There's never been a Seiko with hands that move like this.
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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I've never seen a Seiko with hands like this. I've actually never seen any watch with hands like this. It's not just a fun watch, I actually think it's beautiful too.
This is the recent Seiko SMW006A, pretty sure these are a 2022 release. Do a Google for Seiko 'SMW' to see all the many flavors. There are 6 'standard' models like mine, and another 4 'casual' versions.
The Japanese Seiko page on these seems to be here:
mirai-sougaku.jp/
I bought mine on eBay but there seem to be a handful of sources for these weird JDM nuggets. And as Seiko says, 'Why don't you spend your days happily and comfortably by wearing the rhythm with a metronome watch?'
I've uploaded a followup video with some clarifications. The tuner mode has zilch to do with the metronome mode. Pressing the upper left 'sound' button in tuner mode generates tones that change with the different settings.
I mistakenly refer to the minute hand as the hour hand, and the hour hand as both the minute and second hand. Again - neither a professional musician _nor_ a professional video creator.
440Hz is also A above middle C. I think 30 people have let me know now. I've received the message.
dont worry about ti you did a great job and i wouldnt know this wach exists if you didnt make this video
I hope you’re not too hard on yourself- I enjoyed the vid, it was delivered charmingly, and made me subscribe to your channel. So a job well done I say! And your honesty gives you a very high score from me… curious to see more content from you😊
I still love ur vid 😊
Hey, whats the lug width for straps replacement on this.
@@dantan1098 18mm
I'm a clarinetist. I just decided to buy one in 5 minutes. This was made for me ! Thanks for sharing !
Awesome. Curious, are you actually going to use it as a metronome or is it just a novelty to you?
@@joshuapinter Mainly as a cool watch, but I might use it as a metronome (nowadays, if you have a phone, you have a metronome) so there are no situations really where I would NEED it. Nevertheless, it is a very functional metronome and tuning tool so it might serve me. Also, I find it nice since I wear watches to not use my phone as much as I used to, so that's another way I can limit my screen time, even if for such an occasional use.
What makes it very cool for a clarinetist is that the most commonly played clarinet is tuned Bb (that is, if you play a C on the clarinet, really it plays a Bb, if that makes sense for a non-musician). You could tune to any note really, that's just a nice thing to have.
Great for alot of people
quick question just out of curiosity do you think this is helpful for another instrument like a pianist
@@kelvinini Yes, of course you can tune any instrument with this.
As a musician and watch geek this seriously scratched my itch for finding my next watch, thank you so much for putting this watch out there for all to see!
Same goes for me.. instantly fell in love for it
Oh yeah, plus one here! I gotta get me one of those.
And then keep using the metronome app on my phone.
But, seriously, how cool is this?
What’s more , being Italian, I can rejoice at seeing the tempo markings in my own language.
Imagine this being mechanic....
@@rachidvanheyningen would be bigger than your fist
@@rachidvanheyningen well.......the price would be a handsome penny.
5:30 Middle C is 256 Hz. 440 Hz is an A above middle C. It is the most common standard for tuning instruments, that’s why 440 is one of the frequencies shown on the watch at the top right. And at top left, A and Bb are the most common tunings.
Fun fact: The US time and frequency station WWV broadcasts a 440 Hz signal at two minutes past every hour, with WWVH broadcasting the same tone at the first minute past every hour. This was added in 1936 to aid orchestras in tuning their instruments.
Er... no, 256Hz C is physics. In music it would be 220 * (6 / 5) = 264Hz for just intonation and 220 * 2 ^ (1/4) = 261.62Hz for equal temperament if A is 440/220Hz [edit for detail: 2^(1/4) because it's 3 (3 semitones) times the 12th root of 2 --- the factor which raised to the 12th power doubles the frequecy (an octave is 12 semitones). The 6/5 is from the harmonic series. If we call a low F 1 the we get F=1, f=2, c=3, f'=4, a'=5, c'=6 so c'/a' = 6/5 ]
The BBC have been broadcasting the B5 tone for 90 years+ Was chosen B5 note as the easiest distinguished even in the worst reception which was important for the World Service which many people rely on the "pips" for timekeeping across the globe. In WW2 the pips became very important for resistance groups and military units like pilots or ship captains to calibrate their chronometers.
The A and the Bflat setting are a large range adjustment and the 440 (standard), 442(concert) and 443 are fine adjustment to align harmonics of the chirp chirp chirp thingy so the little squeaker won't disturb the piece of music being played with a discordant pitch. Really is quite a fancy gadget.
@@billeterk you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
Okay, I've never really been a seiko guy but this is really next fucking level in terms of creativity. Sure it's a bit weird, but that's how you stand apart in the watchmaking world
They make watches for all kinds of stuff, dress,casual,divers, serious divers, military, and even space,.some are very collectible and rare.. after Swiss, it would be seiko, in the last few weeks mines appreciated. Have a good day.
My first watch was an omega deville. Very slim body basic hour and minute. My current is a Seiko with date and seconds and also a stopwatch function. Chrome with a cream face and black dials. Illuminated dials too. Needs a service though and I haven't had the money to get it looked at lately
This is the coolest watch I've seen in years and it's also good looking. Seiko has a ton of hidden gems.
Very classic and vintage looking. It has a nautical feel to it
It’s also technically brilliant when the backs off, watch them work, really good.
As a musician and watch lover...totally surprised a watch like this exists and that too from respectable Seiko.
Right I had no idea this existed until it popped up on my RUclips feed recently. Super cool as a guitar player and a guy into watches 👍🏻
One reason for the surprise here is that , If I'm not mistaken, it's not marketed by Seiko Watch Corp but by SII, Seiko Instruments, the moment and instruments division. I love it too.
I use a metronome as a aid for sleeping when the anxiety gets me.
If you set it at about 56 BPM then breath out for 8 beats and in for say 6 you will bring your heart beat down and fall asleep.
You can also do this visually when you don't want to sleep but need to be calmed.
thats cool
Other musicians have already clarified almost all the musical features of the watch.
However, to thank you for this great review of a great watch that now I have to get ABSOLUTELY, let me just translate the time markings, which are in Italian.
In standard, modern Italian:
- Grave- this has nothing to do with burials and can mean “serious”, “solemn”, “heavy” (not of weight, but of matters/responsibilities/…), “deep pitched” or, as a noun, in physics, “heavy body-object “
- Largo means wide/ broad. Tempo-wise it’s very slow
- Larghetto- the “etto” ending is diminutive (e.g. casa- house; casetta- small house ) thus not as slow as largo
- Larghissimo is a superlative. In standard italian-as wide as it gets; in music- as slow as it gets
- Lento- means… slow !
- Adagio- another way to say slow, but it means “at (your) ease”. So not as slow as “lento”
- Adagietto - see “larghetto “
- Andante means “something that goes”, in music “at walking pace”
- Andantino - another diminutive suffix “-ino”: just like larghETTO, this means a bit faster than “andante”
- Moderato- moderate as in the things of life, so in music
- Allegro means joyful, happy… so … faster!
- Allegretto…. Not so fast
- Allegrissimo, as in “larghissimo”- very fast
- Vivace , usually used to describe children or particularly energetic beings or situations- means lively
- Vivacissimo - very very fast, man!
- Presto - this means “early” or “hurry”!
- Prestissimo- as fast as it gets. And then some
I gotta get me one of these seikos.
And then continue using my smartphone metronome app…
Still, how cool is this watch?!
Thanks for the review!
Works fine for a metronome, the tuning note is nice. As a musician I'd use one. Middle C is not 440hz, A above middle C is 440hz
Actually, A is 440Hz.
@@pokerpig9069 this is what the above user said
Hi. I have been a professional instrumentalist since 1985. Here is your explanation…
Okay, this is a standard set of functions for a metronome/tuner. It is not for individual practice but is to be used as more of a *reference* in an ensemble rehearsal or possibly a performance.
• Metronome Function - You seem to get this one. It is far too soft to use while you are playing. However, this normally would be used in a rehearsal when checking a tempo before starting to play. Perhaps a brass quintet is about to sightread a piece and they want a definite tempo before commencing. Perfect! You don't have to have your phone or an actual metronome on your stand. Just quickly reference your watch. (You would use this while wearing it.)
• Tuner Function - This one is a lot more arcane for a non-musician. In the US we use the standard of A above middle C tuned to 440 Hz. This was settled way back in the mid-1920s, pretty much everywhere on the planet. Prior to that, we had two standards. Instruments were built to both, with some being able to be adjusted to work in both standards. It was a royal PITA. So a standard was set. Currently, most professionals in the US use 440, but many have moved on to 442 (which is almost imperceptibly higher for a layperson, but it makes a difference to us). In Europe, many orchestras tune between 440 and 444 Hz. The standard that seems to be taking hold is 443 Hz with 442 being very commonly used. Now, what is confusing you about this watch's settings is that we refer to these as "440 pitch" or "440 tuning" with the "A" sort of partially divorced from the language, despite being implied. The common note we tune to is - duh - "A" - unless you are in a wind band, like a high school concert or marching band. In those groups, the tuning pitch is generally a Bb (B flat) or sometimes an F. So for this to be a really usable tuner it needs to be able to sound either a Bb or an A, so that is the choice on the left. And you have to set the watch to sound a Bb or an A in one of the three "A=" tuning levels of 440, 442, or 443 Hz. As with the metronome, it is FAR TOO SOFT to use as a sustained drone for others to tune to, but it makes an excellent quick reference pitch for one person to then play for the others in a group. (An example of tuning standards currently in use: A=415 Hz is frequently used in baroque ensembles that play in instruments made back at that time. It is nearly a half step lower than the pitch standards used today on modern instruments. If you tune a baroque violin to 442 without having it torn apart and reinforced internally you can warp or break the neck. It is that much lower than today. A tuba tuned at the factory to 442 will need a main tuning slide that is about four inches longer to be able to tune down to 440 in the US.)
I hope this helps you out. Oh, and yes, the tempi ranges on the dial are in Italian, as are most Western musical terms. These are based on the first successful metronome, the tempi being determined by a mathematical formula so that not every number is used. (Example: 72 76 80 84 88 92 96 100…) This is an old tradition used by classical musicians. Modern composers will just write whatever tempo they want, and frequently a metronome will not have it available. Digital ones always have every number in the range, but older ones do not. This watch is a nice tribute to "real" tempi.
Two points: a) this watch is weird in that most professional musicians needing a metronome use one attached to their lectern. It incidentally makes a nice page blocker so that pesky sheet music doesn't change page without warning. b) Grammar nazi time ! Plural of tempo is tempos. Tempi would be if you were speaking latin, which we are not. Grammar rules are those of the language spoken, not of the language of origin of a word. Besides, depending of whether the word is the subject and the grammatical tense, it could also endup as tempum. :D I know "Tempi" is widely used but it is a mistake.
Nice essay.
I love the creativity, I just have one nit. A mechanical metronome (which is what this is modelling) doesn't click in the middle of the arc-swing, it clicks at the ends
I think it’s one of the best Seiko watches I have seen. I don’t care for thick large clunky watches.
Plus I’m a musician. Very well done folks. Simple,elegant beautiful..
this is so cool, i thought this sort of unusual complications were a thing of the past, good job seiko for trying new things and thanks for sharing this with us!
it looks like the perfect gift for your musician friend!
Yeah not sure you could of had a Metronome Watch in the past,but please don't take that as a Beat down.
I always loved the old "tool watches" with functions other than timing.
I would love to have a Casio UV-Check, so cool ( and nice for southern hemisphere)
As a musician, and watch geek, this went straight to the top of my want list.
A few things:
440Hz is fairly universally consider a standard ‘A’, but some ensembles will tune to 442/443. Most Orchestral percussion will be tuned to 442Hz as well so it shimmers above the orchestra too.
The Bb will likely be so wind instrument players can tune (most harmonically resonant frequency on most instruments). So I’d say there’s be a complication where that watch can produce a tone (either A/Bb in either of those three frequencies - though the Bb 466Hz when A=440…)
The outer ring seems to indicate BPM or beats per minute, and generally musicians may use the second hand on a normal watch and subdivide to get to those tempi or close - for example; Allegro might be 120bpm, second hand indicates 60bpm (1 beat per second) so 2 beats per second = 120bpm = Allegro. This makes using a spring drive for timekeeping hard 😂
Great review! Thanks
I know some of these words.
Music theory 101 is still a bit above me but I appreciate the detailed response! Sounds like they at least attempted to make a watch with a real purpose.
963htz-the GOD frequency is also very important to combine sound with an inner connection to SOURCE.
Oh wow. I don't think a single watch has gotten me as excited as this one. It's the next one I get for sure. Great video, thanks for sharing!
This is gorgeous, whether you are an active musician or not. What a wonderfully designed, original little machine!
A440 is the standard concert pitch (so you could tune to the beep or maybe it plays the tone which would make more sense). 442 or 443 are other frequencies that can be used for tuning if you’re not in standard concert. (Cool watch!)
For Baroque music the pitch tends to be lower, of course. I’ve heard a lot with A = 415 Hz - not that my lousy sense of pitch can tell that reliably…
Plenty of European orchestras are thinking to A= 442 or 443Hz.
Good to see other players on the watch channels!
I am missing something, how do you set the time, why didn't you show this, for example if it was 6 o'clock when you were taping this video, why didn't you show us how to set the time and once the time is set how does it keep time when the hour hand is constantly rotating back and forth? Or is this not really a watch and some sort of musical instrument, but you called it a watch (watches tell time), so, I am shaking my head........
Actually, outside of the US basically everybody tunes to higher pitches then 440Hz these days. Of course there is also historical tuning, which is all over the place (although it seems to be consensus to play baroqu musik at around 415Hz these days, the 438Hz religious movement, special tunings for effects (like the devils violin from Mahler). Generally speaking though, most orchestras in the world are at 442Hz or 443Hz today, despite those in the US. The reason is not only the change in sound colour but also the balance between strings and wind sections.
That being said, I learned violin tuning to 440Hz in my youth and still really prefer it, despite everybody around me going higher.
Gorgeous minimalist watch
I’m so happy Seiko is still doing these silly things. Reminds me a lot of their 8M25 movements from the 90s…
Just ordered mine on ebay earlier today after watching this unboxing video! Great addition to my collection! ❤
Just bought 2! Heavy watch collector and love this! Is the joy of watches. Can have a diamond Rolex and a 200 gbp quartz and love them all equally for what they are!
Love at first sight. I bought one from the Japanese website you recommended. Google translate is magic.
I’ve seen the Seiko with dancing hands, but I’ve never seen this, thank you for sharing
Thank you very much for doing this review. These watch are often overlooked in the watch community.
Very nice. It highlights the wonderful meaning in this watch. It is a metronome watch! One of the coolest watches in the universe! Seriously, this is worth each and every penny I have! The dial is very cool and it can even have the reading of time!
Never thought I would see the day when I would find a more elegant version of the Soundbrenner. Neat!
Good grief, that is very interesting.... how wonderful is that? I never knew, well I never, what a great tool for musicians, what a cool feature. Thank you!
Eager to see what an actual musician thinks of this in use. I was showing it to someone at a busy restaurant and it was much harder to hear. And you don't play most instruments with one hand, so I think if you want to see this you take it off. It makes sense for practice in a pinch but not sure what else.
This makes me want to learn to play an instrument, again. Thanks.
My Step Dad always wore a Seiko, no other. Love it! God Bless!🙏😇
I envy the clarinetist. I offer no excuses. Had never heard of this before, but have to have it! Thank you so much for this most fascinating video. What a great conversation piece!😊😊😊
Okay. I need this. A gorgeous “must have” for a musician! Thanks for the video!
Pretty, amazing and a wonderful gift for a musician!
As a guitarist I can totally see a need / convenience factor this would have! Fantastic review or a quirky piece! 👏 👏
Not a true musician, but this is just fantastic that Seiko makes this !! Really very special.
It's got something of the past about it. Reminds me of vernier calipers with the dial, and pressure gauges etc. It even looks like it's a piece of old equipment of some kind. I like it. Reminds me of times when things had a good quality about them, and were very practical and reliable.
thank you for being an American vlogger willing to read a word with which he was unfamiliar and TRY to sound it correctly. Most are too lazy.
Brilliant! I'm a watch addict and drummer and I've just ordered one; thanks for this great video.
This is so much cooler than any fancy smartwatch out there.
I can't wait to see it on my wrist! Waiting mine on September pre order
me too! done placing my pre-order at StrapSeeker!
Thanks for thinking about us impatient types!
Cool design, great for piano learning.
Beautiful watch
musicians everywhere just shed a tear out of sheer happiness
As a guitarist, this watch is a must! It's also a beautiful watch.
That is SOOO cool. I play the oboe and that makes so much sense. Thank you
I now have to learn to play an instrument so I have a reason to own this watch
I'm not happy about this.
I swore I wouldn't spend more money on things I don't need.
It is just so perfect! I want it now!
As a musician, I don't think this would be better than any of the metronome apps (Soundbrenner is probably the best and also offers a Smartwatch metronome), but this is definitely cooler than any alternatives. Beautiful and interesting!
if you can feel the vibration on the wrist with this it's an absolute sale
So, I managed to find a metronome app for my Garmin watch. It works fairly well. Obviously not as cool, but it looks I'll save those 300ish usd... for now.
Exactly how I feel about this watch- my gosh do I not need it…I have an app…a mechanical metronome…and a digital one already…
Except this is such a cool gadget/way to flex…I think I’m gonna hold out and see if Seiko releases any more cool metronome dress watch models in the next few years cause their designs usually duplicate pretty hard with previous designs…
Best watch I've seen in a while!
Quite apart from it's unusual functionality, it's a beautiful watch. The clean lines and fine finish is something to behold!
Man the complication on this is amazing. I want one!
“certainly not in an airport😂😂”
looks amazing too
thank you so much for sharing this!
I'm def gonna buy aone and may keep one in the drawer for when I want to gift one
"...certainly not in an airport..." Cracked me up. Thanks for sharing.
undoubtedly the coolest thing i’ve seen this year. self birthday gift acquired.
Really beautiful and unique timepiece ❤
Different orchestras, players of certain instruments (like a harpsichord), or certain periods of music (such as Baroque), often tune to other frequencies. 440 Hz is simply a convention.
You should get a commission from Seiko. I bought this immediately after watching this review. I own around a dozen Seikos, a few JDMs, but I’ve never heard of this one. Great review and thanks for forcing me to buy “just one more watch.”
me too
That was a fantastic review!
"certainly not in the airport" :D i didn't even thought i will be able to laugh in this video :D
Ok this has no practical use for me but it is cool as hell, thanks for sharing!
Very clever design. Not bad looking too.
Oh yeah! I need one of these. I'm an accordionist and this would help me keep the tempo.👍
This is an awesome watch, just the piece of kit that's really useful for a musician. I will get one just to wear when playing my 🎸😊 Cheers
Thank you!
Wow, that's something new! Amazing idea, and a really interesting watch face! 😍
If I still had time to play the piano, I would absolutely buy one 😃
Beautiful looking watch.
Great video, this is one of the neatest watches I have ever seen, thank you very much for sharing, God Bless All ❤️
A fresh take on “keeping time”!
Such a cool watch
omg.. as a pianist, i must have this
Wow. My next watch for sure. Dude that is super useful for a musician.
I'm waiting for a musician to pick one up and give it a review. I imagine it's useful in a pinch. But it's an actual watch that looks quite nice too.
@@lookatwrist I'm a professional violist. I have one on order. Can't wait to get it!
Thank you for showing this! Such a good find🖤 Keep up the great content
I have the silver dial, gold hands version of this, and it really is unique. The strap was terrible, and I changed it out right away, and its a small watch, not helped by the huge chapter ring, but it's so different and interesting that I can't help but love this one.
Is the metronome loud enough for you to actually hear it while practicing?
@@SmokedHam444 It depends what you play. 😁 But the hand movements are a great visual beat too.
The A and the Bflat setting are a large range adjustment and the 440 (standard), 442(concert) and 443 are fine adjustment to align harmonics of the chirp chirp chirp thingy so the little squeaker won't disturb the piece of music being played with a discordant pitch. Really is quite a fancy gadget.
Fantastic looking watch, great find and review.
the metronome is the next big thing in watch complications imo
Now that is something you don't see every day. Very Nice!
What a fun watch! As an amateur musician with a watch addiction, I can’t see not acquiring one of these eventually. Saw this on a mustard ridged nato strap on Reddit which looked amazing, and got me to this video.
Yes I saw that post. I should play around with straps, but mine are all 20mm+. This has 18mm lugs. I think simple bauhaus style straps work, I just want one of higher quality.
Nice tool watch simple and elegant.
Growing up in band percussion and drum line, this is so cool. We live and breath metronomes. I could see this being really useful for a nervous conductor that wanted to double check tempo before starting the orchestra!
You don't need this, just use your high hat and left foot. 😉
And it looks beautiful.
That’s a watch for a drummer: quickly check the known tempo before you count it in. A very serious tool for many.
Seiko made several watches like this in the 1990's search for the "seiko dancing hands."
Ok now that's seriously cool!
Brilliant loved it! Not a musician but I need this in my watch collection
Awesome little tool. Sometimes when performing, it's easy to accidentally start with too ambitious a tempo because of the excitement/nerves. Having a discreet reference on the wrist would be very useful in certain situations. Now I need one...
I noticed that it's not MIJ but the work and idea are still great ! thanks for the video.
*slowly puts phone down and mumbles* "I don't need it I don't need it". *Gets into car down main road* "I don't need it I don't need it". *Walks into seiko dealership* "I don't need it I don't need it". *Realises he's bought every colour way of this model and maxed out his card*....."DAMN IT". *Smile still on his face*.
I desperately want this watch.
I have utterly no use for this but I still want one.
wow, thanks for the video, such a cool little watch
That minute hand's very useful in the rain. ;)
Been collecting watches all my and never have I seen one of these. Very interesting
This is sooooo crazy that's some precision
What a wonderful gift to my musically inclined friends.
Great for people who ask you the time and you show them this watch with the hands going back and forth. Like; ‘What’s the time?’ ‘About 8pm…..ish’
"Time to stop drinking."
Fantastic! Bravo, Seiko!
I have one. It's a fantastic piece.