Pau 2019 CCI ***** Horse trials - Horse try to jump a wall during cross country
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Jack PINKNEY and the horse Raphael try to jump a wall during the cross country at Pau CCI ***** 2019. Horse and rider are fine. The reins was broken during the cross country at the fence number 6 and the rider cannot have full control of his horse.
and I believe now after watching this for about the hundredth time that the horse believed it was a brush fence. He saw the definition of the bottom of the fence and believed he could jump through the vertical lines - it looks a lot like a brush fence although of course we know it isn't but the horse believed his rider guided him to it, therefore he trusted his rider. Also, you can see the jumping effort was not to go over this wall as he could have easily jumped another meter higher, he thought he was casually jumping through it.
I'm horrified on so many levels. Particularly with the rider's behaviour afterwards. On a professional level, I am fascinated. My current PhD research is looking into perception-action coupling in horse-rider dyads and the development of affordances for action.
What a prat, horse doing his best, crashes, and rider chucks a tanty! Poor form.
His anger was at himself. Because he didn’t pull his horse up earlier when his rein broke, and he allowed himself to put his horse in this situation. His anger wasn’t at his horse.
I don’t care who is he angry at, his first reaction should have been checking on and taking care of his horse who just jumped into a solid wall. He was a total prat. He was tossing his whip and stomping about before the horse even got up.
What we don't see is that the horse ran off the only injury to it is a cut on the face
You are the only prat.
How about checking on your HorSe instead of throwing a fit like a two year old . I understand u got disqualified but that is his life going against that wall not yours !
Mermaid Cataleya if you actually read his response and read what happened he wasn’t pissed at the horse. It was a visceral response, he was pissed at himself for continuing the course after his rein had snapped and having endangered his horses life.
@@nikks4ncole that's what he wrote afterwards to minimise the damage to his reputation.
@@nikks4ncole did he say why he ran around like an idiot instead of checking that horse? I had a teenager student falling off a tripping horse on a field once. They where racing and the horse fell. The girl didnt even land on the ground before she was up checking her horse - of course! Can a teenager do it - it SHOULD come natural to a grown up professional......
Shocking display of bad horsemanship - the rider was out of control way before the wall and the horse was valiantly trying to do his best
Jack had a broken rein... He had control, but lost it when Stan got strong.
I have very mixed feelings about this. Not his fault about the broken rein. Faulty tack happens. But the best decision would’ve been to stop when it happened. Everyone knows in XC there are moments where you must release your reins a bit if you had a rough jump to avoid catching your horses mouth or causing an accident. If he was riding with just part of a rein on the left, there’s no way he would’ve been able to go down a down bank without getting pulled forward with the horse. Or frankly do many XC jumps as part of XC is showing you can have control with short reins or longer reins. But kudos to him to admitting it was his fault and recognizing the issue when he was approached by show officials. The tantrum he was throwing was anger at himself. Not at his elimination. Hopefully this was enough to convince him to not make this mistake again. Thankfully both horse and rider are okay.
Jack felt safe enough on Stan that he felt he could continue until he lost control. If he would've completed with one rein, he would've been a hero, but everyone jumps the gun when he doesn't...
What is there to have a mixed feeling about ? He NEVER should have continued. He could have killed that horse. Some people make honest mistakes like not estimating the proper strides to a jump, but continuing a ride that requires both reins for safety is someone who is all for himself. Not exactly the kind of horseman we need in any equestrian sports. And again, showing anger at himself before a concern for the horse is just narcissistic.
What a horse?? Willing to try what his rider pointed him at...Don't care about the fame or success of that rider...I hope he sees his horse hit that fence in his sleep, awake, nightmares and pretty much all the time...and then he is MAD? REALLY. That horse almost killed himself for you. Because of you..dreadful horsemanship!
exactly, showed no concern for his horse afterwards just threw his toys around about the elimination
Nope. He was mad at himself for endangering his horse by riding with a broken rein. Something like that can happen so quick in the moment that his brain may not have been able to process it all.
I don’t care who you are or what level your showing at.
If your equipment breaks or is faulty; you bloody well pull up and eliminate yourself.
If that’s a sponsored horse; I hope to god they give him/her to a rider who will put that horse as number 1 not some insignificant ribbon. 😡❤️🐴
@@tatumgray4078 I thought that, till I watched it and realised his rein was broken. the hope tried his heart out to jump what he thought was the next fence and almost killed itself and the rider..twat springs to mind..Ground jury should have pulled him up for dangerous riding.. he wont live this down ever and for a moment on the XC course, where was his brain? :( Poor horse
These pricks wont see what we see..if they did. They wouldnt be doing this in the first place
I am the first person to criticize arm-chair critics. It is so easy to say what we would have done when we can't even ride at the level, never felt the pressures of owners, sponsors, etc. and weren't in the moment with our adrenaline up. I understand that we're all human, mistakes and miscalls happen and we have every right to make those but at some point, this level of rider needs to be held to some sort of standard. His rein broke at fence six, meaning he had the whole course to pull up. As well as XC riding literally teaches you to ride at the seat of your pants and that things don't go to plan. I don't see why someone riding at that level would not have enough experience to know better in this particular situation, considering how severe the consequences could've been. Regardless of whether he would've finished safely or trampled a crowd of spectators, it was dangerous riding and I believe it should be reprimanded.
Worst example of horsemanship I have EVER seen at this level. He should be fined and banned. I get the frustration - but your first and immediate concern should be the welfare of your horse THAT ACTUALLY TRIED TO JUMP A WALL FOR YOU!
That was his first concern, but I apologize on his behalf that he was a human for a second.
I'm sorry but that level of irresponsibility should be something ban-worthy. Not only could the horse have been even more badly injured, he could've run it into a crowd and injured countless people
I wondered why this happened. Now that I see his reins were broken, it could have been prevented. I imagine the guy is angry at himself for endangering this generous animal. Such a pity for the poor horse.... If you watch it again, you see that as he is headed for the opening in the fence that he dropped the broken rein and was reaching to grab it and pulled the horse into the wall.
Ooooh! Ok, I think they may have broken when he went into the water--he picked them up there too and I was like 'what's going on?" But still---I have NEVER seen a horse try to jump something THAT big! I hope the horse was ok. Sorry, the rider irked me--I understand he was frustrated but having a temper tantrum is not sportsmanlike nor is it helpful to your horse.
Poor horse! The rein may have hurt his mouth. The rider pulled the rein so strong that it was broken. Then the rider didn't have control on the horse and for any reason the poor horse went to the fence. The rider was angry and didn't care about his generous horse! So sad!
I heard it broke when he went over a fence. Could’ve gotten caught or a faulty product. Which can happen a lot. If you read the article on eventing nation, you’ll see how much he really cares.
That’s exactly why he was angry. You are completely correct. Jack was angry at himself for allowing his horse to be put in this position.
@@linaki01 I agree that his decision to attempt to continue after the equipment gave way in the water complex was a poor one, but no way was he angry at his horse. He knew he f'd up and was saying to himself, wtf was I thinking....you can see him watching to see that his horse cantered safely away. I imagine if I were on Raphaels back at the time he turned to jump a 10 foot wall, my thoughts would be centered around thinking we were both going to die because of my stupid mistake.
HORRIBLE horsemanship skills...MY GOD...the man didn't even run over to check on his horse, he was just pissed that he was eliminated....SHAME ON THIS RIDER.
He was upset with himself and the horse took off. Instead of jumping to conclusions try reaching out to the rider or do some research. If you want to chase after a galloping horse, you can.
@@meganproffitt424 the horse had a shattered shoulder, he did not "gallop away" he just lightly trotted off. Felix didn't give a shit about that poor horse
R U Serious! Is he actually getting mad over something after his horse tries to jump a wall like he ordered it to do and crashes????? Should he even be aroun horses - acting like that when the horse is suffering? Poor, poor horse! And poor poor horse sport - with people like this there will be an end to the sport. Its up to the FEI to get these kind of people banned from the sport altogether, or we all will fall with them.....
Baby anger lol, he didn't care at all about the horse and that he might be huart after this collision, but very angry to have failed the competition. He threw things like my 7 years old son lol
Actually, that’s exactly what he WAS angry. That he didn’t pull up when his rein broke and allowed his horse to be out in this position to be potentially hurt. He was mad at himself. Not his horse.
@@devildogtigress it doesn't excuse the fact that he knowingly endangered his horse by riding with a broken rein only to finish the competition! And if he truly cared about his horse, he would've shown it on the spot!
ne critiquez pas des personnes qui font de leur mieux pour etre qualifié a de supers competitions. Jack tentait le tout pour le tout pour etre qualifié. Je suis sure qu'il ne se fiche pas de son cheval ca ete sur le coup de la colere car il n'est pas qualifié. Vous n'aurez pas fait mieux donc arretez de critiquez s'il vous plait. Ca arrive a tout le monde et dans tous les niveaux. donc merci et arretez de critiquer car le cavalier comme le cheval ont fait de leur mieux et se sont battus jusqu'au bout
@@Oriane.Herman des coups de colères instantanés oui, ça arrive à tout le monde, mais il a continué son caprice pendant plusieurs secondes et ne s'est pas retourné une seule fois sur son cheval qui pourtant, s'est jeté de toute sa masse contre une barrière solide ;) l'esprit de compétition fait oublier l'essentiel
@@devildogtigress pffft. Nobody believes that giant load of crap.
How about you actually make sure that your horse isn't going to die rather than looking like me when I step on a piece of lego
I hope the horse - trying his heart out - was okay.
Horse was fine, had a little cut on the face but nothing serious
Not only was this a crappy rider - he's all over the horse, not balanced and not WITH the horse, he was definitely not concerned about the welfare of the horse but angry that the "stupid horse" did what he did.....which was what the STUPID RIDER directed him to do. Anyone with an once of understanding knows that a horse has a blind spot in front of it, they can't even SEE a jump when they get within about 10'-12' feet of it. They are jumping on blind faith and trust in their rider. This temper-tantrum idiot does not deserve to ever sit a horse again.
His left rein broke earlier in the course. He's "all over the horse, not balanced and not WITH the horse" because he was trying to get his rein back. Discuss all you want about his decision making, whether he should have pulled up, and the tantrum he threw, but I don't think you can really call anyone riding around a 5* course, let alone most of it with one rein broken, a crappy rider.
Also, horses can definitely see a jump when they get within 10-12 feet of it. They just have to look down the plane of their nose, hence why it's important for a horse to be able to put their head up when jumping. The blind spot is directly in front of and between their eyes.
In a story on Horse and Hound, Jack stated that his rein broke at the rubber section and he was able to regain what he felt was enough to continue on. He took the big, wide table and lost the rein again and the horse continued thinking he was asking for the wall. Jack was furious with himself for having continued and not pulling up....that is why you see his display - anger at himself for endangering his horse. www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/rein-break-accident-pau-cross-country-699602?ET Read the article.
If you watch the longer version someone walks his horse back to him. He snatches the reins turns away from his horse and walks briskly back to barns or wherever.
He never once took the time to check his horse over to see if he was hurt from smashing into that wall. Not even a pat on the neck to thank him for his bravery. I'm sorry but to me his lack of care and empathy towards his horse in those telling moments says a lot about his character.
First class jerk who does not deserve the ride on that amazing brave boy. Shame!
@@mybluesaway6856 Agreed!
Debbie Knebel i smell a coverup . He’s just trying to make himself not look like the asswhole he is. He shouldn’t be aloud to own a majestic animal like a horse.
I would have believe that excuse IF he had actually expressed any concern for the horse that just SLAMMED INTO A FENCE. Not just unprofessional, but super disrespectful and dismissive of the poor horse.
@@mybluesaway6856 He's frustrated at himself, it's not relevant to the horse whatsoever and who says the horse wasn't checked in the barn? I see no reason for him to check the horse on course, if the horse is obviously fine. If he was injured, he wouldn't have ran off. Jack is a well respected rider and loves Stan dearly, hence why he's emotional and taking it hard.
Rider is a very poor sport. The horse was doing it's best.
So - what a a big deal you all are making here!?? Emotions are emotions. Are you all perfect angels to judge anybody else at all? You don't know why he reacted like that, but you surely can presume and assume! For me it looks like he is angry to himself that he didn't manage to lead his horse towards the gate and horse misunderstood the wall as an obstacle to overcome.
Don't judge anybody unless you have walked 100 000 miles in somebody boots! Just so simple!
Exactly, and they don't show half of the video, im sure he checks the horse as quick as possible! All these bloody know it alls, he was probably in shock aswell!
Poor horse, I fear for him! What some people do for $ horses pumped up beyond their limit. That poor horse was jumping out of fear! Designers need to learn about how the horse's mind works! Idiots!
Oh honey that horse was fine.
I don’t think you quite understand what happened in the video... the reins broke at the initial water fence, and then the rider continued, and then lost the rein and had absolutely no control, so the horse found itself facing a rustic wall very much like a jump and tried to jump it.
That horse wasn’t jumping beyond its capabilities “pumped-up” as you say, and I don’t think anyone would be able to tell if the horse was scared or not, at least definitely. And what on earth would all that have to do with the course designer? Or people jot understanding how a horses mind works? 😂😂😂
@@frandowns-wheeler6484 None of the negative comments understand. They're all 12 year olds playing Internet trainer over a video taken out of context.
Horse is like, WTF, Dude???
Poor bloody horse!!!!
Poor horse 😰
riders fault 100 percent
Rein was broken on the left. Horse saw the fence and locked on. And the rider couldn’t try to reach for the not broken part.
Horrific
WTF!! Stop this, it's pure animal abuse. We need guidelines to protect horses (or all animals, for that matter) from this insanity. Too cruel!
We do have guidelines.
Nice and forward going. Is the rider and horse ok?
Yes. He trotted the horse out this morning and no lameness or stiffness.
Virginia Frazier that’s really good
Virginia Frazier hows the rider?
hollie highway I’ve heard he’s okay. Just beating himself up about it. He did go talk to the show officials who gave him a warning. He completely blamed himself and was honest about the whole thing.
Tatum Gray it’s good he was honest best wishes for them both
Somebody making comments here are too judgemental. He did not take it out on the horse, and he is just expressing his frustration. So ease off people!
They probably support a terrorist organization like PETA and find every reason to be Internet trainers.
Он ваще, сам повел лошадь, и злится, а лошади больна
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I don't like this!