THE TRUTH: Insomniac Spiderman Vs Arkham Batman | Who Wins?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Today, we’re going to be diving back into the world of Arkham and insomniac and taking a look at the two strongest heroes and seeing who would come out on top so who wins Arkham Batman versus insomniac Spider-Man?
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Yeah, Saitama solos, unfortunately, kiddo.
Bro this editing is is is crazy magnificent amazing beautiful
F in the chat should have used dc batman and marvel spiderman
@@KiraYBA says the one who kept saying "saitama solos" but yet your the kiddo here Goku solos and thats that
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You already know your strong if your a hero and people call you "the symbol of fear"🗣🗣🗣
Fuck me, really.
So, shigiraki?
@@kcoolthegamer He's a villain bro.
@@FoodgenieYTstill a symbol of fear
@@kcoolthegamerGarou🔥
I don’t know what’s crazier the music choice or the edits you’re the goat 🐐
I loved this one when it came out, you could upload this 100 more times and I wouldn’t even care that how GOATED it was
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@@Vegito_editss ain’t no way.
But its Not Correct Insomniac spiderman wins this
@@detectiveplays I agree
"And this is one of the only Batman that don't need prep time to win." Bro speaks Bars. 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
@@Hivesareawsome Insomniac Spiderman wins tho
@@detectiveplays did u not watch the video??
@Hivesareawsome Oh I did
And I simply don't agree with it
Insomniac has better feats
You know what's more amazing then magic? MATH!
-SPIDER HIMSELF
They are comparing the video game versions.
@@69thPresidentOfAmerica you are from America right?
Comprehensiblis
THE GOAT BROUGHT IT BACK!!
I’ve waited for someone who knows what they’re talking about to cover this forever
Missed a few key contexts for spider man. But was still a good video. And is closer then people think. Spiderman still wins.
spider-man absolutely cooks
Bro Spider-Man is always holding back plus he took the spider scene too lightly plus when Spider-Man was fighting electro he had broken bones and he was also dodging the vaulter and more
@@-eternty5639 he got bitched by the sinister six
@@-eternty5639he mentioned venom spider Man as well
You gotta be a crazy strong vigilante if the city people call you symbol of fear
Yet Gotham still has the highest crime rate in all of DC 💀
Every dc fan ever:Batman with prep time wins
This batman don't really need prep time though
@@jalengholson8595Yeah Arkham batman is cracked!
As stated by divine himself in this vid, "this is one of the Batmans that doesn't need prep time"
Batman without super powers being faster than Spider-Man is insane.
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And that's why I think Batman does have superpowers and everyone is just lying about it.
@@anubiszero2408lmao
He isn’t😭
@anubiszero2408 We aren't lying, DC gotta be capping or gaslighting us, because since the Justice League is canon (not SSKTJL, but the criminals do mention Superman and Flash in Batman Arkham Knight), that means Darkseid is canon, which means Batman has probably fought him at least once, and beaten him like he does in the comics 😭🙏
Great video but there is something that's been on my mind. Spidey has been known to hold back immensely against all his opponents because he doesn't wanna kill them. I think he knocked out a soldier by flicking him on his head once. So, you can't really say the fighting feats are showcasing his full strength.
Before you say more
Just remember
Who here has more plot armor?
Oh wait 😩
The symbol of fear
@@princemc35and for good reason. He literally ordered and requested all of its purposes for all of the suits himself. He bought the armor.
That's only true for the comics, he prolly held back in the insomniac universe too but as for whether he'd still be able to do the feat of flicking a soldier's head off or something is debatable. So he does hold back, it's just unknown how much he holds back in Insomniac
He has been known to hold back yes, but that was not really stated in the insomniac verse, so Spider-Man would lose based on the current feats that he has.
New York's saviour vs Gotham's symbol of fear
Guys if you ask me RUclips had just been unfair to a lot of people always want to get stuff copyrighted just cuz they don't approve of videos and stuff I'm Happy official Divine brought this video back
The goat is hitting me with cold quotes once again for the 10th time 🥶🥶🥶 😵💫😵💫
I wouldn’t give Batman the reaction speed advantage because even though he has precognition Spider-Man’s spider sense works 10x better.
True also batman is no where near close to as strong as Spiderman
@@4Kslimy exactly
@@KIRA_93me question if you ever look at the video he clearly says if it skills Batman wins this
@@clayvonzendejas1856 spiderman has skill hello? Brother it doesn’t matter he can’t out best him in anything especially if he’s using his webs + his combat skills Spiderman obviously whoops brother.
@@KIRA_93 bro are you on something that guy Batman master way more skills than spider man the main thing that carry that guy is the super powers
Speed is a little out of context for spiderman. Saying only lightning level. When peter did his lightning feats in the first game, with broken bones and tired. With full context batman is at best relative to the game one crippled spiderman.
There is more context. Speed is ignoring the context of electro. During the smoke stack fight, electro is amped with ock tech.
And dillan was the first super powered villain Peter fought in this universe. Peter was spiderman for 8 yrs and was 23 when he was in the 1st game. He was a 15 year old when he beat him. To say electro stayed lightning speed with the amp. And Peter got no faster then when he was as a child. Can't be correct.
Also it's stated to be electricity on his character profile. So it's like rel spol+.
In the first game. Ocks arms were said to process at an atto second. Otto beat a crippled spiderman. Then lost to a spider man in a different suit only after he was operated on, hours ago,(same night) in feast.
This atto second scaling is progressed in the dlc with hamme heads Lazer.
And into the second game, when his stronger arms are used.
Given the speed of light scaling his consistent across all the games hes been in. Means it's more likely than lightning speed.
Lets not forget batman also did these feats while being both physically and mentally crippled in fact he did most of arkham knight while being under the influence of fear toxin, joker serum manifesting and having multiple broken and fractured bones and being shot in the chest
Ap is ok. But could be considered to be higher. Spiderman in the 1st is casually able to make shcok waves that can be seen on oscorp satellite. Ignoring the property damage statements by JJJ. This is calced to city block level +.
With the statements they get as high as town level to city level + (depends on the degree of the earth quake)
But knowing JJJ someome could have just a window break or something small like that. 😅
But ofc always a good videos from you two. No hate. Awesome edits.
Just realized alternative title rich man vs brokeboy😂😂😂
Bro 😂 the disrespect is crazy 🤣
I'm one of the few whose seen this video before it got taken down, thanks Divine for re-uploading this. This video was amazingly fire!
tbh, Kid Goku victims.
Bro, stope mentioning Goku's name everywhere, people are talking like he can beat everyone
Everyone knows that he is stronger than these two, so mentioning it is just a waste of time
@@DagmawiKassahun-p4c he CAN beat anyone
@@adeelshaikh8503Not sunwukong… 🐐
The 3 of them plus all of Dragon ball verse are Wukong single balls hair victims 🥱
@@DagmawiKassahun-p4cacting as if Goku himself is not getting atomized by countless others characters 😂
Aight look, this just isn't a fair competition. On one side of the ring we have a superhuman that can climb walls, has insane agility, can get through a city in seconds AND has beyond superhuman strength. And what unnatural powers does Batman have? He is extremely smart and skilled in combat. That won't do shit. It doesn't matter if you have mastered 127 martial arts if you die from a single punch that Spidey doesn't hold back on. Both characters are goats tho, and you should never compare two goats 🐐
Based on feats Batman and Spiderman have building level strength.
Ok but everyone saying spidey one shots is just power scaling bias at peak! Superman can do way more damage than spider man and Batman can take them with the right gear. And if the fight is in Gotham city, Batman can swap to that gear and have a better chance.
Cuz superman has a weakness batman can exploit
@@letsdrawthingsYou know batman has fought superman without weakness exploitation right?
@@amogus3200 No, without weakness exploitation of some manner, batman never beats superman unless he gains powers. In fact, many of the times he wins (not saying all) part of the reason he won is because superman is holding back, like what is batman going to do if instead of talking, superman just runs through his body like A-Train.
Bat vs spider
Our fight will be legendary!!
The next day after the fight Peter Parker's alarm goes off with a note saying "train harder from Batman" next to his alarm with a list of people he can train with.
@@anubiszero2408 blud did not cook comic spider-man would decimate batman, it is true that arkham batman wins against Insomniac spiderman but that is mainly due to wild game mechanics and bad writing in the game, and remember spiderman is ALWAYS holding back and rarely shows his true strength, I know its the same with batman but spidys on a whole different level
@@PROLEO4011 1st what I said was just a joke but I don't think Comic Spider-Man will beat Comic Batman because of the difference in battle capabilities and the fact that Batman has to fight people stronger than him and Spider-Man on a daily basis. 2nd if you have to say Spider-Man not holding back then there's a problem because I'm not talking about a fight to the Death, I'm talking about if they had to fight normally so that means they will be holding back and I know Batman can out smart Spider-Man in a normal Fight.
@@anubiszero2408 sorry i didnt realize it was a joke but please hop off the batmeat lmfao Spider-Man can bench press a building in the comics, just by his spider sense makes Spider-Man far superior in hand to hand combat, Batman may have a lot of skill and experience but that won't do shit if 1. He can't even touch spidy 2. He gets knocked out in one punch 3. He would have no way to deal with his webs
@@PROLEO4011 pot meet kettle because you are on that Spidey Meat. Batman has fought people stronger than him like Solomon Grundy and he won and he fought people faster Spider-Man and Batman himself like for instance flash and reverse flash and still he won not because of PREP TIME the one thing I hate about Batman but he won because of his experience his knowledge. Batman doesn't know some skills he knows every form of martial art in the universe and combines them into his own form of martial art. But I will give you the stuck in the spiderman Web fluid but that doesn't mean you are going to stop him for two reasons first is that he has weapons that can instant freeze the web's and make them brittle and two is that he can do the same thing but with heat and I'll add a third cutting with a laser or many bladed weapons he has on his person at all times. Anyways I just can't see Spider-Man beating Batman in their first fight, their second fight, third fight or their fourth fight. (after five is anyone's game.) I did not mean to make a whole paragraph sorry.
If we take into account the anti venom suit, it has all the buffs of the symbiote suit minus the weaknesses.
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No Way bro Said two steps ahead😭🙏
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I’ve only been watching for 2 months now so I’m kinda new but at least I can say I was hear before a million(can you do how strong is Patrick star just for the memes:)
What about the suit powers that legit quadruples spider-mans strength and the anti venom suit can that can generate energy and heal him. stopped venom from taking over the earth. and spiderman has so many bombs and stuff that can web up batman and has dodged particle accelerators. (Just giving my opinion) this is an edit just found out that the venom suit can fight without peter being awake.
Batman would be able to shut off that suit rendering the extra power given useless and we’re talking about a base insomniac spiderman ofc if we give him the venom or anti venom suit batman is cooked
Cool video,I know it's batman day but to be honestly insomniac spider man has a higher A.P and durability than batman and wins with mid to high diff
Lets GOOOOO the goats drop it
I hope you reach 1million subs as soon as possible
3:02 That transition was HEVEANLY.
WE NEEDED THIS
First time I watched this peak I was so surprised to see Officer Boles Batman to win, Divine’s cooking has enlightened me!
Peter peter... it's time to get up...
I get goosebumps at every catch phrase said at the end
GOAT FRFR ❤ (Do a vid powerscaling jojo characters please!!) Love your vids 🎉
Y'all overrate Batman... Even though Arkham Games Batman is arguably the strongest version (non enhanced) of Batman in all of fiction, I STILL don't see him beating Insomniac Spider-Man, Spider-Man (Insomniac) WINS at High-Difficulty.
Helll nah💀Arkham Batman isn’t even top 50 compared to Batman in the comics
@@kita7823 Canonically Batman in the comics has caught more hands than The Diddler's victims.
"Lifting doesn't mean you hit harder". I smell a UFC fan there
Its true tho
@@BradSnowslett Difference is that spiderman can lift over tens of tons. The ratio of spiderman's strength to batman is too huge and would most certainly make a difference. Rhino, scorpion, and the lizard easily are way durable and stronger than batman's heavy hitters (bane and killer croc)
@@Saffy2099 yeah but this is fighting where how much you can lift is almost irrelevant and based on batmans feats listen here in this video and more he didnt talk abt they should be relative in punching power but the difference is that batman knows every form of fighting and has crafted his own version of it
@@BradSnowslett First of all spiderman was extremely lowballed in this video. Batman's speed feats were gameplay mechanics and not even an actual representation of him being faster than the laser/lightning beam. Second of all there are no in game feats of killer croc or bane surviving point blank explosions. Those feats were taken from external media. Now Spiderman's feat of dodging lightning from electro was while he had multiple broken bones and also being attacked by vulture at the same time. Spiderman is easily way faster than Batman, not only that is way more agile. They are no where near relative in punching power. Spiderman holds himself back and we can see that even with the black suit kraven stated that he was holding himself back.
A lot of people did not watch the entire video. He literally said Batman was outfitted with extra tech in his suit from other super hero’s. I feel like either one would win on any given day so who ever won I’m fine with.
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@@Buttergas yes papi
OfficialDivine how about the suit that Iron Man gave Spider Man? It might overpower Batman because maybe gis webshooters could be attached to his suit which means he might not be able to destroy it.
This better slap though insomniac and Arkham I'm picking Spider-Man
batman wins. most people who debate this say batman wins 8 times of 10
@@darthdivenes3281thats just not true; batman doesn’t have nothing against the spider except combat skill and weapons/gadgets. Spider-Man has taken more punishment and can easily dish out more than enough to beat batman lol.
@@darthdivenes3281the reason you claim most people say batman is because of the “he beat his villains in one night bs” Spider-Man villains are 5x stronger; batman is fighting people with disabilities and mental problems.
@@darthdivenes3281how about you debate rn? Spidey stomps beyond belief
Spider-Man wins he’s just too strong bro
It is close but spider man could pull through if he dint hold back it’s stated that he can break rhino’s suit who’s strength is multi building level
lol
One of the few instances where Bruce could take Peter due to bad writing in Arkham games and wild gameplay mechanics.
Realistically though, Spider-Sense is basically low level pre-cognition and Batman will usually get decimated by Spider-man.
True, he totally forgot about spidey sense
It’s not. He only “wins” do to bad chain scaling. Batman is able to be damaged by far weaker than green lantern or the flash
I heavily disagree based on a few things, Insomniac Spider-Man has the Anti-Venom suit and not the Venom Suit so he has no sonic weakness there, you also didn’t bring Insomniac Spider-Man’s comics into play either when you did with Arkham Batman, and Killer Croc didn’t “run through Blackgate” like Rhino can, he tore his way threw with his claws so I think Bane would’ve been a far better example which even he falls short to Rhino… and then there’s the speed and in my honest opinion I actually don’t think Batman is faster than Catwoman, I think his skills and experience allow him to fight people who are faster than him, this video I’ve just seen Batman wank as you’re giving Batman gadgets that he doesn’t use anymore and ones that aren’t even his like Electrocutioner’s Gauntlets
I think Spider-Man wins personally for a few reasons
1.durability -spider tanking hits from venom is at bare minimum city block level of it city level durability
2.spider sense means he can always predict Batman’s attacks while Batman can’t predict something he hasn’t seen before and negates his stealth
3. Webs batarangs can cut ropes but web fluid is far more durable then anything the batarangs have destroyed
4. Endurance soiderman took out the sinister six with half of the bones in body broken whole Batman is usually at peak health
I am a professional bat fam fanboy, most of my tattoos are Batman related. And even I know this comparison is disingenuous. You ignored most of Insomniac Spider-Man’s best feats from the first game and didn’t mention anything from the second. Base spider-man from the first game is physically superior in every aspect, speed, strength, striking power, reflexes. The only points in Batman’s favor are his mental stats and even that is really close, Peter is a genius, his tech is on par with Bruce’s. And he doesn’t have Bruce’s capital, he makes his tech on a shoestring budget. Furthermore Bruce has someone else make his tech for him in the later Arkham games. There’s a reason when I’m asked if I could have the powers and equipment of any superhero, from marvel or DC, I’d take Miles Morales’s abilities and equipment over Bruce Wayne any day. The only thing that would tempt me towards Batman is the frankly ludicrous amount of money he has. If I could have the powers of any supe from any form of media, it would be The Darkness, from The Darkness comics and video games, that dude made Superman bleed without kryptonite or prep time.
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Great vid but spidermsn gives batman nasty backshots
Thx for BRINGING IT BACK ❤
If Peter is bloodlusted...it's over.
and i could say if this was injustice batman he would would one tap Spiderman.
@@Deviant-Strategic-Assassins but the argument isn't about injustice batman is it?
@@uvb1900no arkham batman still nega cope
@@BradSnowslettGet him past Miles first
@@4e_vin255miles venom abilitys are too much
Two goats, but insomniac spiderman wins.
Peter dodged lightning while nerfed from exhaustion and 14 broken bones. He casually did this repeatedly while battling the electro and the vulture at once and defeated them handily. His full health base is faster than his nerfed self who casually dodged lightning. Then at the start of Spider-Man 2 it’s been 2 years, and Peter is stated and shown to have continued to train for the two years while also have gotten the advanced suit 2.0, so Peter at the start of the game is even faster. Then he gets the black suit which enhances all of his physical stats which would include speed. Catwoman dodged a single bolt of lightning off screen. Nerfed Spider-Man from the first game casually dodged multiple lightning attacks while fighting a whole other supervillain at the same time. Those feats are relative at best for catwoman. Batman upscaling from catwoman doesn’t mean anything since Peter at full health in the same game upscales from these feats, then he upscales from that by the start of the second game, and upscales from that once he gets the black suit. Interpreting this as a point for Batman is silly.
Peter massively cliffs Arkham Batman in ap too. Peter doesn’t scale to miles’ large town level Harlem feat cuz he hurt miles, that’s not at all the point. Miles in his own game absorbed one reactor and releasing it created his mega venom blast, and after that his venom abilities upgraded to being capable of using the mega venom blast on his own later. Then at the end of his game he absorbs an overcharged reactor which was gonna destroy Harlem which was what got calc’ed to large town level, and he released it afterwards. It’s very possible that he can generate that following this his venom abilities once again upgrade to the point of allowing him to generate this amount of energy on his own by the second game. At the very least this could apply to his “evolved venom” abilities he gets later in the second game.
By the very beginning of Spiderman 2 you can potentially already make the argument that he scales to this Harlem feat level. The sandman giant sand avatar swinging his arms to attack has been calc’ed at around town level I think, he tanked attacks from Miles calc’ed at multi city block level, and his beach enhanced sandstorm was calc’ed at like small town level I think. Miles then absorbs multi of sandman’s lightning bolts which peter questions is manageable for miles, then peter absorbs this collected energy from miles and one shots sandman’s giant sand avatar. Assuming this level of energy absorbed by miles was relative to his Harlem feat for his own game, Peter’s spider legs would scale to the level of being able to absorb that amount of energy. Unless you think his robot spider legs scale massively above his actual body, he probably scale around that too.
Later peter gets the venom symbiote suit and is trapped in a box by kraven which kraven explains has been built to be “unbreakable.” Kraven has been shown with in depth files on all the important heroes and villains in the story thus far, so this box somehow being “unbreakable” means that it’s at least capable of withstanding any feat thus shown in the story, which would include miles’ super charged large town level mega venom blast at the end of his game. Peter while supposedly holding back busts out of this box, meaning even if you don’t believe Peter scales around the miles Harlem feat from the start of the game, symbiote Peter undeniably scales above the Harlem feat.
Given the ambiguity of this “unbreakable” statement, it might even scale to city level if kraven built it to withstand even nukes. Pretty out there, but the point of this box is that kraven is proving that Peter is the perfect hunt. What makes Peter the perfect hunt is that kraven can go all out and use what prep time and gadgets he wants, and Peter will still defeat and kill him. So it’s very possible kraven would try to not only make this box able to with stand any feat we’ve seen thus far but also just as unbreakable as he can, potentially enough to withstand any manmade bomb if that’s what he’s aiming for. The only feats that correlate with this are the beach enhanced sandstorm at the end of the boss fight at the start of the game. It’s calc’ed at around town level, but it could potentially be higher and his sand avatar could still be at around town level. Peter refers to sandman as a city wide emergency. Then later, his beach enhanced sandstorm apparently reach wide enough to have spread his weird memory crystals around the city. If this sandstorm really was city level, then it’s more possible kraven’s unbreakable statement did imply the box was around city level, and symbiote Peter destroyed it.
Peter fights miles later in the game. At the beginning of the fight, Miles and symbiote Peter literally clash and Peter blatantly overpower’s miles. Once again Peter overpowering miles’ evolved venom blasts should scale him to miles’ Harlem feat from his game. Over the course of the rest of this fight, miles uses a combination of talking sense into Peter to help Peter fight the symbiote’s influence and spamming the hell out of the nearby bell to nerf to symbiote Peter enough to get the advantage. Eventually Peter just rips off the suit himself.
By the end of the game Peter keeps the anti venom suit which is stated to lend the same amp that the black suit did, so idk why him keeping his symbiote scaling is cheating or anything. Peter with large town-like small city level scaling is much stronger than Arkham Batman.
As for technology you did list even half of Peter’s gear, cuz he takes that point as well. Batman does have all the gear you mentioned, very cool. But aside from his multiple different types of webs, Peter has web bombs, concussive blasts, vacuum bombs, tasers, combat holograms, combat drones, anti-gravity bombs, and robot spider legs to help him fight and allow him to absorb energy. This is without bringing up the velocity suit from insomniac Spider-Man’s comic if you don’t wanna count that. When it comes to tech gadgets and equipment, insomniac blows Arkham Batman out of the water. Don’t even get me started on the symbiote suit which gives Peter the symbiote tendrils, makes him lava resistant, allows him to see invisible people, allows him to regenerate from broken limbs and stab wounds, and his anti venom suit doesn’t even have the weakness to sound. Peter takes this point.
Combat skill isn’t as bad as you might think especially given the stats they have, but Batman obviously takes it. Same for battle iq. But mental fortitude? You mentioned peter withstood the scorpion’s poison and managed to develop a cure while hallucinating, but he also battled Mr. Negative from within his mental realm where he came out the victor despite Mr. Negative’s abilities praying on Peter’s negative emotions. Peter eventually removed the black suit despite its influence on his emotions. Batman can still have this point since given all the fear toxin and joker venom he’s had running through him during his games. Not that one sided though.
I also find people claiming that Batman’s technology scales to the technology of the green lantern ring to be very goofy. This is just pretty blatantly not at all the point of his statement, and the flash’s armor being Wayne tech doesn’t actually prove anything for this nuke scaling. It’s all very nonsensical.
Peter slams. At worst, he is just relative in speed to Batman. At worst, he’s large town level, and that realistically clowns this Batman. At best, his upscale in speed from his base form weaker nerfed self from two years ago is more noteworthy than Batman upscaling from a singular off screen lightning dodge feat from catwoman. At best he’s probably also around small city level. Peter takes gadgets and equipment by a mile. He also has a much longer list of abilities. Batman takes combat, but Peter has still fought characters stated master combats such as taskmaster and silver sable, and kraven. Kraven’s henchmen are also stated as the best fighters in the world handpicked by kraven himself, which makes the previously mentioned characters master combatants even among the supposedly best in the world. Taskmaster himself claims to be at the level of the avengers which is very obviously likely referencing the combat abilities of characters like black widow and captain America as people on his level. Yet Peter defeated him. Batman taking combat is not gonna cut it. Insomniac Spider-Man claps.
Well written.
Finally someone with knowledge and actually know how to scale these two characters
Well to be fair Batman took out Deathstroke and Bane with ease so Taskmaster might not be that hard for Batman
But i know spiderman’s strengh and Speed is to OP for Batman unless prep time makes a difference
@@munken7673deathstroke in the arkham series isn't as impressive as taskmaster especially since deathstroke only predicts the opponents movement while taskmaster copies the person's martial arts. Bane also is skilled but not nearly as skilled as even black cat tbh
@@videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474 I haven’t played Arkham origins But Batman took some af the best hitmen in the World and i haven’t played that much of spiderman 2 But the fack that Sable Wraith and Kraven Can even put up a fight agienst spiderman it shows that Batman Can be a hard oppenent despite spiderman Way superiore speed and strengh
And Sorry for my bad english not my first language
If it's fist to fist, Spiderman still has a chance because of spider-sense. Let's say it's at the slightest range though. If spiderman has less than a second, he can jump mid-air and just web him up. And you said it yourself, if he gets webbed up, it's over. Spiderman could lift him up from there. Batman throws something? Spider-man can just throw it back. They're both equally fast, Batman has better tech, and Spider-Man can hit harder.
Lets GOOOOO
3:29 idkk man spider-man can literally bust holes in peoples chest when he decides to not hold back
@OfficialDivine Can you do an Ultra Vegito vs Anos Voldigoad (The Misfit Of Demon King academy) video please?
if spider man raw strength is superior then of course his striking power is stronger. they're almost at the same level cause spider man is holding his punches back. if he can lift things that weighs tons then he could probably punch a in steel and could even punch a vault door flying too if he's not holding back.
Nah bro, the better player wins
Time for a little debunk. Spider-Man is faster than Batman. Spider-Man doges lightning with 14 broken bones and also dodging vultures attacks at the same time, and even if Batman is faster Spider-Man still has his spider sence. Spider-Man has his gadgets which most of us can agree are more versatile than Batman’s. Spider-Man’s combat skill is actually super underrated. He beat task master who has fought was stated to fight other members of the avengers. This would include captain America. Since insomniac has good adaptation of their character we can possibly assume that captin America has his ability of knowing almost every martial art known to man and his ability to process combat information 4x faster than the average human. So we can scale task master to captain America. Spider-Man also has his own fighting style it seems in insomniac and by official devines logic Spider-Man knows some martial arts. So yah Spider-Man wins low mid-diff.
Let’s remember that spider man is always holding back
yea you give spiderman the black suit, turn off morals and put them both 15 meters from each other and batman is completly done, but in a real battle, lets say in ny city put them in opposite ends of central park without prior knowledge of each other and make them fight, spiderman is just left in the dust
The same applies to batman he is always holding back, if he would go all out his villains wouldn't survive it's the same with his comic book counter part death stroke even criticized batman on it on numerous occasions.
Against thugs and low level superhumans yeah
Aint no way bruh that batman got more reaction time
Spider-Man is objectively faster in both reaction time and running speed
how so
@@officialdivine.. In reaction time he can dodge bullets and in running speed he has superhuman speed batman is just a human
@@camerontupper1138bro didn’t watch the video😂
@@user-lastonestanding I don’t get how the slight edge goes to batman when spider-man can dodge lightning plus his spider senses act on their own
@@user-lastonestanding so Batman has super powers?
these edits got me geekin.
Hey man im glad you brought this back!(Fire as usual) I wanna request a video but i dont know where to find your cash app 😅
link in the description 🤝 but i’ll put it here too cash.app/$officialdivinee
5:08 NIKOCADO REFERENCE ??
Don't forget Spider-Man pulls his punches
so does batman and he mentioned it
@@kerer2241Batman holding his punches andthe Spider-Man holding his punches are two completely different things.
@@L_01199 yes still batman has way way more experience then him
@@kerer2241Spiderman has far better powers than him
@@SudhishSP-h7k bro then you dont undrestand batman
Awesome
glad you got this vid back up
To be fair though spider-man’s webs are extremely strong, the likes of hulk struggled to break out of them.
Will you ever make gaming content more specifically sparking zero?
sure why not
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*gives Batman speed*
PS4 Velocity Suit : am I a joke to you?
We Here Finally 🔥🔥🔥
Divine, please, how can I get your Arkham batman video that got taken down
I immensely loved it
When it comes to science and math, Spider-Man has Batman outperformed. Science and math are two subjects NYC’s Wall-Crawler excels in.
Spider-Man has better physical stats fs, if it was a blind meeting, easily Spider-Man, but in a universe where they know about one another, Batman would def be more aware and I know it’s a cop out of “Batman with prep time can beat anyone” but game plans, fight iq and experience is a massive contributing factor. Let’s not forget Batman comes up with contingency plans for characters way more powerful and harder to exploit than Spider-Man
I didn't watch the video yet but this a no brainer spider man wins
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damn this didn't age well batman smashes Spidey
@@shadow24754No
loser lol
Found the only intellectual
Rick Sanchez vs comic Batman all weapons tech and gadgets with insane prep time
How strong is composite gamera
How strong is composite nic cage
How strong is homelander
How strong is perfect cell
"It's time to get up"
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Yoo loved watching this video again
Keep up the work
Never seen a more biased video in my entire life.
Bro completely ignored, Rhino destroying multiple city blocks, making him city blocks level casually. Peter scales to him. Batman's punches are gonna tickle spidey, considering he can even hit one since spider sense negates every attack Batman does. Once Batman gets webbed up, he's done for since his lifting strength is far inferior. The difference between building and city block characters are no joke. One touch from a serious spiderman will stomp Batman into oblivion.
Not to mention Miles' feat is town level, not multi city block. Meaning with the black suit, spiderman sneezes batman away.
Hear me out for this suggestion...
Ippo vs Baki.
Battle of the beasts.
That would be sickkk(betting on ippo)
I haven't watched Ippo, but Baki is kind of broken for an anime about "martial arts", seriously, fym "I will imagine more joints in my body which will allow me to reach the speed of sound"
@@GLMZIGM Or "Yujiro's punch was so strong that it stopped an earthquake "
Baki can physically convince me that I could become a 5th dimensional organism for 0.79 seconds just by stretching in the wrong direction.
The actual fight would be Spider-Man curb stomping Batman, then while hes incapacitated, giving him a one liner and then hearing him out. The guy wouldn't kill batman, hes not gonna take him seriously either, hes dealt with way worse.
In the end !
The fight between holding back v/s plot armour
results in defeat of man over MAN!🤐🤐
Every superhero holds back to an extent even in Arkham verse canon batman was stated to be holding back as well and it shows when he got dosed fear toxin and joker took over he was taking down militia troops in a much more brutal manor absolutely rag dolling them
@@BradSnowslett yo take it as a 'joke' bro!
And btw dont write so long it take so much time to read.
@@lifeiscomplex if you think thats actually long i feel sorry
@@BradSnowslett No worry man! Instead it was a nice opinion.
the quotes are fing fire w vid love it keep it up im in a loss of words
Imo I’d say spidey wins because of his endurance who was able to beat the sinister 6 in 2 days with 14 broken bones but W
tdk vs Cas?
Batman was able to beat 22 in not even a day only a night while under a fear toxin of ten men the same toxin that infected the entire city with him being the only one to withstand
Depends how you interpret certain things, CAS appears in Final Crisis and TDK is given all Crisis Energy, so with this interpretation TDK automatically scales higher, if not, then I do believe that CAS is on par with or stronger than the buffed version of Wonder woman who defeated TDK, although, TDK wa snerfed at this time.
TL;DR: CAS has solid odds of winning this, I would personally give it to TDK
W divine also first
Going with Arkham Batman on this one, due to the fact that Kraven is basically a character with the same skill set as Batman, except he's arguably super soldier level and doesn't know all Martial arts. So if Kraven is capable of beating Base Spider-Man and most of Spider-man's villain gallery off pure skill and cunning, why can't Arkham Batman? Not only that but Batman's explosive gel and Remote batarang should be able to psyche out Spidey's spider sense, not only that but we've seen that Spider-man in Insomniac sometimes struggles against people who are either slightly super human like Sable or a literal normal human like Yuri aka Wraith. All around its a High to Mid level difficulty fight, also excellent video Divine!🎉 👍
He "struggles" because he's either trying to talk it out like with Sable or is holding back like with Wraith because that was his police friend. He's also beaten multiple super humans, even at the same time. Vs Rhino and Scorpion, who are meant to be stronger than him lost, vulture and electro lost and he was dodging lightning AND Vultures attacks with 14 broken ribs, and Spider-Man could literally yank the detonator from his hand before he can even pull the trigger like he's done to to multiple thugs. Batman is a goat but he's not beating Spider-Man
@@localmemedealer3368 Yet still Arkham Batman was able to beat Solomon Grundy and Clayface within the same night with multiple suit damages and injuries after literally being shot by helicopter artillery and surviving. Also saying that Spider-man would “Yank” a weapon that he knows nothing about for no reason with no previous knowledge of said weapon is purely copium. Also zero reason to fully hold back or let himself get hit by Sable in the previous game, also Wraith should be Easily dispatched of in his symbiotic suit, but she is a literal boss fight. You also failed to mention the remote batarangs and that’s not even counting the other weapons and gadgets that Batman has in his arsenal, which were shown to be in the game, not only that but you literally saw in the video, that Suicide Squad’s Arkham Batman’s (atrocious game) durability legitimately scales to a Nuclear bomb level and has the means to be a durable enough suit for The Flash to wear at beyond light speeds, without it getting burnt off. Also none of this at all addresses or debunks the fact that Kraven, who has beaten Peter in the symbiote suit in the comics, while being only two times the strength and speed of a peak human. Nor does it address that Insomniac Kraven in the game, gave a difficult fight to a non- Holding back, blood lusted Venom. Lastly the fact that he straight up defeats Base Spider-man and straight up KILLS HIM verbatim, even when MJ is literally in the same room and at risk of dying, (which should be enough to prevent Peter from holding back to a high extent AND should make him extremely protective and much tougher). Just like when he needed to protect aunt May in the comics against Fisk. You say Spider-man’s beaten multiple Superhumans who are stronger than him, yet we already know that Deathstroke is a blatant super soldier, Solomon Grundy is the literal inspiration for The Hulk, Clayface is actually on par with Sandman in terms of ability. Also Arkham Catwoman was stated to be able to dodge electricity from the ingame militia drones, which Batman of course scales above, by default, so your mentioning of spidey dodging electro’s electricity is not a counter. Also Arkham Batman in Arkham Origins was able to influence and control someone’s heart beats per minute, we see him do this to Roman Sionis (Black Mask) with his wrist tech gauntlet, which means that he somehow either needs to randomly touch Spider-man during the fight to initiate it, or he can just pull it out on a whim and subdue Spider-man with that simple strategy. Also Solomon Grundy should be consistently stronger than both Rhino and Spider-man since we know that other versions of Solomon Grundy are potent or strong enough to be competing villains against SUPERMAN. In fact I’m pretty sure Solomon Grundy at one point fought the entire Justice League at once in the comics, so we can infer that Arkham Solomon should scale somewhat to that, since that would be a basic attribute of his character. Not to mention that Solomon is immortal and gets stronger with the more he dies and the more electricity he withstands, yet Batman beats him AND dodges an RPG from penguin, right after. All in all Arkham Batman is taking this battle, but not unscathed, but based on what we saw from both characters, Batman has the edge in skill and equipment and of course IQ, and even if we take into account the symbiote suit, Batman has the sonic batarang AND cryptographic sequencer from Arkham Asylum which would both set off the weakness of Venom to sonic sound frequencies. Arkham Batman triumphs. 💪🦇🐐
@echamp2448 almost had my attention fr until you started bringing up comics despite this being a video game debate but since we're doing that the continuation comics of Insomniac Spider-Man has the Velocity suit, which literally just turns Spider-Man into a speederster, blitzing any and everything Batman can throw at him with his already enhanced senses, lightning is definitely faster than an RPG and a lot harder to dodge when you're fighting two people, I didn't bring up the remote batarang cuz it's Lowkey pointless cuz you/Bruce has to control it themselves which would just turn him into a sitting duck and can definitely dodge it considering how slow it would look to him, the gel detonator would have to touch Peter or he'd have to catch him off guard which are both extremely difficult and a detonator still looks like a detonator, Batman didn't customize it and Spider-Man's line of work has definitely seen more than one of those so it's not coping, he's just not dumb. Arkham Grundy isn't the same as Comic Grundy and it's dumb you try to compare them but since you did, Superior Spider-Man who has met and "fought" Insomniac Spider-Man has done things like knock out Wolverine, who could most definitely solo all of Batman's rouges, punched the jaw off of Scorpion who is another super human meant to be stronger than him. It's safe to say they're relative to each other since Superior Spider-Man is really just a Spider-Man who doesn't hold back as much. Then the Symbiote suit is funny cuz neither you or Divine brought up his anti-venom suit he obtained and still has, which he has complete control over and resistance to the sound as seen when he used his sonic grenades and venom is already immune to fire, so he's really not disorientating him with that. Batman only wins in experience and gadgets, it's 🕷️🐐
@@localmemedealer3368 I was clearly talking about Kraven and Solomon Grundy being relative to their comic counter parts.
@@localmemedealer3368 Also it should go without saying that this whole video is pretty much about BASE Spider-man. Not Symbiote spider-man and even then Batman should have an advantage due to his sound based gadgets.
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Spider man’s punch was literally underestimated in this video
Its useless if you enemy can use it against you
@@rabbitinthemoon8981He cant. Its common knowledge that spider mans strength and speed is so far beyond that of batmans that combat skill wont have any part to play
Yeah divine typically goes off feats alone and Spider-Man’s feats aren’t as good as Batman’s, but he holds back in every single one of his fights, so if he went full power he’s kinda done
@@Oversight-ok1bi if batman doesn't have a moral code he will make Gotham crimes free in 3 days
@@Oversight-ok1biName a single feat by Batman comparable to Spider-Man holding up a collapsing ceiling and catching speeding cars, my guy Batman couldn’t even lift a concrete slab off of him without Catwoman’s help
You need to do natsuki Subaru next
Spiderman wipes lmao especially symbiote
Now he has the anti symbiote making him invincible to batman
Ok this is really fucking messed up
First of all its stupid to think that batman is faster than spiderman plus flash depends on his own speed bufed by waynetech so its not really a speed buff at all
Plus ur talking bout hand to hand so no prep time
So this means ur wrong
This is one of the only times I agree with a death battle completely
@@elvisobua5459 how so?
@@officialdivine.. usually when I watch a video debating on "who would win", I would usually look for the flaws in their argument, but for this video, I completely agreed with what you said. You played fair with both sides, and I was happy with the outcome.
Though It could just be my baised -ity for batman, that made me like the video
@@officialdivine..because you're biased?
@@alatusedits not agreeing with me doesn’t make me biased brother
@@officialdivine.. you ignored peter scaling to rhino, which makes you biased
As a person who has been playing the arkham games for almost a decade. And played every spiderman game this soooo accurate love the videos keep it up. Please do arkham batman and mcu ironman.🔛🔝💯💯
You cooked with this one
This remake is awesome!
the thing protecting flash isn’t his suit it’s the speedforce barrier. That’s the problem with this argument.
I been waiting for this
*Peter is being seriously lowballed here. Anyways i copy pasted a comment i found on a diffrent video on this debate. Because writing the arguments myself would take hours. But that also means that some of the counter-arguments in the comment dont apply here because official divine never made them, so you can modify that part in your head. And this comment can come up as rude, since it was adressed to someone else and the original video that it was adressed to was a little disingenuous. No hate on OfficialDivine.*
„Okay. Immediately I gotta call out something. How come there was no mention of Kraven and venom scaling.
Kraven was shown to blatantly Overpower and kill every single member of the sinnester six. Was proven superior to both Spider-Man in combat strategy and power.
Blitzing Spider-Man bypassing Spider sense. And even putting up a massive fight against both mile and even an enraged symbiote peter.
And later on venom basically easily soloes him moments after being born and not being as smart or powerfull yet.
Then venom goes to lift up an entire highschool that takes up a city block worth of land space alon with the ground below it without difficulty. Currupt a whole city. Wirh symbiote tendrils. Become far stronger and gain hella new abilities. Practically becoming a god. Who was shown to have the ability to eventually exoand over the whole planet. And both peter and miles who are both respectively amped where able to fight and overpower him temporarily until they were defeated. Anti venom peter while holding back as to try to get harry to react rather than killing him can take venom on by himself despite benom being 10 feet tall and much stronger and faster than all of his enemies
combined. And despite losing he gets up again and with his second win he manages to over power venom.
Burn him off of harry with Harry's own help and kill venom.
There is hella opportunity there to do multiplyier
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upwards scaling that you simply ignored yet did with batman with more scuffed feats.
Not to mention your entire baseline argument for Batman's AP crumbles at the mere mention that Joker most likely didn't actually tank the explosion and rathe escaped somehow. Cause that's what he does. It's his thing. Faking his own death and escaping in the last second. It's pretty obvious to anyone watching that the movie never intended for us to assume the joker full on tanked an explosion no diff and survived it.
Not to mention that explosion was building level to large building level at most. City block is one hell of a wank for that tiny ass explosion that didn't even significantly affect any of the clearly close by buildings
The only chance batman has is the fear toxin stuff and that's assuming that the anti venom symbiote suit can't simply filter the gas out like any other iterations of symbiotes in marvel. Not to mention his super regeneration and the antivenom symbiote should heal and cure any illnesses or poisons/toxins in his body cause that's what the symbiote does.
So we're being hella generous to imply the fear gas would even affect him.
And if it did. Batman just doesn't have the AP to hurt Spider-Man. He'd straight up heal far before any lasting damage was done.
And to top things off everything peter does in game and combatwise is canon.
Well peter has a thing called symbiote surge which literally heals him and makes him Invulnerable to damage as well as multiplies his power and speed by a lot.
No enemy in the game can hurt him in surge mode. He takes zero damage. All they can do is stagger him but only the heavier more powerful opponents can because peter also gets Higher resistance against being staggered. Steaight up having little to no combo interruptions as nearly no attacks can even combo break him.
Which implies Spider-Man is so strong none of the enemies can hurt him when using the full power of the symbiote. Which includes symbiote brutes and symbiote goons who all scale to or above base peter.
You ignore Peter own gear and intelligence. Not even mention all the stuff he can create on the fly. His spider sense warning him of just about any move or trap batman sets up. And the fact that anti venom and Spider-Man have no weaknesses. There are no weaknesses to exploit. None that batman can. And bringing up prep time is honestly ridiculous based on how little Arkham batman ever shows any capacity to use it. Preptime is the end all beat all of batman fans and it's the ultimate scapegoat to win any argument. It's so ridiculous to use it because there's no plausible way to gage or measure preptime. But if you wanna play like that fine. He rarely to never uses preptime and doesn't have any feats supporting he'd be all that better off with it.
If anything he tends to rush in without a plan and make ideas on the go cause he is to impatient.
Peter on the other hand was able to make an armored suit with infinite gear ammo to perfectly counte and combat dock ock in less than 30 minutes. Made plans against the sinnester 6 and msrtin lee etc. He's shown way better prep time feats.
And I could get into the whole Debunking batman speed feats by simply stating the obvious of there's no way to support batman bring more than hypersonic just by dodging bullets. And cateoman scaling would only bring him up to massively hypersonic at best. When logistically speaking there's barely any proof of him dodging pure electricity. Just lightning. Unlike spiderman who blitzes electro who is blatantly stated to have electricity based attacks. They are pure electricity. His attacks are. But his goal is to rid himself of a human body snd become pure energy.
And the superman scaling is hella dubious at best. Bacause it clearly relies on him flying straight into the sun and back which based on the angle he flies at alone you can tell he isn't going directly towards the sun and likely is just going to the stratosphere or slightly above that were the atmosphere doesn't block the sun's radiation.
And you yourself stated that batman scaling to superman was inconsistent and very likely not accurate and showed how much it was disproved. With the statement of batman taking on superman most obviously meaning and referring to the usual situation of batman having a bat armor with kryptonite to fight superman + some big grandiose plan he had cooking up for years.
And judging by the fact you're tsking the kill the justice leage game as canon and claim Batman's suit and him to be bullet proof just for him to go an get killed by a bullet to the helmet kinda contradicts your argument if you wanna stick with that game's Inconsistent bullshit retcon lore and feats.“
Hard edit bro keep up the good work
Tbh, I didn't even know slade was a superhuman up until recently 😭