TJ’s 😜
Hey! Thanks for the comment and for the kind words! I'll ask her about it, but we have a jam packed weekend. I have more parts than time.. Lockers and winch for the tj and redoing the lighting system on the JK. Among a dozen other smaller things. Probably won't get to all of em. Hopefully the installs won't be as brutal as the dv8 carrier! Oh and the TJ is the clear winner! 😊
No worries. Do your thing. Even though that DV8 install was a nightmare, I’ve gotta say I found the realism of the controlled frustration you conveyed to be quite refreshing. It was real with no bullshit. I’ve been there before as well. Keep up the great work and I hope this was the worst that comes your way. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger 😉. Take care!
Right on! Thanks for those kind words! Let me know next time you guys meet up, we would love to join! You can snag my number from sis 😊
I stumbled upon this channel and can both relate to and appreciate the mistakes, struggles, learn-as-you-go lessons, and victories. By the way... I mounted that bumper on two of my JKUs but both kits came with the complete hinges. So, I'm not clear why you had to retrofit yours. That said, my experience with DV8 has been hit-or-miss. I also removed the pieces (including welded brackets) that look like metal webbing and in my opinion, it had a cleaner look.
Awesome! Thanks for the support!
The install was actually very easy. What you did wrong was you failed to install the alignment nut. I used a level and adjusted the nut until it was perfectly level. Then shut the tire carrier and used that as the template to punch the holes and drill. With it level the bottom screw goes in with ease. Failing to do so the bottom screw will be in a different area making it impossible to put the nut on like in your case. As for the hinges not being big enough I used my old stock lower control arms to pry them bigger just a little so I didn’t have to sand and prevented corrosion. Sorry for your terrible experience. It definitely was a pain in the ass though.
Thank you for the comment and insight. The thing is, our kit didn't come with an alignment nut, and the official instructions also did not mention the alignment nut. I knew it existed because I saw it when I researched the carrier, however I assumed it was phased out. In any case, that was just one of the obstacles lol. We basically avoid the trunk now, hopefully get it removed one of these days if you haven't done so check out our wiring video to see how we added a brake light and license light. Cheers
Had the exact same problems installing one of these on my friends jeep. While they look great it feels like they don't even have a quality control department. Ours was so bad, it would take so much force to get it to close that we ended up having to get DV8 to replace it. When we got the new one also found out they either gave us an old or defective one the first time around. The top right bolt was not welded correctly at all.
Oh man, I'm sorry you had a similar experience. Currently we are avoiding using our trunk. Such a shame, we lost functionality with this one.
@@Garagecouple Yeah, my friend liked the look of it but it is a bit of a pain. With mine I wanted my carrier to work with the tailgate in tandem. If you guys every think about changing, the Maximus-3 Tailgate is what I have, its pricy, but it works great!
maximus-3.com/home/maximus-3-jk-modular-tire-carrier-sport-package
Always remember to spray coat any drilled or grinded parts of vehicles...prevents rusting. In your case it probably was a defective bracket. I would of made sure all aligned well before attempting to put together. At your stage , I probably would of used a mini vice to pry open the bracket just a weeee bit.
1 dropped the ball & got this Genright knockoff myself & fortunately I didn't have as many issues as you did. I'm not suggesting it's user error but more like quality control. I had issues with the passenger side. I filed down the mount & rubber bushing but then spray painted the bare metal. I understand why you feel as if you shouldn't have to do so but why would you leave bare steel exposed & expect it not to rust? That's a no brainer. I got lucky with driver's side, everything lined up. Not quite sure how you weren't able to get all the bolts to pass through, I didn't encounter that problem. They could replace the driver's side mount a dozen times but if the the dimensions on the carrier itself are off then all the mounts in the world aren't going to make a difference. All said n done, DV8 is junk. I've sinced replaced it with an EVO body mount carrier which is a God send! That DV8 carrier was the last thing I installed anything on my Jeep that isn't Made in the USA & anything that wasn't prior to that has also been replaced. That's why I have no pity for anyone that has issues with junk that was made over seas, especially no name Amazon/eBay stuff. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. There was a time when DV8 showed promise for those that didn't have a bottomless build budget but ever since they got bought out by Drake Automotive Group, everything went downhill from there. DV8 is the new Smittybilt.
Appreciate the comment! We are mos likely either going to replace this tire carrier soon or we are going to take it to a fabricator to make it how it should have been from the factory. Agree with you, total junk!
I’ve seen a lot of DV8 carriers and I’ve gotta day you guys definitely got the worst end of it. I’ve spoken to lots who had an easy install and no issues, and have only heard of 1 or 2 that had some issues. Biggest downside people have told me about is the powder coat sucks and it starts to rust very early on. That alone is enough to steer me away. Looking forward to a future video where you remove this and fix up all of the holes as go to something better for you guys.
Thank you for the comment! Unfortunately, many others (10+) have reached out to us and said they had the exact same issues. We basically avoid using the trunk now, which sucks because the carrier no longer aligns. I think we will end up putting corner guards and a spare tire carrier bumper..Cheers
Yup and all 10 of these ppl also tried too diy & just intalled incorrectly.. DV8 tire carrier’s hands down one of the best you can buy lol cant blame them for a poor install.. thats on the installer, i mean 🤷🏻♂️ lol
Uhh.. if it doesn't align off the vehicle then it won't align on the vehicle. No bueno
Looks so good, to bad it was such a hassle, sorry you had to go thru that.
Man, sorry you guys went through all that, that is freakin ridiculous! I 100% agree with you, that is unacceptable to have to grind off the powder coat, and it is unacceptable to have you drill a hole in the body of your Jeep that you then can't even use! And it's in the directions to file down the powder coat????? I've heard a LOT of horror stories with DV8. IMO, any company that will spend all that time and money to perfectly laser cut their logo right into the center of your bumper for the world to see, but can't get the brackets and holes to line up, is a company that only cares about form and doesn't give a damn about function. Thanks for the honest review!
Thanks for the comment and kind words! It's a bummer, we really like the way it looks. Clearly the products aren't tested before they are shipped out, which also stinks because it requires drilling into the body. Always happy to post our honest reviews. This one really let us down. Even the replacement part was useless.
Thanks for the video, sorry to hear you had so much trouble. I install this on mine and it all went together with out any real issues. i did have a plate that went inside the body on the drivers side to sandwich the body, I didn't see you put one in there. My questions is how many issues do you have with your tail lights? because of the way they hook on one side and then screw on the other but the brackets on both sides are wider than the space inside the tail lights. I do love my tire carrier though.
Hi there! We called them to ask about the piece you mentioned, and they said its not necessary (it didn't come with our kit)
We love the way it looks but its been a real pain. We avoid the trunk. No issues at all with fitment of the tail lights. Thanks for the support!
@@Garagecouple really? I would think that plate would be very necessary considering how thin the sheetmetal is there.
Have you had to change bulbs or tail light housings. Now that is a royal pain.
I'm wondering if a thick piece of rubber placed behind the bracket would have been helpful.
I dont think it would have helped with the alignment
Hi guys... really enjoy your video reviews. Binched-watched a bunch of them. However, here are a few things I would have done differently. (Monday AM QB)
1) Take all measurements, mark screwholes without the heavy tire on. The tire put weight on the rack, giving you false hole locations
2) Dont use a dremel, use an angle grinder
3) dont punch holes, just mark them with a spring loaded center punch
3) you should never have to file anything with a finish, it will rust. I believe you had to do that because (1) - things were not lined up.
Sorry it didnt go well. It looked promising.
What size is your wheel? And what’s the width of the tires?
In this video 35 by 12.50 by 15. Currently 37 by 13.50 r 17.
That’s why I don’t have the spare on the back of my Jeep. I putt my spare in the back when I go wheelin. Never have to worry about it. And it saves on weight 😎
Man that is terrible. Here in Michigan, that jeep would be rusted out in a couple of years with all the holes you have to drill. No thanks! I'll go with the bumper mounted carrier. Great vid thanks for doing this.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, a lot less headache to do the bumper. Also, keeps the trunk usable as now we try to avoid it. Luckily where we live we don't get snow and not a lot of rain either. Cheers 🍻
I have the same tire carrier and it was the same story installing mine. Nothing lined up and it took over a month of contacting the company to get anything done. Wouldn’t recommend, but what can you expect from Chinese manufacturing. Now I can’t open my rear window, but hey, at least it looks cool!
Thanks for the comment. Can't deny that it looks cool, but man, it's so not worth it. I can't believe how much easier it would have been to slap on a tire carrier bumper. Cheers and thanks for the comment! 🍻
🤦♂️ That was hard to watch. Thumbs up for your effort though.
Thank you so much!
Wow that was rough. Sucks ya'll had to deal with all those issues. An here I thought DV8 was supposed to be a high quality product line. Looks like they could use some improvements to their QA process.
Thanks for the comment! Exactly, for 700 dollars, I would expect it to be ready to install (not even plug and play). Shouldn't have to mod the parts to make them fit...
Thanks for the video. It helped me make the decision not to buy this tire carrier!
Always happy to help!
Seems like could be nice product. I maybe would of took lil material off of the bushing side, left the powder coating untouched?
I would have gone with the JCR Offroad bumper and tire carrier before drilling all those holes.
Yep!
@@Garagecouple I put JCR on my TJ after using a different tire carrier that I had to drill mounting holes for on the hinge side only. I should have just spent the money on the better one in the first place.
Yup! Not rich enough to buy cheap parts for sure
It has a cam bolt to adjust the height
It didn't come with the cam bolt, and the cam bolt was not in the official pdf instructions. That being said, our issue was not the height, it was the alignment which would not have changed with the cam bolt. It's a poor design.
I don't know if anyone else mentioned, but there are a couple of issues that's clear. First, you should NOT have had the spare tire on while marking the holes. The weight between that and they way you were leaning on it while marking the holes made it sag down too far, which is why the bottom hole was too far down. If you watch while prepping to mark the holes, you can see how far up/down the tire carrier is flexing when it's leaned on. With that said, your adjustment bolt should have been centered and would have helped a lot, if not completely. Second, you only needed to put a very slight mark with a center punch. That's only used to prevent the drill bit from walking. I'm not trying to hate, so please don't take it that way, just constructive criticism. Keep on keepin' on!
Appreciate the feedback. Those were small bumps along the way. The major issues which make this a total bust is how it wouldn't even align off the vehicle before even attempting install. That and the both the original and replacement brackets have holes which are impossible to access from behind the tail light.suppose we got another system, our little mistakes would have still yielded a usable product. Live and learn.
@@Garagecouple agreed. The good news is that it looks like the poison spider carrier will cover all of the old holes, so it should look great if you choose to go that route. 😀 Be aware, it isn't without its flaws as well. It tends to loosen up at the latch, but easily remedied with a welder and couple small bits of metal to strengthen it.
Your going to need to make those bump stops fit, or once you hit the trails it’s going to rattle!
Thanks for the comment! I was so frustrated I gave up on that part. It's a super tight fit anyway, as in it doesn't wiggle at all. I figured I could ditch the bumpstop (it doesn't fit and I was tired of fabricating things)
Please pick up a cheap grinder from harbor freight there like $20 and when grind pin heads easy fix for when they get stuck after dunk the part in cold water metal expands when it gets hot and the shock should brake the compression seal made from grinding look out y'all keep up the hard work and happy wheeling
Thanks for the tip! We have a grinding wheel, appreciate the support and feedback
is that a military mc caw
Hes a mitred conure! Military macaws are perfect
Sweet!! We are in California as well. What part are you guys located?
Thanks for the comment! We are in southern California!
@@Garagecouple Nice we are in Northern California looking for cool Jeep community up here. Love SoCal as well always down in the area. ;)
Nice nice! Let us know next time!
I’m sorry that the DV8 was such a disappointment. It was a product we were considering but, it’s off the list now. Maybe we’ll go with a bumper made to hold a tire carrier. Keep up the great content. Also it’s a Jeep not a car 1:10 ;)
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad the video helped with your decision making process. Yes yes, a Jeep! 🚙 Haha 🍻
Apher Jon, use a file, not a rasp, rasp is for wood or plastic... otherwise fun video
Haha thank you for that!
Not gonna lie glad to see people doing diy projects but man invest some tools it will save you a ton of headache
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No excuses, that shouldn't happen. You should try and bore out the screw hole that's giving you the problem and hammer on the attaching area to open the brackets. Good luck. I will never put that junk on my jeep.
before I *buy* and install anything for my jeep, I make sure how it's installed. Thanks. I do need a stronger tire carrier. I definitely will not be buying that DV8 tire carrier.
Glad to have helped! Cheers!
I bought rough country hinge carrier. Best decision ever.
Jeep Creep rough country products are the worst.
Dang... I would be mad everytime I looked at it.
As we are..lol
I realize this is 3 years old, I think you have had a lot of growth in working on your Jeeps, but if you look back, there is several things you could have done differently. Use an angle grinder to cut the pins on the hinges and not trying to align the bracket with the tire mounted to the carrier. Just my 2 cents.
A lot has changed in the way we install products but quite honestly, this product was horrific. Will never purchase from dv8 ever again.
Thanks for sharing the trials and tribulations. When he said plug and playing thought he used the F word. LOL. It may be best to have a bumper tire carrier as it can support the weight of the tire with less issues. Cheers, love the videos!
Thanka for the comment and support! We hope to upgrade to a bumper tire carrier someday!
Nice Work as usual! Do you two have a social media account? If not you guys should make one, with Jeep updates/adventures! 👍🏼
Thanks for the comment! We do! We have an instagram, you can search Garagecouple. Aleen completely manages the instagram account :)
When they said to center punch it did not mean to pinch all the way through. You could bend the metal doing it the way you did it. And that carries looks cheap. The welds on the tire mount itself looks like crap.
haha this is true!
ITs been 3 years, have they fixed these issues ?!
No idea
It took me less than 2 hrs to install mine and didn’t have to modify anything and it holds a 43” tire. Proper install makes a world of difference.
It's a quality control issue. Would be a 2hr install if everything came ready to go. Parts were terrible and we aren't the only ones who have had this issue. Just Google it.
@@Garagecouple I’ve had mine for over 6 years. A lot of mistakes were made on your install but kudos for doing things yourself. I’ve installed the EVO one, PS one and they all have quirks. Even when things are welded up in jigs, things pull and move and tolerances change. Even when tightening down brackets if you over torque a bolt it can change figment.
@Shawn Hines you're totally right with the mistakes that were made, neither of us are mechanics, both of us are working professionals. The parts wouldn't even align with themselves while on the floor... the design is flawed, it should only have 1 pin to keep it closed instead of two. Several other things as well
Mine works perfect I think is is installation problem not the carrier
Nope. Didn't work even before the install
Dios Mio , Im sorry you had to waste youre money and time on this product . Thank you for sharing this too , Was about to buy it
happy we could help!
@@Garagecouple Im sorry about youre jeep too , took some damage 😨
2:30 is where its at...
hmm
Ah! You left out your alignment nut on the top hinge!
Their official instructions do not include the alignment nut and it did not come with our kit. The alignment is not our problem, it's that the two receiving ends of the bracket don't align with the carrier when installed.
Garage Couple you’re right, it doesn’t explicitly state to install the nut. There is a photo of it in Step 10, then it references the adjustment for aligning the carrier to the bracket in Step 22. If your kit didn’t come with the black alignment nut, I would be upset too. Another tip, if you want to go back and mess with it, is tap out the bushing sleeves in the carrier bushing where the pins go and shave them down one or two mm.
Garage Couple I installed this carrier by myself so I understand it’s definitely a fight!
Thanks for the comments. I am completely over it. I did end up shaving the bushings too. Hope I never have to work on it ever again lol
can you shim it out
Nope:/
Check out the poison spider carrier it’s built way better
Agree!
That was brutal to watch. Kit definitely seemed like a POS but you definitely made some mistakes as well. No way in hell I'm drilling into the body to mount that thing in the first place.
Yup, we made some mistakes, but the kit itself gave us a really hard time. Thanks for watching
Your right poor design? For what the price of that carrier, it should have installed much easier, good video, now I no what tire carrier not to get for my jeep.
Thank you for the comment! I completely agree, it was certainly not a smooth install. Let us know what you decide to go with :)
While this carrier may not be perfect, I knew installation issues were going to happen once you broke a taillight. It seems like you guys didn’t use the adjustment cam on the top and definitely either got old instructions or didn’t use the instructions. On their webpage the instructions seem pretty clear to me
Thanks for the comment. It didn't come with the cam, also didn't come with the license plate bracket or the reinforcement plate. The pdf that comes with the kit did not mention the cam. Yes, instructions sound clear, installation is a whole other issue. Our issue had nothing to do with the alignment cam. The bracket is not compatible with the carrier and requires heavy modification to work. Posted this on various pages and got a wealth of others experiencing all the same issues, let alone the issue of not being able to use all 5 bolts for the bracket.
Garage Couple the bracket issue definitely sucked, hope I have better luck than you guys
And also, attaching the carrier to the hinge bracket was so absurdly, ridiculously difficult that it required an insane amount of force, which happened to cause the carrier to hit the tail light. If the carrier slipped in, it wouldn't have happened. I had to shave down that bracket for about 30 minutes before it would even remotely slide in with max force. Instructions say 30 minute install time and looks clear, but its horrible design and doesn't go in as described.
I hope so too, but having gotten two bad brackets I'd say your chances are slim
nice channel, and you do have some great little vids on it but, this lol..... y'all made some major mistakes installing that
Thanks for the comment.. Enlighten us! Thanks 🍻
You know you can Adjust it with that big bolt in the passenger side
Nope. Doesn't align into the brackets
That tire carrier definitely looks like overkill if you ask me.
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Putting mine on was hell!!! I think I’m missing hardware geez. Nothing lined up right!!!
Oh no! Sorry to hear it happened to you too!
Why didn't you just use black spray paint on the bare metal? Of course it is going to rust.
The tolerance is so tight it would have not worked. Also if you watch towards end you'll see they sent a second bracket which also didn't fit,but didn't need to be shaved down
@@Garagecouple wow that was brutal...when done looks awesome but a PIA. I would have been so pissed. YOU REALLY KEPT YOUR COOL.Glade I went with the Rugged Ridge tail gate carrier. FITS GREAT ....... WORKS GREAT. ONE HANDED OPEANING/CLOSING BETTER LUCK WITH THE NEXT PROJET👍
I could not agree more, DO NOT BUY THIS CARRIER!!!. I wish mine was only that far off. I had to bend the latched apart they were so far off. Once that was done I was going to dry fit the plate and realized the carrier was off enough that I would have to cut a chunk out of my light or the carrier would hit it. It was so bad that the company refunded me the money and told me they dont even want it back, told me to recycle it.
Oh wow! Sorry you went through that
Holley smokes, you put de big dents in the body by improperly beating it with a hammer and screwdriver. You installed the entire carrier wrong and blame the product. You didn't line the carrier up to start with and threw everything else off.
Lol. No. Just no.
Nope,Nope,and Nope if it was me it would have been on a ups truck back to the company.Love the look but its garbage.The kind of money you pay for it it should be close to plug and play as possible.There should be absolutely no alignment issues or fitment issues.The door hinges should come complete with the kit you shouldn’t have to grind,pound and struggle to use your hinge.Waste of money in my opinion with issues like that.I love building on to my jeep but come on thats rediclous.
Thank you for the comment! I totally agree! Unfortunately it looks like we weren't the only ones, many others have expressed similar results on the forums. Hopefully this video shed some light. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Moim zdaniem jest to takie że brak doświadczenia z montażem , DV8 jest OK '
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did I just see this guy using a wood file on metal...why!!!
A file is a file and a wood file works on metal too, although not with the same efficiency. :)
@@Garagecouple No actually one is hardened specifically for scratching metal and the other has large teeth for scraping away wood big difference in hardness.
@@Aestheticnerdlife I totally agree. But when you're trying to get a job done it works. Lol
I personally don't buy anything from DV8.. bad company crapy parts and no help from them parts missing and on and on
That has been our experience too unfortunately!
So I want to preface the following statement by saying I wouldn’t install a DV8 product on my Jeep for no reason. I have always thought of their product as cheap imported crap. I have yet to be proven wrong. But.... that being said I have to say that you guys did not help yourselves at all attempting this install. It was well above your mechanical abilities and if you had this installed by a competent installer a lot of these issues would have been handled easily and you would have been far happier with the outcome.
By the way... the info DV8 provided you saying you only need 2 bolts is a giant load of dog crap! And all the washers you have behind the lock plate is eventually going to stress the thin body sheet metal and pull through. You should have a fab shop or someone take a look and clean up your mistakes before you are really screwed. And one last thing... if you file off a little powdercoating, just paint the surface! No one said you had to leave it bare.
Thanks for your comment! I disagree that it is above us mechanically. The parts wouldn't even work with one another *off the vehicle* getting everything to line up while *on the vehicle* proved to be impossible. We intentionally made this video installing the carrier to show others who are not experts that it could be done. We know lousy products when we see them and this one was no exception. With missing parts in the bag, missing backing plate, having to get a second bracket sent to us which was still warped during welding.. (by the way, when we called the person on the phone said it's not uncommon the brackets warp due to welding..)
In any case, yes, I am going to make my own bracket because currently we barely use the trunk. It has become so incredibly intolerable to open and close it. We are also considering reverting to a tire carrier bumper. Anyways, we don't recommend this product. There are better versions out there.
Garage Couple well good luck with that! It is awesome you two are doing this together. The only interest my wife has in working on either of our Jeeps is detailing it. Any mods are my job to install.
Thanks for the support!
I don’t see how DV8 is still in business, everything they make is absolute crap.
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My experience with dv8 there stuff is shit
Agree, DV8 is crap
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Looks like an awful design!
Agreed. Having 2 points line up on two pieces makes no sense..