Yeah, I don't like that either. It's ridiculous, and I wouldn't even want it to be "live action". I want an animated Lion King movie, even if it is 3D.
My high school made an infinitely better live action lion king in the form of their musical play. They got really creative and stylized with the costumes. This isn’t live action. It just sucks.
Not to mention they have already released the history of them. They have already revealed yes they are brothers and scar wasn't his real name. They named him the Swahili word for trash which is worse when you think about the fact that mufasa is Swahili for King. Yes I might have been curious about their parents and how could they name their children King and trash but they didn't even do that in this movie. They just made a backstory movie that doesn't even make sense as a background for the movie
@@LeadrynMcKrotch I hate that they didn't make the movie based around what was already established, and instead went for non-sensical shit for the characters. A movie being done in the old Disney fashion with a tale of a strained brother bond would've been so much better and tragic to watch then, "Look, he was an orphan! Join this epic adventure of how this cub somehow manages to be an heir to the throne to a lineage he shares no blood with!" since it feels like they're going to make a Mary Sue out of him.
@@LeadrynMcKrotch It would have made so much more sense if they stuck with that canon. Like it would make sense why Scar rebels against him in youth bc of their parent's mistreatment. Maybe Mufasa knowing it wasn't right would decide for forgive him once, leading to his later downfall in LK...
In the 90's, at best this would have been a Saturday morning cartoon spinoff, and at worst, a bargain bin direct to VHS throw away. Today, it's advertised as a blockbuster event. One of the biggest crimes of all is that Disney, the grandfather of 2d American animation and storytelling, has reached senility and forgotten how to make art.
@@Anthonycheesman33 those movies were more experimental, the jungle book one had an adult mowgli and admittedly only the 101 dalmation had some success and if they did do a 101 remake in the here and now they would likely have the animals speak. those remakes didn't start the trend the remakes movies in general in the 90s and 2000s were kind of just a thing possibly may have garnished a niche following some of the most iconic movies are remakes like 50s 10 commandment but you can never be sure if that happens. Post alice was the trend where it's just copy paste especially beauty and the beast onwards where they do make questionable changes some of it is technical like editing, sound, lighting, CGI a long with struggling on justifying existence and heck with Aladdin they wasted an opportunity with the credits being a slap in the face
@@Anthonycheesman33 ... In fairness... the 90s Jungle Book movie was exactly as @PhilRiveraMedia described though right? A bargain bin direct to VHS throw away... that's what it was. While the Glenn Close version of Dalmatians was not straight to video... it received the exact same criticism that all the modern stuff is getting... bland hollow pointless etc... Point being... you don't just go from awesome ====> suck at the flip of a switch... it's an evolution. One could argue that the making of those movies was just a precursor for events to come ;-)
Dude, 90s Disney spinoffs were banging. Aladdin, Hercules, Buzz Lightyear, those were all great. I would love for Disney to go back to making those kinds of spinoff. Hell, when Lightyear came out I was constantly wondering why it wasn't like the Buzz Lightyear spinoff that was already great!
@@Anthonycheesman33 Fun Fact: The 1994 live action Jungle Book was directed by Stephen Sommer who of course directed Deep Rising, The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, Van Helsing, and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
This "Remake" era is way worse then the "Sequel" era was in the early 2000s. At least the sequels was in traditional 2D animation, and not nearly as expensive to make, and where not being treated as big amazing deals. Just cheap cash grabs that some of which actually had some heart.
I've heard that Cinderella 3 was actually amazing and one of the few decent sequels from that era. Mulan 2 was nonsensical as it preached marry who you love, despite the fact that the women had to marry the princes, because otherwise the Mongols would vaporize China.
@@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. Cinderella 3 is really good. So is 101 Dalmatians 2, Bambi 2, The Lion King 2, and The Lion King 1/2 are both great in there own ways. The Jungle Book 2 is fun. Lilo and Stitch 2 is sweet. Peter Pan 2 is actually really good. Though that one did have a theatrical release if I remember correctly.
@@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. yes, it is an interquel. But still has 2 in the name. Never understood that. Guess giving it a subtitle instead was not in the cards. Same with Tarzan 2. But they are still counted among the sequels. And they did come out in that era.
You forgot to include that Timane is a trans autistic and handicapped weasel on one leg and Rumbaa is gay and has social anxiety, depression, and agoraphobia. Because that's what everything is about nowadays.
I don’t think it’s a lack of creativity. It’s fucking corporate executives strangling it to death. Wish was a boring movie. But its concepts are so interesting and fun.
The Lion King (1994) is like a painting that an artist slaved over for months, meticulously sketching, coloring, selecting and mixing pigments, because they had a clear vision of something in their mind that they felt was worth showing to the world. The Lion King (2019) is like a really badly-taken photograph of that same painting, with awful lighting and so many smudges on the camera lens that you can barely tell what you're looking at. That photographer has absolutely no right to get upset when people prefer the original painting to their terrible photo.
I agree. The original 1994 animated Lion King movie is so creative, charming, epic, exciting, beautiful looking, had a magnificent animation, amazing music, great characters, awesome villains, and chemistry. But the 2019 live action Lion King movie is nothing but a cash grab similar to most films directed by Michael Bay. Despite good special effects, the 2019 Lion King was a terrible mess. It has no chemistry, no emotions, no excitement, no facial expressions, no nothing.
In fairness... National geographic had truly fantastic artists behind the lens, and animation was art, the bastardization of Live action realization loses the best artists from both mediums in translation as they lack real creatures to capture through cinematography and are limited by "realism" in animation.
Pixar actually still has its charm and greatness. They are still delivering original stories with impressive and awesome visuals. Majority of their movies are still amazing and great and had positive and critical acclaim scores on Rotten Tomatoes. Inside Out 2 could work as a sequel since it focuses on Riley's teenage life and Elio might be a blockbuster hit once again. You guys need to have an open mind and not full on hatered and bias all the time. You guys need to chill out understand. ☺️☺️
@@kevzsabz8253 to be clear personally I don't really hate Disney that much, but their standards HAVE dropped, even Pixar movies aren't that great, Soul felt mid but honestly I chalk that up to not being in their target demographic, but "Onward" is pretty close to my strike zone as far as themes go... Yet it's nowhere near an "Up". "Elemental" is also pretty mid the only real saving grace are the more unique themes award shows love. Marvel jumped the shark after Endgame, not "everything" was bad but whene every other thing is a traincrash that refuses to correct course while making the train longer it's a problem... SW... I just can't even start on how bad it is to BS continue an incoherent universe half cocked without a plan or vision.
@@michaellane5381 I understand Sir Michael. I have to defend Pixar though because of consistency and quality of their films. I have to agree with you a bit when you said "I chalk that up to not being their target demographic" because i think the explanation for that is that every Pixar movie has its target Demographic actually. Turning Red for example the film's target demographic its obviously for Asians, Teenagers and Women/Girls. Thats the reason why a lot of female reactors that I've seen that watch the film has said that after they watch the film it became very relatable to them. For the the Marvel movies and series i have to agree with you a lot on that one i think it went downhill after Endgame unfortunately Sir Michael. ☺️☺️
@@rachelsloan1922 If you don't care about anything to do with lions when making your lion movie, just make it follow fictional creatures instead, then it's not factual at all!
The original Lion KIng has Mufasa directly say to Simba "let me tell you something that my father told me. Look at the stars. The great kings of the past look down at us from those stars. So whenever you feel alone, just remember that those kings will always be there to guide you. And so will I." But I guess all of that was a lie, huh?
Idk know why they are doing this whole “you love the original, then your gonna like this remake except get this.. we changed the og story and butchered its cohesive story. Your welcome” Like ??? How is nobody in the room saying this is a bad idea.
Just.... I have no words to describe just how great that line is. And that clip of Mufasa falling to his death and Simba's screaming "NOOOOOO!!!" still gives me chills, it's so friggin' good. And Jeremy Irons' delivery of "Long live the king," is just... holy shit, bone-chilling. There are so many moments from the original animated Lion King film that the trash remake and its trash prequel can't ever take away. Also, imagine the hype if this Mufasa film were in 2D animation. I've seen so many redraws of the scenes in the trailer, and they look way better than the CGI garbage in the trailer. Mufasa was the legitimate heir to the throne, Scar was his biological younger brother next in line until Simba came along... Hell, Scar literally said it himself! Like, there's just no way Mufasa was adopted. Just no.
Aslan the lion from Narnia had more expression and charm than live-action Simba and Scar. Their fur looks dirty, they got dead eyes. Nothing about them is colorful or interresting. They are so boring! Aslan has a charming voice, big eyes and his fur looked soft. I know he doesn't exist but find him intriguing and entertaining 😀Did he had a family? Was he the first talking animal in this kingdom? Simba had no emotions in his face and voice, i don't want to follow his adventures.
Aslan is literally Jesus Christ as He would appear in Narnia. He’s the king and creator of that realm, so yes- Aslan would be the first of the talking animals there
Narnia is best franchise for Disney They can easily earn billions by making beautiful animation of it. But nope they r not interested. The right is with Netflix but I don't see them doing anything with it. So Disney just take it!
Whats frustrating is that we already HAVE an established canon. We already know about Mufasa and Scar. Scar implies IN THE FIRST MOVIE, that genetics wise, Mufasa got the brawn and Scar got the brain. He implies they're related. This shit is so sad because there's 0 thought put into it.
We are staring into the cold dead eyes of capitalism. Ain't no fall from grace. The artists are as passionate as ever, the ceos are as sociopathic as ever.
@@reniefuwa Cronyism is true capitalism. Regulated capitalism is not. The entire POINT of "true capitalism" is to suck up as much wealth and capital as you can for as little as you can.
Mufasa's (the movie) color palette is literally a sad beige mom who devoids their children of color. If this movie is aimed at children and their nostalgic parents, they need rich, vibrant colors! I remember having a lion king beach towel and sleeping bag when I was kid and tableware all drenched in bright colors!! It also is very heartbreaking to see a studio I love just fall like this. I remember going to every Disney animated movie release, and now I just don't bother watching even on Disney+
Agreed! When I think of The Lion King, I think of how intensely yellow and sunny and happy Simba is as a cub, how his mane grows to the exact same shade of red as his father, the toxic violent green-ness of Be Prepared, the deep blue of Simba looking up at the stars. Now it's just like... a boring wash of brown. Which sucks, because Africa has some truly gorgeous sights full of vibrancy and colors!
@@briandaaranda9735Right? It’s too bad they didn’t go in that direction by animating Mufasa and leaning heavily into the latest animation stylings while amping up traditional African colors and patterns, almost like a more elegant painterly version of Madagascar’s animation. That alone would cover the sins of a shallow plot.
and they say "but muh live action realism" (cgi lions on cgi background, but whatever) they forget africa irl has plenty of color. but its like even the sky is sad beige in the movie.
The recent live action remakes are giving "animation is for kids, so here's dull, live action nostalgia bait for you adults!" I hate it so much. It was the same with The Little Mermaid remake. So dark, so dull, it's almost depressing to look at. The Lion King (2019) and Mufasa just makes me feel as empty and void of color as the scenes are.
Let's just go all the way with Lion King. I want a movie of Mufasa's grandpa, and I want there to be movies of every single last one of his ancestors until we get to the first amphibian to walk on land.
Funny you said that, because I just recently had a brainstorm idea that I wished Disney would hear out on. It would be a miniseries that focuses on the history and timeline of the Pride Lands. Giving us more depth about the legacy of different prides and rulers who claimed the throne of Pride Rock. It would also help answer questions or give us creative insights that help lead us to The Lion King. Like showing the banishment of the hyenas, how Scar got his scar, how did Rafiki come about, etc. And even better, it would be 2-D hand drawn animated. Sticking to the way The Lion King from 1994 was presented. I even came up with a pretty cool title: "Pride Land Chronicles: Legends of The Lion King". Honestly, if Disney was any smarter or even wanted a sense of remorse, they would consider this pretty solid idea over the garbage they're making now. But hey, this is Disney we're talking about- they lack creativity, they lack magic, and they don't listen to reason.
"Does the film need to exist?" "No." "Did anyone ask for it?" "No." "Can we make a tonne of money off it because of nostalgia?" "Yes." "Here's $100,000,000,000,000, make us rich already!" The new Disney philosophy
*film doesn’t make money* “Who can we blame?” “Well the audience was supposed to pay us money but they didn’t so obviously the audience” “Wtf audience?!”
i've been excited for sonic 3 since sonic 2's shadow reveal. i didn't even know this mufasa prequel was coming out before this video and i have no intention of watching it.
I'm so mad that the movies that NO ONE asked for get greenlit, yet the movies that people actually get excited about get canceled and written off for tax purposes. This isn't just creative bankruptcy, this is pure corporate greed.
Nah, their creative bankruptcy was the fact they already did it. Buzz Lightyear the Animated Series, anyone? They could have gotten so much money by just adapting the tv series of the big screen. Feels like an actual cartoon for kids (like the OG movie) AND would be bringing in the old fanbase!
I'm surprised that Disney doesn't just go back to adapting folktales and the like, that is what that they were originally known for, and from a narrative perspective, it's a fairly safe approach. Nowadays, people are fairly familiar with the old classics, and Disney doesn't need to make any big changes since they already have a template to work with. Actually, up until "Frozen," their adaptations were fairly faithful.
Faithful but less depressing, which I honestly appreciated. You're right though that they should go back to adapting folktales, that was easily what they did best consistently
@@ThePrincessCH my first thought was Japanese folktales like Urashima Taro, but after their horrible treatment of the Mulan live action I don't know if they should be trusted with the Japanese culture since they clearly don't care about that kind of thing anymore. They could also always go back to the Grimm fairytales and do something like The White Snake, The Seven Ravens, or even something that everyone knows like Little Red Riding Hood if they want to ensure people are interested. There's genuinely so many options out there that I can't figure out why they don't do it anymore. It's baffling
@@Akeyins I was thinking more along the lines of "The Legend of the White Snake." It's a love story at its core, but the protagonist has a sort of adopted/foster sister. It would have been interesting to see a piece of media that explores the sibling bond alongside a romantic relationship.
@@ThePrincessCH oh, I love The Legend of the White Snake! Though honestly I really don't want Disney to touch it lol, partly because there's already an amazing adaptation of it, and also because I literally don't trust them with Chinese culture after the live action Mulan. I don't even want to imagine the ways they'd probably ruin it
Remakes and just unnecessary movies aside, Wish is also just a big glaring sign that the studio will scrap anything of true value. The concept animatics for Wish and the art makes me so angry and sad for the creative people on that project who had to make a much worse version of their vision. The baffling bad decisions Disneys higher up make are very much reflected that, I believe, 4 out 5 box office bombs were from Disney themselves. They value no creativity, just dollar signs.
What makes it even funnier is that Mufasa and Scar WEREN'T brothers in earlier versions of the story. They deliberately chose to MAKE them brothers because it made Scar's betrayal more dramatic - this is also when they realized the similarities to Hamlet. This is also why Lion King 2 establishes numerous times that Kovu isn't Scar's son; he WAS earlier in production, but they realized this would make Kiara his cousin. So many creative choices in this franchise were contingent on them being related and it's laughable that they're trying to contradict this now.
@@cosmicspacething3474 In the original Lion King, there's a line from Scar that implies they're blood-related by saying Mufasa got the brawns while he got the brains, and that blood-relation is confirmed by sources outside the original movie (the book "A Tale of Two Brothers" and the kids show "The Lion Guard"), saying Scar is the second-born cub. Basically, whoever pitched this movie did not care enough do their research despite "Mufasa" being a prequel to the original.
This movie doesn't exist to me. Lion King, Lion King 2: Simba's Pride, and Lion King 1 1/2 are the only Lion King movies that exist, I don't want to hear about anything else that came after, especially the live action movies! Okay, I liked the Timon & Pumbaa cartoon series too.
@@VTWS True, but Lion King was one of the few Disney movies to get some pretty good sequels, which is why I only count the three Lion King movies and the Timon & Pumbaa series.
Unfortunately, those of us who care are a very small minority compared to the general public, which is of course what companies will pander to because they NEED people in theaters to turn a profit, and they need profit to make more movies. I just wish they did what they used to do and put their smaller, safer, cash-grab projects straight to streaming instead of trying to make them all big theatrical releases.
The Disney we grew up with in the 90s and before that has died. None of the original creators of the Disney renaissance exist or work at Disney studios anymore. Just the wretched executives and the culture obsessed people that only care about now instead of creating timeless classics.
It's not creative bankruptcy, but it is the fear of risk-taking, because risk-taking is always a gamble and easily makes the shareholders angry. That's why the shareholders insist on choosing a familiar and safer option instead of any risk in order to guarantee a more stable cash flow. So in shortly and other words, the system is broken. The same thing happened to Nokia, they were releasing touch screen smartphones and tablets years before Apple, but the shareholders were of the opinion that smartphones and tablets would never become the thing and made Nokia abandon the projects.
The same thing has been happening with video games, and then gems like Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 come out and prove that passion and risks are actually profitable. But the shareholders would rather have safe and mid games that are guaranteed to make money even if no one will remember them in a year 🙄 same with shows and film and music and every form of entertainment
I think this is the real answer, then Disney is truly going to fall completely in these film-making, too much on business and not on creativity. They have succeeded taking risks before, it makes no sense why they wouldn't now
Half of why you liked Hunchback is the music direction/composition, which is something I hadn’t thought about - when did Disney last put out a truly strong soundtrack?
@@ThePrincessCH Because at least for me, his music sounds very samey when he starts coasting. He has his formula and when you've heard one song you've heard them all.
Honestly, I've lost all faith in Disney. And this is coming from a LIFELONG fan. First, it was how they started showing favoritism for Marvel and Star Wars over their own in-house works. Then it was the uninspired animated films they've been releasing since 2016. ("Wish" was just the final nail in the coffin.) Now they've confirmed that all their upcoming animated films in the near future will be sequels/prequels. (Yes, I'm counting "Mufasa" because I don't think it or the 2019 "Lion King" belong in the 'live-action remake' category.) I NEVER thought I'd say this but Disney, I'm done.
Lol just imagine getting an art degree and having a teacher praise the crap out of Disney? Yeah have no idea what to do now that not just Disney but other big animation studios are doing this….just not as bad….
@@Denebula549 My brother wants to work in animation and my mom has been telling him to aim for jobs at big studios like Disney or Illumination. He hates it lmao, indie animation's where it's at if you want to tell a story nowadays.
Disney is a sad company now. A pathetic shadow of what it once was. An innovator, and leader. Now they are an ideologically bent, creatively bankrupted company thanks to Iger and folks like him. I don’t care if these films are filled with agenda or politics. Write them well for heavens sake. But I know these folks cannot admit fault and accept they’ve done wrong. It’s everyone else’s fault. Never their own. That and the audiences who don’t ask for better stuff. Call me petty but I look down on these folks just as much not for liking the stuff. But saying folks like me are just “haters”. I’d rather be a “hater” with standards and self awareness than a blind consumer.
I don’t think they ever cared about agendas. They just went along with the bare minimum representation to appeal to a broader audience. And make money.
The Mufasa trailer and drab color scheme which you’re 100% right about makes me even sadder that they scrapped their 2d animation department. RIP Disney animation.
They’ve should’ve just made the Mufasa movie 2D. Not only because that’s what most people want nowadays but also because it would fit better with it being a prequel to Lion King. One of the best 2D animated movies of all time
I think part of the problem is the location of Disney studios in LA. South California seems very disconnected from what regular people want to see on screen, and a lot of the best movies to come out in recent years (Dune 2 for example) were filmed outside of LA, where directors and writers feel pressured to conform to the “Hollywood bubble”. TLDR; Hollywood needs to touch grass in order to understand their audience.
Nah the ppl in Cali hate these movies too, the problem is the close proximity to big names in the industry and in the desperation to make connections, ppl will keep their mouths shut about criticism and suck up to the ppl who make slip like this
My final straw with disney was when they canceled The Owl House because "it doesn't fit Daddy Walt's values :(" [even though magic and exploring and good characters is exactly what he would've wanted] then put up an She-Hulk ad where she's literally on Tinder. Disney would rather literally market sex-appeal to their tween/teen audience than show 2 girls falling in love with each other. The Disney magic is dead. "Encanto" and "The Barbarian" were both really good but one of those was made by a Hulu team. Dr Strange 2 flet like a giant commercial to sell more movies, meanwhile "Everything Everywhere" premiered that same month with the same premise and outshines it in literally every single way possible. I could go on... I'd love to hear longer rant videos from this channel though!
12:50, No Disney wasn't the first studio to create an animated cartoon with sound. Sound has been experimented with animation since the beginning so it's kind of hard to pin point who was the first to create an animated film with sound. But Fleisher Studios started including sound with their cartoons in the early 1920's with their Song Car-Tunes series before the release of Steamboat Willie in 1928. Steamboat Willie is the first animated film with synchronized sound.
I can already tell that the Lion Guard cartoon (following Simba's son and his friends as they protect their kingdom and overcome their own struggles) was better in every way then this Mufasa movie could ever dream of being. I was probably a bit too old for those cartoons when I first watched them, but they were a lot of fun. They also added a lot of interesting lore abt Scar and how he turned evil. I have a lot of fond memories of it.
The fact they made what is functionally a plot device a whole movie for his backstory is so mind blowing- His most remarkble scenes in the entire movie. Some of his only scenes in the ENTIRE. MOVIE. Is the “everything the light touches is our crib homie” scene and the scene where he DIES.
Oh nooooo. That actually makes me feel really sad. Like Moonlight was SO GOOD, and all he's greenlit to direct is this crap? After the La La Land slip up, this is like salt to the wound.
''And art is sort of like an endangered species and the big blockbuster makes it possible for people to gain more power and do better roles.'' ~ Sean Young
The sad part is that this might make them a good chunk of change. Not a soul will remember it, but it could squeeze the last drop of nostalgia from the og film has. Or we'll find out if they already used it all up.
It's not that they are out of ideas, but their ideas are being hindered from being progressive from fear of getting into some kind of trouble. There's a podcast that discussed this I recently watched. The Viking Samurai video (Why 80's movies were better). Get back with me and tell me what you think?
The Hunchback of Notre Dame gave me serious chills as a kid. It felt like the ‘90s renaissance would last forever. Who knew that would be peak Disney animation?
If they made a Mufasa prequel that was animated, not the "live action that's actually animated, but we're calling it live action" but the old style animation, I would maybe watch it. I'm at least more likely too than this taxidermy nightmare.
this video made me tear up. Disney's 80's-90's catalogue especially meant so fucking much to me as a little kid. The amount of inspiration I take from every in-between frame to every background in my own work is integral. And the fact the constant that they were that existed when I was young isn't there anymore is really sad. I'm so glad I grew up with them back then.
The vibe I got from this trailer was the same vibe I got when I saw trailers for Dumb and Dumber...er: When Harry Met Lloyd. A mixture of, "What? Why? Who cared?" And, "You just want more money, don't you?"
I was in a theater history class & we were going over Lion King. Suddenly the teacher started lecturing how Lion King was sexist & upheld the patriarchy using animals. I raised my hand & said “you mean the animal kingdom? Also did you not watch the film? We had Nala & Queen Surabi…” I go to a liberal arts school. Emphasis on liberal. Seeing the Lion King Retcon Mufas’s lineage immediately made me question if that decision was of the same vain of what I heard in class. I said to myself if any of these kids take these things to heart & get into Hollywood entertainment is screwed.
If I was tasked with a mufasa backstory I'd focus on making the rift between scar and him. Make their dad sow competition between them and he chooses mufasa so scar gets jelly or somthing idfk. Give scar a proper name before scar like Mdogo or some sht. Scar trys to frame/kill mufasa or dad or mom or something and that's how he gets banished and called scar. Make his only friend a hyena. Make mufasa kind in spite of his dad or something and make scar mufasas foil. This took me 10 min
Did you know that the first animated cartoon with sound was not made by Disney, but by Max Fleischer? In May 1924, Fleischer created "Follow the Bouncing Ball," a simple follow-the-ball animation set to music. It was four years before Disney's "Steamboat Willie" was released in November 1928.
The travesty is that they change the existing lore. The Lion King had expanded book and comic lore that already established Mufasa's backstory. He and Scar (who was named Taka before his injury) were cubs of Ahadi. It's annoying how Disney just fucks over all the existing lore. Just like with Star Wars.
Love how Disney slowed down their release schedule this year to "fix things" and it's already obvious the movies they're gonna release are gonna be flops too.
Never was a fan of the Renaissance for reasons of my own that I won't go into. However, Even I can see how much better they were then than they are now by a wide margin.
Ug this hearts my heart. I have been totally disinterested in movies at all. Every freaking thing is either a remake or a pseudo remake. Lyrics are lazy. Music is lazy. Safe safe safe. Don’t step on anyone’s toes. Don’t offend anyone at all. Don’t show creepy villains. Like jafar and frollo were yuuuuck. On purpose!!!! That was their role, to be absolutely despicable! Idk it’s just sad. I think it will take another studio coming in to shake things up. Good story telling and animation is out there. Look at Avatar the Last air bender. We need more people to come in and create real art again.
I rewatched the original 1998 version of Mulan a few days ago and all I could think the entire time was: 1. holy hell… 2. Disney DO NOT make movies like this anymore.
Thank you for your praise of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I can't imagine why any would say anything negative about that epic film. Was so moved by it I went to see it four times in the theater.
I missed the old disney, not that I am a nostalgic fan or else, but I miss when disney took risks, experiment new themes or wasn't much afraid to show some stuff that couldn't be in a children movie, but a family movie. Heck, with the money thay have they could experiment in so much things, but they prefer to flop over the same milked ip
It's crazy that we can really tell when a film has passion behind it and love from the creators, and and it lacks it. But we really can, whatever it is, terrible writing and visuals or something deeper.
Wow. I felt like I would have been actually okay with this, if they made this a 2D animated series. Kind of like Lion Guard maybe? But with a much higher budget for animation, music, character designs and backgrounds ect. Because as much as we do love Mufasa and Scar as characters, I feel like more of their potential could be fleshed out in a tv series.
Direct quote from the original movie: "Let me tell you something my father told me once." Granted, it could be the adoptive father, but I highly doubt it was meant that way. Also, aren't there like a bunch of books that are semi-canon that already talk about Mufasa and Scar's life and relationship as cubs?
Disney needs to leave this franchise alone: after releasing three films (one of which is called 'The lion king 1 and a half' which nobody clearly wanted) and two series that carry the same energy as 'Megamind VS the Doom Syndicate', there's writing on the wall emphasising their complacent and short-term way of running the company.
i just found yr channel from a recommendation, yr harley quinn video made me sob with nostalgia of the harley i lost to time- the harley i didnt realize was ripped from us, now yr rekindling my love of disney- we shouldnt feel ashamed of the things we enjoy because of corporations ruining our interpretations ♥️
I believe Dosney and Co. are just looking up fanfiction tropes and fanmade character studies and just going: This one! This is what the fans want. Clearly.
This could be cool if it was animated like the original movie. Not because I care about Mufasa. But because Scar is way more interesting and you could get a backstory on how he became evil
@@cosmicspacething3474just seems pointless to spend a movie getting us invested in a character when we know their story does NOT end well. Unless they end the movie with his death, how can you make the audience satisfied with a good ending when we already know what happens afterward?? Unless they go the unconventional route and try to say something about death, mortality, and the nihilism of life in general, which they won’t do.
I too wa recently at the cinema, to watch an origin story for the next generation of Apes from the Planet thereof, and was subjected to a trailer for an origin story for the Transformers, where they crack wise, skate around, scream a lot and sound like teenagers. That, plus Mufasa, has me screaming about how not EVERYTHING needs an origin story.
THANK YOU, as somebody who is also a film and animation fan...I too am so tired of these soulless Disney "live action" ripoffs being created because a lot of them do nothing new with the source material and they are just flat out soulless like you said. Disney used to be this absolute powerhouse for animation and created so many GOATed movies like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King (the GOOD ANIMATED ONE), and so much more. The sequels to said films are one thing....at least an attempt at a story was kind of made...nowadays no attempts are being made. It really is said to see how far Disney has fallen. This being said by a Disney fan.
I remember as a kid how much hype TLK was. I remember, too, that there were rumors of a prequel exploring Mufasa and Scar's pasts (my friend and I mostly wanted _Scar's_ backstory, he being a tragic villain type). IIRC, my friend printed out a whole fan-made play script about it (but I don't remember any details). And there was already an established backstory, which was released by Grolier Books, _A Tale of Two Brothers,_ depicting some events of their subadult years, mainly about how Scar got his scar and thus his nickname. It's a real shame that it has now been thoroughly retconned.
I want to save Disney. I have no doubt that there are many that want to do the same thing. I want my stories to be one of many things that could save Disney and bring back their ability to tell good stories, and be cherishable again, even if they have to resort back to what is considered obsolete methods of animation, cinematography, music, etc.
There is one correction I'd like to make, and that is that Steamboat Willie is not the first cartoon to incorporate synchronized sound into it, and Disney was not the first to do it, that credit goes to Fleischer Studios with the cartoon "My Old Kentucky Home", otherwise, yeah Disney was absolutely a pioneer in animation and the downfall we have is honestly really sad
It does take a lot of serious hard work with intense amount of passion from every member in the collective, including the higher ups, to be making soulful Disney movies again where it speaks to the hearts of the audiences, even when they're facing a lot of risks. They do have an opportunity to be in line with the same attitude Disney once had, but I think it does require them to not be so focused on making profit or capitilizing on popular franchises. It's too safe. Old Disney never made the renaissance films because there was a proven formula to follow, except making passionate quality films while making an original spin out of old fairy tales. That was even true during 2010s with Tangled and Frozen.
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish already looks so nostalgic because of just how vibrant and artistic everything looks, and that film was released 2 years ago
What are you doing there? C O N S U M E!
Shill/Sell out - "Don't ask questions, just get excited and consume next product..." 😂
Yes, mistress... I Obey
I might be in the minority here, but I have always hated the Moana movie.
@@bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 me with you.
nice, but never really excited me.
@@RegularJStudios2.0 defending this movie doesn´t make anyone a shill grow up
I just love that a movie with 100% cg characters refers to itself as "live action "
'Reanimated an animation' but with no colour and shit scenery, make it make sense.
Yeah, I don't like that either. It's ridiculous, and I wouldn't even want it to be "live action". I want an animated Lion King movie, even if it is 3D.
My high school made an infinitely better live action lion king in the form of their musical play. They got really creative and stylized with the costumes.
This isn’t live action. It just sucks.
Meanwhile Surfs Up did it all first 💀
You're so right, real lions would gave been better, might have made the movie more colourful too with specifically red.
Scar himself implies they're biologically brothers when he mentions that mufassa got the lions share of the brawn
Not to mention they have already released the history of them. They have already revealed yes they are brothers and scar wasn't his real name. They named him the Swahili word for trash which is worse when you think about the fact that mufasa is Swahili for King. Yes I might have been curious about their parents and how could they name their children King and trash but they didn't even do that in this movie. They just made a backstory movie that doesn't even make sense as a background for the movie
@@LeadrynMcKrotch I hate that they didn't make the movie based around what was already established, and instead went for non-sensical shit for the characters. A movie being done in the old Disney fashion with a tale of a strained brother bond would've been so much better and tragic to watch then, "Look, he was an orphan! Join this epic adventure of how this cub somehow manages to be an heir to the throne to a lineage he shares no blood with!" since it feels like they're going to make a Mary Sue out of him.
@@LeadrynMcKrotch The fact that they kept his name as Taka despite blatantly disregarding the rest of that book makes its inclusion so pointless
Simba even called Scar “uncle”
@@LeadrynMcKrotch It would have made so much more sense if they stuck with that canon. Like it would make sense why Scar rebels against him in youth bc of their parent's mistreatment. Maybe Mufasa knowing it wasn't right would decide for forgive him once, leading to his later downfall in LK...
In the 90's, at best this would have been a Saturday morning cartoon spinoff, and at worst, a bargain bin direct to VHS throw away. Today, it's advertised as a blockbuster event. One of the biggest crimes of all is that Disney, the grandfather of 2d American animation and storytelling, has reached senility and forgotten how to make art.
@@Anthonycheesman33 those movies were more experimental, the jungle book one had an adult mowgli and admittedly only the 101 dalmation had some success and if they did do a 101 remake in the here and now they would likely have the animals speak. those remakes didn't start the trend the remakes movies in general in the 90s and 2000s were kind of just a thing possibly may have garnished a niche following some of the most iconic movies are remakes like 50s 10 commandment but you can never be sure if that happens. Post alice was the trend where it's just copy paste especially beauty and the beast onwards where they do make questionable changes some of it is technical like editing, sound, lighting, CGI a long with struggling on justifying existence and heck with Aladdin they wasted an opportunity with the credits being a slap in the face
@@Anthonycheesman33 ... In fairness... the 90s Jungle Book movie was exactly as @PhilRiveraMedia described though right? A bargain bin direct to VHS throw away... that's what it was.
While the Glenn Close version of Dalmatians was not straight to video... it received the exact same criticism that all the modern stuff is getting... bland hollow pointless etc...
Point being... you don't just go from awesome ====> suck at the flip of a switch... it's an evolution. One could argue that the making of those movies was just a precursor for events to come ;-)
Dude, 90s Disney spinoffs were banging. Aladdin, Hercules, Buzz Lightyear, those were all great. I would love for Disney to go back to making those kinds of spinoff. Hell, when Lightyear came out I was constantly wondering why it wasn't like the Buzz Lightyear spinoff that was already great!
Saturday morning cartoons don't seem to be popular at the moment.
@@Anthonycheesman33 Fun Fact: The 1994 live action Jungle Book was directed by Stephen Sommer who of course directed Deep Rising, The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, Van Helsing, and G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
This "Remake" era is way worse then the "Sequel" era was in the early 2000s.
At least the sequels was in traditional 2D animation, and not nearly as expensive to make, and where not being treated as big amazing deals. Just cheap cash grabs that some of which actually had some heart.
As someone who grew up with those DTV Disney Sequels, I greatly agree with you.
I've heard that Cinderella 3 was actually amazing and one of the few decent sequels from that era.
Mulan 2 was nonsensical as it preached marry who you love, despite the fact that the women had to marry the princes, because otherwise the Mongols would vaporize China.
@@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. Cinderella 3 is really good. So is 101 Dalmatians 2, Bambi 2, The Lion King 2, and The Lion King 1/2 are both great in there own ways. The Jungle Book 2 is fun. Lilo and Stitch 2 is sweet. Peter Pan 2 is actually really good. Though that one did have a theatrical release if I remember correctly.
@@Cattensu Wasn't Bambi 2 more of a interquel and not a true sequel?
@@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. yes, it is an interquel. But still has 2 in the name. Never understood that. Guess giving it a subtitle instead was not in the cards.
Same with Tarzan 2.
But they are still counted among the sequels. And they did come out in that era.
Can't wait for the part where Mufasa gets lost in the wilderness, and befriends Timane the weasel and Rumbaa the boar.
The voice actors from the 2019 movies are in the new one so apart from a storytelling device idk how that’s gonna work
You forgot to include that Timane is a trans autistic and handicapped weasel on one leg and Rumbaa is gay and has social anxiety, depression, and agoraphobia. Because that's what everything is about nowadays.
And they are in gay relationship!
I laughed so hard at this, omg
The weasel?? XDD
I don’t think it’s a lack of creativity. It’s fucking corporate executives strangling it to death. Wish was a boring movie. But its concepts are so interesting and fun.
They don't care anymore. It's just about money now.
So much this. The execs are the problem, not the creatives.
@@whitneykelley3580
It's both being shit.
@itsjustmaddisen the CEOs have always been like that.
@@ursidae97 sure, it's just super obvious here lol.
The Lion King (1994) is like a painting that an artist slaved over for months, meticulously sketching, coloring, selecting and mixing pigments, because they had a clear vision of something in their mind that they felt was worth showing to the world.
The Lion King (2019) is like a really badly-taken photograph of that same painting, with awful lighting and so many smudges on the camera lens that you can barely tell what you're looking at. That photographer has absolutely no right to get upset when people prefer the original painting to their terrible photo.
I agree. The original 1994 animated Lion King movie is so creative, charming, epic, exciting, beautiful looking, had a magnificent animation, amazing music, great characters, awesome villains, and chemistry. But the 2019 live action Lion King movie is nothing but a cash grab similar to most films directed by Michael Bay. Despite good special effects, the 2019 Lion King was a terrible mess. It has no chemistry, no emotions, no excitement, no facial expressions, no nothing.
In fairness... National geographic had truly fantastic artists behind the lens, and animation was art, the bastardization of Live action realization loses the best artists from both mediums in translation as they lack real creatures to capture through cinematography and are limited by "realism" in animation.
More like lion king 2019 is like watching animators being forced to jump through fire in a circus
The 2019 is the AI-generated version of it.
The fact that they owned PIXAR, fucking PIXAR and they ruined that studio too is absolutely criminal. Iger should be in jail.
Disney have destroyed Star Wars and Marvel to😩😩😩
@@Ririland-officialin fairness Marvel was in a bad place before Disney bought them, up until Endgame Disney buying them out was a great thing.
Pixar actually still has its charm and greatness. They are still delivering original stories with impressive and awesome visuals. Majority of their movies are still amazing and great and had positive and critical acclaim scores on Rotten Tomatoes. Inside Out 2 could work as a sequel since it focuses on Riley's teenage life and Elio might be a blockbuster hit once again. You guys need to have an open mind and not full on hatered and bias all the time. You guys need to chill out understand. ☺️☺️
@@kevzsabz8253 to be clear personally I don't really hate Disney that much, but their standards HAVE dropped, even Pixar movies aren't that great, Soul felt mid but honestly I chalk that up to not being in their target demographic, but "Onward" is pretty close to my strike zone as far as themes go... Yet it's nowhere near an "Up". "Elemental" is also pretty mid the only real saving grace are the more unique themes award shows love.
Marvel jumped the shark after Endgame, not "everything" was bad but whene every other thing is a traincrash that refuses to correct course while making the train longer it's a problem... SW... I just can't even start on how bad it is to BS continue an incoherent universe half cocked without a plan or vision.
@@michaellane5381 I understand Sir Michael. I have to defend Pixar though because of consistency and quality of their films. I have to agree with you a bit when you said "I chalk that up to not being their target demographic" because i think the explanation for that is that every Pixar movie has its target Demographic actually. Turning Red for example the film's target demographic its obviously for Asians, Teenagers and Women/Girls. Thats the reason why a lot of female reactors that I've seen that watch the film has said that after they watch the film it became very relatable to them. For the the Marvel movies and series i have to agree with you a lot on that one i think it went downhill after Endgame unfortunately Sir Michael. ☺️☺️
Lions don't adopt. An adult male lion kills cubs that aren't his.
they also don’t typically talk, i don’t think Disney is strictly factual
@@rachelsloan1922 If you don't care about anything to do with lions when making your lion movie, just make it follow fictional creatures instead, then it's not factual at all!
@@rachelsloan1922 obsessed with this reply
@@rachelsloan1922they also don’t make uncanny human-like face expressions
@@rachelsloan1922They actually did their research on lion’s behavior for the original movies
The original Lion KIng has Mufasa directly say to Simba "let me tell you something that my father told me. Look at the stars. The great kings of the past look down at us from those stars. So whenever you feel alone, just remember that those kings will always be there to guide you. And so will I."
But I guess all of that was a lie, huh?
I bet you a $1 they don’t even watch the original movies anymore, they just go off of memory.
Idk know why they are doing this whole “you love the original, then your gonna like this remake except get this.. we changed the og story and butchered its cohesive story. Your welcome”
Like ??? How is nobody in the room saying this is a bad idea.
@@flowerbloom5782 they're just looking at how much money the live action remake made lol, nothing else matters.
Just.... I have no words to describe just how great that line is. And that clip of Mufasa falling to his death and Simba's screaming "NOOOOOO!!!" still gives me chills, it's so friggin' good. And Jeremy Irons' delivery of "Long live the king," is just... holy shit, bone-chilling.
There are so many moments from the original animated Lion King film that the trash remake and its trash prequel can't ever take away.
Also, imagine the hype if this Mufasa film were in 2D animation. I've seen so many redraws of the scenes in the trailer, and they look way better than the CGI garbage in the trailer. Mufasa was the legitimate heir to the throne, Scar was his biological younger brother next in line until Simba came along... Hell, Scar literally said it himself!
Like, there's just no way Mufasa was adopted. Just no.
Aslan the lion from Narnia had more expression and charm than live-action Simba and Scar. Their fur looks dirty, they got dead eyes. Nothing about them is colorful or interresting. They are so boring! Aslan has a charming voice, big eyes and his fur looked soft. I know he doesn't exist but find him intriguing and entertaining 😀Did he had a family? Was he the first talking animal in this kingdom? Simba had no emotions in his face and voice, i don't want to follow his adventures.
Aslan is literally Jesus Christ as He would appear in Narnia. He’s the king and creator of that realm, so yes- Aslan would be the first of the talking animals there
Narnia is best franchise for Disney They can easily earn billions by making beautiful animation of it. But nope they r not interested.
The right is with Netflix but I don't see them doing anything with it. So Disney just take it!
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Amazing!
Exactly
Aslan’s animation looks amazing tbh, especially considering the movie is kinda old
Whats frustrating is that we already HAVE an established canon. We already know about Mufasa and Scar.
Scar implies IN THE FIRST MOVIE, that genetics wise, Mufasa got the brawn and Scar got the brain. He implies they're related.
This shit is so sad because there's 0 thought put into it.
They also have an established backstory if I remember correctly. Just make an animated adaptation of that
Which is why so many people found the Kiara/Kovu romance vaguely creepy, as they are implied to be cousins.
The best moment of the movie is going to be Scar revealing that he is Simba's father... yeah...
Dude, stop, they're too dumb to think that's a joke.
OH GOD 😭🤢
Actually I like that...
at least that might be interesting
Doesn’t Simba’s daughter canonically end up with Scar’s son or something?
We are staring into the cold dead eyes of capitalism. Ain't no fall from grace. The artists are as passionate as ever, the ceos are as sociopathic as ever.
Cronyism*. It's a very common mistake, peddled by those want to dismantle true capitalism
@@reniefuwa shut your mouth
@@reniefuwa Cronyism is true capitalism. Regulated capitalism is not. The entire POINT of "true capitalism" is to suck up as much wealth and capital as you can for as little as you can.
how did they make the original lion king unless they were a better company then?
@@reniefuwa 💯
Mufasa's (the movie) color palette is literally a sad beige mom who devoids their children of color. If this movie is aimed at children and their nostalgic parents, they need rich, vibrant colors! I remember having a lion king beach towel and sleeping bag when I was kid and tableware all drenched in bright colors!! It also is very heartbreaking to see a studio I love just fall like this. I remember going to every Disney animated movie release, and now I just don't bother watching even on Disney+
Agreed! When I think of The Lion King, I think of how intensely yellow and sunny and happy Simba is as a cub, how his mane grows to the exact same shade of red as his father, the toxic violent green-ness of Be Prepared, the deep blue of Simba looking up at the stars. Now it's just like... a boring wash of brown. Which sucks, because Africa has some truly gorgeous sights full of vibrancy and colors!
@@briandaaranda9735Right? It’s too bad they didn’t go in that direction by animating Mufasa and leaning heavily into the latest animation stylings while amping up traditional African colors and patterns, almost like a more elegant painterly version of Madagascar’s animation. That alone would cover the sins of a shallow plot.
@@briandaaranda9735 It’s like Disney learned “realism” from the Xbox 360 generation-the single ugliest generation of gaming.
and they say "but muh live action realism" (cgi lions on cgi background, but whatever) they forget africa irl has plenty of color. but its like even the sky is sad beige in the movie.
The recent live action remakes are giving "animation is for kids, so here's dull, live action nostalgia bait for you adults!" I hate it so much. It was the same with The Little Mermaid remake. So dark, so dull, it's almost depressing to look at. The Lion King (2019) and Mufasa just makes me feel as empty and void of color as the scenes are.
Let's just go all the way with Lion King.
I want a movie of Mufasa's grandpa, and I want there to be movies of every single last one of his ancestors until we get to the first amphibian to walk on land.
😂😂😂😂
If they did Scar or the bird it would have a better chance of being a good movie, Mufasa was always boring
@@VTWSimagine if they made a Scar movie and actually animated it in the style of the original Lion King. That *could* be pretty cool.
Funny you said that, because I just recently had a brainstorm idea that I wished Disney would hear out on.
It would be a miniseries that focuses on the history and timeline of the Pride Lands. Giving us more depth about the legacy of different prides and rulers who claimed the throne of Pride Rock.
It would also help answer questions or give us creative insights that help lead us to The Lion King. Like showing the banishment of the hyenas, how Scar got his scar, how did Rafiki come about, etc. And even better, it would be 2-D hand drawn animated. Sticking to the way The Lion King from 1994 was presented.
I even came up with a pretty cool title: "Pride Land Chronicles: Legends of The Lion King".
Honestly, if Disney was any smarter or even wanted a sense of remorse, they would consider this pretty solid idea over the garbage they're making now. But hey, this is Disney we're talking about- they lack creativity, they lack magic, and they don't listen to reason.
The Ichthyostega King
"Does the film need to exist?"
"No."
"Did anyone ask for it?"
"No."
"Can we make a tonne of money off it because of nostalgia?"
"Yes."
"Here's $100,000,000,000,000, make us rich already!"
The new Disney philosophy
*film doesn’t make money*
“Who can we blame?”
“Well the audience was supposed to pay us money but they didn’t so obviously the audience”
“Wtf audience?!”
“Hay uh, Disney…Do I need to come over and be blunt and brutally honest with you? Because I will”
But the lion guard Wass SO GOOD they can make good things if they wanted
"Was the Panderverse the cause of all this?"
"Yes."
"does the comment suck?"
"Yes."
MY philosophy!
#thePanderverseisreal
I would be excited if it wasn't in the charmless "realistic" style
The Mufasa prequel will lose the box office when it’s competing with Sonic the Hedgehog 3 coming this Christmas
Oh gosh, I'm hoping for it so badly
In other words, when we look at its numbers opening weekend, we'll get to say "You're too slow!"
i am hoping so hard for that
Can’t believe shadow the hedgehog killed Mufasa
i've been excited for sonic 3 since sonic 2's shadow reveal. i didn't even know this mufasa prequel was coming out before this video and i have no intention of watching it.
I'm so mad that the movies that NO ONE asked for get greenlit, yet the movies that people actually get excited about get canceled and written off for tax purposes. This isn't just creative bankruptcy, this is pure corporate greed.
That profile picture says everything
What showed me their creative bankruptcy was when they had to make a movie explaining the movie backstory about a freaking TOY in another movie.
Actually… they made a 2D Buzz Lightyear movie doing that in 2000. The difference being that that one was, ya know, good.
@@sethbrokmeier3744I still have it on VHS, I was obsessed with it when it came out 😂
Wait, Buzz Lightyear already had a movie? I knew they made a show (that Disney is pretending doesn't exist)
@@reniefuwa yeah it’s called Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command: the Adventure Begins it came out in 2000 I believe.
Nah, their creative bankruptcy was the fact they already did it. Buzz Lightyear the Animated Series, anyone? They could have gotten so much money by just adapting the tv series of the big screen. Feels like an actual cartoon for kids (like the OG movie) AND would be bringing in the old fanbase!
I'm surprised that Disney doesn't just go back to adapting folktales and the like, that is what that they were originally known for, and from a narrative perspective, it's a fairly safe approach. Nowadays, people are fairly familiar with the old classics, and Disney doesn't need to make any big changes since they already have a template to work with. Actually, up until "Frozen," their adaptations were fairly faithful.
Faithful but less depressing, which I honestly appreciated. You're right though that they should go back to adapting folktales, that was easily what they did best consistently
@@Akeyins Got any ideas on what they could work on?
@@ThePrincessCH my first thought was Japanese folktales like Urashima Taro, but after their horrible treatment of the Mulan live action I don't know if they should be trusted with the Japanese culture since they clearly don't care about that kind of thing anymore. They could also always go back to the Grimm fairytales and do something like The White Snake, The Seven Ravens, or even something that everyone knows like Little Red Riding Hood if they want to ensure people are interested.
There's genuinely so many options out there that I can't figure out why they don't do it anymore. It's baffling
@@Akeyins I was thinking more along the lines of "The Legend of the White Snake." It's a love story at its core, but the protagonist has a sort of adopted/foster sister. It would have been interesting to see a piece of media that explores the sibling bond alongside a romantic relationship.
@@ThePrincessCH oh, I love The Legend of the White Snake! Though honestly I really don't want Disney to touch it lol, partly because there's already an amazing adaptation of it, and also because I literally don't trust them with Chinese culture after the live action Mulan. I don't even want to imagine the ways they'd probably ruin it
I've never asked about Mufasa's backstory.
After seeing the trailer. I'm still not asking about mufasa's backstory.
Remakes and just unnecessary movies aside, Wish is also just a big glaring sign that the studio will scrap anything of true value.
The concept animatics for Wish and the art makes me so angry and sad for the creative people on that project who had to make a much worse version of their vision.
The baffling bad decisions Disneys higher up make are very much reflected that, I believe, 4 out 5 box office bombs were from Disney themselves.
They value no creativity, just dollar signs.
What makes it even funnier is that Mufasa and Scar WEREN'T brothers in earlier versions of the story. They deliberately chose to MAKE them brothers because it made Scar's betrayal more dramatic - this is also when they realized the similarities to Hamlet. This is also why Lion King 2 establishes numerous times that Kovu isn't Scar's son; he WAS earlier in production, but they realized this would make Kiara his cousin. So many creative choices in this franchise were contingent on them being related and it's laughable that they're trying to contradict this now.
Yet Simba and Napa hooking up is fine? Weird if you ask me
@@cosmicspacething3474they weren’t related
I closed the trailer at "a lion without a drop of royal blood" like please go to hell
Literally defeats the point of Simba being the rightful king
What
@@cosmicspacething3474 In the original Lion King, there's a line from Scar that implies they're blood-related by saying Mufasa got the brawns while he got the brains, and that blood-relation is confirmed by sources outside the original movie (the book "A Tale of Two Brothers" and the kids show "The Lion Guard"), saying Scar is the second-born cub.
Basically, whoever pitched this movie did not care enough do their research despite "Mufasa" being a prequel to the original.
This movie doesn't exist to me. Lion King, Lion King 2: Simba's Pride, and Lion King 1 1/2 are the only Lion King movies that exist, I don't want to hear about anything else that came after, especially the live action movies!
Okay, I liked the Timon & Pumbaa cartoon series too.
Tbf to 99% of people only the og movie exists lol. Aside from the Timon & Pumbaa series
@@VTWS True, but Lion King was one of the few Disney movies to get some pretty good sequels, which is why I only count the three Lion King movies and the Timon & Pumbaa series.
True. Since the lion guard, the Lion King isnt perfect anymore. ITS now ruined!
@@Simbala-bq5vytbh, I was kinda ok with the lion guard, I hate the live action stuff, though.
Oh you mean the show butch hartman claimed never to work on lmao
The problem is too many people still pay to see these products. As long as people keep watching them, they will continue to be made.
Unfortunately, those of us who care are a very small minority compared to the general public, which is of course what companies will pander to because they NEED people in theaters to turn a profit, and they need profit to make more movies. I just wish they did what they used to do and put their smaller, safer, cash-grab projects straight to streaming instead of trying to make them all big theatrical releases.
The Disney we grew up with in the 90s and before that has died. None of the original creators of the Disney renaissance exist or work at Disney studios anymore. Just the wretched executives and the culture obsessed people that only care about now instead of creating timeless classics.
It's not creative bankruptcy, but it is the fear of risk-taking, because risk-taking is always a gamble and easily makes the shareholders angry. That's why the shareholders insist on choosing a familiar and safer option instead of any risk in order to guarantee a more stable cash flow. So in shortly and other words, the system is broken. The same thing happened to Nokia, they were releasing touch screen smartphones and tablets years before Apple, but the shareholders were of the opinion that smartphones and tablets would never become the thing and made Nokia abandon the projects.
Damn. So that's what happened. My first phone was a Nokia.
Oh so modern stuff IS more boring
The same thing has been happening with video games, and then gems like Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 come out and prove that passion and risks are actually profitable. But the shareholders would rather have safe and mid games that are guaranteed to make money even if no one will remember them in a year 🙄 same with shows and film and music and every form of entertainment
I think this is the real answer, then Disney is truly going to fall completely in these film-making, too much on business and not on creativity. They have succeeded taking risks before, it makes no sense why they wouldn't now
If shareholders are a big part of the issue, is there at least something we can do about it?
Half of why you liked Hunchback is the music direction/composition, which is something I hadn’t thought about - when did Disney last put out a truly strong soundtrack?
Not since that Linn Manuela guy decided to coast, and as long as they have him in charge of music, it won't get any better.
The last one I actually remember is the original Moana soundtrack which was pretty solid imo
In spite of how overplayed it was, Encantos music was memorable for me.
@@angrytheclown801 Why is Lin Manuel a problem?
@@ThePrincessCH Because at least for me, his music sounds very samey when he starts coasting. He has his formula and when you've heard one song you've heard them all.
Honestly, I've lost all faith in Disney. And this is coming from a LIFELONG fan. First, it was how they started showing favoritism for Marvel and Star Wars over their own in-house works. Then it was the uninspired animated films they've been releasing since 2016. ("Wish" was just the final nail in the coffin.) Now they've confirmed that all their upcoming animated films in the near future will be sequels/prequels. (Yes, I'm counting "Mufasa" because I don't think it or the 2019 "Lion King" belong in the 'live-action remake' category.) I NEVER thought I'd say this but Disney, I'm done.
Lol just imagine getting an art degree and having a teacher praise the crap out of Disney? Yeah have no idea what to do now that not just Disney but other big animation studios are doing this….just not as bad….
@@Denebula549 My brother wants to work in animation and my mom has been telling him to aim for jobs at big studios like Disney or Illumination. He hates it lmao, indie animation's where it's at if you want to tell a story nowadays.
Like the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans etc all grand empires always fall.
Disney is a sad company now. A pathetic shadow of what it once was. An innovator, and leader. Now they are an ideologically bent, creatively bankrupted company thanks to Iger and folks like him. I don’t care if these films are filled with agenda or politics. Write them well for heavens sake. But I know these folks cannot admit fault and accept they’ve done wrong. It’s everyone else’s fault. Never their own. That and the audiences who don’t ask for better stuff. Call me petty but I look down on these folks just as much not for liking the stuff. But saying folks like me are just “haters”. I’d rather be a “hater” with standards and self awareness than a blind consumer.
I don’t think they ever cared about agendas. They just went along with the bare minimum representation to appeal to a broader audience. And make money.
Walt is screaming in his grave 😂😂😂
The Mufasa trailer and drab color scheme which you’re 100% right about makes me even sadder that they scrapped their 2d animation department. RIP Disney animation.
You put clips from the animated movie in there and it's like a glimpse into a wonderous lost world where there was some art to these things.
Plays two seconds of The Hunchback of Notre Dame: *VIOLENT CHILLS EVERYWHERE*
Point very well made.
They’ve should’ve just made the Mufasa movie 2D. Not only because that’s what most people want nowadays but also because it would fit better with it being a prequel to Lion King. One of the best 2D animated movies of all time
They want to deleted the animated one from existence. This is clearly a prequel for the “improved” live action version.
Somehow we got Aslan in The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe and now we're here... What the hell, Disney
I think part of the problem is the location of Disney studios in LA. South California seems very disconnected from what regular people want to see on screen, and a lot of the best movies to come out in recent years (Dune 2 for example) were filmed outside of LA, where directors and writers feel pressured to conform to the “Hollywood bubble”.
TLDR; Hollywood needs to touch grass in order to understand their audience.
The problem is that too many Hollyweird folks are Smokin/Eating/making Marijuana candy, instead.
California’s disconnected from the US in general.
I've never been so ashamed to be born there. I live in Sacremento now, but I don't know if we're more enlightened or I just got lucky.
Nah the ppl in Cali hate these movies too, the problem is the close proximity to big names in the industry and in the desperation to make connections, ppl will keep their mouths shut about criticism and suck up to the ppl who make slip like this
@@deannaabeyta1855 You live in CA?
My final straw with disney was when they canceled The Owl House because "it doesn't fit Daddy Walt's values :(" [even though magic and exploring and good characters is exactly what he would've wanted] then put up an She-Hulk ad where she's literally on Tinder. Disney would rather literally market sex-appeal to their tween/teen audience than show 2 girls falling in love with each other.
The Disney magic is dead. "Encanto" and "The Barbarian" were both really good but one of those was made by a Hulu team. Dr Strange 2 flet like a giant commercial to sell more movies, meanwhile "Everything Everywhere" premiered that same month with the same premise and outshines it in literally every single way possible. I could go on...
I'd love to hear longer rant videos from this channel though!
It is painful to look at Disney's recent lineup of films. The disconnect between the company and audiences is palpable.
12:50, No Disney wasn't the first studio to create an animated cartoon with sound. Sound has been experimented with animation since the beginning so it's kind of hard to pin point who was the first to create an animated film with sound. But Fleisher Studios started including sound with their cartoons in the early 1920's with their Song Car-Tunes series before the release of Steamboat Willie in 1928. Steamboat Willie is the first animated film with synchronized sound.
I can already tell that the Lion Guard cartoon (following Simba's son and his friends as they protect their kingdom and overcome their own struggles) was better in every way then this Mufasa movie could ever dream of being. I was probably a bit too old for those cartoons when I first watched them, but they were a lot of fun. They also added a lot of interesting lore abt Scar and how he turned evil. I have a lot of fond memories of it.
"It depressing seeing how far Disney has fallen"
Me who thinks it's hilarious: am I too nihilistic
Eh, I’d say it’s more absurdist since at least you feel there’s a point to it.
The fact they made what is functionally a plot device a whole movie for his backstory is so mind blowing-
His most remarkble scenes in the entire movie. Some of his only scenes in the ENTIRE. MOVIE. Is the “everything the light touches is our crib homie” scene and the scene where he DIES.
Srsly
@@MonkeyKingsNumber1Fan omg fellow monkey king fan
@@AKASunWukong IKKKKK I screamed when I saw your name 😂
@@MonkeyKingsNumber1Fan SAME OMG 😭
@@AKASunWukong LOL YES 😭GOOD POINT ABOUT MUFASA BTW
They're like Veruca Salt. Soiled, impatient, undisciplined toddlers who want loads of money but don't want to put in the work to earn any of it.
Veruca at least had the excuse of being a literal kid with bad parents.
Excellent take as always. Hunchback and Hercules are my two favorite Disney movies. I can only pray that they leave them alone.
Idk those could ACTUALLY work in live action, preferably if made darker. Much easier than making Lion King “live action” work
I think Hunchback could make a fantastic live action, but I would never trust Disney to do it
They have Hercules movie in development with a race-swapped main character.
Hercules live action has already been announced. Hercuoes a GREEK demigod, will be played by a black actor
@@EvripidouMI also think it's a strange choice that nobody wanted but. do you think black people were banned from Greece?
Mufasa is funnier when you realize the director (Barry Jenkins) directed Moonlight, a BEST PICTURE winning film
Oh nooooo. That actually makes me feel really sad. Like Moonlight was SO GOOD, and all he's greenlit to direct is this crap? After the La La Land slip up, this is like salt to the wound.
''And art is sort of like an endangered species and the big blockbuster makes it possible for people to gain more power and do better roles.''
~ Sean Young
It looks like an unfinished CG project💀, also your sarcasm is hilarious😂
This just makes me sad. Disney movies used to give me joy, now I generally avoid them because it's nothing burger remakes or unnecessary spinoffs.
And to add insult to injury Bob and pals have the audacity to blame the fans for their failures
The sad part is that this might make them a good chunk of change. Not a soul will remember it, but it could squeeze the last drop of nostalgia from the og film has. Or we'll find out if they already used it all up.
I think we've known Hollywood has been out of ideas for years now.
It's not that they are out of ideas, but their ideas are being hindered from being progressive from fear of getting into some kind of trouble. There's a podcast that discussed this I recently watched. The Viking Samurai video (Why 80's movies were better). Get back with me and tell me what you think?
The thousand yard stare lol ,
The Hunchback of Notre Dame gave me serious chills as a kid. It felt like the ‘90s renaissance would last forever. Who knew that would be peak Disney animation?
If they made a Mufasa prequel that was animated, not the "live action that's actually animated, but we're calling it live action" but the old style animation, I would maybe watch it.
I'm at least more likely too than this taxidermy nightmare.
this video made me tear up. Disney's 80's-90's catalogue especially meant so fucking much to me as a little kid. The amount of inspiration I take from every in-between frame to every background in my own work is integral. And the fact the constant that they were that existed when I was young isn't there anymore is really sad. I'm so glad I grew up with them back then.
I agree, something needs to be done instead of just shaming them.
WAS. Everything ends. There is a long list of great studios that just aren't great anymore. It happens.
The vibe I got from this trailer was the same vibe I got when I saw trailers for Dumb and Dumber...er: When Harry Met Lloyd. A mixture of, "What? Why? Who cared?" And, "You just want more money, don't you?"
That tiny clip of the og death scene legitimately made me emotional, I doubt those visual abominations will ever make anyone as emotional
I was in a theater history class & we were going over Lion King. Suddenly the teacher started lecturing how Lion King was sexist & upheld the patriarchy using animals. I raised my hand & said “you mean the animal kingdom? Also did you not watch the film? We had Nala & Queen Surabi…” I go to a liberal arts school. Emphasis on liberal. Seeing the Lion King Retcon Mufas’s lineage immediately made me question if that decision was of the same vain of what I heard in class. I said to myself if any of these kids take these things to heart & get into Hollywood entertainment is screwed.
Sounds like they just turned mufasa into loki
If I was tasked with a mufasa backstory I'd focus on making the rift between scar and him. Make their dad sow competition between them and he chooses mufasa so scar gets jelly or somthing idfk. Give scar a proper name before scar like Mdogo or some sht. Scar trys to frame/kill mufasa or dad or mom or something and that's how he gets banished and called scar. Make his only friend a hyena. Make mufasa kind in spite of his dad or something and make scar mufasas foil. This took me 10 min
I’m pretty sure there’s an official comic that is basically what you just said. Scar’s original name was Taka
It looks like disneys “the wild”
Did you know that the first animated cartoon with sound was not made by Disney, but by Max Fleischer? In May 1924, Fleischer created "Follow the Bouncing Ball," a simple follow-the-ball animation set to music. It was four years before Disney's "Steamboat Willie" was released in November 1928.
The travesty is that they change the existing lore.
The Lion King had expanded book and comic lore that already established Mufasa's backstory. He and Scar (who was named Taka before his injury) were cubs of Ahadi.
It's annoying how Disney just fucks over all the existing lore. Just like with Star Wars.
Yeah, couldn’t they have just made an adaptation of that?
Love how Disney slowed down their release schedule this year to "fix things" and it's already obvious the movies they're gonna release are gonna be flops too.
Never was a fan of the Renaissance for reasons of my own that I won't go into. However, Even I can see how much better they were then than they are now by a wide margin.
Ug this hearts my heart. I have been totally disinterested in movies at all. Every freaking thing is either a remake or a pseudo remake. Lyrics are lazy. Music is lazy. Safe safe safe. Don’t step on anyone’s toes. Don’t offend anyone at all. Don’t show creepy villains. Like jafar and frollo were yuuuuck. On purpose!!!! That was their role, to be absolutely despicable!
Idk it’s just sad. I think it will take another studio coming in to shake things up. Good story telling and animation is out there. Look at Avatar the Last air bender. We need more people to come in and create real art again.
The Mafasa trailer look like a documentary from the 80s
I rewatched the original 1998 version of Mulan a few days ago and all I could think the entire time was:
1. holy hell…
2. Disney DO NOT make movies like this anymore.
I think Disney forgot that The Lion King is a adaptation of Hamlet lmao
Which also adds to the 🤯😵💫🧐🤔 WTF factor of Mufasa being an orphan
Thank you for your praise of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I can't imagine why any would say anything negative about that epic film. Was so moved by it I went to see it four times in the theater.
i just noticed that the release date for this "movie" is the same as Sonic The Hedgehog 3
I missed the old disney, not that I am a nostalgic fan or else, but I miss when disney took risks, experiment new themes or wasn't much afraid to show some stuff that couldn't be in a children movie, but a family movie. Heck, with the money thay have they could experiment in so much things, but they prefer to flop over the same milked ip
It's crazy that we can really tell when a film has passion behind it and love from the creators, and and it lacks it. But we really can, whatever it is, terrible writing and visuals or something deeper.
Wow. I felt like I would have been actually okay with this, if they made this a 2D animated series. Kind of like Lion Guard maybe? But with a much higher budget for animation, music, character designs and backgrounds ect.
Because as much as we do love Mufasa and Scar as characters, I feel like more of their potential could be fleshed out in a tv series.
Does anyone remember that Timon and Pumbaa show where they worked a fast food job for some reason?
Direct quote from the original movie: "Let me tell you something my father told me once."
Granted, it could be the adoptive father, but I highly doubt it was meant that way. Also, aren't there like a bunch of books that are semi-canon that already talk about Mufasa and Scar's life and relationship as cubs?
Disney needs to leave this franchise alone: after releasing three films (one of which is called 'The lion king 1 and a half' which nobody clearly wanted) and two series that carry the same energy as 'Megamind VS the Doom Syndicate', there's writing on the wall emphasising their complacent and short-term way of running the company.
It just feels like this movie has no identity of its own. Somehow even less than the remake.
i just found yr channel from a recommendation, yr harley quinn video made me sob with nostalgia of the harley i lost to time- the harley i didnt realize was ripped from us, now yr rekindling my love of disney- we shouldnt feel ashamed of the things we enjoy because of corporations ruining our interpretations ♥️
I believe Dosney and Co. are just looking up fanfiction tropes and fanmade character studies and just going: This one! This is what the fans want. Clearly.
This could be cool if it was animated like the original movie. Not because I care about Mufasa. But because Scar is way more interesting and you could get a backstory on how he became evil
I mean if they had good writing, they could get us to care about Mufasa too
@@cosmicspacething3474just seems pointless to spend a movie getting us invested in a character when we know their story does NOT end well. Unless they end the movie with his death, how can you make the audience satisfied with a good ending when we already know what happens afterward?? Unless they go the unconventional route and try to say something about death, mortality, and the nihilism of life in general, which they won’t do.
I too wa recently at the cinema, to watch an origin story for the next generation of Apes from the Planet thereof, and was subjected to a trailer for an origin story for the Transformers, where they crack wise, skate around, scream a lot and sound like teenagers.
That, plus Mufasa, has me screaming about how not EVERYTHING needs an origin story.
I always thought Scar was the orphaned one, even in the original and 2019 remake.
THANK YOU, as somebody who is also a film and animation fan...I too am so tired of these soulless Disney "live action" ripoffs being created because a lot of them do nothing new with the source material and they are just flat out soulless like you said. Disney used to be this absolute powerhouse for animation and created so many GOATed movies like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King (the GOOD ANIMATED ONE), and so much more. The sequels to said films are one thing....at least an attempt at a story was kind of made...nowadays no attempts are being made. It really is said to see how far Disney has fallen. This being said by a Disney fan.
I remember as a kid how much hype TLK was. I remember, too, that there were rumors of a prequel exploring Mufasa and Scar's pasts (my friend and I mostly wanted _Scar's_ backstory, he being a tragic villain type). IIRC, my friend printed out a whole fan-made play script about it (but I don't remember any details). And there was already an established backstory, which was released by Grolier Books, _A Tale of Two Brothers,_ depicting some events of their subadult years, mainly about how Scar got his scar and thus his nickname. It's a real shame that it has now been thoroughly retconned.
Disney Won’t Change Unless Bob Iger Leaves I’d like to start a Movement #firebobiger
I want to save Disney.
I have no doubt that there are many that want to do the same thing.
I want my stories to be one of many things that could save Disney and bring back their ability to tell good stories, and be cherishable again, even if they have to resort back to what is considered obsolete methods of animation, cinematography, music, etc.
There is one correction I'd like to make, and that is that Steamboat Willie is not the first cartoon to incorporate synchronized sound into it, and Disney was not the first to do it, that credit goes to Fleischer Studios with the cartoon "My Old Kentucky Home", otherwise, yeah Disney was absolutely a pioneer in animation and the downfall we have is honestly really sad
It does take a lot of serious hard work with intense amount of passion from every member in the collective, including the higher ups, to be making soulful Disney movies again where it speaks to the hearts of the audiences, even when they're facing a lot of risks. They do have an opportunity to be in line with the same attitude Disney once had, but I think it does require them to not be so focused on making profit or capitilizing on popular franchises. It's too safe.
Old Disney never made the renaissance films because there was a proven formula to follow, except making passionate quality films while making an original spin out of old fairy tales. That was even true during 2010s with Tangled and Frozen.
we truly live in dark times
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish already looks so nostalgic because of just how vibrant and artistic everything looks, and that film was released 2 years ago
It took me a while to realize her sarcasm in the beginning 😂
Mufasa may have been King in 1994, but Shadow will be the new king for 2024. I can't wait for Sonic 3 to blow this film out of the water