Who Are The Lun Bawang People? | Long Story Short
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this episode of Long Story Short, we interview two people who are Lun Bawang, a minority tribe in Sarawak, to learn more about their culture.
Did you know that not all tribes in East Malaysia celebrate Hari Gawai? 🤯 The Lun Bawang people have their own harvest festival called Irau Aco.
Tim and Amanda also mention that it’s a common misconception for Malaysians to think Lun Bawangs are Chinese!
“They would immediately speak Mandarin to us and we won't know how to reply” 😅
Watch this video and appreciate the diverse cultures that make up Malaysia. ❤️
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Production Crew:
Producer - Wei-Shen Khor
Videographer - Amirul Ashraf
Audio - Kylie Chia
Editor - Amanda Mutang
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Selamat Hari Gawai to those celebrating! We love our East Malaysian brothers and sisters ❤️
i want rizal kimchi
@@ex_TeamSecret 🤣
@@ex_TeamSecret we need him to see this
Selamat Hari Gawai Semua Untuk Saya Orang Sarawak Dan Orang Sarawak Yang Lain-Lain Juga
I'm A East Malaysia.
We need more videos like this, Malaysians need more exposure on Bornean tribes
When I first met Amanda, I think a bunch of us just started asking her questions about the Lun Bawang people and we were all taken back. There's more to Malaysia than the 3 major races. It's sad that we don't pay enough attention to our brothers and sisters in the East. Take a moment, Google, read up, GO VISIT! There's a lot to explore in East Malaysia. ♥️🇲🇾
HAPPY GAWAI! 🥳
Hahaha I remember! 😂
@@amandamutang9447 hi amanda. Org Bintulu juak 👋👋👋
Hello Amanda & Timothy!
I’m lunbawang myself from Lawas, this is a great video and I really enjoyed it. However there are few correction that I want to address so that my other younger lunbawang friends don’t get it confused next time. First, Banana Leaves are actually alternative leaf to use to wrap the rice. Lunbawang/lundayeh tribe use Daun itip / Daun nyirik to wrap Nuba/Luba Laya and Kelupis/pinupis. Secondly, the size of kelupis/pinupis is only the size of your middle and index finger together. It can’t be the size of your hand because ‘bara laket’ is expensive yall😆 Anyways, Thank you for representing our Tribe❤️ x
Exactly what I was thinking! But good job on the video still x
Hope you guys enjoyed watching the latest episode to my new series "Long Story Short"! I am really excited to do more episodes. What topics should I do next? Any suggestions? 😃
Try finding out how many indigenous groups/tribes there are in Sarawak or Sabah and get representatives (via interviews of the young and old) to just say in their own dialect,
the greeting, "How are you". Squeeze that into a 12 min video. In fact, in Sarawak alone there are more than 30 indigenous groups and Sabah also more or less.
@@mutangpadan5311 agreed
@@mutangpadan5311 Good suggestion sir! Thank you! 🙏
@@mutangpadan5311 Thank you for the suggestion! 🙏
Could you make a "Long Story Short" of the various ethnic groups of Malaysia? Maybe use this language map as a reference: muturzikin.com/cartesasiesudest/4.htm (It's not accurate, but it's something). And also this short list of ethnic groups on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Malaysia#External_links
I think Amanda really made a good point about how our local Sejarah subject doesn’t give the Lun Bawang tribe/community (or any other tribes out there, if there is) enough exposure. I’m 25, been living in Malaysia my whole entire life, and THIS is only my first time hearing about them!
This is such great content!
Thank youuuu! 🥰
Because they always use “Dan Lain-Lain”.. i think in gov or private sectors should put any forms to fill, they should put every single races in malaysia in it. Small things like that can help educate about others’ cultures and races within the country
They say i look like chinese. When i talk in my native language, they say i sounded like speaking tagalog
I feel you bro...
Even a Brunei/Sabah Malay speaking Brunei/Sabah Malay would look Chinese and sound like they are speaking Tagalog to other Malays.
im confuse,is philipines borneo
@@zealoussxx What are you taking about? The Philippines is Japan.
@@MalaysianTropikfusion i-
Im from Sabah and this is my first time heard about Lun Bawangs but i know about the Lundayeh. Good info says. Happy Gawai to those Sarawakian celebrating and Kotobian Tadau Togazo Do Kaamatan to all those Sabahan. Panjang cuti kita urang Sabahan minggu ni lain lagi dengan PKP 🤪 Stay safe semua ❤️
Please have more videos like this. About culture, tribe, special occasions in Malaysia only that showed Malaysia is Truly Asia .. 💯
Thank you for promoting my ppl 🥰
I'm Kenyah from Indonesia, well I'm not Lun Dayeh, but we share a lot of similarities, facing the same thing too 🙃
here in North Kalimantan (Indonesia) Lun Bawang also called as Lun Dayeh but for us Kenyah, we call them "Putuk/Putuq", it's very good for Dayak in Malaysia has more opportunities to be showed on social media or big platforms, here in Indonesia Dayak is not even minority, we're just like dust, not a lot of people aware about our existence!
Btw I love Luba' Laya' (In Kenyah it's called Kanen Lano)
Ps.
yeah, we Kenyah here in Indonesia also face the misconception, one day in a Hospital a Malay woman asked me "are you chinese?", I was like, huh? no... we're the Indigenous people here, it's really sad not a lot of people care about us, we exist guys!
Semangat bro
semoga dengan komen disini makin lebih banyak aware ttg semua suku di Indonesia ya
Di Indonesia lebih familiar dengan "DAYAK". Dayak Iban, Dayak Meratus, Dayak Kenyah dan masih banyak lagi.
@@muhamadhanafi2194 sebenarnya Dayak yang familiar di Indonesia itu rumpun selatan seperti Ngaju, Ot-Danum, Kanaytn.
Tapi anehnya, meskipun yang familiar mereka, Budaya Dayak di Indonesia justru dipikir selalu seperti Dayak yang di Utara, Dayak Murut dan Apau Kayan (Kayan, Kenyah, Lun Dayeh, Okolod, Agabag dll),
sering saya lihat video yang menampilkan gambar-gambar di Kalimantan Tengah atau Barat, atau gambar-gambar suku Dayak di Selatan namun menggunakan alunan musik dan motif dari Kenyah, aneh saja rasanya sebagai orang Kenyah, padahal budayanya sangat berbeda.
Contoh lain seperti Kaharingan, di Indonesia sendiri dipikirnya semua Dayak itu Kaharingan, padahal tidak, Kaharingan itu agama orang Ngaju dan Ot-Danum, saya saja baru tahu ada Agama Kaharingan sesudah menonton video, karena bagi Dayak Utara, Agama asli mereka itu Bulan Malan atau Tepun Malan, dan tentu saja berbeda praktiknya dari Kaharingan
@@saladkentang Terima kasih atas infonya.
I’m proud to be Sarawakian & the fact that we have 27 ethnics with different language, culture & tradition. Each of us must play roles to promote & educate all Malaysian that we have different races but still come together as one in one flag. Moreover, to my Lunbawang friends & families I wish you “Do ngerayeh aco irau lunbawang!” Next, for Says I think you should cover about Bisaya ethnic that populate only in Limbang & Brunei. Love your content though.
I’m a proud Sarawakian ♥️ Listening to u both talking about ur heritage is really inspirational and exciting ♥️
When i was small, i used to live in Kuching. honestly the races that i've met were Bidayuh, Iban & Melanau. but things changed when i moved to Miri. i was surprised literally. I have met with Kayan, Kenyah, Kelabit, Penan, Punan, Bisaya and also Lun Bawang. if i didn't move there, i wouldn't know abt the existence of other races within my own state. how shocking is that there's a lot of races in Sarawak. it's a wonder. i myself discovered that after finished my high school, my grandfather's race is Dalek. i bet most people wouldn't know about this race (including me) because it is minority only live in north Sarawak.
Thank you Says for Making this kinda video and please do more...pls make more videos on more tribes and people of Sarawak and Sabah...This is one thing that we used to learn in school before when we have Kajian Tempatan subject. But no longer available in our syllabus..some people are very ignorant....Good Work Says
Btol..i have lun bawang friends during plkn and my first thought they are chinese...most of them look like chinese...hensem n cantik2 weh lun bawang ni
Yeke
As a kelabit lun bawang, I was once told that I looked like a vietnamese by one of my vietnamese classmate 😂 that's a first HAHAHA usually the first thing they will think is that we're chinese. But some lun bawang ada yang mix chinese la and it depends, if the person that you're talking to says that he/she is not chinese then it's a no la
but you can speak Chinese 😂
@@glenmalvin8488 that's cos I learn it but now very karat dy 😂
@@charlenegeorge2128 I think the two persons in the video have Chinese blood.
There are also Lunbawang people in Brunei :) about 2000 of them
Cantik Amanda hensen Timothy. Ok nak lagi content macam ni. Nak tengok semua kaum yang ada di sabah dan sarawak.🔥
Proud to be a Lun Bawang!! Nice video and thank you for this one.
eh macam kenal
@@amandamutang9447 mesti lah kenaaaal
7:48 Suppose uncle / aunty will speak chinese to you. Then you reply, " sorry2 im not chinese". Then he / she, "ohh Sabah aa?".. Then you, "Sarawak uncle / aunty".. Happens everytime
Same to me!!
I can relate coz it happens to me🤣🤣🤣🇲🇾
Video macamni yang kita mahu !
For a short video, there is tons of good info here . And for the 2 talents here, that's commendable considering the fact both of you do not speak your own mother tongue well. A big responsibility there for us parents to pass down our LB heritage to this and coming generations. The LB language is one of them.
Your daughter was an excellent talent! 🥰
Ethnic group of Sarawak that exist.
Iban (Remun, Balau, Seberuang, Sebuyau, etc)
Bidayuh (Lara, Jagoi, Biatah, Siburan, Taee, Sadong, etc)
Malayu (S'wak, Bruneian, Pontianak)
Melanau (Matu-Daro, Beligian, Mirian, etc)
Kayan
Kenyah
Penan
Punan
Kelabit
Lun Bawang / Lundayah
Murut
Lihan
Sekapan
Memaloh (Ibanic sub-ethnic group)
Bukitan/Ukit/Ukitan
Longkiput / Lakiput
Sihan
Tabun (Populasi Terkini: kurang daripada 50 orang)
Saban
Seruan
Vaie (Melanau Sub-ethnic)
Kejaman (Kayan or Melanau Sub-ethnic)
Bisaya (Sub-ethnic group of Dayak Murut category)
Selakau (aka : Kendayan/Kanaya'tn)
Kedayan - Different from 'Kendayan'. This one from Brunei.
Tanjung - Hasil perkahwinan antara Iban dan Melanau
Chawan - Basically Baba Nyonya di Sarawak, tetapi mereka sudah banyak kacukan Dayak Orang Ulu (Kayan, Kenyah, etc. Penempatan hanya di Daerah Miri saja.
Etnik Dayak Muslim yang masuk kategori Melayu (atau tidak mahu diakui Dayak lagi):
Miriek - Asalnya Dayak Orang Ulu (Kayan/Kenyah).
Pegu - Asalnya orang yang beragama/berkeyakinan ajaran Hindu, masuk Islam dan jadi Melayu. Info masih kurang, tetapi kemungkinan Masyarakat Melayu di Daerah Samarahan berasal dari keturunan ini.
Extinct ethnic group from Sarawak (due to assimilation and intermarriage into dominant ethnic group)
Pegu
Daliek / Dalek
Lelak
Seru
Banyaknya tribes yang saya tak pernah dengar langsung 😮
Ahhhh I love this! 🥺🤍 so proud of you two!
thank you Precylla!! ❤️❤️ lama nda jumpa ko huhu
Hi guys. An excited Malay here. We *rarely* hear about or get to meet the "minorities among minorities" like you, so *thank you* for deciding to participate in this video (I know it must've been a lot of pressure). I have *so* many questions:
1. Are the places named Long this or Long that in Sarawak, Sabah, Brunei, and Kalimantan *all* Lun Bawang areas? Or is that not necessarily so?
2. Is Irau Aco Lun Bawang celebrated on May 31st every year, like the Ibans' Ari Gawai and Kadazan-Dusuns' Tadau Kaamatan?
3. Why are those men at 6:54 wearing cowboy hats? Are the hats just a costume, or are they now considered traditional (You know, like the tiaras and flower bouquets at modern Malay weddings)
4. Do you think that there still exists a lot of confusion regarding ethnic labels used for/by Borneon natives? (e.g. the Kadazan-Dusuns in the 50s, the Bidayuhs presently, as well as who is a Dayak and who isn't, in general)
Just a note:
That comment about "looking Chinese" and "having fair skin" is not something unique to Lun Bawangs. Many people of Austronesian descent possess those qualities, regardless of whether they live in the cool highlands or the hot lowlands. And by many "people of Austronesian descent", I mean the Dayaks of Borneo (In all three countries), the various ethnic groups of the Philippines (From Luzon to Mindanao), the Javanese, the Sundanese, other Southeast Asians, and *even* the Malays (Yes, Brunei Malays, Sarawak Malays, Kelantan Malays, Palembang Malays, Minangkabau Malays, etc. can also "look Chinese"). So yes, Amanda was partly right--It's just genetics. Timothy nailed it. Any East Asian and Southeast Asian can "look Chinese" or have fair skin.
For the first question i can say nope..not all places that started with Long are Lun Bawang areas...they may exist and live there as minority but nope..most of places in Sarawak has 5 or more of ethnics/tribes..
And for second question, yeah..some of Lun Bawang do celebrate on 30th or 31th of Mei until 1 or 2 June....the date varies for places as some has more activities or events than other places that organized by Lun Bawang people themselves
For third question...i will go with custome...as u can see most of Dayak tribes has their own clothes than look different from the others...
And for the last q, yes..there are still lot of confusions about ethnic labels...the frequently one is most of people will think all of us as Dayak while it is not...Dayak consist of many ethics and tribes...and some even didnt know about other tribes like Kenyah, Kayan, Penan, Orang Ulu, Melanau...most of time people will think us as Ibans...i dont know why? Maybe because of ignorance ot lack of reading😅? No offense but those case usually happened when Sarawakians and Sabahans come to Peninsular...i am not blaming all of them but i think instead of relying 100% on education systems to expose us , people nowadays can easily gain knowledge through Internet..
Question : Have you eaten? (English)
Wrong translation: Pian kuman ko? (Lun Bawang)
Correct translation: Pangeh ko kuman? (Lun Bawang)
Lun bawang ni org dia lawa² n segak²...dulu masa aku plkn ingt lagi ada sorang awek lun bawang...sampai skrg masih segar kecantikan dia dlm ingtn...hahhaha
Thanks Amanda & Timothy.. Learned something new from both of you..
And kudos to Says for this effort.. Please do more videos like this.. We want to know more about our fellow Malaysians especially from Borneo island.. Much love~
Lunbawang, lundayeh, tagel, murut, tabun, and kelabit
Is one group of etnik, even we use different languages, this etnik could have different name in Indonesia.. Like lun murut, treng, murut kolur, lun lod, padas and many other.
Love this Manda & Tim.
Selamat Hari Gawai & Kotobian Tadau Tagazo Do Kaamatan!
I think Lun Bawang pple are known for their great looks, at least from where I come from they're famous for that haha. Slmt Hari Gawai💖💖
Yes.. My race.. I'm lun dayeh from sabah!!! Nice to see you guys..
Sabah and Sarawak is like a hidden gem In Malaysia....a mystery world can be explored more...hope this pandemic end fast so we can reunited again and explore Sabah and Sarawak beauty..
Amanda, u famous now... So nice...good job ... Claim your token from me ya when ur back to bintulu 🥰 "true- we look like Chinese"
u promise ah? 😂 i screenshot this for proof HAHAHAH
@@amandamutang9447 okay. We celebrate it here when u come back ya... Add on one condition- u need to nanga nuba laya for us 🤭 with perfect 10 of 10.. gurau ja.. let me know when u here in Bintulu k... Take care.. kirim salam kat ur friend, patut look familiar- my friend punya brother 😅 his sister sama skolah at SMTM.. good job for both of u
Congrts...salam ra't Lunbawang Murut Brunei
Good Job SAYS! Need more this kind of contents in future. We Share, We Love 👍❤
I'm so happy for this video, Anun Bala Michael Ghad Pangiran here...
Im lunbawang from Lawas… when I study at Sabah and spoke lunbawng language to my others lunbawang friends in college my Sabahan friends will be like
👫🏻 : Punya laju kamu bckp mcm thailand pun ada sa dingar😂
Haha~ and I remembered my Sabahan friend was talking in "Sabahan" dialect, we, the Peninsular Malaysians were like, "Laju wei korang cakap~"
Excellent effort to both of u..im lun bwg fem Brunei...next vid hope to see more like this but do your research first to get accurate information...well done guys👍
I just watched your video, it's was very brilliant, I proud of y'all as Lun bawang generation, how to contact y'all, I one of the Lunbawang generation, who's want to learn more about Lun tau culture
I am from northern Philippines from the Benguet tribe and are called Igorot. some of our words are similar to ours. Proud that you guys have highlighted your culture. Keep going
Why don't you do videos on the tribes in the Philippines? It would be interesting.
Please make videos doing language and cultural comparisons between Igorot, Murut and Mizoram tribe.
Proud having lunbawang blood in me
oh hi there! 🙋🏻♀️
Hey I'm Indonesian, but I think I know why Lun Bawang people have fair skin
So in Indonesia, we learn that there're 3 types of Bumiputera : Melanesian, Proto-Malay and Deutro-Malat
Lun Bawang people are Proto-Malay, they migrated from Southern China to the archipelago, that's why they look like Chinese, eventho their culture is very different from Han Chinese.
Btw, I'm a quarter Proto-Malay, my father is from Malay Tribe in the lowland of South Sumatra, and my Mother is mixed malay Tribe and lintang tribe (lintang tribe is Proto-Malay)
So people often confuse, and think I'm chinese
I know about Lun Bawang and Lundayeh when one of the university joined the dance competition that we’ve organised (Malam Citra Bayu) and they performed the dance about Lun Bawang/ Lundayeh culture. Ohhhh rindunya kawan-kawan Borneo saya.
im Malay but my sister in law is Lun Bawang..and her kids so cute like Chinese but not Chinese i hope u guys can get what i mean😅
One of the best videos regarding East Malaysia
Thanks a lot for you guys @Amanda Mutang & @Timothy Upai you're representative Lun Bawang (Malay) and Lun Dayeh (Indo) it is like siblings and yeah of course just look like chinese😂
Hai. I'm happy that u did this video. Thank you.
but don't give wrong information , please do deep research for Lun Bawang tripe.
1. Nuba laya is not regular rice, and not only wrapped in Banana's leaf, but also in specific leaf, called "daun itip"
2. kelupis, is not "like nuba laya or regular rice", it is a Lun Bawang Glutinous rice which is we plant it by our self.
3. your necklace, with the big red bead? is not originally Lun Bawang's tradisional necklace, that is kelabit's necklace. ( not really expensive beads but because we make the beads . not buy)
4. Big Flute same as seruling?? no its not, seruling is serulling, and Bas(bass @ bash) is Bas (bass @ bash), this 2 is farrrrr away from "same".
do' do' hidup = mulun do' do'
I am from Lundayeh, from puneng Bawan krayan, Living in Jakarta, I am proud to see the Lun Bawang traditional culture that has been displayed.. hopefully the Lun Bawang culture & customs will be known more and more...🙏
loving this vid
Hi Amanda, feel proud when seeing small girl years ago has become a lun bawang star. Your dad shared this link. Steam a head don't hold back.
Kak Amanda is so pretty, i can’t-
wahh hahaha thank you! ☺️
@@amandamutang9447 most welcome, bait-bait di sinun!!!🤩
@@aeshaeth hehe makseh! 😬
woww. come across this. interesting
When Amanda mentions about Padan Liu, and they show the picture, I saw my college's friend there.. Lol famous dah kau Bien 😄
Sy maw tnya di kawasan long sukang line utk call , apa ya ? Yg available?
This was a great video. Im lun bawang who was born and raised in england, it's great learning more about the lun bawang culture and history
Please do more videos like this....about cultures, races, tribes, ethnicities, language, dialect, etc in Malaysia...
Timothy upai lindris !!! FSS UNIMAS ! Hhaha.. long no see
Love Lun Bawang friends I still rember dok malem ahhaaha
My classmate in college is a Lun Bawang. That's how i got to know that such ethnic exists. Thanks for this video. It's very educational.
good to know about Lun Bawang, good to know about cultures in East Malaysia. there's a lot more to explore! thank you SAYS!
do do kekem. salam dari lun dayeh kalimantan. mawang niat ku ne nier video medueh.
1st time aku dgr ni even aku org Sarawak . Wahhhh
Still many people don't know much about Lun Bawang because more people dont know about Lawas and Limbang because its was located across the Brunei.
Keep it up
May God bless
I am iban(kapit) mix lunbawang(limbang). Im so proud to be iban and lunbawang as well.. can someone suggest me a nice lunbawang male song? Tq.. ☺️
i’m so proud of amanda bro
Uuuuu I like this conversation
Please, Proud of you all. Make more good videos..I am waiting..
Ohhhhh.. now I know what is lun bawang ... Really good information get know.. Selamat hari gawai guys..
3:28 for bruneian kelupis, we dont use banana leaf, we use nyirik leaf
This is brilliant. Thank you so much!
Kamek org melayu Sarawak, love all my tribe in Sarawak.I proud to be borneon guy.we are unique...
semuet bang tik tok myh dwa anak k, mula neh lun keli ketau.😄
Agreed with you guys.. Same with us in sabah.. There are 44 tribe in sabah.. Like me also when i said im from sabah theh will assume im dusun or kadazan
Need more like this!
Interesting watching from India
Interesting video... Good job
I'm proud to be lun bawang from Brunei✝️🙏🏻
kat Semenanjung banyak suku Bawangers haha
Anun bala,,ni te wih ne follow blog medueh rat kuching,merepet tau amung bang tinudo luk do,,do tudo dai ruma na mula lawe,,God bless😘
Eyo my dear Lun Bawang friends!
Good job Says
Suka belajar benda baru 👍🏻
Ya i' m praoud to be lun bawang too...thank you to both of you..😍😍
Thank you guys proud of you all at least the world will know who we are.
Hi..we need to put some more videos related to our culture..it seems that the new generation especially born in the city have less knowledge of our culture.. doesn't matter if you're half breed..as long as it runs in your blood we have to preserve our culture otherwise its going to be forgotten..Im Lawasian my mom's is a highlander..my dad's low land..Do aco Lun Bawang😊🙏
It's good that we have the ladies that dont really know her culture because most of us are not really sure, we're stilk exploring our cultural roots
Hope there will be more contents from Borneo. As Malaysian, we need to know and care about them too.
may i suggest to do about Dusun tribe after this😆😆
Good job! Proud to be Lun Bawang!
I really want to go and travel all over Sarawak in the future♥️
Ui anak bidayuh, tapi ui keli buri lun bawang.. Mawang niat ui nier video nih.. Lun bawang ❤❤❤
Mepad kiteh peh men.... 😁
😍 everytime i watch things like this gives me goosebumps
omggg!! Lun Bawang Hadir 🤩🤩🤩🤞🏻
This is why I was so emotional when Henry Golding openly said on the Ellen DeGeneres show "I'm Iban".
Cause we, the native and indigenous of Borneo, almost NEVER get mentioned properly on the national stage, let alone the international stage. So many people still consider us in terms of "other" and that is so, so hurtful. We're still viewed as something "exotic" and "different" just because we live somewhere most people haven't visited. It's ridiculous, and more people should know better by now, but it's still hard to make that progress, because so many of us have become used to not mentioning our heritage or ethnicity, because we want to be accepted by the major races in Malaysia.
Like, I should be able to say I'm Dusun, and someone not immediately assuming we live in trees.
I shouldn't have to default to I'm Sabahan (and everyone assuming I'm from KK) just because that's the easiest option for others to comprehend.
Because the truth is, there are so many of us; and we're all so distinct and unique from each other, that simply generalizing us as a single culture, is incredibly disrespectful.
We need more videos like this, where people are given a chance to say "I am..." and just OWN their heritage. It doesn't need to be comprehensive, it doesn't need to be flashy. It just needs to be SAID.
Cause Henry Golding could have easily just said "I'm Malaysian" when introducing himself, but he consciously chose to add "I'm Iban" to his identity, on such an international stage. Because representation matters. No matter who you are, representation matters.
More story about Lun bawang plss.
Thank u for bringing the knowledge to us
can bane be wear on any occasion?
Tq. This is new info.