Ali Farag's Uncanny Outburst in the 2024 PSA Paris Squash Open vs Mostafa Asal

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024

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  • @Nomad_Engineer
    @Nomad_Engineer День назад +8

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. A refreshing different perspective next to PSA which is 99% of my squash vid consumption

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +2

      Much appreciated. He has come a long way, and appears to be making conscious changes. I hope that we can positively encourage his efforts instead of trying to bring him down. Wishing you the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @captainzork6109
    @captainzork6109 День назад +4

    Three things which are interesting to me:
    1) Farag never seems to have an outburst like that with anyone else
    2) When it comes to taking too much space, you can certainly distinguish more frequent offenders from the less frequent ones. Some get more comments from the referee than others. So, not everyone does it. But, yes, it is a relatively regular thing in pro squash at the moment
    3) Interestingly, Asal never seems to have complained about other people's movement
    Ideally, everyone should strive to give space like Ashour does it

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад

      I appreciate the points you have shared. You're correct. I too hope that all players play the way Ramy did. It would be a joy to watch! Wishing you the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @delsol1967
    @delsol1967 День назад +11

    You seem to have missed Asal‘s grabbing recent matches. He’s not totally clean yet.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +2

      I agree that he isn't totally clean like a Ramy (for example), but I do feel that he has improved significantly. As I mentioned in the video, deeply ingrained motor patterns take a long time to change. Furthermore, although I don't support the dodgy movements any of the pros make, I think that he is very much in line with their movements. I do however hope that he continues along his improvement journey and becomes extremely clean. His talent and abilities certainly allow him to do so in my opinion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏🏼 all the best,
      - Ahad

    • @chriscampbell1645
      @chriscampbell1645 День назад +7

      The grabbing is the thing the really bothers me the most. More than the movement stuff. Bad movement can be classified under the category of bad technique and I agree it is difficult to build new muscle memory to replace old. But the grabbing is not a bad technique, it's just plain cheating, and makes me question his character. It's not a "technique" that should ever have been taught, learned or encouraged. It's the dirtiest thing I've ever seen on a squash court. Especially at a pro level.

  • @johnemarsh1
    @johnemarsh1 День назад +7

    Great video and I love your respectful comments. But take a look at that final point in slow mo - you can see after Asal’s final shot he very subtly flicks one foot then the other at Farag’s ankles and catches him. It’s not a big kick, just a very subtle but deliberate niggle. So hard to spot without slo mo. And this reveals Asal’s character - not accidental traffic issues but systematic and ongoing cheating.

    • @tenaciousb11
      @tenaciousb11 7 часов назад +1

      Are you on of the extreme anti-Asal people Ahad is talking about? Watch that slo-mo again. Asal is merely drawing his right foot in as he moves back towards the T in a very ordinary manner. The "flick" of his foot you see is his foot jerking back as Farag's foot collides with it. Farag's foot hit Asal's foot, not the other way round.

    • @larsmartens5258
      @larsmartens5258 5 часов назад

      You don't know the rules of squash. It's Farag's turn to play the ball and he has the right to go to the ball without Ass-al getting in his way and making contact. You are blaming Farag for the contact while Ass-al is the one who has to give space since it's his opponent's turn to play. Learn the rules before opening your mouth.

  • @trinerd
    @trinerd День назад +7

    Don't disagree with your assessment. However, Asal cheats a lot and I am certain this is what pissed Farag off. Its subtle, but its there.. constantly blocking path and using this to destabilize his opponent. Diego smoked him yesterday, and I think what Diego did right is he held his ground, anticipatrd the contact and just bulldozed him s bit. Diego is a big guy too, not sure Farag could get away with those tactics.

    • @kiwikiwi223
      @kiwikiwi223 21 час назад

      Diego blocks ali worse than asal 😂

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  18 часов назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I just watched the final from Qatar and there really were a lot of decisions. In my humble opinion, Diego was taking his space (mostly without malicious intent), and Asal was exerting tremendous effort to show the referee that he can reach the ball, leading to a lot of physicality. I plan on creating a video highlighting parts of this match. Stay tuned!! I hope that you enjoy some of the other videos in the meantime. All the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

    • @kiwikiwi223
      @kiwikiwi223 18 часов назад

      @@ARProformance good work mate

  • @Feline-philosopher
    @Feline-philosopher День назад +7

    I noticed a smirk on asal's face as faraq uncharacteristically stormed off the court. His approach to the sport brings out the worst in his opponents and the viewers. We can debate technicalities back and forth, i know that i intensely dislike his poor sportsmanship. I mean for what reason would faraq storm of the court if he felt it had been a fair match? I believe that he felt angry that his gestures of good will earlier in the match had not been respected or reciprocated by asal.

    • @ReallyGhey
      @ReallyGhey 22 часа назад +3

      You make a great point here I think. Asal just seems like a bully to me

    • @lucettetam8552
      @lucettetam8552 9 часов назад +2

      @@Feline-philosopher totally agreed with you .

    • @lucettetam8552
      @lucettetam8552 9 часов назад +2

      @@ReallyGhey he is more than a bully, he is bad for squash, putting many people off the sport, no sportsmanship .

    • @Feline-philosopher
      @Feline-philosopher 44 минуты назад +1

      @@ReallyGhey And so the question is, why does the PSA stand by and cheer a bullying player? contrast asal with gaultier, who would virtually not let a player leave the court on bad terms, and who would really do everything to show that he appreaciated the contest. Yes, compare Gaultier with this guy who screams and raves after the winning point, and who seems more interested in how his image comes across on the camera. This is a serious fall in standards, its tasteless and disrespectfull towards his opponents and viewer alike.

    • @ReallyGhey
      @ReallyGhey 4 минуты назад

      @@Feline-philosopher I too am asking myself this question and agree with everything you wrote here. It's unfair to the other players and totally lacks class.

  • @lucettetam8552
    @lucettetam8552 11 часов назад +3

    Easier to say than done , Asal put a lot of people off squash , and he gets away with it by some incompetent referee ! He should be banned to play .

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes1510 День назад +2

    Cheers Ahad, the improvement in Asal's temperament and movement is great for the game and traffic problems still do occur, by far much better after the Willstrop mentoring.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  18 часов назад

      Thanks for the continued support Steve. Wishing you the very best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @jj9749
    @jj9749 9 часов назад +2

    I stopped watching squash about a year ago because of Asal but good to see nothing has changed

    • @tenaciousb11
      @tenaciousb11 7 часов назад

      Listen to Ahad, open your mind a bit and allow for a fresh perspective. Asal is obviously playing much cleaner than he used to, to anyone who is willing to see it. You've been missing out on some spectacular squash.

  • @honesty8310
    @honesty8310 День назад +5

    overall, I agree with your view of taking a balanced approach, and not to take extreme preconcieved views. However, why is there this necessity, to 'celebrate' Asal's slightly improved blocking? You have to admit, he is still an extremely far cry from being a clean player like Ramy for example.
    So from that logic, if someone was a murderer before, and is now 'only' assaulting people, we should be appreciative?

    • @tempostudent
      @tempostudent День назад +1

      Not a bad video. I agree with the sentiment at the end and believe it was well thought out. However, I would love to see an actual analysis utilizing the WSF rulebook language. I believe the root cause of a lot of PSAs current issues stem from there

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад

      I appreciate your kind words, and I do agree that there is some lack of clarity re rules, and the consistent application of the rules. Hopefully everyone gets onto the same page soon. That being said, in the moment, from so far away, it is extremely difficult to see everything (for referees). Furthermore, at times, player movements occur inadvertently if they're slightly off balance etc. I'm speaking from personal experience playing at a decent level (although obviously not nearly as good as the players in question of course!). Wishing you the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your opinion. I do agree that he still has moments, but honestly, for the most part, it's very similar to other top pros. That being said, I think that all pros need to manage their movement better during key moments.
      I also appreciate your analogy. Of course a murderer still assaulting folks is a very severe matter. In this situation, other players make the same "infractions" as Asal, and I feel that due to his history, there is greater sensitivity to his actions. Regarding sharing positive sentiment, he seems like the kind of guy that wants to please the crowd and fans. It is in this spirit that I'm suggesting positive reinforcement, in the hope that it continues to drive his improvement.
      Wishing you the very best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

    • @honesty8310
      @honesty8310 23 часа назад +1

      ​@@ARProformance thank you for taking the time out to reply. I completely understand where you are coming from, and want to encourage Asal. However, I think that since you seem to be such a nice person yourself, you are seeing Asal from the same prespective.
      I strongly believe whatever little improvement seen in Asal's movement, is strictly due to the fact he was banned for several months, and not because he is somehow suddenly aware of what the public wants. And in my opinion, there is no room for Asal, or anyone else who blocks, and interefers with their opponents movement, as this can cause serious injuries. There should be extremely strict penalties for intentional movement like his.
      Wish you all the best as well

  • @stwang38
    @stwang38 День назад +3

    Great video. I agree that it's easy to judge given the polar opposite perceptions of both players. On a different note, Ahad, would you consider doing more of this type of post-match analysis? Such analyses are common for other sports like boxing, MMA, etc., but almost non-existent in squash.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +1

      Thank you 🙏🏼 yes, I am happy to conduct occasional post match analyses. Truthfully, creating videos like this one takes a lot of time, and I'm really short on time at the moment. Out of curiosity, how would you (and others) feel if I created a membership section on my channel and create similar (and other) detailed videos and analyses? Curious to hear your (and others) thoughts 🙏🏼 all the best,
      - Ahad

    • @stwang38
      @stwang38 День назад

      @@ARProformance Sign me up! You have provided some of the best squash content on RUclips, and post-match analyses are sorely needed.

    • @fm1326
      @fm1326 16 часов назад

      Great idea

  • @wybren18
    @wybren18 День назад +3

    He does seem to have more traffic issues then others on the tour tho, but I guess its because he’s a big guy ? I’m always in the camp like why does he block sometimes because he’s so good already. But James did a good job so far. Thanks for your view 👌🏻

    • @James-sw9vm
      @James-sw9vm День назад +7

      Omar Mosaad, Dec James and Curtis Malik are way bigger than Asal and have zero issues?

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад

      I hear you when you ask why he blocks when he's so good already. It's a great question - likely stems from early coaching, being taught that it's okay to do anything and everything to win when he was younger with an impressionable mind. Other players take advantage of loose shots and hold their ground as well. All of that being said, as you've noted, he has come a long way. let's hope he keeps trending in this direction! Wishing you the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @morselligianniluigi8375
    @morselligianniluigi8375 16 часов назад +1

    It's true that Asal has improved a lot in terms of giving space. However, in this particular match, to me it seems that as he too started to get fatigued, and started to use these subtle blocking techniques. Ali had a few complaints before that last one, and knowing him, I'm sure it was totally warranted. Ali is not a bad loser, and that last outburst is understandable.

  • @James-sw9vm
    @James-sw9vm День назад +22

    I just fundamentally disagree with you completely about his movement. Everything you said comes down to either 1) oh but other pros do it too! or; 2) he's not as bad as he used to be. or; 3) Asal's excessively wide base and trailing leg trips are because he's a 'big guy'. Farag's frustration was because on the Asal forehand, Asal was always move up to the T from mid-back service box instead of moving laterally to allow Farag to curve in front, meaning Farag must repeatedly move directly sideways, then backwards. Meaning he must lose his momentum to move perpendicular around Asal instead of smoothly curving to the back.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +7

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I hear you about the ongoing frustration with Asal's movement. I genuinely believe that he has improved a lot over the last couple of years.
      The mid court is a tricky area re movement if sorry and/or loose balls are hit. All players take their space in the mid court if their opponents hit something that leaves them in a compromised position. That being said, I wish none of them did that, but it is a strategic advantage for them, so I understand the decision to do so - to each their own in this regard.
      Another factor to consider in Asal's case is that he genuinely is extremely powerful (natural skills and tons of training I'm sure). Given every professional player's desire to hold the 'T', and his extremely plyometric movement ability, he recovers extremely dynamically, in a manner others aren't able to do.
      At the end of the day, I agree that he still makes some dodgy movements, but not more so than other top pros. Do I agree with that? No. I'd love to see all of the professionals completely avoid traffic issues, but sometimes that just isn't possible, and at other times, it's done strategically.
      I appreciate your perspective, and respectful discussion 🙏🏼 wishing you the best,
      - Ahad

    • @CheapHomeTech
      @CheapHomeTech День назад +3

      You summarized it up nicely. Unfortunately most people can't see through Asal. Even the judges. The sport is going to hell because of it. Maybe we need games like pickle ball where thugs can't win by physically interfering with their bodies.

    • @M0odez
      @M0odez День назад +1

      @@ARProformance Glad you mentioned his strength and recovery abilities and I'd further say that it contributes to him hitting a lot of straight kills that players are having to move quickly round him to retrieve, when normally the shot would not be an option.

    • @James-sw9vm
      @James-sw9vm День назад +1

      @@ARProformance I forgot to mention that this is a great video btw. I'm glad you interpreted the spirit of my comment as intended nonetheless. Thank you.

    • @captainzork6109
      @captainzork6109 День назад +1

      Then everyone should be like Ashour

  • @alishahid9253
    @alishahid9253 21 час назад +1

    Great point. Issue is with the nature of the sport. They all do it, why? Because it gives you an advantage. All else equal, the player who is better at blocking just enough to not make it suspicious while hindering the other player enough will prevail. Asal master at that, in fact improving 😅. Not everyone is shabana, ashour or gawad. Also the reason this sport will always be a small niche.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  18 часов назад

      I hope that the players take inspiration from Shabana, Ashour, Gawad and the like! The refereeing is also causing some issues at the moment in my opinion. I feel that they've become too severe, leading to a lot of traffic issues. More on that in a future video though! Wishing you the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @CheapHomeTech
    @CheapHomeTech День назад +6

    Yeah yeah, let's forgive Asal because he can't stop unfairly blocking out his opponents. It just comes natural to him and we should not be upset.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. In the video I noted that changing deeply ingrained motor patterns takes a lot of time and effort. When I think about myself and trying to change a habit, or when I think about folks that have addictions (ie. Ingrained motor patterns, stimulus response cues, dopamine hits etc), it is extremely difficult to change the habits. Asal's movement history is very similar because he was rewarded positively for it growing up (ie. Winning), and the habit was positively reinforced (repetitive motor patterns). I do believe that his movements have improved significantly (as I showed in the video). He certainly isn't perfect, but then again, no one is. My humble opinion is that we should encourage the positive growth and support the change, as hopefully he will continue to improve and win over everyone. Wishing you the very best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

    • @CheapHomeTech
      @CheapHomeTech День назад +2

      @@ARProformance You replayed one point over and over above. The last point of the match. About 5:20 in you can see it. Slow down to 1/4 speed and pause several time.
      1. Farag could probably feel the wind coming off the racket head of Asal's swing. It doesn't look like the racket came close to farag at first. Replay a few times and you'll begin to see a whipping motion that does come close.
      2. Asal does not have the T at this point but he immediately moves a foot towards the T blocking. Farag is already stunned by almost getting hit with the racket and now he has been cut off. Then Asal puts in another foot and prepares for collision. Either Farag knocks the thug onto his ass hopefully using the end of the handle in Asals nether regions or he loses the point.
      Farag lost the point and is outraged. Judge doesn't see what happened. You don't see what happened. But many of us do and it is disgusting. The whole match was like this.

    • @lucettetam8552
      @lucettetam8552 9 часов назад +2

      @@CheapHomeTech yes, the referee did nothing to stop Asal ! I have been watching squash for over 20 years , in the old days , people are playing so clean and moved away so well before the Egyptian came into the scene !!!!!!!

    • @CheapHomeTech
      @CheapHomeTech 8 часов назад +1

      @@lucettetam8552 Interesting. I came across an Egyptian doing that sort of nonsense in the early 90s. He was unbeatable at first. Later he became a good friend. He is one of the reasons I'm so sensitive and recognize this play. (Which happens so much now days with so many players and such horrible judges.)

  • @kiwikiwi223
    @kiwikiwi223 20 часов назад

    Good take on what happened. Its not an Asal movement its one alot of the players do all the time. For me Diego does it the most. Blocks so many shots with his hip bumps

  • @dalstonjazz
    @dalstonjazz День назад +1

    Asal has grown up and now has a great coach. But Farag who I thought was mostly unbeatable has just been destroyed by Elias in Qatar who then played excellent percentage squash to beat Asal in three tie breaks. Pleased for Elias who I think has worked out he needs to take the others out in 3 or 4 not 5.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  18 часов назад +1

      Good to hear from you again. Thanks for your continued support. I have yet to watch Diego and Ali play, although the score line was quite one-sided. I did just watch the final between Diego and Mostafa, and it was an epic match. Some traffic issues as usual, but not much malicious intent in my opinion. I do plan on creating a video on this soon! All the best 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

  • @bobgarbett3229
    @bobgarbett3229 16 часов назад +1

    Yes! I also found Farag’s response baffling, to say the least. I / we can’t be entirely sure as to the reason or reasons. Having said that, it did appear to be about proper ball accessibility it did seem he was restricted in some way! But even that is not blatantly obvious. This is only my take here, so forgive me, having watched squash for many years ( and decades) I have observed that some of the Egyptian players have a certain temperamental irrationality and of course this is absolutely not true of all but more than a few. A kind of quirkiness.

    • @lucettetam8552
      @lucettetam8552 9 часов назад

      @@bobgarbett3229 that’s how Egyptian taking over the top spots since they started come into the scene these last probably 10 years , by the way they played, they don ‘t play , they killed , no sportsmanship .

    • @lazylama6
      @lazylama6 7 часов назад +1

      If you think Farag's response is baffling, slow it down and look again, but this time pay attention to Asal's feet (yes both of them) when he moves back to the T. Notice how first his left foot and then his right foot kick against Farag's right foot. That's why Farag was so upset, he got kicked twice when it was his time to play the ball.

  • @syedqaisarabbas6959
    @syedqaisarabbas6959 Час назад

    PSA has given a free hand to refree
    That's not fair🎉

  • @lazylama6
    @lazylama6 7 часов назад

    When it comes to this clip you completely missed why Farag got so upset. LOOK AT THE FEET! When Asal moves back to the T, first his left foot and then his right foot make contact with Farag's right foot. Slow it down, it's easy to see then. Farag's foot completely buckles when Asal's left foot makes contact, the second contact is less serious but still easy to spot.
    Getting kicked twice when it's your turn to play the ball deserves at least a let, no? What do you think? And knowing Asal doesn't mind provocing contact, maybe even a stroke.
    You are making the same mistake that all the others are making who claim that "Asal is now playing clean". In real time this situation looks like an obvious "no let". But then you slow it down and you see that Asal kicks Farag's foot twice when he tries to go for the ball. Asal isn't clean at all, he is just being more subtle about it.
    You would also ask for a let when you get kicked twice while trying to play, and you would be just as frustrated as Farag when you would get a "no let" because the referee failed to see that your opponent makes contacts when you are trying to play the ball. Open your eyes. Asal must have felt that contact as well, he still raises his arms in the air as if nothing was wrong during that rally and he won that point fair and square. He is a discusting example of bad sportmanship and should have been expelled from our sport years ago.

  • @danrae-i6e
    @danrae-i6e 13 часов назад +1

    Bs commentary.

  • @StracheyAnnabelle-w8c
    @StracheyAnnabelle-w8c 23 часа назад

    Robinson Margaret Moore Jeffrey Jackson Barbara

  • @fm1326
    @fm1326 16 часов назад

    Your analysis regarding asal's movement is quite appropriate. Asal is a big guy coupled with the fact that he plays at an extremely high pace not letting his opponent settle back to the T. And when he goes his next shot it's like a bullet. That is why most of the time the other players find themselves in an uncomfortable position to retrieve the shot or drop and having to run through him makes it all the more considerably inconvenient. That's the reason his movements seem incredibly dodgy though they are extremely precise

  • @LukeAllen-sb4mx
    @LukeAllen-sb4mx День назад +2

    Willstrop is doing a great job for Asal. Faraq is a brilliant sportsman. A forgivable weak moment for Ali.

    • @ARProformance
      @ARProformance  День назад

      Agreed. Everyone has a moment of weakness. Farag is a legend. Asal is also improving significantly! Appreciate your comment 🙏🏼
      - Ahad

    • @lazylama6
      @lazylama6 7 часов назад

      Nonsense, slow the video down and look again, but this time look at Asal's feet when he moves back to the T. Both his left foot and his right foot make contact with Farag's right foot, completely putting off Farag. Not a weak moment for Ali, his frustration is very understandable, he got kicked twice trying to play the ball and Asal did it so subtle that we need to slow down the video to even be able to notice it.