2020 Yamaha Tricity 300 | Onboard & Ride Thoughts
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2024
- I have a chat about the 2020 Yamaha Tricity 300 onboard the machine and give my ride thoughts and observations about the features, how it feels to ride, power, handling, balance and much more.
This is my first attempt to do a full vlog style video, so let me know your feedback in the comments!
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motojournokris...
The main thing about these is they are for car drivers that don’t own a motorcycle license. You can drive them straight off without sitting any test for motorcycles. Because of the width of the front wheels they absolve themselves from being classed as a motorbike. Same for the Piaggio. Classed as trikes
Only in some parts of the world, certainly not here.
Best comprehensive test I have watched
Great video - thanks for sharing. Also, quite a beautiful area you were riding through. Enjoyed watching. Jan.
Thanks!
I am seriously considering getting one of these. Your assesment has pushed me a bit closer to that buy now button. Thank you.
They are definitely worth checking out, it's pretty cool tech, and they are fun to ride!
@@MotoJournoKris I'm hoping I can get a decently priced insurance quote. Ones so far are too high
@@richhughes7450 Do Yamaha do insurance where you are? That could be worth checking.
@@MotoJournoKris No they don't. Waiting for some quotes to come back but at mo. You cannot buy one as they have a recall on them.
@@richhughes7450 Oh really, I know there was an earlier recall for the Stand Assist function. Hadn't heard of anything since then. I wonder if high premiums is related to them being crashed and being really expensive to repair, due to the dual front-end setup. Normally scooters are pretty good for insurance!
Thank you for your review and thoughts, I am currently living in Thailand and intend on returning to Australia next year. I currently own a Tricity 155 and enjoy it very much but find it a little under powered for the highways here, I sort of fit the description of the person would choose such a scooter. I have keen to see an Australian review of the Tricity 300.
I really liked the Tricity 155, it's such a good thing around town, but felt the same on the highway. The 300 definitely has that covered, and is a nice step up, a bit more premium, a bit more power, just a bit more everything.
Hi Kris, Liked the POV style of review. Thought the audio was fine.
Thanks!!
With the Piaggio mp3 wont let you move with the parking break on which i believe is safer .
Nice one Kris. The front ends suspension didn’t look like it was well sorted for compression and re-bound (a bit bouncy). I’m guessing it doesn’t have any adjustments to fix that. That being said I guess, for its intended buyer, that wouldn’t be a selling point and will no doubt help reduce the costs. A bit like the MT-07...?
I think it's probably a limitation of running essentially four forks on the front end, with all that weight situated over the forks as well. When I had a look at the forks they were using most of the travel available. I thought it was a similar situation on the Tricity 155, and to a lesser degree the Niken. That said I didn't mind the front, it was the rear being a bit harsh I noticed more and you've got preload to play with there. I'd also be interested to see how tyre pressure effects the ride, as I didn't get around to testing that.
I'm not sure if it's like on the MT-07 where it's really value driven and obviously they envisage a certain rider weight range when they design it, or like I said something about that super beefy, dual front wheel setup that might be a limiting factor.
@@MotoJournoKris I agree 100%! Thanks mate. 👍😎
Thank You very much,
many good info's.
I will buy a tricity in the next few month, so i need all to know...
Best regards from germany,
Ralf
Congratulations on the new bike, have fun (and stay safe) out there!
Thanks for a fantastic review Kris. Loved the new onboard thoughts format. Quick question for me: how do you think the Tricity 300 would handle the occasional return trip down the freeway between the Central Coast and Sydney? Thanks Kris.
Appreciate the feedback, going to try and do this style a little more if I'm happy with the audio! Definitely think the Tricity 300 is capable, I did a few sections up the M1 from Sydney and it'll cruise at 110(+) easily with a bit to spare. It's only the really steep bits in one or two parts where it would sit at 115 or so and wouldn't accelerate up the hill, but it did hold that speed. Other than that, good wind protection, tracks along well, good acceleration except on the steep hills for overtaking.
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Hi, I'm glad you mentioned going up the hill. What do you do without dropping down a gear? Does it just die away and you wait till it catches up? I'm struggling to get my head around it?
Wide open throttle honestly, once it loses momentum the automatic will eventually drop down as you would with a gear manually for more drive/torque. It's not a sudden loss of speed, you just lose acceleration, then, on a steep enough hill, slowly lose speed/decelerate.
But essentially as you said, the power kind of dies away, and eventually the automatic transmission catches up with what's going on. In some cases carrying enough speed and momentum in will overcome this issue.
Prob would have sold/sell more Nixions with this stay upright button.,wonder why they didn't use it when they've got the technology,
also, given the Trictys extra weight,it's amazing they didn't us the 400 xmax engine,
size wise doesn't seem to be much difference,
but Yamaha probably have got their reasons for the way they do things.
Yep it would have been a cool feature on the Niken, I think some people did expect it too. It's pretty good with the 300, but going the 400 to offset the weight more would have been interesting! Might be something we have to look forward to in the future.
After kymco release their cv3 with the ak550 lump it wouldn't surprise me if Yamaha threw their 560 tmax engine in one of these..problem is it will cost much more than the kymco cv3.
Only reason for buying one of these in the UK for me is. I can ride it on a full car licence. not a bike licence or CBT
Yea that's a big selling point in some markets!
Thanks a lot for the very informative video. I was wondering how do you corner with it. Counter steer or like a car, turn the bar to right to turn right even you are fast?
Just like a motorcycle to be honest, including counter steering.
@@MotoJournoKris makes sense. You mean, lean a bit with counter steering and turn. I want to test it but ı dont want to go to the opposite direction in the first corner :) Thanks a lot...
@@azizustunel7661 Safest way to test it if you're unsure about actively counter steering is use a tiny bit of pressure while riding in a straight line (centred in your lane) to move around in your lane, as though you're avoiding a big pothole or similar danger on the road then correcting back to your original line. That will only need a very subtle action too. I definitely wouldn't recommend just adding bar inputs mid corner unless you know exactly what you're doing.
The main time I'd personally be actively using counter steering on the road, as opposed to passively without thinking about it to a relatively small degree, is if I'm avoiding something on the road, or I've stuffed my corner line up enough it needs a significant correction. The faster you go however, the more necessary it becomes to turn fast.
Far better to ride normally and look at how you ride to identify where you are already counter steering without realising, rather than trying to force it. Worth investing in rider training if you want to improve your riding, so an expert can give you usable, technical advice though, as that's their area of expertise!
I have aprilia sr gt 125cc scooter. Its a nice scooter but a bit to small and a bit underpower for my needs. This sims bigger, higher top speed and looks better option for me. The question I have is, how is accelaration? Is it noteble faster then 125cc 15hp maxiscooter? Thank
These are on the heavier side, so not as fast as the XMax 300 with the same engine, and it looks like the 0-60 time is similar to the little SR GT's figure, so the Tricity should get up to speed pretty similar to the 125. The XMax would probably fare a little better being much lighter.
@@MotoJournoKris thanks
how are the u-turns with this comparing with 2 wheels? is it wider or the same?
I didn't think about it at the time to be honest, I know they were certainly very easy and didn't feel like there was a substantial difference that meant I had to ride differently.
I have lazy issues is the reason why I would buy the tri-city😁
I'm thinking about a forza or xmax what's the fuel economy difference. Also speed difference up to 50 what is the quickest
U mention that this bike is good for those having back issue? How.? I h back issue
It probably depends what issues you face, but there's almost no need to support the bikes weight with the extra wheel alongside a pretty relaxed riding position, with some riders mentioning that really helps them.
Does counter steering still work the same with two wheels on this bike
Should do, I honestly didn't even think about it at the time, but handling is the same as a motorcycle. That would have made an interesting video too!
@@MotoJournoKris the reason I said this is because if you go to fast in to a corner will counter steer still react the same and up right the direction of tricity bike with additional wheel?? I if you do do a video on it I'd start if with going slow and the straight first trying basics. I I'm looking to get one, it sounds like a good bike to own
What is the tourqe like and on hills
I was fairly impressed to be honest, on the flat it still pulls well. At highway speeds on steep inclines is the only place it struggled. Obviously it's a lot heavier than the XMax with the same performance, but with that said I wouldn't be complaining for most riding.
Have you ride the Metropolis 400 and MP3 500. If do how does the Tricity compare? Thanks
I'm afraid not, so I'm not sure how they stack up.
@@MotoJournoKris ok thanks for replying. 👍
Hello. Thanks for your review. Do you still have to put your feet down when stopping, like at stop lights, etc.?
Short answer, yes. I think if your timing and balance was good, you could probably activate that system fast enough to not put a foot down... BUT I'm not sure it would be that practical in the real world, compared to just putting a toe down while you turn it on (which would probably be safer). But that might be something an owner eventually gets the hang of.
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Hi, great detailed review/video. After paralysing my left arm 20 years ago in a motorbike accident I’m now looking at getting back to biking, with the auto gear change foot brake & upright locking option etc do you think this bike with a few adaptions of the controls etc would be easy enough to ride with one arm.
To me it Looks like a contender besides other more involved adaptations on other trike options etc.
Thanks
If you cant use your left hand, then no
Price please. How can I get it in India?
Price here in Australia is $11,849 AUD on the road, but I haven't seen any pricing or availability information for India so far I'm afraid.
Is this bike coming to North America?
I'm not sure if it may be added in the future, but it's not currently available from what I can tell.
Can you still lane split?
Yep it's only slightly wider than the XMax 300. Just need to be careful as with the wide bodywork on the front end it's going to be a little harder to squeeze through really tight spots.
Hi, what do you think is the ideal size of a rider to ride it? I'm 1.72 m and weights 64 kg. I'm afraid it will be too heavy for me. In terms of moving it and maneuver it. Thanks
I'm a little taller and heavier than you but found it manageable. Under power the bike is stable and the extra wheel really helps although it handles differently to a traditional motorcycle at very low speeds. You do need to be mindful of the weight when rolling it around without power or in places where you'll need to reverse it back out, not that dissimilar to some of the much bigger touring bikes really.
@@MotoJournoKris thanks. Have you tried to ride with someone behind you?
Let’s be honest. They ripped off the Piaggio MP3. The fact that you don’t mention that is amazing.
Have to leave something for the angry Piaggio fans to comment about.
No, they didn't at all. Piaggio with their MP3 wasn't first at all. They made it very popular indeed but they were not first. Moreover Yamaha invented their own front wheels suspension which was used in Niken originally.
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Good video l am getting one the of May or the first week of June I have al.l ready tested one I have got a 125 cbf Honda with l plates I have for 8 years but I am l g v psv class one I won't need a bike licence yet yet ha
Very nice, they are a pretty cool thing!
Lean angle = risk!
Don't think that you appreciate and understand the way this tricycle drives. First don't make a review if you want to put this machine next to a motorcycle, it's not a motorcycle and it's not a scooter, it's a complete different machine. I'm a motorcycle police officer and I drive all kinds of heavy motorbikes but I was amazed about the driving behaviour of this machine, drive on paves and tram rails with a normal bike or drive sporty on damp road's,you will discover that this tricycle is better and safer than everything out there...
Sorry felt like you were telling me not to compare it to a motorcycle, only to base your entire opinion on experience riding motorcycles, and comparison to motorcycles. Interested to hear the logic behind that one.
Also points I made in my full review: ruclips.net/video/fwnwgloCm-c/видео.html
I own one 2024 model and was astonished the it handles perfect for older mc riders, rooijakkers fdom norway