I thought noone under the age of 30 would survive a video this long without some memes in between, so there you go… Also, Nick Batt is the man. Get you AUDIOFUSE HERE: tinyurl.com/WUFUSE
My pleasure! I remember your RME video, how come you are upgrading the setup? Let me know if you have any specific questions I forgot to answer in the video. edit: beware of the weird implementation of the LOOPBACK feature, I know you are also using this…
Thank you for explaining it to me like a 5yr old. 4min in and I am already sold...I have been on the edge since release and I feel ready to replace my Minifuse 2 with the 16Rig.
There is a similar product for those who can't afford the Arturia from ESI for about $540 which is about $800 less called the ESI U168 XT the big difference is the ESI has 4 mic pre amps 16 line inputs 10 line outputs midi and spdif (no Adat). But If you can afford the Arturia its a great device for sure, but if you are on a super tight budget because of inflation or like most musicians you are just. broke the ESI is an option.
@@SONWU Great review by the way the Arturia is nice, I had a friend buy the ESI and he was happy with it but he originally wanted the Arturia but he only had $600 to spend. The ESI doesn't have all the nice software features and driver support but it has similar i/o. Cheers!!!
Hi SON WU, I know who you are! So yeah, in my home studio I have an M-Audio 192-8 to input sounds into my computer. But I also have a ZAOR desk with a shelf for rack mount gear... and the right side is actually empty... my left side is my power supply (PYLE PS 1000)....so I will listen to this carefully and make an informed decision... nice video thanks
@@annebokma4637 Yeah, I had the 1820 which I think has MIDAS preamps. And wasn't bad. But I would say ARTURIA is a level above in audio & built, which it should be, as the price is higher. But as we all know, you can make good recordings on anything. It's the song that counts, not the gear :)
@@SONWU true that... And any interface can be turned into Dante this way. Ideal if you have a second space to record in. But not the interest to go Yamaha dm3
If you need more inputs, Arturia 16rig. If you are deeply invested into the internal routing matrix, for example for streaming I'd go with MOTU. (I prefer the software) Both will be great, but I just gel better with the MOTU software.
@@SONWU Thank you. If you were to choose based on sound quality alone? Also, it's not clear how the audio interface will work in 5-7 years. I mean Arturia.
@@nickosparkol No worries! I can't really speak to the sound quality too much, as I don't have the newest range of MOTU…but I think these days there won't be much perceivable difference.
@@nickosparkol PS: If you buy any of these interfaces (or any other gear) and you would like to help me out, please consider my affiliate links: Perfect Circuit US: tinyurl.com/sonwu-perfectcircuit Thomann EU: tinyurl.com/sonwu-thomann NO EXTRA COST TO YOU!
@@SONWU I'm from Russia, so they don't sell these shops to my country because of sanctions. Now such goods go through China, the Emirates, etc., as there are no official dealers in Russia, they have left. Arturia, by the way, has not left Russia, it continues to co-operate, but Motu has left Russia, so everything is more complicated. I had a Motu 828 mk3 Hybrid for almost 13 years, now it is in repair, but for the second time and I think it is finally broken. So, I am more inclined to Motu, but Arturia did not make sound cards, so there are doubts. I understand you have a small Motu, do you like its sound better?
@@notsure1135 ruclips.net/video/AUfoIy-KU28/видео.html the 27.8 msec was at 512 samples Buffer size, which I should have mentioned. It performed as well as the UAD.
I have one and I loved it until I upgraded the firmware when asked by the Audiofuse Control Center. After the upgrade, the unit worked just fine but a few weeks, the usb stopped working. Windows 11 24H2 does not see it anymore although it works fine as a standalone audio unit. Verry dissapointing when the power of this interface is its routing flexibility which, without the software, it is next to impossible to configure it. Not to mention the fact that I lost my DAW's main audio/midi interface! Waiting for Arturia to respond in a case I have opened...
I personally haven't tested it (but had the Ultralite mk4). It looks like a great alternative if you are okay with less line inputs. (you also gain some things like DSP processing)
I have Arturia Audio Fuse Studio. Can I connect two interfaces by adding the Arturia 16Rig interface to my Mac? whether all inputs and outputs in both interfaces will be visible in Audio Fuse Control Center and Ableton. Will it be Plug&Play or do I need to install any additional drivers?
I can't really speak on the specifics as I haven't tried it. But from what I understand: You could theoretically use them together. In which case I would send the ADAT outs from the STUDIO into the 16RIG, and let the 16rig be the device that is connected to the Mac, in this case the 16rig will be your interface, while the STUDIO functions as an ADAT expander. You CAN'T run both interfaces at the same time PLUG & PLAY, for those use cases you would have to set up what's called an aggregate device…and even then, I don't know how this would work with the Control Center. Hope. this helps!
This seems like a really good rackable interface but i do not understand why this doesnt have individual dials for each inputs volume, like how Focusrite does on their 18i20
Man I've been thinking its time to move away from UAD apollos but I'm so locked into the plugins I spent money on 🤦🏽♂ (ps the dopamine now clip cracked me up)
HUB input just add more USB connections to your computer. USB midi connections let you use MIDI gear that doesn’t have 5pin and use it to control the AUDIOFUSE etc.
good video and while a lot of the video clips are funny they are also excessive. my advice is cut the movie clips down by 75% and keep the most funny ones.
I’m not professional, but word clock comes into play when you have more than one pre-amp connected to adat and one of them can’t be slave. With word clock you can tackle this problem. I bought the EVO 16 instead. It’s a lot cheaper, who needs additional usb or midi? Not me.
Thanks for helping out! Sure, the EVO is a good budget option. I have a question about that one though…in videos it always looks like the EVO interfaces have a rubberized coating, is that the case? If so, that disqualifies them for me.
@@SONWU i can assure you, there is no rubber involved 😃. The evo is a big, big surprise for me. It’s sooo much better than my previous motu 828es. So currently i have the evo 16, sp8 and Octopre. I am very happy with this setup.
If it had Dante or AVB I would switch over from MOTU now, but nope. I have 3 interfaces, all expanded with ADAT, connected via AVB and without that connectivity, my studio is crippled. If there was AVB on it I could just drop 3 of these in and be happy and a little lamb.
@@SONWU I have no issues with the MOTU AVB stuff aside from they are about 8 years old or so and unless MOTU come out with a new line soon, may be getting close to end of life. New gen converters are a little better. They still work great, just looking forward. They have been absolutely rock solid.
@@SONWU at least this I wanted to leave here. I have no right for any claims but my reason to watch gear videos and other videos. So there are some channels where someone has to watch 15 minutes of storytelling and sponsorship until it gets to 1 minutes of information or the real entertainment. So if I feel a similar pattern evolving I quickly quit. I have no problems watching longer videos. I know that that it's some work to make a video but there are also reasons to look at it and have fun and taste and expectations differ.
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I thought noone under the age of 30 would survive a video this long without some memes in between, so there you go…
Also, Nick Batt is the man.
Get you AUDIOFUSE HERE: tinyurl.com/WUFUSE
Very much enjoyed the sprinkled in memes 😁 Especially the one from Flight of the Conchords 🤩
Talk about perfect timing! Been really looking at this thing.
Thanks for taking the time to make this Son Wu!
My pleasure!
I remember your RME video, how come you are upgrading the setup?
Let me know if you have any specific questions I forgot to answer in the video.
edit: beware of the weird implementation of the LOOPBACK feature, I know you are also using this…
The film inserts are so funny x) great review
Thank you!
Best explanation of this device I've seen so far 👍
Thanks, pleased to hear that!
Great review!!! BTW, you're pronouncing "routing" correctly at 19:20 🙂.
Thanks! 🙏
Thank you for explaining it to me like a 5yr old. 4min in and I am already sold...I have been on the edge since release and I feel ready to replace my Minifuse 2 with the 16Rig.
:D I am glad my approach worked for you. This is quite the step up from a Minifuse 2!
@@SONWU Exactly.
Great video thanks
My pleasure!
Too many movie clips kinda taking away from this great video
Agreed. It was painful to get through. We are doomed if we can't focus on something for more than 1 minute without a distraction.
@@WildAnalog right he really doesn't have to try that hard the video was well put together
Thanks, I appreciate the honest feedback and will consider it for future videos 🙏
I agree it's way too much and doesn't bring anything cool.
Love this thing but can’t understand they don’t allow for more than 2 stereo sends!
Thanks for confirming that I'm not the only one who cares about this :) yes it would be nice!
Your memes are grt!!!!
🙏 thanks
Really excited for you thoughts on this one, been in two minds about it for a while.
Let me know if there are any questions I didn't answer in the video!
love this
I have one of these. Faultless and amazing sound
I absolutely agree!
Thanks for the info! Great video🙌
Thank you!
There is a similar product for those who can't afford the Arturia from ESI for about $540 which is about $800 less called the ESI U168 XT the big difference is the ESI has 4 mic pre amps 16 line inputs 10 line outputs midi and spdif (no Adat). But If you can afford the Arturia its a great device for sure, but if you are on a super tight budget because of inflation or like most musicians you are just. broke the ESI is an option.
Behringer X18 is a good alternative too.
Thanks for chiming in, budget options are always appreciated!
@@SONWU Great review by the way the Arturia is nice, I had a friend buy the ESI and he was happy with it but he originally wanted the Arturia but he only had $600 to spend. The ESI doesn't have all the nice software features and driver support but it has similar i/o. Cheers!!!
Hey, great video! If I switch to ch 33-34 in the midi setup, I won't be able to hear anything from my speakers. How can I solve that?
Sorry, don’t know…🤷♂️
Hi SON WU, I know who you are! So yeah, in my home studio I have an M-Audio 192-8 to input sounds into my computer. But I also have a ZAOR desk with a shelf for rack mount gear... and the right side is actually empty... my left side is my power supply (PYLE PS 1000)....so I will listen to this carefully and make an informed decision... nice video thanks
just leaving a comment for the time you put in to share your thoughts. Hopefully this can help someone who this will be for.
Thanks, it's much appreciated!
fair enough
hey, nice to see you here…love your channel!
I got the tascam model 24 mixer interface combo. I was really liking it until I heard a 2400 model is coming.
I bought a behringer x18, hooked it up to a n100 mini pc (32gb/1tbssd) and run dante via on that. Total cost 850$ for a lot of network audio. 😂
I had a Behringer interface in the past. And while it's certainly serviceable, I think the audio quality on the Arturia is much better.
@@SONWU did your behringer have the Midas designed preamps? That makes all the difference.
@@annebokma4637 Yeah, I had the 1820 which I think has MIDAS preamps. And wasn't bad. But I would say ARTURIA is a level above in audio & built, which it should be, as the price is higher.
But as we all know, you can make good recordings on anything. It's the song that counts, not the gear :)
@@SONWU true that... And any interface can be turned into Dante this way. Ideal if you have a second space to record in. But not the interest to go Yamaha dm3
Thank you for the review.
Arturia AudioFuse 16Rig or Motu 828 (2024)?
If you need more inputs, Arturia 16rig.
If you are deeply invested into the internal routing matrix, for example for streaming I'd go with MOTU. (I prefer the software)
Both will be great, but I just gel better with the MOTU software.
@@SONWU Thank you. If you were to choose based on sound quality alone?
Also, it's not clear how the audio interface will work in 5-7 years. I mean Arturia.
@@nickosparkol No worries! I can't really speak to the sound quality too much, as I don't have the newest range of MOTU…but I think these days there won't be much perceivable difference.
@@nickosparkol PS: If you buy any of these interfaces (or any other gear) and you would like to help me out, please consider my affiliate links:
Perfect Circuit US: tinyurl.com/sonwu-perfectcircuit
Thomann EU: tinyurl.com/sonwu-thomann
NO EXTRA COST TO YOU!
@@SONWU I'm from Russia, so they don't sell these shops to my country because of sanctions. Now such goods go through China, the Emirates, etc., as there are no official dealers in Russia, they have left.
Arturia, by the way, has not left Russia, it continues to co-operate, but Motu has left Russia, so everything is more complicated.
I had a Motu 828 mk3 Hybrid for almost 13 years, now it is in repair, but for the second time and I think it is finally broken. So, I am more inclined to Motu, but Arturia did not make sound cards, so there are doubts.
I understand you have a small Motu, do you like its sound better?
How does it perform in regards to round trip latency?
27.8 msec, great according to Starsky Carr's video. I didn't test it myself though.
@@SONWU27.8msec round trip seems a pinch high
@@notsure1135 ruclips.net/video/AUfoIy-KU28/видео.html
the 27.8 msec was at 512 samples Buffer size, which I should have mentioned.
It performed as well as the UAD.
I have one and I loved it until I upgraded the firmware when asked by the Audiofuse Control Center. After the upgrade, the unit worked just fine but a few weeks, the usb stopped working. Windows 11 24H2 does not see it anymore although it works fine as a standalone audio unit.
Verry dissapointing when the power of this interface is its routing flexibility which, without the software, it is next to impossible to configure it. Not to mention the fact that I lost my DAW's main audio/midi interface!
Waiting for Arturia to respond in a case I have opened...
Sorry to hear that…good luck with customer service, hope you get it sorted!
Amazing vid, thanks!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Unfortunately there is no SPDIF out, to drive my speakers over AES, only ADAT. That's the only downside for me.
What do you think about the motu 828 ? ( 2024 )
I personally haven't tested it (but had the Ultralite mk4). It looks like a great alternative if you are okay with less line inputs. (you also gain some things like DSP processing)
yes but no mic preamps ☹
Really wish I could justify having something like this
I have Arturia Audio Fuse Studio. Can I connect two interfaces by adding the Arturia 16Rig interface to my Mac? whether all inputs and outputs in both interfaces will be visible in Audio Fuse Control Center and Ableton. Will it be Plug&Play or do I need to install any additional drivers?
I can't really speak on the specifics as I haven't tried it.
But from what I understand: You could theoretically use them together. In which case I would send the ADAT outs from the STUDIO into the 16RIG, and let the 16rig be the device that is connected to the Mac, in this case the 16rig will be your interface, while the STUDIO functions as an ADAT expander.
You CAN'T run both interfaces at the same time PLUG & PLAY, for those use cases you would have to set up what's called an aggregate device…and even then, I don't know how this would work with the Control Center.
Hope. this helps!
If you have a Mac you can combine them thru aggregate device under audio midi setup
This seems like a really good rackable interface but i do not understand why this doesnt have individual dials for each inputs volume, like how Focusrite does on their 18i20
I think 16 pots on the front panel would make it pretty cluttered and tight…for me, I prefer how it is now.
Man I've been thinking its time to move away from UAD apollos but I'm so locked into the plugins I spent money on 🤦🏽♂ (ps the dopamine now clip cracked me up)
Yeah, I can imagine that is a difficult decision. But I believe UAD is a bit behind the competition when it comes to routing, right? 😉
Same, you can prob sell your licenses too.
That's true, didn't think of that!
They’re native now…
I'm not really clear on what the USB Inputs do, is that outboard gear connected via USB hub?
HUB input just add more USB connections to your computer.
USB midi connections let you use MIDI gear that doesn’t have 5pin and use it to control the AUDIOFUSE etc.
Me in ‘96: Im going to be an electronic music prodigy, Mama!
Me in ‘24: DOPAMINE NOW!!
Let's not fool ourselves 😅
Seems expensive. Im sure it’s very capable, but for those on a budget, consider the xr18 (£350 in 2020; probably £450 now)
Sure, on a budget there are other options out there!
good video and while a lot of the video clips are funny they are also excessive. my advice is cut the movie clips down by 75% and keep the most funny ones.
Thanks for the honest feedback, it‘s much appreciated!
I’m not professional, but word clock comes into play when you have more than one pre-amp connected to adat and one of them can’t be slave. With word clock you can tackle this problem. I bought the EVO 16 instead. It’s a lot cheaper, who needs additional usb or midi? Not me.
Thanks for helping out!
Sure, the EVO is a good budget option. I have a question about that one though…in videos it always looks like the EVO interfaces have a rubberized coating, is that the case? If so, that disqualifies them for me.
@@SONWU i can assure you, there is no rubber involved 😃. The evo is a big, big surprise for me. It’s sooo much better than my previous motu 828es. So currently i have the evo 16, sp8 and Octopre. I am very happy with this setup.
If it had Dante or AVB I would switch over from MOTU now, but nope. I have 3 interfaces, all expanded with ADAT, connected via AVB and without that connectivity, my studio is crippled. If there was AVB on it I could just drop 3 of these in and be happy and a little lamb.
May I ask why'd you'd switch from MOTU? I'm interested what people see as pros/cons
@@SONWU I have no issues with the MOTU AVB stuff aside from they are about 8 years old or so and unless MOTU come out with a new line soon, may be getting close to end of life. New gen converters are a little better. They still work great, just looking forward. They have been absolutely rock solid.
Sold. Although XLR monitor outs would be preferrable, maybe too big for the unit
wow Ive never seen ADD as mental as yours. Good luck bro.
🙏
The wacky loopback is a deal breaker. What a shame
Yeah, it's my biggest complaint with the device.
I quit as sthe story time began
Good thing you had the time to leave a comment anyway ;)
@@SONWU at least this I wanted to leave here. I have no right for any claims but my reason to watch gear videos and other videos. So there are some channels where someone has to watch 15 minutes of storytelling and sponsorship until it gets to 1 minutes of information or the real entertainment. So if I feel a similar pattern evolving I quickly quit. I have no problems watching longer videos. I know that that it's some work to make a video but there are also reasons to look at it and have fun and taste and expectations differ.
@@Rasenschneidershut up